October 19, 2024 • 8 mins
There's elation from Team New Zealand, after the Kiwis walked away with the America's Cup in Barcelona.
They beat out Britannia with a 7-2 series win, clinching a victory and hanging onto the Auld Mug.
Former Team NZ skipper Dean Barker joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The three peat is complete and emrits Team New Zealand
win the Louis Witton thirty seventh America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
In the message, congratulations to all the team at orts.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Team New Zealand very very well sailed.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They were so impressive were they a few times they
were challenged total they just came back stronger. Yeah, those
are the sounds of elation on board Team New Zealand
after retaining the America America's Cup in Barcelona, a commanding
winning race nine over Britannia and a seven to victory overall.
The Kiwi Center took charge of the race after the
third gate and from there did not really look back.
(00:58):
They won by thirty seven seconds this morning, and with
it they retained the old mug Let's bring in highly
experienced New Zealand sailor particular and multiple America's Cups. Dean Barker, Dean,
did it feel as though Team New Zealand had the
faster boat right from the start of the Cup match.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I think it became clear. Yeah, I think just watching
the first couple of races unfold that Team Zeland definitely
had an edge and yeah, you said have always Yeah,
you want to be measured and drawing conclusions and things
about performance, but yeah, it just seemed like they were
(01:38):
just a little bit stronger all around. And it was
surprising because you know, I think a lot had been
made about the way any of us have been improving
all the way through the Challenges series. You know, they
were incredibly they did an incredible job. How much they improved,
and they were racing the boat really well at the
combination of Ben and Dylan Fletcher and things was really
(01:58):
the way they were developing was really cool. But I
was I was super impressed with the way Team Zealand
came out of the blocks and at the beginning of
the v and suddenly, you know, just as you listen
to more and more of the comms and things coming
off the boat, just the way that Alex and Claire
and Nathan. I think Nathan waught a lot of discipline
to the boat. Yeah, I'd say it was it was
(02:20):
a more dominant performance than it was an Auckland, you know,
which was surprising. You know, I think for a.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Lot of people, how would they have ensured Team New
Zealand that they came into the Cup match race ready
having not you know, they raced in the early part
of the Louverton of course, but any Os Bretanna had
been racing the whole time. How would Team New Zealand
have ensured they were match race ready.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, I think a lot of it just comes to
out of the confidence. Yeah, the team. You know, the
team is Yellen Group designed Sure Sailing team. You know,
it's it's it's very impressive what they've accomplished over since
Auckland with all these different projects and things going on,
and then you are still put the fastest seventy five
(03:03):
on the water and then and then race it. Well,
I think how your race radios comes down to the preparation.
You know, they knew they are going to be up
against a strong challenger when when they sort of emerged
from the Bluebaton Challenger series, and I think it was
a surprise probably for a lot of people that in
the early format and you made it through a head
(03:25):
of Lunarossa. But at the same time, you know, they
thoroughly deserved that. They made huge games all the way
through and I think they were the sure the deserved challenger,
but you know, just completely outclassed by a much stronger
team in the ends.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
How delicate is the balanceding between taking risks and low
margins for.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Error the style of sailing, and I think and it's
really you know, it goes back to San Francisco days
and some of the learnings from there, and they need
to sort of move forward. It's that there is no
room to be sort of conservative and this type of sailing.
You've really got to throw the you know, throw the
ball right out there and try and and you know
it's try and catch up, you know, with what you create.
(04:10):
And and I think it's certainly been from the outside,
looks like you know, the word Team New Zealand has
been operating. They just they trust the technology. They've they've
had a settled design group for a number of number
of years now really since they're Bermuda days, and they
know it's just it's, you know, it's very very impressive
what they've achieved. So you know, it's it's going to
(04:34):
be you know, it's going to take a very strong
challenger to be able to come back and unsettled and
whatever the next event looks like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Just to give us an idea of of what is
most important here. Hypothetically speaking, if the cruise, the entire
operation of both boats swapped boats, would Team New Zealand
still win In Briten Year's boat.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I would say no, you know, typically the faster boat ones,
but yes, it has to be operated by good sailors,
and I think the quality of the sailor us the
top teams, it's very very hard to differentiate, you know.
I think if you've been completely honest, i'd say, and
I was probably one more of the starts, you know,
suddainly they won the start again overnight, but they just
(05:22):
don't quite have the legs to make the first intersection work,
and then suddenly they're on the back flot and I
think to even boats or if something else had a
slight speeded montage, they would have probably gone and won
that race quite easily. So it's sort of, you know,
like it's one of those questions it's impossible to answer,
but I think, you know, for sure, the New Zealand
(05:43):
sailing team is very very strong and they as a group,
you know, particularly the colmsy here between the four guys
managing the boaters, it was just sounded very very slack
and polished. So you know, that's a huge, huge credit
to the way they are operating. But at the same time,
I don't think you can take anything away from the
way that any use guys were sailing, But they just
(06:04):
weren't given me the same opportunities and they're always a
little bit on the backside just because they weren't quite
as competitive.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Speed was when you're listening to those comms coming off
the boat is sometimes less more or or is it is?
It is there the need to be constantly chatting to
one another and giving information.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know, from from my own experience, you know, when
you're sailing well is when it feels like you've got
time to make all your decisions. And you know, quite
often you hear it's the communication that's going on on board,
you know, like the snippets of you here on the
on the broadcast, it just sounds like they're they're very
well measured decisions, you know, when they're choosing which gate
to go around, or whether to tack at a certain time,
(06:43):
or whether they want to cover or you know, and
it's just it's just really you would expect to hear
a team at the top of your game performing and
it was really you know, it was really cool just
to understand you know, how they how they operate on
board the Odumn and you know, maybe you know because
a few of the other teams, you know, some some
ideas whether the sort of the baseline will be for the.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Next e and just on that, we know that there
will be a thirty eighth America's Cup. We don't have
any more details apart from that, Dan, do you think
there's any chance they'll defend it back home?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, if you listen to what they said last when
they were trying to defend the idea of going to Barcelona,
that the reason for going there was that they could
wanted and bring it back. So yeah, so it'd be
pretty cool to have an America's Cup back and back
in New Zealand again. And I was fortunate to be
part of the telling a red bull racing teams instead
(07:37):
of a coaching capacity, and so the time in Barcelona
was great, but it certainly isn't isn't anywhere near what
an event is like in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right, Well that gives us a little bit of hope. Anyway,
Thanks for your insight, Dan, great to tet to you
We'll keep our fingers crossed that we might see in
a bit closer to home next time.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Where wouldn't it be great? All right, take care, thank you,
you have.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
A good dayan things in date. Dean Barker there with.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
His thoughts for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.
Listen live to news Talk z'd be weekends from midday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
The three peat is complete and emrits Team New Zealand
win the Louis Witton thirty seventh America's Cup.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
In the message, congratulations to all the team at orts.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Team New Zealand very very well sailed.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
They were so impressive were they a few times they
were challenged total they just came back stronger. Yeah, those
are the sounds of elation on board Team New Zealand
after retaining the America America's Cup in Barcelona, a commanding
winning race nine over Britannia and a seven to victory overall.
The Kiwi Center took charge of the race after the
third gate and from there did not really look back.
(00:58):
They won by thirty seven seconds this morning, and with
it they retained the old mug Let's bring in highly
experienced New Zealand sailor particular and multiple America's Cups. Dean Barker, Dean,
did it feel as though Team New Zealand had the
faster boat right from the start of the Cup match.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
I think it became clear. Yeah, I think just watching
the first couple of races unfold that Team Zeland definitely
had an edge and yeah, you said have always Yeah,
you want to be measured and drawing conclusions and things
about performance, but yeah, it just seemed like they were
(01:38):
just a little bit stronger all around. And it was
surprising because you know, I think a lot had been
made about the way any of us have been improving
all the way through the Challenges series. You know, they
were incredibly they did an incredible job. How much they improved,
and they were racing the boat really well at the
combination of Ben and Dylan Fletcher and things was really
(01:58):
the way they were developing was really cool. But I
was I was super impressed with the way Team Zealand
came out of the blocks and at the beginning of
the v and suddenly, you know, just as you listen
to more and more of the comms and things coming
off the boat, just the way that Alex and Claire
and Nathan. I think Nathan waught a lot of discipline
to the boat. Yeah, I'd say it was it was
(02:20):
a more dominant performance than it was an Auckland, you know,
which was surprising. You know, I think for a.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Lot of people, how would they have ensured Team New
Zealand that they came into the Cup match race ready
having not you know, they raced in the early part
of the Louverton of course, but any Os Bretanna had
been racing the whole time. How would Team New Zealand
have ensured they were match race ready.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
Well, I think a lot of it just comes to
out of the confidence. Yeah, the team. You know, the
team is Yellen Group designed Sure Sailing team. You know,
it's it's it's very impressive what they've accomplished over since
Auckland with all these different projects and things going on,
and then you are still put the fastest seventy five
(03:03):
on the water and then and then race it. Well,
I think how your race radios comes down to the preparation.
You know, they knew they are going to be up
against a strong challenger when when they sort of emerged
from the Bluebaton Challenger series, and I think it was
a surprise probably for a lot of people that in
the early format and you made it through a head
(03:25):
of Lunarossa. But at the same time, you know, they
thoroughly deserved that. They made huge games all the way
through and I think they were the sure the deserved challenger,
but you know, just completely outclassed by a much stronger
team in the ends.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
How delicate is the balanceding between taking risks and low
margins for.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Error the style of sailing, and I think and it's
really you know, it goes back to San Francisco days
and some of the learnings from there, and they need
to sort of move forward. It's that there is no
room to be sort of conservative and this type of sailing.
You've really got to throw the you know, throw the
ball right out there and try and and you know
it's try and catch up, you know, with what you create.
(04:10):
And and I think it's certainly been from the outside,
looks like you know, the word Team New Zealand has
been operating. They just they trust the technology. They've they've
had a settled design group for a number of number
of years now really since they're Bermuda days, and they
know it's just it's, you know, it's very very impressive
what they've achieved. So you know, it's it's going to
(04:34):
be you know, it's going to take a very strong
challenger to be able to come back and unsettled and
whatever the next event looks like.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Just to give us an idea of of what is
most important here. Hypothetically speaking, if the cruise, the entire
operation of both boats swapped boats, would Team New Zealand
still win In Briten Year's boat.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I would say no, you know, typically the faster boat ones,
but yes, it has to be operated by good sailors,
and I think the quality of the sailor us the
top teams, it's very very hard to differentiate, you know.
I think if you've been completely honest, i'd say, and
I was probably one more of the starts, you know,
suddainly they won the start again overnight, but they just
(05:22):
don't quite have the legs to make the first intersection work,
and then suddenly they're on the back flot and I
think to even boats or if something else had a
slight speeded montage, they would have probably gone and won
that race quite easily. So it's sort of, you know,
like it's one of those questions it's impossible to answer,
but I think, you know, for sure, the New Zealand
(05:43):
sailing team is very very strong and they as a group,
you know, particularly the colmsy here between the four guys
managing the boaters, it was just sounded very very slack
and polished. So you know, that's a huge, huge credit
to the way they are operating. But at the same time,
I don't think you can take anything away from the
way that any use guys were sailing, But they just
(06:04):
weren't given me the same opportunities and they're always a
little bit on the backside just because they weren't quite
as competitive.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Speed was when you're listening to those comms coming off
the boat is sometimes less more or or is it is?
It is there the need to be constantly chatting to
one another and giving information.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
You know, from from my own experience, you know, when
you're sailing well is when it feels like you've got
time to make all your decisions. And you know, quite
often you hear it's the communication that's going on on board,
you know, like the snippets of you here on the
on the broadcast, it just sounds like they're they're very
well measured decisions, you know, when they're choosing which gate
to go around, or whether to tack at a certain time,
(06:43):
or whether they want to cover or you know, and
it's just it's just really you would expect to hear
a team at the top of your game performing and
it was really you know, it was really cool just
to understand you know, how they how they operate on
board the Odumn and you know, maybe you know because
a few of the other teams, you know, some some
ideas whether the sort of the baseline will be for the.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
Next e and just on that, we know that there
will be a thirty eighth America's Cup. We don't have
any more details apart from that, Dan, do you think
there's any chance they'll defend it back home?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Well, if you listen to what they said last when
they were trying to defend the idea of going to Barcelona,
that the reason for going there was that they could
wanted and bring it back. So yeah, so it'd be
pretty cool to have an America's Cup back and back
in New Zealand again. And I was fortunate to be
part of the telling a red bull racing teams instead
(07:37):
of a coaching capacity, and so the time in Barcelona
was great, but it certainly isn't isn't anywhere near what
an event is like in Auckland.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
All right, Well that gives us a little bit of hope. Anyway,
Thanks for your insight, Dan, great to tet to you
We'll keep our fingers crossed that we might see in
a bit closer to home next time.
Speaker 4 (07:55):
Where wouldn't it be great? All right, take care, thank you,
you have.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
A good dayan things in date. Dean Barker there with.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
His thoughts for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine.
Listen live to news Talk z'd be weekends from midday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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