October 19, 2024 • 11 mins
The White Ferns are feeling hopeful ahead of their T20 World Cup final.
New Zealand pipped the West Indies by eight runs to win their semi-final in Sharjah, after coming into the tournament on a 10-match losing streak.
White Fern Melie Kerr joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks EDB penty.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Cricket World Cup Final since twenty ten not.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Enough and New Zealand Legends, Susie Biggs, Sophie Divine here
to who who have turned the tables on the Western
Leies And finally they have exercised the gorse of twenty
sixteen and they are into the final well BICC Women's
(00:36):
T twenty World Cup twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Four three o'clock tomorrow morning. They'll face South Africa in
the final. White Ferns all Round. Amilely Kerr has had
a superb tournament, particularly with the ball, and she joins
us now on Weekend Sport. Mellie, thanks for taking our call.
New Zealand will play in the T twenty World Cup final.
Is that a sentence that you thought you'd be hearing
a fortnight or so ago.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's a great sentence used to be able to hear
now that we're here. You know, obviously it had been
a tough year for us, but I think world Cups
anything can happen. There's obviously more pressure one off games
and you know this World Cup you've probably seen a
lot of results that haven't been expected and it's one
(01:23):
great for the women's game, I think. But we've always
had the belief that we can get to this position
and have the chance to win a World Cup with
the players we have, and yeah, to be here now
after a tough yet pretty special.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What do you think you've done particularly well as a
team at this World Cup.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think one, we've taken a lot of learnings and
growth throughout the last year. We've trained really hard and
we've stayed positive despite what media has said and what
may have happened. But also I think during this World Cup,
I think our bowling units really clap. And I guess
(02:09):
the other thing is you've seen the likes of Eden Carson,
Georgia plimer Is. He gave three really young players in
our groups step up on the world stage and they've
been outstanding. And I think this World Cup there's been
so many different contributors throughout and that's how it leads
to the results we've had and it's been awesome to see.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I want to talk a bit more about a couple
of those players in a seck, but can I ask
you about the semi final against the West Indies one
twenty eight for nine in your twenty overs in the innings,
break Mealy, did that feel like enough?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean you always want more runs to defend, but
actually I did think that will be enough and we
give ourselves a chance. I think at Charja the outfield
was really slow, so I think that one twenty eight
is actually almost like a one forty on that wicket,
and we knew if we bowled well and how we've
(03:05):
been bowling as group, that we were in the game.
And also, you know, you see that finals cricket, it's
those funny things of people when there's pressure involved. You know,
you can either go within yourself or you can express yourself.
Then I thought we were outstanding to start. Obviously Dotton
gave us a bit of a skier there, and the
(03:26):
way she can strike the ball, it doesn't matter about
a slow outfield when you can hit it into the stands.
But yeah, it was it was. I thought that one
twenty eight gave us a real shot to be able
to win the game. And yeah, we got across the line,
and you always want more, but yeah, at the halfway point,
definitely believed.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, well it turned out to be enough. That's for sure.
Can I take you back to the opening game against India,
a really comprehensive fifty eight run when you bowl them
out for one hundred and two in nineteen overs. How
much confidence did that win in your opening game give you.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, that was a huge win when knew how important
that game was and having India and Australia first up,
you know kind of they were huge. So to put
India away like that was outstanding. I mean, Sophie was
with the bat set that total up and to bowl
a team out like that was some of world class
(04:24):
batters for one hundred was outstanding. But I think that's
been throughout the whole world cut This bowling unit has
been Yeah, this bowling unit has been so impressive. Everyone
steps up in their different roles at different times and
even not gone for many runs or keep picking up
key wickets, and it's been so good to see. And yeah,
(04:47):
come to the game tomorrow. You want to express yourself
again and play like there's nothing to lose, even though
there's a whole lot of pressure and it's a big,
big day. But that's what all the hard works for
and what you kind of dream of as a young kid.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We mentioned Eden Carson before three for twenty nine in
the semi final, three crucial ws and just you know,
a further development for her. What have you seen merely
from Eden Carson and her development as a bowler.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think she just keeps getting better and better. We've
got great a great spin coach with us at the moment,
Paul Wiseman, and at camps, you know, they bowl a lot,
and I think she's been working on trying to turn
the ball more and getting a lot of overspin as
well as her her armble and you know, being an
(05:38):
off spinner bowling big overs in the power play and
the way she has is outstanding. And it's just about
backing herself and the plans we have and she's taken
it on. She's been She's been so important for us.
And it's so often to see the young players step part.
I think of you know Fran as well. It's just
(05:58):
they're pretty cool, calm and collected for the as they
are and the experience I've had, and they're going to
have long careers for new Zellen and it's excited.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And what about Georgia Plummer, your Blaze teammate, Can you
give us a bit of you know, a bit of
insight into what you've seen from her and her growth
as a as a T twenty opener, because it's been well,
it hasn't been a straight line, has it. It's been
a bit of a rocky road for Georgia Plummer.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, I think one Georgie's resilience has been outstanding, and
you know, I get to see her a lot behind
the scenes, having getting to play with her at Wellington,
so I've always known her ability and how good she is.
She's also one of the hardest workers, and you know,
sometimes it takes an innings to help build that confidence
(06:47):
and I think that's fifty against Australia really really helped her.
But it's always been there. She's always played with positive
intent and I think T twenty cricket's pretty fickle, so
you know you're going to fail a little bit, especially
when you're being aggressive, and for her, she's stuck to
her game plan and the success and the awards happening
for her at the moment and that's so pleasing to see,
(07:10):
knowing how hard she's worked and the criticism she's faced.
But yeah, she's been so important for us up top
and the power play and she's setting the toe, So yeah,
it's awesome to see. And you know she's only twenty still,
so that's another player in our group that's got a
long career ahead of her.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now, I know from experience you don't like talking about
yourself very much, but I'm going to ask you about
your bowling. Superb. The numbers themselves are terrific in terms
of the wickets you've taken, your run spur over what's
going well for you at the bowl increase.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I guess over here the conditions probably suit spin a
lot more than I guess around the world and back home.
I am just really clearing my plans. I've got my
variation with my wrong and that's been coming out really well.
And I think also games been set up well in
terms of partnership bowl and I want to steep up
(08:08):
in the big moments and at the moment we don't
have the ball in hand. I've got a lot of
confidence in the work I've done and also just the
spin group we have. I absolutely love bowling. I think
in my career this is the most enjoyment I've had
with my bowling, and that comes down to the coaches
and also the spin group we have because they make
it so fun.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm trying to remember the last time you played South Africa.
It seems like an awfully long time ago in T twenty. Anyway,
I'm trying to find a frame of reference here. How
do you reckon your match up against South Africa in
T twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, we know South Africa quality cyber world class players,
and we did have a series against them a year
ago where we played There's a few rainouts, but we
played a couple of tea twenties and we actually played
quite well against them. Obviously, that's a year ago and
we're here now in completely different conditions, so we know
(09:04):
what they are capable of. There's so much footage now
that you know they'll be scouting us. We'll be doing
the same. And at the end of the day, I
think in those big pressure moments, it's almost about who
takes the first punch, Who's who's going to be the
most fearless, and that's what it's going to come down to,
and backing our skills and when it gets tough, trying
to stay level and stick together, which we've done so
(09:26):
well throughout this whole tournament.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It must be quite cool, is it because you know,
if you're in the final, you get to stay at
the stay at the hotel right till the end. You know,
everybody else is just about god home, but you guys,
you guys are still there. It must be quite a
it must be quite a cool feeling and air a
fairly excited camp of players as you look forward to
the final.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Is it definitely? I mean, we have all experienced the
feeling of being knocked out and having to tack our
bags and get out the next day. So it's a
much better position to be in today where you know,
we've got one more game, it's the last game, and
we have a chance to do something pretty special, and yeah,
(10:08):
who would have thought? And it's it's awesome for I
think our country, for New Zealand, we've showing this fight
and this determination that I think so many Kiwis show
and the resilience which I think represents our nation in
our country so well. So bring on Sunday. It's exciting
(10:28):
and we know that the country is behind us also,
but we also want to Dylan crowd well.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know there'll be a lot of alarms set for
three o'clock in the morning Monday morning, merely to get
up and see if you can take that one final step.
Thanks so much for chatting to us as always, congratulations
on when you are the team of a Chief. So far,
Let's hope there's one more, one more terrific performance and
you look forward to seeing how you go in the final.
Thanks Jas, Thanks Melee Kerr. There Amelia kur No One
(10:54):
most commonly is Mealy though and a big part of
this New Zealand side for quite some time. Three o'clock
tomorrow morning, New Zealand against South Africa and the T
twenty Cricket World Cup Final.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks EDB penty.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Cricket World Cup Final since twenty ten not.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Enough and New Zealand Legends, Susie Biggs, Sophie Divine here
to who who have turned the tables on the Western
Leies And finally they have exercised the gorse of twenty
sixteen and they are into the final well BICC Women's
(00:36):
T twenty World Cup twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Four three o'clock tomorrow morning. They'll face South Africa in
the final. White Ferns all Round. Amilely Kerr has had
a superb tournament, particularly with the ball, and she joins
us now on Weekend Sport. Mellie, thanks for taking our call.
New Zealand will play in the T twenty World Cup final.
Is that a sentence that you thought you'd be hearing
a fortnight or so ago.
Speaker 4 (01:02):
It's a great sentence used to be able to hear
now that we're here. You know, obviously it had been
a tough year for us, but I think world Cups
anything can happen. There's obviously more pressure one off games
and you know this World Cup you've probably seen a
lot of results that haven't been expected and it's one
(01:23):
great for the women's game, I think. But we've always
had the belief that we can get to this position
and have the chance to win a World Cup with
the players we have, and yeah, to be here now
after a tough yet pretty special.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What do you think you've done particularly well as a
team at this World Cup.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
I think one, we've taken a lot of learnings and
growth throughout the last year. We've trained really hard and
we've stayed positive despite what media has said and what
may have happened. But also I think during this World Cup,
I think our bowling units really clap. And I guess
(02:09):
the other thing is you've seen the likes of Eden Carson,
Georgia plimer Is. He gave three really young players in
our groups step up on the world stage and they've
been outstanding. And I think this World Cup there's been
so many different contributors throughout and that's how it leads
to the results we've had and it's been awesome to see.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I want to talk a bit more about a couple
of those players in a seck, but can I ask
you about the semi final against the West Indies one
twenty eight for nine in your twenty overs in the innings,
break Mealy, did that feel like enough?
Speaker 4 (02:44):
I mean you always want more runs to defend, but
actually I did think that will be enough and we
give ourselves a chance. I think at Charja the outfield
was really slow, so I think that one twenty eight
is actually almost like a one forty on that wicket,
and we knew if we bowled well and how we've
(03:05):
been bowling as group, that we were in the game.
And also, you know, you see that finals cricket, it's
those funny things of people when there's pressure involved. You know,
you can either go within yourself or you can express yourself.
Then I thought we were outstanding to start. Obviously Dotton
gave us a bit of a skier there, and the
(03:26):
way she can strike the ball, it doesn't matter about
a slow outfield when you can hit it into the stands.
But yeah, it was it was. I thought that one
twenty eight gave us a real shot to be able
to win the game. And yeah, we got across the line,
and you always want more, but yeah, at the halfway point,
definitely believed.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
Yeah, well it turned out to be enough. That's for sure.
Can I take you back to the opening game against India,
a really comprehensive fifty eight run when you bowl them
out for one hundred and two in nineteen overs. How
much confidence did that win in your opening game give you.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Yeah, that was a huge win when knew how important
that game was and having India and Australia first up,
you know kind of they were huge. So to put
India away like that was outstanding. I mean, Sophie was
with the bat set that total up and to bowl
a team out like that was some of world class
(04:24):
batters for one hundred was outstanding. But I think that's
been throughout the whole world cut This bowling unit has
been Yeah, this bowling unit has been so impressive. Everyone
steps up in their different roles at different times and
even not gone for many runs or keep picking up
key wickets, and it's been so good to see. And yeah,
(04:47):
come to the game tomorrow. You want to express yourself
again and play like there's nothing to lose, even though
there's a whole lot of pressure and it's a big,
big day. But that's what all the hard works for
and what you kind of dream of as a young kid.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
We mentioned Eden Carson before three for twenty nine in
the semi final, three crucial ws and just you know,
a further development for her. What have you seen merely
from Eden Carson and her development as a bowler.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
I think she just keeps getting better and better. We've
got great a great spin coach with us at the moment,
Paul Wiseman, and at camps, you know, they bowl a lot,
and I think she's been working on trying to turn
the ball more and getting a lot of overspin as
well as her her armble and you know, being an
(05:38):
off spinner bowling big overs in the power play and
the way she has is outstanding. And it's just about
backing herself and the plans we have and she's taken
it on. She's been She's been so important for us.
And it's so often to see the young players step part.
I think of you know Fran as well. It's just
(05:58):
they're pretty cool, calm and collected for the as they
are and the experience I've had, and they're going to
have long careers for new Zellen and it's excited.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And what about Georgia Plummer, your Blaze teammate, Can you
give us a bit of you know, a bit of
insight into what you've seen from her and her growth
as a as a T twenty opener, because it's been well,
it hasn't been a straight line, has it. It's been
a bit of a rocky road for Georgia Plummer.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah, I think one Georgie's resilience has been outstanding, and
you know, I get to see her a lot behind
the scenes, having getting to play with her at Wellington,
so I've always known her ability and how good she is.
She's also one of the hardest workers, and you know,
sometimes it takes an innings to help build that confidence
(06:47):
and I think that's fifty against Australia really really helped her.
But it's always been there. She's always played with positive
intent and I think T twenty cricket's pretty fickle, so
you know you're going to fail a little bit, especially
when you're being aggressive, and for her, she's stuck to
her game plan and the success and the awards happening
for her at the moment and that's so pleasing to see,
(07:10):
knowing how hard she's worked and the criticism she's faced.
But yeah, she's been so important for us up top
and the power play and she's setting the toe, So yeah,
it's awesome to see. And you know she's only twenty still,
so that's another player in our group that's got a
long career ahead of her.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Now, I know from experience you don't like talking about
yourself very much, but I'm going to ask you about
your bowling. Superb. The numbers themselves are terrific in terms
of the wickets you've taken, your run spur over what's
going well for you at the bowl increase.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I guess over here the conditions probably suit spin a
lot more than I guess around the world and back home.
I am just really clearing my plans. I've got my
variation with my wrong and that's been coming out really well.
And I think also games been set up well in
terms of partnership bowl and I want to steep up
(08:08):
in the big moments and at the moment we don't
have the ball in hand. I've got a lot of
confidence in the work I've done and also just the
spin group we have. I absolutely love bowling. I think
in my career this is the most enjoyment I've had
with my bowling, and that comes down to the coaches
and also the spin group we have because they make
it so fun.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
I'm trying to remember the last time you played South Africa.
It seems like an awfully long time ago in T twenty. Anyway,
I'm trying to find a frame of reference here. How
do you reckon your match up against South Africa in
T twenty.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Yeah, we know South Africa quality cyber world class players,
and we did have a series against them a year
ago where we played There's a few rainouts, but we
played a couple of tea twenties and we actually played
quite well against them. Obviously, that's a year ago and
we're here now in completely different conditions, so we know
(09:04):
what they are capable of. There's so much footage now
that you know they'll be scouting us. We'll be doing
the same. And at the end of the day, I
think in those big pressure moments, it's almost about who
takes the first punch, Who's who's going to be the
most fearless, and that's what it's going to come down to,
and backing our skills and when it gets tough, trying
to stay level and stick together, which we've done so
(09:26):
well throughout this whole tournament.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
It must be quite cool, is it because you know,
if you're in the final, you get to stay at
the stay at the hotel right till the end. You know,
everybody else is just about god home, but you guys,
you guys are still there. It must be quite a
it must be quite a cool feeling and air a
fairly excited camp of players as you look forward to
the final.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Is it definitely? I mean, we have all experienced the
feeling of being knocked out and having to tack our
bags and get out the next day. So it's a
much better position to be in today where you know,
we've got one more game, it's the last game, and
we have a chance to do something pretty special, and yeah,
(10:08):
who would have thought? And it's it's awesome for I
think our country, for New Zealand, we've showing this fight
and this determination that I think so many Kiwis show
and the resilience which I think represents our nation in
our country so well. So bring on Sunday. It's exciting
(10:28):
and we know that the country is behind us also,
but we also want to Dylan crowd well.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I know there'll be a lot of alarms set for
three o'clock in the morning Monday morning, merely to get
up and see if you can take that one final step.
Thanks so much for chatting to us as always, congratulations
on when you are the team of a Chief. So far,
Let's hope there's one more, one more terrific performance and
you look forward to seeing how you go in the final.
Thanks Jas, Thanks Melee Kerr. There Amelia kur No One
(10:54):
most commonly is Mealy though and a big part of
this New Zealand side for quite some time. Three o'clock
tomorrow morning, New Zealand against South Africa and the T
twenty Cricket World Cup Final.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
For more from Weekends Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talks at B Weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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