James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the e All Blacks v Ireland match, the Wallabies v England match, Man City's latest slump and the Black Caps' latest test series performance.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey, a regular part of our Sundays. So much
to talk about, James, can we start with all Blacks Ireland.
You've given it the overnight test, as we all have.
What stands out most about yesterday's one in Dublin for you?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, look, I don't usually do this, pony, but I
think I'm ready to talk about tight forwards. I think
I am ready fair enough, fair enough, let's do this,
Let's do this. I think all Moore was huge. It
was a big step up for him because he came
in replacing Cody Taylor. Questions about his throwing, but he
(00:48):
was massive and that assists the pickup offers bootlacers, so
tis he actually had to scoop one up before him
as well. But Will Jordan's try our only try, I
think was just crucial clutch play from him, and I
can't say enough about him. You must have been stoked
as a canesman. Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I loved it, loved watching a suffer one more and
I thought, you know, you talk about core roles. One
of these trendy phrases throwing into the line out. There
was just that one at the start that was not straight.
Ireland didn't contest. There was some confusion around whether that's
actually a rule at the moment or not in the
Autumn Internationals. But otherwise I think around the field great,
he made his tackles and his line out throwing was good.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah. And then beside him, I think our front rowers
the props have been outstanding. The reserves coming on Torssi
and Talum the fussy the best in the world really
in terms of steadying the scrum. They're almost unplayable. You
could tell the Irish we're not keen on scrum. The
guy with the corners was dreading it when he had
to come back on and it's been subbed off and
(01:53):
he just said, no, please don't make me base another Behemo.
And so I think the other thing is Patrick Tupulto.
I just want to give a special shout out to
him because I think he's been world class for a
long time and a beast for a long time. But
we just haven't seen them play in big All Blacks tests,
and that's mainly because of Brittallic and white Lock and
(02:14):
Scott Barrett. They formed a sort of blockade where you've
got your three world class locks, but two plots every
bit world class. And so it's actually we're lucky that
he's still around and playing at that level, because I
don't I think only South Africa can emulate that by
bringing it on. R G. Stamen rights as a world
class Locke substitute.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Absolutely, Scott Barrett too, Paulvai, who's really come on? And
Patrick Tweek Polotto. It's a good little a good little trio,
a good big trio of big second rowers to choose from. Hey,
now I've done the sums. Twenty three thirteen. That's thirty
six points in that game. This morning at TWIG both
England and Australia scored that many by themselves forty two
(02:59):
thirty seven no defense.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I know it's crazy really, but I mean, look, the
thing is what they did is by picking Joe Schmidt,
by picking Joseph Suele was just straight away gave him
X factors, something they've been missing. And it shows the
difference of having an X factor player on your team.
But the All Blacks have the opposite problem. This is
(03:22):
an abundance. You know, we leave someone like you Hoskinsituto
at home and then we bring you know, unearthed Satisis.
There's no no drama in the end because we were
really replacing it with expector. But I think the Wallabies
desperately needed that. Jorgensen then his last minute to try
he's got a bit of that too, so it helps.
And I think if you go back to the Island Test,
(03:43):
that's what they missed. They don't really have that much
X factor probably And when I say expected, I'm talking
about athleticism that can just change the game. They probably
haven't had that since Pino DRIs school. But one thing
I did want to touch on Piney was how good
can Royguard was off the bench. I thought he was exceptional,
but in the in the first half, Nick Berry did
(04:06):
poor quartiers at art in no favors. It was an
absolute shambles. And you know, when he didn't give an
Irish player yellow card, I thought, this is the last
straw of Berrys. And then now the Irish fans are
saying you're like another all black Berry, and then by
the end of the game some of them wanted to
poison Berry. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a goose berry is anyway, let's move on to
that's a little bit unkind but I just wanted to
join in really more than any.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's a good one brainstorming with me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh love it, love it. Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, Chris Wood has been named the Premier League's Player
of the Month for October a Kiwi winning the Premier
League's PFA Player of the Month, which is voted for,
as I understand it by his fellow professionals. What an
akala for Chris Wood?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I know, four goals in three games, just the difference
make owning the stage. And I think I said to
you before that without Harry Kane there, they have to
talk about someone and it's now Chris Wood when it
comes to strikers because you've got Arling Harlan and the
next name on everybody's lips is Chris Wood, which is
wonderful to see. I don't think you know there's never
(05:24):
been a New Zealand player that's one Premier League Player
of the Month or Nottingham Forest player. You go back
and it's all the big clubs with a couple of outliers.
But what I think it does because what's happened here
is Forest are third on the table. So you're Liverpool
are first, and then man City who lost overnight a
second Man it's Forrest and Brighton, and I'm thinking, could
(05:48):
Forrest or Brighton do what listed it in twenty sixteen
and be you know, absolute anomally winning the Premier League?
And well maybe they could, but unfortunately I think Brighton
are better equipped to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah I feel like that too, and I don't know
whether either of them will. I would love to see it,
and even the Liverpool fan and me would love to
see it because Lester is one of the all time
great Premier League stories. But yeah, I just wonder, well,
who knows. We're only ten or eleven games and aren't
we so not even a better third of the way
through the season, so who knows? But I think what
it's done for Forrest though, is getting these points early
(06:25):
in the season means that you can you can afford
to go through a bit of a slump mid season
or early in the new year, and you're still going
to be okay. You're not going to find yourself in
a relegation battle because you've already you've already banked a
whole bunch of points at the start.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Of the season, exactly. And one thing like people out
there is I'm vaguely aware of Chris Wood. What why
is he so good? What's he like? Well, the thing
about Chris Wood is he doesn't get many chances and
he buries them. So this is the thing if you
are if you compare him to say Gabrielle Jesus, He's
played a similar amount of games to Chris Wood, and
(06:57):
they've both got a similar amount of Premier League goals.
Chris Wood is actually a head on seventy seven. He's Jesus'
seventy three, but bluddy Jesus player has played at the
Man City at Arsenal, meaning how many chances he gets
every single game. I mean out there, Chris Wood is
out there starving for chances and makes it count and
he's just clinical. And yeah he's a six yard box,
(07:18):
big heading center forward, but he can score them from anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yep. They all count for one, hey, quickly on the
black Caps. We're in a T twenty series over in
Sri Lanka at the moment on New Zealand one thirty
five all out in the twentieth over in the first one,
Shri Lanka got there with an over despair, Zach Folks.
Though he scored twenty seven off sixteen balls batting it
a twenty seven not out. That is a bet of
sixteen balls banning at number nine and then comes out
(07:45):
and gets three for twenty. Who is Zach Folks?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Exactly? Good question? Who is Zach Folks? Well, he's from Canterbury.
I think he went to Sir Andrews. He's a tall
batting all rounder but obviously bowls pretty well as a
medium pacer.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This is the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The pr machine does not work well enough for cricket
that we're going Who is Zach Folks? He made his
dable in April Pony and you think about any orbit
that even gets called into the squad. We know who
they are and what they had for breakfast with Replex responsors.
But this is the thing, Zach Folks. We've got to
get used to some of these names because I know
T twenty isn't that important, but we should be knowing,
(08:25):
you know, newcomers to our major national teams. I think.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Absolutely. And just to finish, speaking of cricket, the test
which is the Suzy Cricket documentary has been released or
the promo has anyway, they don't mind throwing the odd
little tenty, do they?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Australians honestly watch this promos. It's hilarious. It's all
the bad is Steve Smith, David Warner. I think it's
Travis head All losing the plot. Warner versus the water
bottle is particularly funny. But they are losing the plot. Meanwhile,
the bowlers are just sort of chilling out, going on.
There they go again. And it reminded me that I've
(09:03):
been a journal for a while, Pony, and I've interviewed
so many Australian cricketers over the years. A lot of
bowlers never had a problem with him, always enjoyed them.
Craig McDermitt moves tough, Shane Warren, Grett Lee great guy,
Jason Gillispie even better. Richard Johnson, you know, always had
time for you. But batners all nuts, all of them.
(09:25):
And I mean so am I so I can spot one.
But I'm telling you the Australian batners as a breed
out out there, they're out the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, it's proven yet again in this promo which I've
also seen, James and I can totally concur with what
you say. Good on your mate. Always good to chat,
Thanks for thanks for taking our callers. Always on a
Sunday afternoon James McCarney. Follow him on socials, He's on
Craigo's While Alternative Commentary Collective and lots of other places
as well. And part of our Sundays here at news
talks EDB a run about this.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Time for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen
live to News talks EDB weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on radio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey, a regular part of our Sundays. So much
to talk about, James, can we start with all Blacks Ireland.
You've given it the overnight test, as we all have.
What stands out most about yesterday's one in Dublin for you?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, look, I don't usually do this, pony, but I
think I'm ready to talk about tight forwards. I think
I am ready fair enough, fair enough, let's do this,
Let's do this. I think all Moore was huge. It
was a big step up for him because he came
in replacing Cody Taylor. Questions about his throwing, but he
(00:48):
was massive and that assists the pickup offers bootlacers, so
tis he actually had to scoop one up before him
as well. But Will Jordan's try our only try, I
think was just crucial clutch play from him, and I
can't say enough about him. You must have been stoked
as a canesman. Oh.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
I loved it, loved watching a suffer one more and
I thought, you know, you talk about core roles. One
of these trendy phrases throwing into the line out. There
was just that one at the start that was not straight.
Ireland didn't contest. There was some confusion around whether that's
actually a rule at the moment or not in the
Autumn Internationals. But otherwise I think around the field great,
he made his tackles and his line out throwing was good.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
Yeah. And then beside him, I think our front rowers
the props have been outstanding. The reserves coming on Torssi
and Talum the fussy the best in the world really
in terms of steadying the scrum. They're almost unplayable. You
could tell the Irish we're not keen on scrum. The
guy with the corners was dreading it when he had
to come back on and it's been subbed off and
(01:53):
he just said, no, please don't make me base another Behemo.
And so I think the other thing is Patrick Tupulto.
I just want to give a special shout out to
him because I think he's been world class for a
long time and a beast for a long time. But
we just haven't seen them play in big All Blacks tests,
and that's mainly because of Brittallic and white Lock and
(02:14):
Scott Barrett. They formed a sort of blockade where you've
got your three world class locks, but two plots every
bit world class. And so it's actually we're lucky that
he's still around and playing at that level, because I
don't I think only South Africa can emulate that by
bringing it on. R G. Stamen rights as a world
class Locke substitute.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Absolutely, Scott Barrett too, Paulvai, who's really come on? And
Patrick Tweek Polotto. It's a good little a good little trio,
a good big trio of big second rowers to choose from. Hey,
now I've done the sums. Twenty three thirteen. That's thirty
six points in that game. This morning at TWIG both
England and Australia scored that many by themselves forty two
(02:59):
thirty seven no defense.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I know it's crazy really, but I mean, look, the
thing is what they did is by picking Joe Schmidt,
by picking Joseph Suele was just straight away gave him
X factors, something they've been missing. And it shows the
difference of having an X factor player on your team.
But the All Blacks have the opposite problem. This is
(03:22):
an abundance. You know, we leave someone like you Hoskinsituto
at home and then we bring you know, unearthed Satisis.
There's no no drama in the end because we were
really replacing it with expector. But I think the Wallabies
desperately needed that. Jorgensen then his last minute to try
he's got a bit of that too, so it helps.
And I think if you go back to the Island Test,
(03:43):
that's what they missed. They don't really have that much
X factor probably And when I say expected, I'm talking
about athleticism that can just change the game. They probably
haven't had that since Pino DRIs school. But one thing
I did want to touch on Piney was how good
can Royguard was off the bench. I thought he was exceptional,
but in the in the first half, Nick Berry did
(04:06):
poor quartiers at art in no favors. It was an
absolute shambles. And you know, when he didn't give an
Irish player yellow card, I thought, this is the last
straw of Berrys. And then now the Irish fans are
saying you're like another all black Berry, and then by
the end of the game some of them wanted to
poison Berry. I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
What a goose berry is anyway, let's move on to
that's a little bit unkind but I just wanted to
join in really more than any.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It's a good one brainstorming with me.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Oh love it, love it. Hey.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
Now, Chris Wood has been named the Premier League's Player
of the Month for October a Kiwi winning the Premier
League's PFA Player of the Month, which is voted for,
as I understand it by his fellow professionals. What an
akala for Chris Wood?
Speaker 3 (05:01):
I know, four goals in three games, just the difference
make owning the stage. And I think I said to
you before that without Harry Kane there, they have to
talk about someone and it's now Chris Wood when it
comes to strikers because you've got Arling Harlan and the
next name on everybody's lips is Chris Wood, which is
wonderful to see. I don't think you know there's never
(05:24):
been a New Zealand player that's one Premier League Player
of the Month or Nottingham Forest player. You go back
and it's all the big clubs with a couple of outliers.
But what I think it does because what's happened here
is Forest are third on the table. So you're Liverpool
are first, and then man City who lost overnight a
second Man it's Forrest and Brighton, and I'm thinking, could
(05:48):
Forrest or Brighton do what listed it in twenty sixteen
and be you know, absolute anomally winning the Premier League?
And well maybe they could, but unfortunately I think Brighton
are better equipped to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Yeah I feel like that too, and I don't know
whether either of them will. I would love to see it,
and even the Liverpool fan and me would love to
see it because Lester is one of the all time
great Premier League stories. But yeah, I just wonder, well,
who knows. We're only ten or eleven games and aren't
we so not even a better third of the way
through the season, so who knows? But I think what
it's done for Forrest though, is getting these points early
(06:25):
in the season means that you can you can afford
to go through a bit of a slump mid season
or early in the new year, and you're still going
to be okay. You're not going to find yourself in
a relegation battle because you've already you've already banked a
whole bunch of points at the start.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Of the season, exactly. And one thing like people out
there is I'm vaguely aware of Chris Wood. What why
is he so good? What's he like? Well, the thing
about Chris Wood is he doesn't get many chances and
he buries them. So this is the thing if you
are if you compare him to say Gabrielle Jesus, He's
played a similar amount of games to Chris Wood, and
(06:57):
they've both got a similar amount of Premier League goals.
Chris Wood is actually a head on seventy seven. He's Jesus'
seventy three, but bluddy Jesus player has played at the
Man City at Arsenal, meaning how many chances he gets
every single game. I mean out there, Chris Wood is
out there starving for chances and makes it count and
he's just clinical. And yeah he's a six yard box,
(07:18):
big heading center forward, but he can score them from anywhere.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yep. They all count for one, hey, quickly on the
black Caps. We're in a T twenty series over in
Sri Lanka at the moment on New Zealand one thirty
five all out in the twentieth over in the first one,
Shri Lanka got there with an over despair, Zach Folks.
Though he scored twenty seven off sixteen balls batting it
a twenty seven not out. That is a bet of
sixteen balls banning at number nine and then comes out
(07:45):
and gets three for twenty. Who is Zach Folks?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Exactly? Good question? Who is Zach Folks? Well, he's from Canterbury.
I think he went to Sir Andrews. He's a tall
batting all rounder but obviously bowls pretty well as a
medium pacer.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
This is the thing.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
The pr machine does not work well enough for cricket
that we're going Who is Zach Folks? He made his
dable in April Pony and you think about any orbit
that even gets called into the squad. We know who
they are and what they had for breakfast with Replex responsors.
But this is the thing, Zach Folks. We've got to
get used to some of these names because I know
T twenty isn't that important, but we should be knowing,
(08:25):
you know, newcomers to our major national teams. I think.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Absolutely. And just to finish, speaking of cricket, the test
which is the Suzy Cricket documentary has been released or
the promo has anyway, they don't mind throwing the odd
little tenty, do they?
Speaker 3 (08:41):
The Australians honestly watch this promos. It's hilarious. It's all
the bad is Steve Smith, David Warner. I think it's
Travis head All losing the plot. Warner versus the water
bottle is particularly funny. But they are losing the plot. Meanwhile,
the bowlers are just sort of chilling out, going on.
There they go again. And it reminded me that I've
(09:03):
been a journal for a while, Pony, and I've interviewed
so many Australian cricketers over the years. A lot of
bowlers never had a problem with him, always enjoyed them.
Craig McDermitt moves tough, Shane Warren, Grett Lee great guy,
Jason Gillispie even better. Richard Johnson, you know, always had
time for you. But batners all nuts, all of them.
(09:25):
And I mean so am I so I can spot one.
But I'm telling you the Australian batners as a breed
out out there, they're out the gates.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Well, it's proven yet again in this promo which I've
also seen, James and I can totally concur with what
you say. Good on your mate. Always good to chat,
Thanks for thanks for taking our callers. Always on a
Sunday afternoon James McCarney. Follow him on socials, He's on
Craigo's While Alternative Commentary Collective and lots of other places
as well. And part of our Sundays here at news
talks EDB a run about this.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
Time for more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen
live to News talks EDB weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on radio
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