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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from newstalk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Going to retire from Test cricket after the upcoming three
Mets series at home against England and.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Goes SOUTHI then a good start for England is there
and he bowls is bowling, bell Is Bowld and airy
drive that his pitch Ubb bowling Yorker and Mooween's out.
Whoa woa, whoa clean bowler Yorka.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Selvey in again cold to the bowling of Saudi and
the teacher I'd got behind here he is to wots
and Bowld.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Five for Suvee. Brilliant performance with the ball. Saudi balls
to him and this one has him hitting towardsman Off
and as cole Court bybra Tory. That's six for Suvee.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Saude again bowls as edge and taking it slip. There's
the seventh I won a performance by Tim Saudi. This
has been he's taken seven for thirty one the best
figures buy a New Zealand to a one day International
cricket and he's absolutely Sweptinger decide.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Yeah, that was the world come in twenty fifteen. But
we're talking Test cricket head. The third Test in the
upcoming series against England starts on December the fourteenth, that is,
three days after Tim Sauthi turns thirty six. He'll remain
available though, if the black Caps happen to make the
World Test Championship Final at Lord's in June of next year.
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A one hundred and four Test matches spread over seventeen summers,
he's taken three hundred and eighty five wickets, second only
to Sir Richard Hadley Tim Southea's average twenty nine point
eighty eight. For those three hundred and eighty five wickets,
He also, oddly enough, has exactly the same number of
white ball wickets three hundred and eighty five of those
as well, so seven hundred and seventy all up the
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most by any New Zealander in international cricket. The next
best is Daniel Vittori's six hundred and ninety six international wickets.
There are many other stats and milestones across a glittering
internetalal career. Tim Southy is with us, how did you
come to this decision that you announced yesterday?
Speaker 4 (02:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:15):
I guess you look at I guess you look at
at what's in front of you, and over the last
last twelve months we've had a number of exciting events.
We've had the tea one day, we'll cut the teach
when we will cup and then this this chunk of
this chunk of test cricket, which is I guess three
three pinnacle sort of events throughout throughout the last twelve months,
and you sort of you're near the end of of
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these test matches and you sort of, I guess, reassess things,
reassessed where you're at, and it just feels like at
the times right now to finish in what a series
to to I guess, finish on against a great side
in England at three three of my favorite grounds in
the world.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
So yeah, I just felt right to finish up at
home and Hamilton.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
As you were mulling it over and discussing it, no
doubt with your family and others who whose opinions mean
the most to you, did you consider going on for
a bit longer?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Yeah, as you do, and you make any decision your
way up a number of options and obviously carrying on
was one of them, or put in the pen was
the other one.
Speaker 4 (03:19):
So yeah, you're mull over it, your.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Way up the pros and cons, and you try and
I guess come up with with what decision you think's right.
And I felt that this is the right decision now.
Also look around and there's a great group of young
bowlers coming through which which I've had the privilege to
play alongside and work with, and I'm excited about about
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them and watching them keep taking this keep moving this
team forward as well.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
Well.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Speaking of young bowlers. March two thousand and eight Test
about against England and Napier nineteen years old. After three
overs on your debut you had two for not many
and they were Michael Vaughn and Andrew Strauss. You must
have thought Test cricket was a piece of cake.
Speaker 5 (04:00):
Yeah, dreams start just I guess, to play his cricket
at such a young age, having.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
Not played a lot of a lot of first class cricket.
Speaker 5 (04:08):
And not been out of I guess not been out
of school for that long either, and been thrown straight
in there against again a quality side in England and
some great players.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
Was just a dream come true.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
I think I was probably young enough to be a
little bit naive as as to what I was walking
into and just had that freedom that a lot of
teenagers have, So yeah, it was just a great, great
way to start. And I guess I guess taken early
wicket to know that you belong and you can and
I guess sattle the Maors A little bit was made
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that day a little bit easier, and you.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
Grew and developed the course across a sixteen seventeen year career.
When do you think your Test bowling sweet spot was?
When do you reckon you were bowling at your best
with the Red Bull?
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I guess you go through through periods.
Speaker 5 (04:59):
I think probably, Yeah, so you look at that that
run to the Test Championship Final.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I guess the partnership with Bolty there for a.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Long period of time was probably, I guess the sweet spot,
And I guess the success we had in that time
was a lot down. So I guess not only the runs,
the better school, but obviously the ability to take twenty
wickets in the bowling group that we had at that time.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, you're and Trent obviously one of our most famous
combinations eight hundred and thirty odd international wickets across one
hundred and seventy seven games together. How much do you
think your success came from bowling with Trent Bold and
vice versa. How much of hers do you think came
from bowling alongside you?
Speaker 4 (05:40):
Yeah, I think a lot.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
We have a lot to I guess thank each other
for and then a partnership that I am really cherished
and enjoyed, enjoyed bowling alongside and we're very fortunate to
do it at under ninety level Fingy Zealand and Northern
Districts and then domestically for free end every now and then,
but to do it with a good mate for ten
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years across all all three formats and at international.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Cricket was pretty special.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
So yeah, I think we complimented each other pretty well
and I think the success that we had in that
period of time was helped by the work that we
did for each other.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Where does the World Test Championship victory set in amongst
your achievements.
Speaker 5 (06:22):
Yeah, there's a number of number of you sort of
have a little bit of time and I'm sure there'll
be more time reflecting over over the next three while.
But you look back and I think the Test Championship
has to be at the top of what what's what's
going on in the last sixteen, seventeen, eighteen years and
alongside the I guess the last few weeks we've had
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in India, So yeah, I think to win a world title,
I guess big crown World Champions in the in the
purest format was pretty special.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
You've played an awful lot of cricket for a pace bowler.
What has been the secret of your longevity and the
relative lack of injury should suffered across your career.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, I guess they're having a reasonably smooth actions has helped.
I guess just the hard work that goes in behind
it that not a lot of people see the conditioning
side of things, getting yourself, getting your.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
Body ready, getting your body right.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
You play a lot of it.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
With with with niggles and and yeah, I guess with
with a bit of pain throughout the throughout the time
as well. But but just I think what gets you
through is just I guess, the fulfillment you get for
going out and doing what we do in the representing
our country and and and fulfilling a childhood dream. So
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I think, yeah, it's just been very fortunate, been I
guess lucky at times to to be able to play
as much as much as they have. But there's a
lot of a lot of work.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Like like like anything you have.
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Have success, there's a lot of work that goes on
behind the scenes that that not many people see.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
How much has the way you bowled in Test cricket
changed over your long Test career?
Speaker 5 (08:08):
Not too much, I think obviously the skill set has
always been the same. I've sort of only ready had
the outswing, delivery and developed I guess the three quarterball,
And yeah, a lot of my bowling has been I
guess channeling around consistency and I guess been relentless in
your line of lenks. So yeah, I guess there's not
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a lot has changed over the years. You just try
and try and use your experience and I guess learning
all the time, trying to improve in certain ways.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
But terms of skill set, it hasn't changed changed too much.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
How do you reflect on your time as New Zealand
Test captain?
Speaker 4 (08:46):
Yeah, it was probably something I never thought I would
have done. I really enjoyed the role. I enjoy thinking about.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
The game, kid deeply about the side, so it was
nice to have a real privilege to lead the side
for a period of time.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
I think my favorite memory of yours actually was a
white ball Game seven for thirty three against him in
Wellington at the twenty fifteen Cricket World Cup. Where does
that sort among your favorite days playing for New Zealand.
Speaker 5 (09:13):
Yeah, I think that was just one of those days
and you don't have many of them, but that was
one of them. Where, Yeah, just a dream day. A
World Cup in New Zealand was special.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
The cricket we were playing at the time and.
Speaker 5 (09:28):
That sort of, I guess, sort of ignited our World
Cup that that that day, I think not only the
way we bowl, but also the way that Brendan particularly
went out and really sort of sort of took it
to the English bowlers and really put a statement on
that tournament. So yeah, I think just seeing the captain
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full hearing and playing in front of front of full
stadiums throughout that whole tournament was certainly a highlight as
well of my career.
Speaker 2 (09:56):
Yeah, it was a great time. So you need fifteen
wickets for four hundred Test matches, you need four sixers
for one hundred sixers and Test matches. What what would
you rather do if you only had one, if you
could only choose.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
One, Yeah, I guess you sit here and it'll be
nice to have both of them.
Speaker 5 (10:15):
But but I think as when you started and as
a kid, you're I guess taking one book it would
have been would have been a dream contruders. So to
sit here with with close to eight hundred food fingers
on and across all all three formats is.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Has been pretty special.
Speaker 5 (10:32):
And I guess something I'll efect on in time, So yeah,
four hundred will be nice. But I guess three three
nine y olds still not a bet effort as well,
so yeah it'd be nice, so I guess to cross
over that.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
But if not, then just yeah, I.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Guess been very privileged and very honored to be able
to represent his yland and do what I love doing
for for such a long period of time. I guess
being a bowler would be nice to sit there and
and uh and tick off a betting a betting record in.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Some way, and will you continue to play domestically franchise
cricket perhaps, but beyond this calendar.
Speaker 5 (11:07):
Year, yeah, I'd still like that. I still feel like
I can still got this games given me a lot,
and I'd like to carry on playing for a period
of time. So yeah, I think just I guess the
toll that test cricket takes on you and the Tea
twenty the amount of teacherenty crickets out there, and so
I think you I'd like to continue to play in
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some way over over the next few years.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Congratulations on an absolutely outstanding Test career, Tim, I hope
it ends on a high over the next month or so.
Thanks for taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
No worries, chs pony, no.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Thank you, Tim. Tim Southy yesterday announcing that the upcoming
Test series against England three tests christ Church, Wellington, Hamilton.
That'll be get for him as far as the Test
arena is concerned.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
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