November 29, 2024 • 12 mins
A horror day in the field for the Blackcaps has given England the upper hand in their first test of the summer. 6 dropped catches has allowed England to build a lead going into the third day of the test as Harry Brook put the Blackcaps to the sword.
Former player and Blackcaps coach John Bracewell joined Elliott Smith to discuss what might have caused the Blackcaps fielding standards to slip, and whether they can fight their way back into the test.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from News Talk SEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, what's worse than six drop catches? On day two?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
A seventh comes o' rourke into Brook and it's edged
and drunking.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
God.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh, it's glean Phillips at gully And that was even
simpler than his first catch. He's drop chalking up number
seven and Harry Brook is openly laughing because this is comical,
this is a clown show. He didn't again, didn't move
his feet, threw the hands at it, and it flew
to Phillips at gully, not that quickly, I must admit,
(00:46):
and it went in and out. Well, you think new Day,
New Dawn.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's the same old story, and it's Matt Heath and
the acc team there. The black Caps didn't necessarily win
the war, but they eventually managed to get Harry Brooke out.
Just a few moments ago.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Matt Henry, mister Darcy comes into Brook Brook edges this
and he's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He's out, finally New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Of Court one, there was a poor shot from Brook,
a tired shot, and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank the Lord that Blundelle.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Took a catch and the fortunate son, Harry Brook has
gone for one hundred and seventy one.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, one hundred and seventy one for six Harry Brook. Yeah,
so many drop catches. England now three hundred and eighty
seven to seven. That's a lead of thirty nine early
on day three. Joining us now to look at the
Test match to this point is from a black Caps
player and coach, John Braceball, joining us on weekend Sport afternoon, John,
thanks for your time, no problem at all. Well, where
(01:44):
do you see this Test match at with England now
developing a bit of a lead.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, well it's moving in a three day three the
wickets flattening out. England in a position where where you
always look forward to attacking the second new ball as
opposed to having to defend it. So that's looking to exit.
But having picked up two wickets this morning, New Zealand
(02:09):
will be hopeful that news they can keep England's lead
down to under three figures and I think that they'll
be quite happy with their morning's work if they can
do that. But you know, England hold the trump card
at the moment, with folks still at the wicket and
looking in reasonable form and the wicket looking as though
(02:30):
it's flattening out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We'll get to the drop catches in a moment. But
that Harry brooknings he is a wonderful player to watch.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What did you make of his not Yeah, I think
he's a sensational player in New Zealand conditions. Certainly he
likes the bounce. He stays really still. But he's a
wonderful ball striker, you know, clean, clean head of the ball,
plays in two forms of the game for England on
(02:57):
a regular basis, so he's a very very clean striker
and a nice player watch as well. In terms of entertainment.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Seven dropped catches, five of them to Harry Brook. There
was six yesterday, one more this morning, three of those
from Tom Latham. What have you made of the fielding
in this Test match, John.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, it's interesting because I've always thought that Hagley Oval
was a difficult catching ground, but not behind the wicket.
It's been a difficult catching ground square of the wicket,
where the shadows come from the bank and the trees
and also the low sun going from east to west.
And you've seen catches dropped in that square of the
(03:42):
wicket area consistently at domestic and international level since the
since it's become a Test match cricket ground, but not
behind the wicket. It's always been quite a simple ground
catching ground behind the wicket because the large side screens
(04:02):
and the embankment. So it's a bit out of the
out of the ordinary, and I think that New Zealand
will be very disappointed in the way they've caught in
this match obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is it just a one off for the fielding. Look,
there's been a few drops in Sri Lanka from memory
India there are a couple, but Harman they won the
series three nil.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
There.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The fielding just seems to have gone off the boil
a little bit over the last twelve months or so.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Is that fear Well, you think about the two guys
who have been the predominant conference, which is Tom Latham
and Glenn Phillips. I mean, and that'sual fact. They're two
of our best catches, so it's really out of the
ordinary and they haven't dropped many catches anywhere. Phillips drops
the catches generally a speculative catch that he's managed to
(04:52):
get one hand to and a thumb you know, and
full diving. So it's very very strange or unusual that
those two have dropped so many catches in this match.
Not so much Conway. You dropped that one in the outfield.
(05:13):
You know, he tends to graze it out there a
little bit. He's got good hands close, but you know,
it's just one of those things that he got there
and he was between strides on the on the on
the on the on the catch and he spilled it
and healed it. But those other two very very odd indeed,
because late night I think it's probably one of the
(05:35):
best catches we've ever had behind the wicket.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're just thinking back to it to your time and
tied to the black Caps, John, you know, fielding was
a real strength of the team. What did you put
in too then as a coaching group and yourself to
make sure that that black Caps fielding was tip top.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think it's just a New Zealand thing. It's it's
the thing that we all think we can contribute to
as a team. It's almost our rugby mentality and team
ethos that that that comes through. Whereas we can be
as good and if not better given out given our
(06:12):
numbers our resources than any other team in the world
if we put the effort in so you know, sort
of that thing that was it becomes almost like our
mark of New Zealand teams. Let's be the best in
the world at one thing at least, which is fielding.
(06:34):
But equally, when you've got somebody like Richard Hadley who's
creating opportunities, you also don't want to let your best
player down.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
What happened when you did, John.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I can still it's the only thing I can still
remember negatively about my cricket career as dropping catches off
Richard Adley. I can't remember dropping catches off other guys.
But if you drop catches off Richard Adley, not because
of his repercussion, it's because you felt so much more
responsible for the outcome of the match if you did,
(07:11):
because you knew that he probably dictated the outcome of
the match. So you spent a lot of time catching
because of that responsibility that you held.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Indeed, Sir John Bracell with us on news Talk ZIB
the bowling wise, I guess the drop catches is the headline.
But we've seen Nathan Smith make his debut and sort
of a rebuild going on with the black Caps bowling
Arsenal have have you made, what have you made of
the bowling attack in this test to this point.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, I quite, I quite like Smith. There's a third
fourth seema, so you know, they're introducing him into the
game really well. So it's a handy introduction. I think
Duffy is a good bowler and he's yet to have that,
you know, that real opportunity as well. So our stocks
(08:03):
aren't too bad. And I think in domestic cricket we've
got a number of young class starting to come, well,
not necessarily young class, you know, we've got a number
of players who are starting to emerge into the game,
and I think New Zealand have done a pretty good
job and introducing them through some sometimes through the white
ball game into Test cricket while we have this movement
(08:26):
slightly out with the bolt and then then Subi and
Wagner starting to move on and move out of the game.
So I think New Zealand have done a pretty good
job in terms of developing that confidence and that depth
in regards to our next generation of bowlers.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Indeed, and Tim Salvey bowing out, I'm trying to think,
did you introduce them to Test cricket? John, we use
at your ear.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, it was actually you know only because I knew
that he played rugby and I thought, and as he
stands on the customer's going to be a team man.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, Well, as he stands on the custom of his
test retirement. You know, some sixteen years later, what have
you made of his career and how he's poised to
bow out of this team.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh, I think he's just been a genuine great I
think he's been a genuine great leader. I think he's
been a genuine great bowler. And he's and he's sacrificed
a lot for New Zealand cricket over the years in
all three format. It's always been available. When he goes back,
he always enjoys playing for ND you know. So he's
(09:35):
he's almost like that club guy, come good cricketer. And
whilst he's yes, he's gained some really good financial rewards
from the modern day game. He's deserved those rewards, but
he's also returned to New Zealand, you know, performance after
performance and effort after effort, and that can't be denied.
(09:59):
Also for the amount of bowling he's done. He's a
remarkably good catcher and he's taken some wonderful catches in
the slips for New Zealand for a quick bowl, so
his contribution can't be underestimated and certainly if it's exaggerated,
it deserves to be.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And just finally, John with the Black Caps will have
the bowl last on this wicket at Hagley Oval. In
terms of how it develops the pitch over the last three, four,
five days of this Test match, what are you expecting
to see as this Test match, as you said, moving
day and then comes to a close over the next
couple from the pitch perspective.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, well, New Zealand is one of the rare countries
in the world where your best opportunity to win the
matches in the first innings and then if you don't
take advantage of that first innings then your opportunities to
win the match decline. Based on the fact that our
wickets tend to get better as games go on, and
(11:03):
the fourth innings is often sometimes the best time to
bat because our wickets become so sort of benign of
any attacking for spin or variable bounds. So the longer
England bat now, the harder it is for New Zealand
to be able to be able to win this match.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We watch on with interest. Thank you very much for
your expertise, John, appreciate your time on News Talks THEB
this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Absolutely no problem at all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That is John Bracewill, former black Caps player and coach,
giving his view of where we sits on Day three
of this Test match between the black Caps and England
at Hagley Oval, England just taking over four hundred runs
four hundred and one for seven. That's a lead of
fifty three Atkinson and Stokes at the Wackit had nearly
ten overs of the new ball to this point as
(11:53):
well for the black Caps, and they've managed to grab
a couple of wickets in this session, but seven drop catches,
six of them on day so a further one this morning.
Five to the fate of the bats of Harry Brooks
that were dropped. She can't drop a player like Harry
Brooks that many times have The black Caps missed a
golden opportunity to take charge of this Test match. Maybe
(12:18):
not just one golden opportunity, but seven golden opportunities.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Well, what's worse than six drop catches? On day two?
Speaker 3 (00:16):
A seventh comes o' rourke into Brook and it's edged
and drunking.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
God.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Oh, it's glean Phillips at gully And that was even
simpler than his first catch. He's drop chalking up number
seven and Harry Brook is openly laughing because this is comical,
this is a clown show. He didn't again, didn't move
his feet, threw the hands at it, and it flew
to Phillips at gully, not that quickly, I must admit,
(00:46):
and it went in and out. Well, you think new Day,
New Dawn.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
It's the same old story, and it's Matt Heath and
the acc team there. The black Caps didn't necessarily win
the war, but they eventually managed to get Harry Brooke out.
Just a few moments ago.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Matt Henry, mister Darcy comes into Brook Brook edges this
and he's gone.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
He's out, finally New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Of Court one, there was a poor shot from Brook,
a tired shot, and.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Thank the Lord that Blundelle.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Took a catch and the fortunate son, Harry Brook has
gone for one hundred and seventy one.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, one hundred and seventy one for six Harry Brook. Yeah,
so many drop catches. England now three hundred and eighty
seven to seven. That's a lead of thirty nine early
on day three. Joining us now to look at the
Test match to this point is from a black Caps
player and coach, John Braceball, joining us on weekend Sport afternoon, John,
thanks for your time, no problem at all. Well, where
(01:44):
do you see this Test match at with England now
developing a bit of a lead.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
Yeah, well it's moving in a three day three the
wickets flattening out. England in a position where where you
always look forward to attacking the second new ball as
opposed to having to defend it. So that's looking to exit.
But having picked up two wickets this morning, New Zealand
(02:09):
will be hopeful that news they can keep England's lead
down to under three figures and I think that they'll
be quite happy with their morning's work if they can
do that. But you know, England hold the trump card
at the moment, with folks still at the wicket and
looking in reasonable form and the wicket looking as though
(02:30):
it's flattening out.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
We'll get to the drop catches in a moment. But
that Harry brooknings he is a wonderful player to watch.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
What did you make of his not Yeah, I think
he's a sensational player in New Zealand conditions. Certainly he
likes the bounce. He stays really still. But he's a
wonderful ball striker, you know, clean, clean head of the ball,
plays in two forms of the game for England on
(02:57):
a regular basis, so he's a very very clean striker
and a nice player watch as well. In terms of entertainment.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Seven dropped catches, five of them to Harry Brook. There
was six yesterday, one more this morning, three of those
from Tom Latham. What have you made of the fielding
in this Test match, John.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, it's interesting because I've always thought that Hagley Oval
was a difficult catching ground, but not behind the wicket.
It's been a difficult catching ground square of the wicket,
where the shadows come from the bank and the trees
and also the low sun going from east to west.
And you've seen catches dropped in that square of the
(03:42):
wicket area consistently at domestic and international level since the
since it's become a Test match cricket ground, but not
behind the wicket. It's always been quite a simple ground
catching ground behind the wicket because the large side screens
(04:02):
and the embankment. So it's a bit out of the
out of the ordinary, and I think that New Zealand
will be very disappointed in the way they've caught in
this match obviously.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Is it just a one off for the fielding. Look,
there's been a few drops in Sri Lanka from memory
India there are a couple, but Harman they won the
series three nil.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
There.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
The fielding just seems to have gone off the boil
a little bit over the last twelve months or so.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Is that fear Well, you think about the two guys
who have been the predominant conference, which is Tom Latham
and Glenn Phillips. I mean, and that'sual fact. They're two
of our best catches, so it's really out of the
ordinary and they haven't dropped many catches anywhere. Phillips drops
the catches generally a speculative catch that he's managed to
(04:52):
get one hand to and a thumb you know, and
full diving. So it's very very strange or unusual that
those two have dropped so many catches in this match.
Not so much Conway. You dropped that one in the outfield.
(05:13):
You know, he tends to graze it out there a
little bit. He's got good hands close, but you know,
it's just one of those things that he got there
and he was between strides on the on the on
the on the on the catch and he spilled it
and healed it. But those other two very very odd indeed,
because late night I think it's probably one of the
(05:35):
best catches we've ever had behind the wicket.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
You're just thinking back to it to your time and
tied to the black Caps, John, you know, fielding was
a real strength of the team. What did you put
in too then as a coaching group and yourself to
make sure that that black Caps fielding was tip top.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
I think it's just a New Zealand thing. It's it's
the thing that we all think we can contribute to
as a team. It's almost our rugby mentality and team
ethos that that that comes through. Whereas we can be
as good and if not better given out given our
(06:12):
numbers our resources than any other team in the world
if we put the effort in so you know, sort
of that thing that was it becomes almost like our
mark of New Zealand teams. Let's be the best in
the world at one thing at least, which is fielding.
(06:34):
But equally, when you've got somebody like Richard Hadley who's
creating opportunities, you also don't want to let your best
player down.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
What happened when you did, John.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
I can still it's the only thing I can still
remember negatively about my cricket career as dropping catches off
Richard Adley. I can't remember dropping catches off other guys.
But if you drop catches off Richard Adley, not because
of his repercussion, it's because you felt so much more
responsible for the outcome of the match if you did,
(07:11):
because you knew that he probably dictated the outcome of
the match. So you spent a lot of time catching
because of that responsibility that you held.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Indeed, Sir John Bracell with us on news Talk ZIB
the bowling wise, I guess the drop catches is the headline.
But we've seen Nathan Smith make his debut and sort
of a rebuild going on with the black Caps bowling
Arsenal have have you made, what have you made of
the bowling attack in this test to this point.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Yeah, I quite, I quite like Smith. There's a third
fourth seema, so you know, they're introducing him into the
game really well. So it's a handy introduction. I think
Duffy is a good bowler and he's yet to have that,
you know, that real opportunity as well. So our stocks
(08:03):
aren't too bad. And I think in domestic cricket we've
got a number of young class starting to come, well,
not necessarily young class, you know, we've got a number
of players who are starting to emerge into the game,
and I think New Zealand have done a pretty good
job and introducing them through some sometimes through the white
ball game into Test cricket while we have this movement
(08:26):
slightly out with the bolt and then then Subi and
Wagner starting to move on and move out of the game.
So I think New Zealand have done a pretty good
job in terms of developing that confidence and that depth
in regards to our next generation of bowlers.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Indeed, and Tim Salvey bowing out, I'm trying to think,
did you introduce them to Test cricket? John, we use
at your ear.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, it was actually you know only because I knew
that he played rugby and I thought, and as he
stands on the customer's going to be a team man.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, Well, as he stands on the custom of his
test retirement. You know, some sixteen years later, what have
you made of his career and how he's poised to
bow out of this team.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Oh, I think he's just been a genuine great I
think he's been a genuine great leader. I think he's
been a genuine great bowler. And he's and he's sacrificed
a lot for New Zealand cricket over the years in
all three format. It's always been available. When he goes back,
he always enjoys playing for ND you know. So he's
(09:35):
he's almost like that club guy, come good cricketer. And
whilst he's yes, he's gained some really good financial rewards
from the modern day game. He's deserved those rewards, but
he's also returned to New Zealand, you know, performance after
performance and effort after effort, and that can't be denied.
(09:59):
Also for the amount of bowling he's done. He's a
remarkably good catcher and he's taken some wonderful catches in
the slips for New Zealand for a quick bowl, so
his contribution can't be underestimated and certainly if it's exaggerated,
it deserves to be.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
And just finally, John with the Black Caps will have
the bowl last on this wicket at Hagley Oval. In
terms of how it develops the pitch over the last three, four,
five days of this Test match, what are you expecting
to see as this Test match, as you said, moving
day and then comes to a close over the next
couple from the pitch perspective.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Yeah, well, New Zealand is one of the rare countries
in the world where your best opportunity to win the
matches in the first innings and then if you don't
take advantage of that first innings then your opportunities to
win the match decline. Based on the fact that our
wickets tend to get better as games go on, and
(11:03):
the fourth innings is often sometimes the best time to
bat because our wickets become so sort of benign of
any attacking for spin or variable bounds. So the longer
England bat now, the harder it is for New Zealand
to be able to be able to win this match.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
We watch on with interest. Thank you very much for
your expertise, John, appreciate your time on News Talks THEB
this afternoon.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Absolutely no problem at all.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
That is John Bracewill, former black Caps player and coach,
giving his view of where we sits on Day three
of this Test match between the black Caps and England
at Hagley Oval, England just taking over four hundred runs
four hundred and one for seven. That's a lead of
fifty three Atkinson and Stokes at the Wackit had nearly
ten overs of the new ball to this point as
(11:53):
well for the black Caps, and they've managed to grab
a couple of wickets in this session, but seven drop catches,
six of them on day so a further one this morning.
Five to the fate of the bats of Harry Brooks
that were dropped. She can't drop a player like Harry
Brooks that many times have The black Caps missed a
golden opportunity to take charge of this Test match. Maybe
(12:18):
not just one golden opportunity, but seven golden opportunities.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
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