The Black Caps failed in their bid to make it 3 from 3 against Sri Lanka, falling short by just 7 runs at Saxton Oval.
Jacob Duffy was named Player of the Series and was the only New Zealand bowler to avoid damage in Sri Lanka's batting onslaught.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So it's mentioned the Black Cabs since Sri Lanka going
to fifty over mode tomorrow matches at the Bason Reserve
and then Hamilton on Wednesday and Auckland next Saturday. Jacob
Duffy player of the series in the two to one
T twenty win over Sri Lanka, bulls.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Knocks them over.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The danger man Pereira. Oh he's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
First ball of a Spellers and he Duffy bang, bang.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And welcome back Jacob Duffy, right on the money, right
from four, one fall straight you miss I hit.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Cannot keep that man out of the action at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I certainly couldn't. His figures across the three games
three for twenty one, four for fifteen and one for thirty.
That's eight wickets at an average of eight point two
five and a runs per over number of just five
and a half, which in T twenty cricket is right
up there, Jacob uff he is with us. Congrats on
your figures, mate. How happy have you been with your
(01:10):
bowling over the last week in these T twenty matches?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, mate, it's been it's been very good. It's coming
out well. Yeah, it's just nice to get a whole
series put together and they'll see contribute to a couple
sort of game winning game winning influences too, and then
obviously get a series winning against what's you know, pretty
very good side with the high quality betting order and
some skill for bowlers. So it's bloody good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, when you're preparing for T twenty bowling, just the
four overs, what is your strategy? What are you? What
are you? What are your bowling plans? In T twenty cricket.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a great question. They changed quite a lot too
on us at the start. I think a big part
of it is still trying to sort of bring stumps
into play, had a good length. I think sometimes you
get carried away with trying to bowl but too fast
or too heavy and naturally you can drag you it short.
So top of the stumps is always sort of my
cute card. And especially these link and betters, they're quite
good on their back foot, so they try to hit
(02:05):
you quiet square, so sort of bringing bringing them forward
a little bit, you know, using the outswing in the
first few overs, and then obviously adapting from there. It's
all a bit adapting to sort of sort of the
way they're playing. They're coming pretty hard. If we need
to close out and get a bit more defensive, you
can use your SLA balls and Yorkers and stuff in
that regard. But starting off, its all starts off pretty
similar and then we sort of adapt and role from there.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really, are you always looking to take wickets?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes? And no? I guess like yes is the main
answer to that. We are, But sometimes I guess that
comes through defense. You know, these guys, you know, once
they get going, we saw in that first game, they
just want to keep hitting boundaries, which is you know,
that's the name of the game. So sometimes denying that
boundaries the more aggressive options. So if we can deny
those boundaries and build that pressure through that way, I
(02:53):
guess that's that's a form of offense in itself.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you often hear commentators others talk about, you know,
getting out of and over if you've bold four good balls.
We know T twenty can change in the space of
just a couple of deliveries, you know, do you always
just have to be cognizant of the fact that, yeah,
that batters can go bang bang if you're not right
where you need to be.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
One hundred percent. Mate, you often get to say if
you do go two or three dots, so a guy
as a bowl, you get a little bit at chy,
just feeling you know, like, okay, he's he's probably lining
up here. That's kind of a good We used to
call it a gooseball, get out of strife ball, where
you know you might set a defensive field, like you
might have your two guys back on the league side
and then try him on the back heel sort of thing,
(03:37):
just to you know, get it off that pressure Olivia,
but pressure off yourself because you know he's coming for you.
But then again, like I say, that can be the
time where if you hold strong as well and make
them play a tough shot off a good ball, then
that sort of brings you taking abilities and to play too.
So it's really summing up the situation and playing each
ball in its merits. I have to say that's probably
(03:58):
my first series. I think it is my first game
is actually playing with met Henry and having a guy
like that there with you, helping you out, talking you
through it, just using in between overs and we just
talk a lot He's a guy that loves his loves
his bowling, and loves talking the game. So me and
him got on really well on that front. So to
keep those communication discussions going was really awesome for me.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Outstanding. And you're heading one forty k quite regularly now
it always have been, I presume, but yeah, I saw
the speed gun a couple of times. You're you're getting
up up and over one forty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I actually happened a couple of years ago with
Shane Jurgensen. I was away on a trip. We're in Dubai.
I didn't actually play, but I was on the sidelines
and working with him, and he literally he just gave
me a couple of sort of things about running in
sort of on the toes instead of on the instead
of my heels, and the angle on my front arm
being more tools of target as a post upright, And honestly,
(04:50):
I don't haven't looked back since then. It's kind of weirdly,
it instantly gave me sort of five k's. I was
always sort of at low thirties, but now I'm sort
of hovering mid to high. One thirty is pretty regular
touching one forty. So yeah, big shout out to Jerga
because that was that was quite huge and sort of
how the shape micro has had my rebul game massively
and then off. So you can at international level if
(05:11):
you're moving the ball with sort of one thirty five
to one thirty eight, that's you know, it makes for
handy sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
One hundred. You've been running for a while. Your debut
for Otigo twenty twelve have been consistently excellent domestically for ages.
You've had to be patient though, with Tim Southy and
others in the pecking order ahead of you. How challenging
has it been to be to be patient and wait
for international opportunities?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh yeah, I said, I get, I said a little bit,
but I haven't really viewed it all that. I love
playing for Tigo. I've loved, you know, competing and growing
sort of the program down there. Obviously New Zealand's always
been the goal. But hasn't you say? I haven't always dominated,
to be fair, has been ups and downs, and just
like anyone, you go for your trials and populations. But
(05:57):
I guess really in the last sort of two or
three years, really start to feel like I belong at
the international level certainly, and you have been hungry for more.
I guess the Test matches haven't quite happened for me
well yet. Hopefully they will one day. But yeah, I
guess seeing Tim go about it, it's it's been a
huge honor to sit behind him and watching him go
(06:17):
about his business. And I guess he was holding me
out of the team there for a long time, but
I couldn't think of a better bloke to be doing
it because he treated me with huge respect and will
always help me me grow my game too, so I
owe him a lot in that regard. So I do
feel like, you know, I'm ready, ready to take a
step up and a bit more responsibility hopefully. And you know,
(06:40):
obviously see was selective take it going forward, but I'd
love to be more of a sort of permanent fixture
in the black Caps, sit, n't you?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And in all formats? Because what I mean, you're all
but three hundred first class wickets, so you read Bill
Bowling's obviously been a strength as well down in Otago.
Are you ambitious in a red bull sense for New
Zealand as well?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh? One hundred I'd say that's probably my potentially my
best format in the last sort of four or five
years going away of doing you know, ailing a lot
of overs for a tigo and you know, taking a
for fure work ats it in the most recent few
years anyway, especially so I've lined up a county state
next year for Worcesters, so we got to go test
my skills over and somewhere else, and that as in
(07:22):
Barbe Tour next year world, you know, be desperate to
make a debut over there and hopefully you know, fingers
crossed and even know what happens. But yeah, no, I'm
dead keen to play that test cricket and still probably
the pinnacle for me.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And you mentioned a word before, hunger or being hungry
for more opportunities, you know, getting a string of games
as you have just recently, and I guess across the
calendar year of twenty twenty four when you were featuring
more prominently, does that make you hungrier to wear the
black cat more often?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That doesn't make a hundred of sense. I've been on
a lot of tours now and yeah, I've probably carried
the drinks more than I've played, So that makes you
hunger in itself. But then obviously you taste a little
bit of success and you know what it's like to
actually add value to a team and a team series one. Yeah,
it does. It does make you want more. And like
I said, I feel like, you know, it's my time.
(08:10):
I'd love to be sort of a permanent fixture in
the setup. So I'm just going to focus on keep
doing what I can do and bring my best foot
forward and I guess let the rest take care of itself.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And does this feel like a bit of a new
wave in the New Zealand side? I look at yourself,
Zach Folks, Mitch Hay, Tim Robinson, Bevan Jacobs although he
didn't play, and Nathan Smith in the in the squad
also for the one days. A lot of new faces
there and new captain Mitch Center. Does it feel like
a bit of a new wave of black Cap cricketers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, it certainly does. That's well the way I say,
it's pretty exciting. Mate, They've got some seriously talented cricketers.
And then Aaron Rutchins Roland say he's an old boy
yet either, So yeah, we've got some that that band
lineut seriously talent that I think you saw a glimpse
of Robbie. I know he's got more more to come,
and then you saw what Mitch Mitchie did in that
second game, and folks, he was outstanding in Tri Lanka
(09:01):
when he played those games over there, he probably his
two center, probably didn't have the series he wanted wanted
this time. But he's twenty two and he you know,
he's got the head of him like he's played one
hundred games. So it's exciting. I hope New Zealand. Yeah,
New Zealand cricket fans get round. I think we've seen
just by a turn out of the crowds that they're
enjoying the brand of cricket we're playing. So I think
(09:22):
I think it's exciting. And there's still guys like Willow
ought to come back in and I see Kj's bowling
beautifully as well, so there's plenty of depth and plenty
of talent plating around them. It's good plants in New
z Eld cricket.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think indeed more sounds like a packed house at
the Basin on Sunday as well. So as you move
from the T twenty format into the fifty over stuff
go from what your twenty four deliveries to sixty, how
much of your T twenty success can you take into
the fifty over format.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I think it'd take a lot of confidence just
to know, you know, you're playing similar group of players.
We had reasonable success over in Trilanka recently, two in
that one day series too, so I definitely can obviously
playing at the base and we get a bit more
bounce as well, so that'll suit us quite nicely here
to those SriLankan wickets. But like I said, we're actually
at Schlankan town. If you saw the the ODI teams
(10:13):
of the year and I think they had four players
in it, yeah, you know they're top three betters all
in it. So we're up against the hell of a side.
But I think we'll be right up for the fight
and come off some success, which is good. Just brings
that sort of confidence knowing you can you knowing you
can compete and do well at this level.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And at the end of this series there'll be a
squad name for the champions Trophy next month and into
March presumably. Keend of play well in these three matches
and get your name on that list, Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mate, that'd be yeah for sure. You know that's a
nicety c event. That's something I haven't been to before,
but I desperately love to go to that and put
my hand up and you know, potentially bring home some
silvere with New Zealand too. That's what that's what it's
all about, and winning games of crep for your country
and yeah, I definitely love to be a part of that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, we've loved watching you in the T twenty series
against Srilanka. Jacob. All the best for the other fifty
over games over the next week or so and beyond
into the next segment of a pretty exciting summer. Thanks
for taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
No thanks, mate, no worries, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
No, appreciate your time, Jacob, Jacob Duffy there off the
back of a terrific series. Really, those numbers for T
twenty are exceptional. Three for twenty one, four for fifteen,
one for thirty eight wickets at eight point twenty five
and only five and a half runs per over.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
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You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Fine
from newstalk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
So it's mentioned the Black Cabs since Sri Lanka going
to fifty over mode tomorrow matches at the Bason Reserve
and then Hamilton on Wednesday and Auckland next Saturday. Jacob
Duffy player of the series in the two to one
T twenty win over Sri Lanka, bulls.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Knocks them over.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
The danger man Pereira. Oh he's so good.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
First ball of a Spellers and he Duffy bang, bang.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
And welcome back Jacob Duffy, right on the money, right
from four, one fall straight you miss I hit.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Cannot keep that man out of the action at the moment.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah, I certainly couldn't. His figures across the three games
three for twenty one, four for fifteen and one for thirty.
That's eight wickets at an average of eight point two
five and a runs per over number of just five
and a half, which in T twenty cricket is right
up there, Jacob uff he is with us. Congrats on
your figures, mate. How happy have you been with your
(01:10):
bowling over the last week in these T twenty matches?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, mate, it's been it's been very good. It's coming
out well. Yeah, it's just nice to get a whole
series put together and they'll see contribute to a couple
sort of game winning game winning influences too, and then
obviously get a series winning against what's you know, pretty
very good side with the high quality betting order and
some skill for bowlers. So it's bloody good.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, when you're preparing for T twenty bowling, just the
four overs, what is your strategy? What are you? What
are you? What are your bowling plans? In T twenty cricket.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a great question. They changed quite a lot too
on us at the start. I think a big part
of it is still trying to sort of bring stumps
into play, had a good length. I think sometimes you
get carried away with trying to bowl but too fast
or too heavy and naturally you can drag you it short.
So top of the stumps is always sort of my
cute card. And especially these link and betters, they're quite
good on their back foot, so they try to hit
(02:05):
you quiet square, so sort of bringing bringing them forward
a little bit, you know, using the outswing in the
first few overs, and then obviously adapting from there. It's
all a bit adapting to sort of sort of the
way they're playing. They're coming pretty hard. If we need
to close out and get a bit more defensive, you
can use your SLA balls and Yorkers and stuff in
that regard. But starting off, its all starts off pretty
similar and then we sort of adapt and role from there.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Really, are you always looking to take wickets?
Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yes? And no? I guess like yes is the main
answer to that. We are, But sometimes I guess that
comes through defense. You know, these guys, you know, once
they get going, we saw in that first game, they
just want to keep hitting boundaries, which is you know,
that's the name of the game. So sometimes denying that
boundaries the more aggressive options. So if we can deny
those boundaries and build that pressure through that way, I
(02:53):
guess that's that's a form of offense in itself.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
And you often hear commentators others talk about, you know,
getting out of and over if you've bold four good balls.
We know T twenty can change in the space of
just a couple of deliveries, you know, do you always
just have to be cognizant of the fact that, yeah,
that batters can go bang bang if you're not right
where you need to be.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
One hundred percent. Mate, you often get to say if
you do go two or three dots, so a guy
as a bowl, you get a little bit at chy,
just feeling you know, like, okay, he's he's probably lining
up here. That's kind of a good We used to
call it a gooseball, get out of strife ball, where
you know you might set a defensive field, like you
might have your two guys back on the league side
and then try him on the back heel sort of thing,
(03:37):
just to you know, get it off that pressure Olivia,
but pressure off yourself because you know he's coming for you.
But then again, like I say, that can be the
time where if you hold strong as well and make
them play a tough shot off a good ball, then
that sort of brings you taking abilities and to play too.
So it's really summing up the situation and playing each
ball in its merits. I have to say that's probably
(03:58):
my first series. I think it is my first game
is actually playing with met Henry and having a guy
like that there with you, helping you out, talking you
through it, just using in between overs and we just
talk a lot He's a guy that loves his loves
his bowling, and loves talking the game. So me and
him got on really well on that front. So to
keep those communication discussions going was really awesome for me.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Outstanding. And you're heading one forty k quite regularly now
it always have been, I presume, but yeah, I saw
the speed gun a couple of times. You're you're getting
up up and over one forty.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, I actually happened a couple of years ago with
Shane Jurgensen. I was away on a trip. We're in Dubai.
I didn't actually play, but I was on the sidelines
and working with him, and he literally he just gave
me a couple of sort of things about running in
sort of on the toes instead of on the instead
of my heels, and the angle on my front arm
being more tools of target as a post upright, And honestly,
(04:50):
I don't haven't looked back since then. It's kind of weirdly,
it instantly gave me sort of five k's. I was
always sort of at low thirties, but now I'm sort
of hovering mid to high. One thirty is pretty regular
touching one forty. So yeah, big shout out to Jerga
because that was that was quite huge and sort of
how the shape micro has had my rebul game massively
and then off. So you can at international level if
(05:11):
you're moving the ball with sort of one thirty five
to one thirty eight, that's you know, it makes for
handy sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
One hundred. You've been running for a while. Your debut
for Otigo twenty twelve have been consistently excellent domestically for ages.
You've had to be patient though, with Tim Southy and
others in the pecking order ahead of you. How challenging
has it been to be to be patient and wait
for international opportunities?
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Oh yeah, I said, I get, I said a little bit,
but I haven't really viewed it all that. I love
playing for Tigo. I've loved, you know, competing and growing
sort of the program down there. Obviously New Zealand's always
been the goal. But hasn't you say? I haven't always dominated,
to be fair, has been ups and downs, and just
like anyone, you go for your trials and populations. But
(05:57):
I guess really in the last sort of two or
three years, really start to feel like I belong at
the international level certainly, and you have been hungry for more.
I guess the Test matches haven't quite happened for me
well yet. Hopefully they will one day. But yeah, I
guess seeing Tim go about it, it's it's been a
huge honor to sit behind him and watching him go
(06:17):
about his business. And I guess he was holding me
out of the team there for a long time, but
I couldn't think of a better bloke to be doing
it because he treated me with huge respect and will
always help me me grow my game too, so I
owe him a lot in that regard. So I do
feel like, you know, I'm ready, ready to take a
step up and a bit more responsibility hopefully. And you know,
(06:40):
obviously see was selective take it going forward, but I'd
love to be more of a sort of permanent fixture
in the black Caps, sit, n't you?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And in all formats? Because what I mean, you're all
but three hundred first class wickets, so you read Bill
Bowling's obviously been a strength as well down in Otago.
Are you ambitious in a red bull sense for New
Zealand as well?
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Oh? One hundred I'd say that's probably my potentially my
best format in the last sort of four or five
years going away of doing you know, ailing a lot
of overs for a tigo and you know, taking a
for fure work ats it in the most recent few
years anyway, especially so I've lined up a county state
next year for Worcesters, so we got to go test
my skills over and somewhere else, and that as in
(07:22):
Barbe Tour next year world, you know, be desperate to
make a debut over there and hopefully you know, fingers
crossed and even know what happens. But yeah, no, I'm
dead keen to play that test cricket and still probably
the pinnacle for me.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And you mentioned a word before, hunger or being hungry
for more opportunities, you know, getting a string of games
as you have just recently, and I guess across the
calendar year of twenty twenty four when you were featuring
more prominently, does that make you hungrier to wear the
black cat more often?
Speaker 3 (07:50):
That doesn't make a hundred of sense. I've been on
a lot of tours now and yeah, I've probably carried
the drinks more than I've played, So that makes you
hunger in itself. But then obviously you taste a little
bit of success and you know what it's like to
actually add value to a team and a team series one. Yeah,
it does. It does make you want more. And like
I said, I feel like, you know, it's my time.
(08:10):
I'd love to be sort of a permanent fixture in
the setup. So I'm just going to focus on keep
doing what I can do and bring my best foot
forward and I guess let the rest take care of itself.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
And does this feel like a bit of a new
wave in the New Zealand side? I look at yourself,
Zach Folks, Mitch Hay, Tim Robinson, Bevan Jacobs although he
didn't play, and Nathan Smith in the in the squad
also for the one days. A lot of new faces
there and new captain Mitch Center. Does it feel like
a bit of a new wave of black Cap cricketers.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
Yeah, yeah, it certainly does. That's well the way I say,
it's pretty exciting. Mate, They've got some seriously talented cricketers.
And then Aaron Rutchins Roland say he's an old boy
yet either, So yeah, we've got some that that band
lineut seriously talent that I think you saw a glimpse
of Robbie. I know he's got more more to come,
and then you saw what Mitch Mitchie did in that
second game, and folks, he was outstanding in Tri Lanka
(09:01):
when he played those games over there, he probably his
two center, probably didn't have the series he wanted wanted
this time. But he's twenty two and he you know,
he's got the head of him like he's played one
hundred games. So it's exciting. I hope New Zealand. Yeah,
New Zealand cricket fans get round. I think we've seen
just by a turn out of the crowds that they're
enjoying the brand of cricket we're playing. So I think
(09:22):
I think it's exciting. And there's still guys like Willow
ought to come back in and I see Kj's bowling
beautifully as well, so there's plenty of depth and plenty
of talent plating around them. It's good plants in New
z Eld cricket.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I think indeed more sounds like a packed house at
the Basin on Sunday as well. So as you move
from the T twenty format into the fifty over stuff
go from what your twenty four deliveries to sixty, how
much of your T twenty success can you take into
the fifty over format.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
Yeah, I think it'd take a lot of confidence just
to know, you know, you're playing similar group of players.
We had reasonable success over in Trilanka recently, two in
that one day series too, so I definitely can obviously
playing at the base and we get a bit more
bounce as well, so that'll suit us quite nicely here
to those SriLankan wickets. But like I said, we're actually
at Schlankan town. If you saw the the ODI teams
(10:13):
of the year and I think they had four players
in it, yeah, you know they're top three betters all
in it. So we're up against the hell of a side.
But I think we'll be right up for the fight
and come off some success, which is good. Just brings
that sort of confidence knowing you can you knowing you
can compete and do well at this level.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
And at the end of this series there'll be a
squad name for the champions Trophy next month and into
March presumably. Keend of play well in these three matches
and get your name on that list, Oh.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
Mate, that'd be yeah for sure. You know that's a
nicety c event. That's something I haven't been to before,
but I desperately love to go to that and put
my hand up and you know, potentially bring home some
silvere with New Zealand too. That's what that's what it's
all about, and winning games of crep for your country
and yeah, I definitely love to be a part of that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Well, we've loved watching you in the T twenty series
against Srilanka. Jacob. All the best for the other fifty
over games over the next week or so and beyond
into the next segment of a pretty exciting summer. Thanks
for taking the time for a chat.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
No thanks, mate, no worries, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
No, appreciate your time, Jacob, Jacob Duffy there off the
back of a terrific series. Really, those numbers for T
twenty are exceptional. Three for twenty one, four for fifteen,
one for thirty eight wickets at eight point twenty five
and only five and a half runs per over.
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