February 8, 2025 • 10 mins
The Super Bowl LIX is set to kick off tomorrow afternoon - and the Kansas City Chiefs are feeling hopeful they can break their record and win a third time.
They're set to face off against the Philadelphia Eagles at the Caesars Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana.
NFL expert Leon Busby joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He the biggest day on the American sporting calendar is
Super Bowl. Super Bowl fifty nine tomorrow underway at around
twelve thirty New Zealand time. The Kansas City Chiefs looking
for an unprecedented three Peet.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Wurston Gold, mahamesquens a super Bowl Esta Hurricane Jack Park.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Kansas City. And this was the Andy Reid Special and
the tame winning drive of the Holmes career. He's been
waiting for his one Super Bows, but he's never had
it in an overtime. He is the best, He is
the standard. You're Michael Jordan wins it again here, So
Kansas City up against the Philadelphia Eagles, who they beat
(00:54):
in the twenty twenty three Super Bowl. Now, regular listeners
to the show will have enjoyed, as I have, the
regular emailed thoughts of Leon in Melbourne, among other things,
a massive fan and not just that, completing a dissertation
as part of his university studies on the impact of
the transfer portal and name, image and likeness as an
(01:17):
abridgement between college and professional sports in North America specifically
the NFL and the NBA. So we thought let's get
Leon on to preview Super Bowl. Leon from Melbourne's with us,
Leon Busby to give him his full title. Thanks for
joining us, Leon, How are you mate?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm great, Thanks, Jason, Thanks and Foremotes. Thanks for allowing
me to come on your show. You know, I know
you're an award winner. Then you're the top of the
totem pole, say to speak, but living here in Melbourne,
I I have to listen to a show and I
love your work.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, it's great to have you as part of the
show today because we, as I say, assume that you
would be right across this. So let's go team from team,
starting with the Kansas City Chiefs. They've made Super Bowl
five times in the last six, they've won the last two.
It's a faircely competitive sport. What has made the chief
so good for so long? And do you back them
(02:11):
to go three on the trot?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah? So there's a number of reasons why the two
time defending champions are back to try and win an
unpresented in third straight Super Bowl. Why don't we start
with the guy? Heveryone plays under center for Kansas City
as Patrick Mahomes. So he's played in the seven straight
conference championship game since he became the starting quarterback for Casey,
which is unheard of. This will be a fifth Super Bowl,
(02:36):
having won three and lost one. The one he did lose,
he had most of them studying offensive lineout injured. So
and this is all before he's even ten three. So
Mahomes is a depth there, finding a way to lead
his team to a win, particularly in the moments in
a matter of the most part of his identity that
you can't replicate. His mahme. There's such a force in
football that a lot of people often just call him
(02:58):
number fifteen now, so even a lot of people are
calling them the goat and waiting.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The Mahomes Travis Kelcey connection. Let's talk about that. Why
is that such an effective combination? And is it one
of the greatest we've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, so the chiefs of a well balanced offense with
their wide receivers and running backs, but yeah, it's Tidy
and Travis Kelcey. He's crucial to Kansas City's success. So
he forms a lethal passing past catching tandem with his quarterback,
among the very best in the NFL. Player fistory. So
I think it's something like the combined for seventeen and
(03:33):
forty five yard, nineteen touchdowns, and twenty postseason games together,
possessing three Super Bowl wins. They're given the numbers and
the eight they are. I mean, this is going to
carry on for a little while longer. I mean we
think about guys like Domnt Cannon, Jury Rice and how
they had that connection from Mahomes and Kelsey have really
taken it to another level. So you know, there's they're
(03:55):
really hard to stop and they've just got their unbelievable
connection between both of them year. All right.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So apart from those two and the incredible consistency that
you've talked about, what else is it about the Kansas
City Chiefs specifically this season that has been so impressive.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, for your listeners who have been following their progression
the season, they've achieved what we call They've won twelve
games by like one score, which is sort of unheard of.
So they just find a way to win. They know
how to sort of bring up the players in the
big moments, and one of the main people in their
(04:34):
coaching staff is a guy known as Spags or bag Nola.
He's their defensive coordinator, so he he's the only defensive
coordinator I think in NFL history is won for Super Bowl.
So he has a way of sort of lining up
their defense against teams, and especially more so against a
team like like Philadelphia have a really potent offense. So yeah,
(04:54):
their defense has really stepped up this the end sort
of kept them going. A lot of people have criticized
Kansas City because the offense hasn't been great, but you
know what, they still find a way to win and
that's what makes a champion team.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
All right, Well, there are two teams in Super Bowl,
so we should perhaps talk about the Philadelphia Eagles as well.
Are they capable of stopping this juggernaut that is the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah? Well, the NFC champions love had a really great
year and that's been based on the purchase and your
season of running back Saquon Barkley. So Barkley has really
been the difference for the team this year. Philadelphia have
some great wide receivers and a really good tight end
(05:39):
as well, but really Barkley has been the difference for
the team. I think he passed the magical what they
call two thousand Marc rushing for the He actually could
have broken the regular season record, but they decided to
rest him in the last game, so that was a
bit of a shame. But he only needs thirty more
yards to get the all season rushing record in the
(05:59):
Super Bowl, so I'm pretty sure he'll do that. But yeah,
Saquon Barkley has definitely been the difference for the Seagles.
Sorry for the for the Eagles this year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What about at quarterback Jalen Hurts. We're now about Patrick Mahomes.
How do you assess Jalen Hurt's ability to step up
for this big occasion?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, they hurt. We think about the Super Bowl from
two years ago, in Super Bowl fifty seven, he was
actually he actually played Mahomes in that game, but obviously
because they lost the game, he didn't get Super Bowl MVP,
but he could have if they had won. So he's
another good player who can do a lot of damage
from the pocket with his arm, but he's also another
(06:38):
threat on the ground. So besides Barkley, if we look
at the championship game when they beat Washington, he ran
for three touchdown scores as well as Barkley, So he's
a threat from the pocket and also with his legs
as well. So that gives Philadelfia a lot more options
in terms of their offense as well.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Both great offenses, though, Leon, so who has the better defense?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know what? Panyer, I got to be honest that
this could be like on the toss of a coin,
because they're both so good. We look at Kansas City,
they have a future Hall of Fame and Chris Jones,
who he's considered the business position as a defensive tackle,
so he gets after the quarterback and quite often he's
one of those guys that has to be double teams
(07:23):
as well. Philadelphia have some guys there in the offensive
line you can cause a lot of havoc as well.
So it's really hard. It's going to be hard to
pick the winner because it's so close and evenly matching.
If we look at the current odds, both teams are
pretty even. I think Kansas City are like a point
and a half favorite, which isn't a lot when you
think about it. But yeah, it's going to be really close.
(07:44):
It's going to be a hard one to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Pick, yeah, indeed, so and that I won't ask you
to make a pick, but I will ask you what
will decide it? What is it likely to be a
one score game? Will it be decided on a moment
of inspiration by one of the two quarterbacks? How do
you see this one being decided tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I think if you look at Kansas City the
head coach, and you read his nickname, Big Red, that's
his nickname. But he's been in the situation many times before. Interestingly,
a lot of your calls are sorry, a lot of
your listeners may not know that Andy Reid actually has
the winning this record for both teams because he was
at Philadelphia for about twelve years and took them to
(08:24):
a Super Bowl. I think they won five AFC Championship
games as Bowl so and obviously with his success in
Kansas City, he's got that experience. So I think in
terms of that, you can't really replact experience. But in
saying that, I think the biggest factor in this game
will be whether Kansas City can shut down Philadelphia's running
(08:48):
game because Barkley is lethal. So often in games you'll
see like you might get three yards, five yard, ten yards,
seven yards, and then he'll just go off on a
sixty yard run. So they need to c I think
that's going to be the determining factor who's going to
win this game, that they need to shut down Barkley
if they can that down Philadelphia's options in terms of attack.
(09:09):
So I think really that's the biggest fact of a
lot of experts are talking about that if Kansas City
can somehow close down Barkley's running game, then Kansas City
could definitely threepeat.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Leon, You've given us great analysis, mate, Thanks so much
for joining us. Really really pleased that you could do so.
Enjoy the game tomorrow. I know you're a Chiefs fan,
so you'll be able to now that you've given us
the very objective analysis. You get your Kansas City chiefscare
on and hopefully cheer your boys home. Thanks so much
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Mate, No, thanks a lot, Poiney, thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, thanks for joining us. Lee on. Leon Busby one
of our regular contributors, and on the basis of what
we've just heard there, I think a regular contributor moving
forward as well. There you go. Super Bowl fifty nine tomorrow,
twelve thirty Kansas City Chiefs against the Philadelphia Eagles. Just
a point of clarification, I said an unprecedented three peat.
That is true as far as Super Bowls are concerned.
(10:00):
I've had a pointed out to me that the Green
Bay Pack has won three in a row, but that
was before Super Bowl was a thing. They won three
straight championships when it was determined by the regular season record,
that twice actually nineteen twenty nine through nineteen thirty one,
and also nineteen sixty five through nineteen sixty seven. But
no team has ever won three straight Super Bowls since
(10:21):
that came into being in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
He the biggest day on the American sporting calendar is
Super Bowl. Super Bowl fifty nine tomorrow underway at around
twelve thirty New Zealand time. The Kansas City Chiefs looking
for an unprecedented three Peet.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Wurston Gold, mahamesquens a super Bowl Esta Hurricane Jack Park.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Kansas City. And this was the Andy Reid Special and
the tame winning drive of the Holmes career. He's been
waiting for his one Super Bows, but he's never had
it in an overtime. He is the best, He is
the standard. You're Michael Jordan wins it again here, So
Kansas City up against the Philadelphia Eagles, who they beat
(00:54):
in the twenty twenty three Super Bowl. Now, regular listeners
to the show will have enjoyed, as I have, the
regular emailed thoughts of Leon in Melbourne, among other things,
a massive fan and not just that, completing a dissertation
as part of his university studies on the impact of
the transfer portal and name, image and likeness as an
(01:17):
abridgement between college and professional sports in North America specifically
the NFL and the NBA. So we thought let's get
Leon on to preview Super Bowl. Leon from Melbourne's with us,
Leon Busby to give him his full title. Thanks for
joining us, Leon, How are you mate?
Speaker 3 (01:33):
I'm great, Thanks, Jason, Thanks and Foremotes. Thanks for allowing
me to come on your show. You know, I know
you're an award winner. Then you're the top of the
totem pole, say to speak, but living here in Melbourne,
I I have to listen to a show and I
love your work.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Well, it's great to have you as part of the
show today because we, as I say, assume that you
would be right across this. So let's go team from team,
starting with the Kansas City Chiefs. They've made Super Bowl
five times in the last six, they've won the last two.
It's a faircely competitive sport. What has made the chief
so good for so long? And do you back them
(02:11):
to go three on the trot?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Yeah? So there's a number of reasons why the two
time defending champions are back to try and win an
unpresented in third straight Super Bowl. Why don't we start
with the guy? Heveryone plays under center for Kansas City
as Patrick Mahomes. So he's played in the seven straight
conference championship game since he became the starting quarterback for Casey,
which is unheard of. This will be a fifth Super Bowl,
(02:36):
having won three and lost one. The one he did lose,
he had most of them studying offensive lineout injured. So
and this is all before he's even ten three. So
Mahomes is a depth there, finding a way to lead
his team to a win, particularly in the moments in
a matter of the most part of his identity that
you can't replicate. His mahme. There's such a force in
football that a lot of people often just call him
(02:58):
number fifteen now, so even a lot of people are
calling them the goat and waiting.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
The Mahomes Travis Kelcey connection. Let's talk about that. Why
is that such an effective combination? And is it one
of the greatest we've ever seen?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yeah, so the chiefs of a well balanced offense with
their wide receivers and running backs, but yeah, it's Tidy
and Travis Kelcey. He's crucial to Kansas City's success. So
he forms a lethal passing past catching tandem with his quarterback,
among the very best in the NFL. Player fistory. So
I think it's something like the combined for seventeen and
(03:33):
forty five yard, nineteen touchdowns, and twenty postseason games together,
possessing three Super Bowl wins. They're given the numbers and
the eight they are. I mean, this is going to
carry on for a little while longer. I mean we
think about guys like Domnt Cannon, Jury Rice and how
they had that connection from Mahomes and Kelsey have really
taken it to another level. So you know, there's they're
(03:55):
really hard to stop and they've just got their unbelievable
connection between both of them year. All right.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
So apart from those two and the incredible consistency that
you've talked about, what else is it about the Kansas
City Chiefs specifically this season that has been so impressive.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, for your listeners who have been following their progression
the season, they've achieved what we call They've won twelve
games by like one score, which is sort of unheard of.
So they just find a way to win. They know
how to sort of bring up the players in the
big moments, and one of the main people in their
(04:34):
coaching staff is a guy known as Spags or bag Nola.
He's their defensive coordinator, so he he's the only defensive
coordinator I think in NFL history is won for Super Bowl.
So he has a way of sort of lining up
their defense against teams, and especially more so against a
team like like Philadelphia have a really potent offense. So yeah,
(04:54):
their defense has really stepped up this the end sort
of kept them going. A lot of people have criticized
Kansas City because the offense hasn't been great, but you
know what, they still find a way to win and
that's what makes a champion team.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
All right, Well, there are two teams in Super Bowl,
so we should perhaps talk about the Philadelphia Eagles as well.
Are they capable of stopping this juggernaut that is the
Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
Yeah? Well, the NFC champions love had a really great
year and that's been based on the purchase and your
season of running back Saquon Barkley. So Barkley has really
been the difference for the team this year. Philadelphia have
some great wide receivers and a really good tight end
(05:39):
as well, but really Barkley has been the difference for
the team. I think he passed the magical what they
call two thousand Marc rushing for the He actually could
have broken the regular season record, but they decided to
rest him in the last game, so that was a
bit of a shame. But he only needs thirty more
yards to get the all season rushing record in the
(05:59):
Super Bowl, so I'm pretty sure he'll do that. But yeah,
Saquon Barkley has definitely been the difference for the Seagles.
Sorry for the for the Eagles this year.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
What about at quarterback Jalen Hurts. We're now about Patrick Mahomes.
How do you assess Jalen Hurt's ability to step up
for this big occasion?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yes, they hurt. We think about the Super Bowl from
two years ago, in Super Bowl fifty seven, he was
actually he actually played Mahomes in that game, but obviously
because they lost the game, he didn't get Super Bowl MVP,
but he could have if they had won. So he's
another good player who can do a lot of damage
from the pocket with his arm, but he's also another
(06:38):
threat on the ground. So besides Barkley, if we look
at the championship game when they beat Washington, he ran
for three touchdown scores as well as Barkley, So he's
a threat from the pocket and also with his legs
as well. So that gives Philadelfia a lot more options
in terms of their offense as well.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Both great offenses, though, Leon, so who has the better defense?
Speaker 3 (07:02):
You know what? Panyer, I got to be honest that
this could be like on the toss of a coin,
because they're both so good. We look at Kansas City,
they have a future Hall of Fame and Chris Jones,
who he's considered the business position as a defensive tackle,
so he gets after the quarterback and quite often he's
one of those guys that has to be double teams
(07:23):
as well. Philadelphia have some guys there in the offensive
line you can cause a lot of havoc as well.
So it's really hard. It's going to be hard to
pick the winner because it's so close and evenly matching.
If we look at the current odds, both teams are
pretty even. I think Kansas City are like a point
and a half favorite, which isn't a lot when you
think about it. But yeah, it's going to be really close.
(07:44):
It's going to be a hard one to.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Pick, yeah, indeed, so and that I won't ask you
to make a pick, but I will ask you what
will decide it? What is it likely to be a
one score game? Will it be decided on a moment
of inspiration by one of the two quarterbacks? How do
you see this one being decided tomorrow?
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, I think if you look at Kansas City the
head coach, and you read his nickname, Big Red, that's
his nickname. But he's been in the situation many times before. Interestingly,
a lot of your calls are sorry, a lot of
your listeners may not know that Andy Reid actually has
the winning this record for both teams because he was
at Philadelphia for about twelve years and took them to
(08:24):
a Super Bowl. I think they won five AFC Championship
games as Bowl so and obviously with his success in
Kansas City, he's got that experience. So I think in
terms of that, you can't really replact experience. But in
saying that, I think the biggest factor in this game
will be whether Kansas City can shut down Philadelphia's running
(08:48):
game because Barkley is lethal. So often in games you'll
see like you might get three yards, five yard, ten yards,
seven yards, and then he'll just go off on a
sixty yard run. So they need to c I think
that's going to be the determining factor who's going to
win this game, that they need to shut down Barkley
if they can that down Philadelphia's options in terms of attack.
(09:09):
So I think really that's the biggest fact of a
lot of experts are talking about that if Kansas City
can somehow close down Barkley's running game, then Kansas City
could definitely threepeat.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Leon, You've given us great analysis, mate, Thanks so much
for joining us. Really really pleased that you could do so.
Enjoy the game tomorrow. I know you're a Chiefs fan,
so you'll be able to now that you've given us
the very objective analysis. You get your Kansas City chiefscare
on and hopefully cheer your boys home. Thanks so much
for joining us today.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
Mate, No, thanks a lot, Poiney, thank you for having
me on.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
No, thanks for joining us. Lee on. Leon Busby one
of our regular contributors, and on the basis of what
we've just heard there, I think a regular contributor moving
forward as well. There you go. Super Bowl fifty nine tomorrow,
twelve thirty Kansas City Chiefs against the Philadelphia Eagles. Just
a point of clarification, I said an unprecedented three peat.
That is true as far as Super Bowls are concerned.
(10:00):
I've had a pointed out to me that the Green
Bay Pack has won three in a row, but that
was before Super Bowl was a thing. They won three
straight championships when it was determined by the regular season record,
that twice actually nineteen twenty nine through nineteen thirty one,
and also nineteen sixty five through nineteen sixty seven. But
no team has ever won three straight Super Bowls since
(10:21):
that came into being in nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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