Sports-based betting continues to grow in popularity, but it comes with a share of problems for athletes and fans alike.
Tennis stars like James Watt and Monique Barry have opened up about the abuse they receive online - abuse they believe comes from bettors who had gambled on their matches.
Andree Froude from the Problem Gambling Foundation joined Elliott Smith to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB on.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News Talk ZIRB. Andre frud is an executive director of
the Problem Gambling Foundation. She joins us now on the program.
What's your reaction to a lot of these players that
we've heard from in the last week while Nique Bowry
and others as we heard on the program, Andre and
(00:34):
the abuse that they've been getting on social media.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That's really concerning and unfortunately that's one of the awful
things that happens. The more we see gambling becoming entrenched
in sports, you know, we see it have an effect
on the players, you know who go out there. They're
highly skilled individuals and you know they're doing what they
do best, they're playing their sport, and people sometimes forget
(00:59):
that gambling is gambling and that you're putting money on
something that is a risk and you don't know what
the outcome is going to be and that's the whole
nature of gambling. So yeah, it's unfortunate, that very unfortunate
that that sort of thing does go on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Has your organization heard of sports people? Does this increase
an increasing trend that's happening around the globe.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I've certainly heard of it before, and I think, you know,
sports betting is really growing in many countries and it
contributes to about forty five percent of the online gambling
market share, So yeah, it's enormous and it's growing. So
that sort of thing I imagine will continue. And also,
(01:42):
you know, we know that gambling does have an impact
on the integrity of sports sometimes with sports sports betting too.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Do you think more can be fixing that's right? Do
you think more can be done to protect and help
sports people? I guess people will say it's a betting problem,
but it's also a social media problem.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It is, absolutely and you know that's the thing with
social media. People can and go on to social media
and make these comments and it is really difficult for
the players who do get enormously impacted. I'm sure by this.
And you know, the more we see, as I said,
gambling being becoming entrenched in sports, the more we do
(02:23):
see the negative side of that coming through.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And how much has that increased in recent years around
sports betting, because it seems like there are so many
avenues now and so many different options to bet on
a moment in a sports match. Or a certain thing
to transpire, or an individual to do a certain actor.
It seems to be much more prevalent than perhaps ten
to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It absolutely is. And I'm of the age when I
could go to a rugby game and gambling didn't even feature,
don't even think about it. But now you know, it's
easy twenty four seven access, you know, and the value
we placed on sports raises the potential for gambling risk
and harm as well. So just with the growth all
the sort of side effects I guess of sports betting,
(03:11):
which is the risk to people with gambling harm and
the things that you've talked about this morning as well?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What is your organization see I'm not sure where they
have any sports people that have been a cop debuse
and come to you or not, But what's your organization
seeing on the level I guess of that increased increased
nature of sports betting.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, look, we're certainly seeing because we're seeing a lot
of aggressive advertising from the tab they're deliberately targeting eighteen
to twenty nine year olds with their app. We're seeing
a growth in young people presenting for help with gambling
harm and sports betting, and that will continue to grow,
and I think people need to understand that there is
(03:53):
a risk. And a study has shown that the rate
of harmful gambling among sports betters is higher than that
of the general gambling population, and young adults and youth,
particularly males, are at high risk for problems with sports betting.
And then you have things that you mentioned like live
and play betting, where you can bet on he'll score
the next try, for example, and that's really strongly associated
(04:17):
with harmful gambling as well. So people just need to
be aware of the risks. And I think with the
increase in advertising and the partnership the ta B has
with Endtame, now we're going to see a lot more
harm happening in future years.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Andre free with us from the Problem Gambling Foundation. Andre's
wondering your thoughts as well. There's a bill that would
basically direct all the online gambling sports gambling to THAB
and make outsider or offshore betting agencies are illegal to
bet their so all the betting that people there do
have to come via ta B. What's your view on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That, Well, look, in principle, we support that, but there
will be unintended consequences because obviously there will be situations
where people will get around that. But I think you know,
the TAB has a big responsibility. If they're going to
have have the market share and be in the privileged
position having a monopoly, then they need to increase their
(05:12):
consumer protections and make sure they've got really robust time
minimization things in place to protect New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's Andre Food from the Problem Gambling Foundation joining us
on News Talk ZEBB. Fascinating time. Look, I think that
the box has been opened very very hard to close
on sports building, but you'd like to think something can
be done around the social media abuse that those athletes
are copying. Interesting topic for short.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZEDB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks EDB on.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
News Talk ZIRB. Andre frud is an executive director of
the Problem Gambling Foundation. She joins us now on the program.
What's your reaction to a lot of these players that
we've heard from in the last week while Nique Bowry
and others as we heard on the program, Andre and
(00:34):
the abuse that they've been getting on social media.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
That's really concerning and unfortunately that's one of the awful
things that happens. The more we see gambling becoming entrenched
in sports, you know, we see it have an effect
on the players, you know who go out there. They're
highly skilled individuals and you know they're doing what they
do best, they're playing their sport, and people sometimes forget
(00:59):
that gambling is gambling and that you're putting money on
something that is a risk and you don't know what
the outcome is going to be and that's the whole
nature of gambling. So yeah, it's unfortunate, that very unfortunate
that that sort of thing does go on.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Has your organization heard of sports people? Does this increase
an increasing trend that's happening around the globe.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
I've certainly heard of it before, and I think, you know,
sports betting is really growing in many countries and it
contributes to about forty five percent of the online gambling
market share, So yeah, it's enormous and it's growing. So
that sort of thing I imagine will continue. And also,
(01:42):
you know, we know that gambling does have an impact
on the integrity of sports sometimes with sports sports betting too.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Do you think more can be fixing that's right? Do
you think more can be done to protect and help
sports people? I guess people will say it's a betting problem,
but it's also a social media problem.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It is, absolutely and you know that's the thing with
social media. People can and go on to social media
and make these comments and it is really difficult for
the players who do get enormously impacted. I'm sure by this.
And you know, the more we see, as I said,
gambling being becoming entrenched in sports, the more we do
(02:23):
see the negative side of that coming through.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
And how much has that increased in recent years around
sports betting, because it seems like there are so many
avenues now and so many different options to bet on
a moment in a sports match. Or a certain thing
to transpire, or an individual to do a certain actor.
It seems to be much more prevalent than perhaps ten
to fifteen years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
It absolutely is. And I'm of the age when I
could go to a rugby game and gambling didn't even feature,
don't even think about it. But now you know, it's
easy twenty four seven access, you know, and the value
we placed on sports raises the potential for gambling risk
and harm as well. So just with the growth all
the sort of side effects I guess of sports betting,
(03:11):
which is the risk to people with gambling harm and
the things that you've talked about this morning as well?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
What is your organization see I'm not sure where they
have any sports people that have been a cop debuse
and come to you or not, But what's your organization
seeing on the level I guess of that increased increased
nature of sports betting.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Well, look, we're certainly seeing because we're seeing a lot
of aggressive advertising from the tab they're deliberately targeting eighteen
to twenty nine year olds with their app. We're seeing
a growth in young people presenting for help with gambling
harm and sports betting, and that will continue to grow,
and I think people need to understand that there is
(03:53):
a risk. And a study has shown that the rate
of harmful gambling among sports betters is higher than that
of the general gambling population, and young adults and youth,
particularly males, are at high risk for problems with sports betting.
And then you have things that you mentioned like live
and play betting, where you can bet on he'll score
the next try, for example, and that's really strongly associated
(04:17):
with harmful gambling as well. So people just need to
be aware of the risks. And I think with the
increase in advertising and the partnership the ta B has
with Endtame, now we're going to see a lot more
harm happening in future years.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Andre free with us from the Problem Gambling Foundation. Andre's
wondering your thoughts as well. There's a bill that would
basically direct all the online gambling sports gambling to THAB
and make outsider or offshore betting agencies are illegal to
bet their so all the betting that people there do
have to come via ta B. What's your view on.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That, Well, look, in principle, we support that, but there
will be unintended consequences because obviously there will be situations
where people will get around that. But I think you know,
the TAB has a big responsibility. If they're going to
have have the market share and be in the privileged
position having a monopoly, then they need to increase their
(05:12):
consumer protections and make sure they've got really robust time
minimization things in place to protect New Zealanders.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
That's Andre Food from the Problem Gambling Foundation joining us
on News Talk ZEBB. Fascinating time. Look, I think that
the box has been opened very very hard to close
on sports building, but you'd like to think something can
be done around the social media abuse that those athletes
are copying. Interesting topic for short.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk ZEDB weekends from midday, or follow the
podcast on iHeartRadio
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