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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
On News Talk zb WEE can Sport continue Wing time
now as we do this time on a Sunday afternoon
to catch up with James mcconey Out of Sky the
ACC the twenty twenty three Rugby World Cup commentary with
me Various Pursuits James, good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Oh what a CV. Thanks for adding to it. Elliott's Yeah,
good afternoon and great to be back on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
How good was the opening round of Super Rugby?
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Quill incredible? I mean, this is the best advertisement is
having absolute humdingers for games, and there were there were
ding dongs, there were barn burners, there were there were
last minute you know, nail biss the works, so whatever
cliche you want to put on the game. They had
it all. But crucially they were close. There were no blowouts,
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and I think that's really a testament to teams just
basically building and also getting rid of the rebels. You know,
the Australian talent has spread now.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Which was I think everyone's been hammering away for a
few years. If you get rid of a team, the
talent will have to spread out you'll get better teams
out of it. We've been banging on have finally done it.
Credit to Phil Warren, Rugby Australia and instant improvement.
Speaker 3 (01:25):
Yes, and I mean look the warrorta that was a
heartbreaker for the Islanders last minute. Try to I think
it's a CSFA, a morney, a prop who scored two
tries off the bench. And the bench is a big
talking point as well, because if you go fast forward
to the Chiefs game against the Blues, well they had
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a loaded bench and Roger Randall actually explained before the game.
He said, well, the All Blacks aren't starting because they
haven't been with us that long, so we've got all
these plans and systems and it's just too much information
for them to take in. So that's why they're coming
off the bench. And man, it worked a treat. That
was an incredible win in the drizzle at Eden Park
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last night.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
And I speaking to you yesterday, you weren't overly confident
that the Chiefs are going to be able to get
the job done.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, I wasn't, but then I guess if I was
the One thing I was confident about was the debt
that the Chiefs had and I think that's what gave
them the win. The Blues have definitely got what you
call title winning hangover, and also maybe they realized that
there's a time of the year to peak and it's
not February, right, so and missing Hoskins Stucco that I
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think that's a big loss, and possibly just trying to
bet in what to do with their teen to fifteen
combo because they had Plumber and Boden Barrett as their
first five and fullback last night. They could end up
with Petefeta and Sullivan at some point and there'd be
no loss in quality really because those guys are sort
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of at their point in their careers. With our peaking, as.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
You mentioned, the Chiefs being able to bring off that
bench last like they probably won't be able to do
it for the entire season. But having Leonard Brown and
Tupo Vying and Female and others come on for twenty
minute twenty five minute burst and the back end of
the game certainly made a big difference. At the back end,
with you that fatigue early season fatigue sitting in and
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Mackenzie moving back into ten, I thought was a big
change lad in the fixture.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, McKenzie just looked magnificent, didn't he. I think he's
just one of those players who can turn it on
and at certain times, and he'll probably be disappointed with
things like that happened in the French Test, but that's
the only blemish of that Northern Tour for him. So
coming out there and just owning the game, being the
match winner with those two tries, I think another assist
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or a sort of an assist of an assist. He
was at the forefront of everything they did well in
that second half. I just you know, like when it
comes to teens and I's lots to talk about Richard Wonger,
and he's probably delaying coming back because he's looked at
the Test matches last year and thought, well, I can
probably still come back and and be okay. But if
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mackenzie keeps playing like that, then maybe Richie will try
and hasten his return because it it won't be a
walk in the scenario mackenzie keeps playing like that.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Indeed, was there a better story over the weekend than
Kyle Priston for the Crusaders on Friday night?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
That is incredible? Is he a rufer something? Yeah, he's
a rufer. Yeah exactly, so he's got down, he's been
brought down to earth, but he's even better on the ground. Look,
I mean having those three tries. He came on early
for Noah hooe from seventy one minutes of rugby. Probably
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wasn't expecting it. He's done all his rugby training and
in the Wellington nursery really, but then realized there was
he was sort of blocked by Canroy guards. So maybe
been se his chances down at the Crusaders and it's
you know, it'll be great to see him get some
time now because I guess the spring then called No.
I hope it might take some time, who knows. But
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that was really cool. And I thought the other thing
about that game was a bit like the you know,
the eighties movie The Breakfast Club and the song at
the end, don't you forget about me? Just watching Carl
and Grace and Ethan Blackadder and all these guys, he
still to have to go, oh that's right. Even David
HARVELI you used to go, yeah, those guys are really good,
aren't they. And that's what they showed. And Severn Reese
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is just that super rugby level is such a weapon
that you know. He had his say too with a
try and a freakish caesar and kick assist.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
He certainly did one thing. I did want to get
your thoughts on as well, Artie sa Vigo and Mwana Pacifica.
They'll be guided with that, but I think we saw
the immediate left that apply like Artie can bring to
Mawana Pacifica.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I mean Artie was immense in that game. I think
like there's there's only so much you can do in
thirty four degree heats in Perth, and he did as
much as he can. It's such another heartbreaker watching Ben Donaldson,
who has got wheels sneakily he's wallabies first five, will
reserve Wallaby's first five, scoring a fifty sixty meter try
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right at the death. So I looked at what Ardie's doing.
He is providing just the ultimate and leadership direction. The
team looks so much stronger. There are other standouts as well,
but really Artie is going to be the glue who's
going to be everything to them in that sense. And
also nice to see players, you know, just evolving a bit.
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There was Miracle Fire Lung. He looks like he's put
on about fifteen kilos. But then same with Jackson Garden Baship.
I must ever talked to him as a fuller figured
first five myself. Elliott, you know you do have to
and it's always tough squeezing into that number ten.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Jersey certainly indeed. Yeah, it's fascinating. I'm putting round of
Super Rugby. It was James mcconie. Thank you very much
for your time, as was on a Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
Cheers Elliott, take you mate.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
That is James McCarney joining us on a Sunday as
he always does here on Weekend Sport.
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