June 7, 2025 • 7 mins
A mixed opening day for the Black Foils at the latest SailGP event in New York.
New Zealand finished second, 11th and first in the opening three regattas, to sit fourth in the event standings ahead of tomorrow's second race day.
Black Foils strategist Liv Mackay joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B Racing at the latest su
GP event in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Are you now thinking terminated race and just get ourselves
as far as we can and to get the closest
spot we can.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh, we are.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Flatfoils are just brought it home the Amarus wedding moment.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That Todd for the Blatfoils, so they managed to save
a day.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They'll be loving that.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I could assure you, there's nothing that you can enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, talk about sneaking up on you. The moment sneaks
up on us as we had no idea. Well I didn't,
at least New Zealand had one more turn to make.
But they bring it home and they get the win.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, that's New Zealand winning the third and final fleet
race on day one after they were second and eleventh
and the first two races. So the Black Falls are
fourth on the table, but just one point separating second
from fourth and three more fleet races tomorrow before the
top three go into the final Black Foils. Strategist Live
Mackay's with us Levi in general terms, First of all,
(01:02):
how do you assess the opening day on the Hudson River.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yes, well, as you nicely worded there, it was definitely
a mixed bag today. I mean that eleventh place was
you know, really hindered us in the points, but very
glad to come away with the win and the last
one and the second in that first one, it was
a super challenging day out there. They were you know,
(01:28):
they brought the racing forward to you know, try and
get a hit of the storms that we ended up
having this afternoon. But it was definitely made for some
really challenging racing and some insane fans that endured some
heavy rain out there.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So okay, yeah, because that's I think most of us. Well,
I know, I did work up this morning thinking racing
was going to start at seven thirty our time, and
all of a sudden, I look and it's all done.
So so a storm rolled in. That's why they brought
everything forward.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes, obviously a very hard call to make because it
is not what you know, they want for fans and
everything is bringing the schedule forwards not a very usual
thing in sport. But we've had, you know, as a league,
serious issues with under storms in the past, so they're
just trying to mitigate that risk there, and there was
(02:25):
big threats of storms this afternoon in the area, so
they want to make sure everyone's safe, and so they
ended up bringing it forward, which all in all worked
out quite well with the wind because as soon as
that we finished racing, it actually fully died out, so
hopefully it made some good rewatching. But yes, I think
it's through a spanner in the works for everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, race three, you finished on a high for the
first time in sol GP racing history. You lapped the
entire fleet. Can you talk us through Race three?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Well, it's pretty far on for me in those conditions. Actually,
I ended up grinding, so they take the two big
guys off at the front and I ended up quite
hid down, which is it's quite funny, but I didn't
really know, to be honest, that we'd lapped everyone until
quite well after the race. I think in those conditions
(03:22):
we're always just looking for wind and focusing on on
where there's clear air and how we can keep foiling.
But yeah, it's pretty I'm about to rewatch the racing
now and pretty excited to look back on it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We need to take sure, we need to get your
grinding more off with it. It's clearly the secret, the
secret to lapping the field.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, we'll see about that. It was definitely I wouldn't
say it was all luck out there, but it was
you know you did on days like today, you need
a bit of luck, and yeah, obviously got a bit
of it in that race.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And what happened in race two? Was it just a
poor race all round? Was there an air and near
the start? What happened in race two?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, a mix. It's so we're racing in the Hudson here,
which is, you know, a river, and with that comes
huge tidal flows. So I'm not sure of what you
can and can't see on the broadcast, but we're basically,
you know, motoring with our chase boat is nearly as
fast as we can trying to go against the tide.
(04:25):
Then we get released and come into the start box.
But because it's the wind is so up and down
and it's really hard to forecast and kind of see
that kind of throws the whole start box is not
a lucky dip, but it's a lot more random, i'd
say than we're used to. So we just got on
(04:47):
the back foot there a bit, and then that just
accumulated throughout the race. We did have a lot of
opportunities to come back, but yeah, unfortunately didn't capitalize on them.
So it's something we'll review tonight and yeah, hopefully build
on for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And we've heard a lot over the last couple of
regattas or last two or three think it is about
the new T foils, But were you back on the
L foils, the previous foils for this one.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, yeah, so it's yeah, it's been a bit like
riding a bike for most of the fleet, to be honest.
We are waiting on the new lightier tfoils, which should
come online later in the season. But yes, the forecast
(05:34):
for this weekend was to be super light and very variable,
very unknown, so they decided to go with the OL foils,
which basically just have a bigger surface area across them,
which helps to give more lift to the boats, so
a higher chance of foiling in lighter air. So they
(05:56):
really want to you know, get obviously the boats up
and foiling for you know, some great racing. And that's
where they thought was, you know, the best decision for
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And it's been a while and you've been racing hasn't it,
you know, with an unscheduled break. I think the last
time you raced was in March. How much did you
enjoy actually being back out there competing.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely been a while between drinks,
that's for sure, but it's I mean it almost feels
like no time has passed once we're back on the water.
I think as a team, we really love New York,
so everyone was really excited to get back here, and
we've been doing a lot of work between events as
(06:40):
a team. We've done actually a lot of you know,
mental skills side of stuff, which has been really interesting.
So it's been quite a big break, but it's also
given us opportunities to you know, look into new areas
and experience different things as a team, which will hopefully
make us stronger in the long run.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Always enjoy chatting with you live. Thanks for making yourself available.
All the best on day two. I appreciate you joining
us this after.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
No all good, thank you for having me, No, thank.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You for joining us. Love Love Mackay strategist on the
Black Foils and grind up on sounds of things this
morning on the Arts and River, So New Zealander fourth,
but just one point between fourth and second. Three more
Fleet races, and then the top three go into the finals.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B Racing at the latest su
GP event in New York.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Are you now thinking terminated race and just get ourselves
as far as we can and to get the closest
spot we can.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Oh, we are.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
The Flatfoils are just brought it home the Amarus wedding moment.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
That Todd for the Blatfoils, so they managed to save
a day.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
They'll be loving that.
Speaker 4 (00:28):
I could assure you, there's nothing that you can enjoy.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Well, talk about sneaking up on you. The moment sneaks
up on us as we had no idea. Well I didn't,
at least New Zealand had one more turn to make.
But they bring it home and they get the win.
Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, that's New Zealand winning the third and final fleet
race on day one after they were second and eleventh
and the first two races. So the Black Falls are
fourth on the table, but just one point separating second
from fourth and three more fleet races tomorrow before the
top three go into the final Black Foils. Strategist Live
Mackay's with us Levi in general terms, First of all,
(01:02):
how do you assess the opening day on the Hudson River.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Yes, well, as you nicely worded there, it was definitely
a mixed bag today. I mean that eleventh place was
you know, really hindered us in the points, but very
glad to come away with the win and the last
one and the second in that first one, it was
a super challenging day out there. They were you know,
(01:28):
they brought the racing forward to you know, try and
get a hit of the storms that we ended up
having this afternoon. But it was definitely made for some
really challenging racing and some insane fans that endured some
heavy rain out there.
Speaker 3 (01:46):
So okay, yeah, because that's I think most of us. Well,
I know, I did work up this morning thinking racing
was going to start at seven thirty our time, and
all of a sudden, I look and it's all done.
So so a storm rolled in. That's why they brought
everything forward.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yes, obviously a very hard call to make because it
is not what you know, they want for fans and
everything is bringing the schedule forwards not a very usual
thing in sport. But we've had, you know, as a league,
serious issues with under storms in the past, so they're
just trying to mitigate that risk there, and there was
(02:25):
big threats of storms this afternoon in the area, so
they want to make sure everyone's safe, and so they
ended up bringing it forward, which all in all worked
out quite well with the wind because as soon as
that we finished racing, it actually fully died out, so
hopefully it made some good rewatching. But yes, I think
it's through a spanner in the works for everyone.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Well, race three, you finished on a high for the
first time in sol GP racing history. You lapped the
entire fleet. Can you talk us through Race three?
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Well, it's pretty far on for me in those conditions. Actually,
I ended up grinding, so they take the two big
guys off at the front and I ended up quite
hid down, which is it's quite funny, but I didn't
really know, to be honest, that we'd lapped everyone until
quite well after the race. I think in those conditions
(03:22):
we're always just looking for wind and focusing on on
where there's clear air and how we can keep foiling.
But yeah, it's pretty I'm about to rewatch the racing
now and pretty excited to look back on it.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
We need to take sure, we need to get your
grinding more off with it. It's clearly the secret, the
secret to lapping the field.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yeah, we'll see about that. It was definitely I wouldn't
say it was all luck out there, but it was
you know you did on days like today, you need
a bit of luck, and yeah, obviously got a bit
of it in that race.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
And what happened in race two? Was it just a
poor race all round? Was there an air and near
the start? What happened in race two?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah, a mix. It's so we're racing in the Hudson here,
which is, you know, a river, and with that comes
huge tidal flows. So I'm not sure of what you
can and can't see on the broadcast, but we're basically,
you know, motoring with our chase boat is nearly as
fast as we can trying to go against the tide.
(04:25):
Then we get released and come into the start box.
But because it's the wind is so up and down
and it's really hard to forecast and kind of see
that kind of throws the whole start box is not
a lucky dip, but it's a lot more random, i'd
say than we're used to. So we just got on
(04:47):
the back foot there a bit, and then that just
accumulated throughout the race. We did have a lot of
opportunities to come back, but yeah, unfortunately didn't capitalize on them.
So it's something we'll review tonight and yeah, hopefully build
on for tomorrow.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And we've heard a lot over the last couple of
regattas or last two or three think it is about
the new T foils, But were you back on the
L foils, the previous foils for this one.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
Yes, yeah, so it's yeah, it's been a bit like
riding a bike for most of the fleet, to be honest.
We are waiting on the new lightier tfoils, which should
come online later in the season. But yes, the forecast
(05:34):
for this weekend was to be super light and very variable,
very unknown, so they decided to go with the OL foils,
which basically just have a bigger surface area across them,
which helps to give more lift to the boats, so
a higher chance of foiling in lighter air. So they
(05:56):
really want to you know, get obviously the boats up
and foiling for you know, some great racing. And that's
where they thought was, you know, the best decision for
this weekend.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And it's been a while and you've been racing hasn't it,
you know, with an unscheduled break. I think the last
time you raced was in March. How much did you
enjoy actually being back out there competing.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
Yeah, I mean it's definitely been a while between drinks,
that's for sure, but it's I mean it almost feels
like no time has passed once we're back on the water.
I think as a team, we really love New York,
so everyone was really excited to get back here, and
we've been doing a lot of work between events as
(06:40):
a team. We've done actually a lot of you know,
mental skills side of stuff, which has been really interesting.
So it's been quite a big break, but it's also
given us opportunities to you know, look into new areas
and experience different things as a team, which will hopefully
make us stronger in the long run.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
Always enjoy chatting with you live. Thanks for making yourself available.
All the best on day two. I appreciate you joining
us this after.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
No all good, thank you for having me, No, thank.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
You for joining us. Love Love Mackay strategist on the
Black Foils and grind up on sounds of things this
morning on the Arts and River, So New Zealander fourth,
but just one point between fourth and second. Three more
Fleet races, and then the top three go into the finals.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk sed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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