June 21, 2025 • 6 mins
The most anticipated trans-Tasman boxing event of the year is set to take place in the coming weeks.
Paul Gallen and Sonny Bill Williams are set to meet in the headline bout of the Mānuka Phuel SBW v Gallen card, looking to put their long feud to rest over the course of eight two-minute rounds.
Paul Gallen joined Piney to discuss.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Eight of increasingly bitter verbal jousting. The biggest Trans Tasman
grudge match of all time is Finding in It at
the Boxing Ring powered by Minuca Fuel. Sunny Bill Williams
and Paul Gallant will finally meet in the boxing ring
at Kudos Bank Arena in Sydney on Wednesday July sixteen
from seven thirty New Zealand time, live and exclusive in
(00:35):
New Zealand on pay per view from Sky Arena and Skysport. Now,
let's bring in Paul Gallon, twenty sixteen NROL Premiership winner
with the Sharks, for who he played three hundred and
forty eight matches, New South Wales state of origin captain,
twenty thirteen Rugby League World Cup winner with the Kangaroos
and three time Dally M Locke of the Year and
(00:57):
sunny Bill Williams opponent on July sixteen, Paul, Welcome to
the show. Why has this taken so long?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I have to ask, Yeah, you can Patriot Senning Bill
Williams the cow that he didn't want to go near me,
So that's pretty much the reason mate, there's now there's
no other reason for it. It's been spoken about for
a long time. I think early on in the piece
it was sort of never really going to happen, but
so certainly from two thousands of the eighty nineteen twenty one, Yeah,
he did, you want to borrow me?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You haven't been in the ring for what three years?
Was this the only fight you'd come back for?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah? Definitely one had forty three years out on forty
four after after this fight, a month after the fight,
and it's been the last time I come back for.
I told it was all back there. I said, they
everyone back in twenty and twenty one. Publicly something's waiting
for me to get too old, which is exactly what
he's done. But you know what, I think I've got
enough left in me to get the job done.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Why didn't you turn up to the fight announcement press conference?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Because it made it go bigger than what it would
have been. It would have turned up and it would
have caught him a count for only fight two minute
rounds and would have been the same old who are
But you know I didn't turn up and then made
it go hold I did. Today boxing is about plays
exposure and creating a bit of hype, and that's what it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did the two minute rounds. How does first of all,
you're obviously not a fan of it, but how does
it change your fight strategy?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Just through tam Man. I mean, he's a big guy.
He's a powerful afelete. We understand that, and power runs
out pretty quickly in combat sports. And then it's longer
than me. He's tall than me. He just wants to
keep me, arrange be how to hold me when I
come insude, which also need a lot to hold intentionally
in boxing years. So he's just he's just put the
(02:37):
chips in his favor and try to stack everything in favor.
But as I said, man, by the end of the fight,
I'll get hold of him and I'll win.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He has made suggestions that you're using performance enhancing drugs.
What is your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, it's just a ridiculous man. It's it's him to
look at for exist. I thought, it is what what
is it?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, how much does that hurt them when you
hear comments like that from him?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Look, at the end of the day, I think you
had a respect well the person that's saying it, And
I don't respect him. He's an idiot. Honestly, he's an
absolute dope. I've got no respect for him as enemy.
So to be able to listen to things from a
person who don't respect it from a person they like,
it's water products back on. So he has no my life. Yeah,
(03:26):
I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He's been training with Ossie Cruz White world champion Jai Opataia,
who I know. You know, Well, do you think he's
going to try and fight like Gay does?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well? Look, I think at the end of the day
he's tally dremmy, which you can. I mean, I spy
a joy beside before he went to school fifteen years
ago when he was sixteen seventeen years of age to
drive down and spy me and Corey Patterson, a couple
of footy players before school. And Blake's been training his
whole life to be a fighter. And he thinks something
things on six or seven weeks training camp with Joe,
(03:56):
you a rat to fight like Gia. I find the laughable.
It just got to Shaw insecureus. And he's the type
of person I need to have people around him and
tell him everything's going to be okay, and and telling
me he's doing well, like every day boxes sports. I
can't get in there and fight for him, cap up
a tie, can't get in there and fight for him. Yeah,
it's another example of insecurity. Sonny has a bed himself.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
How is your training for the fight going?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Gods? All right? Made? You know? I think when you
get to in your forties things a little bit harder,
but you know that's that's just life. I'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How much have you had to alter things now that
you're you're getting a.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Bit older, So yeah, we've got to pull back a
little bit. Came from trainings intense as you once did
that for sure, but yeah, okay for a sort of
chick and do a little routine that we're good going
and things aren't okay?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Will this be your last hour?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The last time?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And doubt a forty four one month after the fight,
Sunny's Sonny's done, Welder, It's a way until I've got
past my best. I've sat there front many times. Have
you that that's what he's waiting to do? And yeh,
he's done that. But I still think I've got enough
left in me to beat his play?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Is this all real? You talk about?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Hype and boxing has always been about that. But but
there is this genuine dislike for him on your part.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I've got absolutely their respect for this plate. There's nothing
about him, if at all, nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But god on New South Wales. Couldn't get the job
done in Origin too, mate.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, no, they scored more tries in the position and
we're beaten. That's not a good way to go down. Obviously,
goal kicking was issue for them, has been in the
first two games. But then the right to get a
decider and bring it down the citny because they won
that first game. So I think then they said just play,
play the way they can play, and probably living on
a discipline in the first half, they win the match.
(05:41):
I think they get the job done.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
All right, We'll just back to the fight finally, a
lot of a lot of punters on the side of
the gitch. You'll be signing up for pay per view.
What are we going to see on July sixteenth?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think by then the fight. I catch up with
him now. He's obviously gone the shorter rounds of two
min the rounds because it suits him and he wants
to keep me at bay, keep me away from him
with his length, and when I get closer, probably I
tie me up. But at the end of the day,
this is boxing all that intentionally hold her, intentionally tie up.
So hopefully the referees under that and yeah, I think
by the end for final knock him out.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
All the best to you, Paul, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Mate, Thanks mate South.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Paul Gallon up against Sunny Bill Williams Kudos Bank Arena, Sydney,
July sixteenth, seven thirty New Zealand Time powered by Men
You Could Feel. Get it live and exclusive in New
Zealand on pay per view from sky Arena Skysport Now. No,
not a lot of gray area there from Paul Gallon
the way he feels about side Pil Williams.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Eight of increasingly bitter verbal jousting. The biggest Trans Tasman
grudge match of all time is Finding in It at
the Boxing Ring powered by Minuca Fuel. Sunny Bill Williams
and Paul Gallant will finally meet in the boxing ring
at Kudos Bank Arena in Sydney on Wednesday July sixteen
from seven thirty New Zealand time, live and exclusive in
(00:35):
New Zealand on pay per view from Sky Arena and Skysport. Now,
let's bring in Paul Gallon, twenty sixteen NROL Premiership winner
with the Sharks, for who he played three hundred and
forty eight matches, New South Wales state of origin captain,
twenty thirteen Rugby League World Cup winner with the Kangaroos
and three time Dally M Locke of the Year and
(00:57):
sunny Bill Williams opponent on July sixteen, Paul, Welcome to
the show. Why has this taken so long?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
I have to ask, Yeah, you can Patriot Senning Bill
Williams the cow that he didn't want to go near me,
So that's pretty much the reason mate, there's now there's
no other reason for it. It's been spoken about for
a long time. I think early on in the piece
it was sort of never really going to happen, but
so certainly from two thousands of the eighty nineteen twenty one, Yeah,
he did, you want to borrow me?
Speaker 2 (01:24):
You haven't been in the ring for what three years?
Was this the only fight you'd come back for?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yeah? Definitely one had forty three years out on forty
four after after this fight, a month after the fight,
and it's been the last time I come back for.
I told it was all back there. I said, they
everyone back in twenty and twenty one. Publicly something's waiting
for me to get too old, which is exactly what
he's done. But you know what, I think I've got
enough left in me to get the job done.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Why didn't you turn up to the fight announcement press conference?
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Because it made it go bigger than what it would
have been. It would have turned up and it would
have caught him a count for only fight two minute
rounds and would have been the same old who are
But you know I didn't turn up and then made
it go hold I did. Today boxing is about plays
exposure and creating a bit of hype, and that's what it.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Did the two minute rounds. How does first of all,
you're obviously not a fan of it, but how does
it change your fight strategy?
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Just through tam Man. I mean, he's a big guy.
He's a powerful afelete. We understand that, and power runs
out pretty quickly in combat sports. And then it's longer
than me. He's tall than me. He just wants to
keep me, arrange be how to hold me when I
come insude, which also need a lot to hold intentionally
in boxing years. So he's just he's just put the
(02:37):
chips in his favor and try to stack everything in favor.
But as I said, man, by the end of the fight,
I'll get hold of him and I'll win.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
He has made suggestions that you're using performance enhancing drugs.
What is your response to that.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, it's just a ridiculous man. It's it's him to
look at for exist. I thought, it is what what
is it?
Speaker 2 (02:59):
I mean, how much does that hurt them when you
hear comments like that from him?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Look, at the end of the day, I think you
had a respect well the person that's saying it, And
I don't respect him. He's an idiot. Honestly, he's an
absolute dope. I've got no respect for him as enemy.
So to be able to listen to things from a
person who don't respect it from a person they like,
it's water products back on. So he has no my life. Yeah,
(03:26):
I don't like him.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
He's been training with Ossie Cruz White world champion Jai Opataia,
who I know. You know, Well, do you think he's
going to try and fight like Gay does?
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Well? Look, I think at the end of the day
he's tally dremmy, which you can. I mean, I spy
a joy beside before he went to school fifteen years
ago when he was sixteen seventeen years of age to
drive down and spy me and Corey Patterson, a couple
of footy players before school. And Blake's been training his
whole life to be a fighter. And he thinks something
things on six or seven weeks training camp with Joe,
(03:56):
you a rat to fight like Gia. I find the laughable.
It just got to Shaw insecureus. And he's the type
of person I need to have people around him and
tell him everything's going to be okay, and and telling
me he's doing well, like every day boxes sports. I
can't get in there and fight for him, cap up
a tie, can't get in there and fight for him. Yeah,
it's another example of insecurity. Sonny has a bed himself.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
How is your training for the fight going?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Gods? All right? Made? You know? I think when you
get to in your forties things a little bit harder,
but you know that's that's just life. I'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
How much have you had to alter things now that
you're you're getting a.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Bit older, So yeah, we've got to pull back a
little bit. Came from trainings intense as you once did
that for sure, but yeah, okay for a sort of
chick and do a little routine that we're good going
and things aren't okay?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Will this be your last hour?
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Paul?
Speaker 2 (04:44):
The last time?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
And doubt a forty four one month after the fight,
Sunny's Sonny's done, Welder, It's a way until I've got
past my best. I've sat there front many times. Have
you that that's what he's waiting to do? And yeh,
he's done that. But I still think I've got enough
left in me to beat his play?
Speaker 2 (05:02):
Is this all real? You talk about?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
You know?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Hype and boxing has always been about that. But but
there is this genuine dislike for him on your part.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
I've got absolutely their respect for this plate. There's nothing
about him, if at all, nothing.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
But god on New South Wales. Couldn't get the job
done in Origin too, mate.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yeah, no, they scored more tries in the position and
we're beaten. That's not a good way to go down. Obviously,
goal kicking was issue for them, has been in the
first two games. But then the right to get a
decider and bring it down the citny because they won
that first game. So I think then they said just play,
play the way they can play, and probably living on
a discipline in the first half, they win the match.
(05:41):
I think they get the job done.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
All right, We'll just back to the fight finally, a
lot of a lot of punters on the side of
the gitch. You'll be signing up for pay per view.
What are we going to see on July sixteenth?
Speaker 3 (05:52):
I think by then the fight. I catch up with
him now. He's obviously gone the shorter rounds of two
min the rounds because it suits him and he wants
to keep me at bay, keep me away from him
with his length, and when I get closer, probably I
tie me up. But at the end of the day,
this is boxing all that intentionally hold her, intentionally tie up.
So hopefully the referees under that and yeah, I think
by the end for final knock him out.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
All the best to you, Paul, thanks for joining us.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Mate, Thanks mate South.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Paul Gallon up against Sunny Bill Williams Kudos Bank Arena, Sydney,
July sixteenth, seven thirty New Zealand Time powered by Men
You Could Feel. Get it live and exclusive in New
Zealand on pay per view from sky Arena Skysport Now. No,
not a lot of gray area there from Paul Gallon
the way he feels about side Pil Williams.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talk said B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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