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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks ed B number.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
One male golfer, currently ranked thirty seventh in the world,
and this year two time went up on the PGA Tour.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Back to three Wood all over it.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
Oh wow, now we're talking.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
What a beautiful shy.
Speaker 5 (00:34):
Two potts for a second PGA Tour win and you'll
take them the fantastic mister Fox is the King of Canada.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
The King of Canada indeed, and joining us at the
Kingsland of Ryan Fox. Great to see you, mate, I'll
just turn you on, mate, we go. Nice to see
you you too, well. I mean it feels like an
All Blacks tearestay, doesn't it. You still follow the All
Blacks closely from wherever you are around the world.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I certainly do. It's a little hard to watch it
in the US.
Speaker 6 (01:09):
Time differences don't quite work out as well as I'd hope,
and they still haven't quite worked out what rugby is
in the mainstream over there, so they probably need to
do some research on streaming. But yeah, I follow it,
I love it, and ye're looking forward to this afternoon.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
You were born in nineteen eighty seven, so just a
few months before your dad guided the All Blacks to
Rugby World Cup glory in eighty seven.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Were you aware?
Speaker 2 (01:37):
When did you become aware of your father as a
rugby player, not just your dad.
Speaker 6 (01:44):
He retired when I was six, so I probably didn't
quite grasp the concept.
Speaker 4 (01:49):
While he was still playing.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I remember a couple of couple of games of him playing,
but I more remember, you know, running around the aftermatch function,
you know, kicking balls on the field after the game
when you were allowed to do that.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
That The only thing I really remember is.
Speaker 6 (02:05):
Him kicking a goal again to the Lions in ninety three,
which I think was for Auckland, and I remember to
win the game, but I subsequently told it was like
twenty minutes to go or whatever. But that's what a
six year old brain remembers. But yeah, I sort of
as I got older, I appreciated it more. Obviously, I
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understood a bit more, and you know, he was getting
stopped in the street and all of that, and you know,
watched a few of the old games.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
And was like, oh yeah, actually, yeah, dad was pretty good.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Understatement, So how seriously did you play be growing up?
Speaker 4 (02:41):
I was the whole way through school.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I played first fifteen at Kings in seventh form. Probably
had a few too many concussions to carry on, but yeah,
I loved it.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
I wasn't I didn't help myself.
Speaker 6 (02:55):
I played ten and I kept goals as well, so
there was only going to be one comparison there and
I was never going to live up to that.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
The only thing I had on the old man is
I wasn't afraid of tackling.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
I'm sure that's something you've reminded him of in the
years since.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
And of course your mum's.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Dad, MERV Wallace, captain New Zealand's and cricket as well,
and was an absolutely brilliant batsman, so you would have
been a decent cricketer as well.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yep.
Speaker 6 (03:18):
I played cricket all the way through school too. I
played a year of club cricket after I left school
and didn't enjoy that as much as school cricket. And
that's when I tried tournament golf. I played off two
at that point, you know, so I was a decent golfer,
but you know, never took it seriously. And when I
was doing a lawd of Great Auckland UNI and gave
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up cricketer Ugben thought I need something competitive.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
What am I going to do? I was like, oh,
I've played a couple of junior tournaments. I liked those.
Let's give that a crack and that was me done.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
What a year it's been for you, mate, those two
PGA Tour wins. I've heard you say a couple of
times that you knew your best golf across a given
weekend was good enough to beat the best golfers in
the world.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Is that what happened at least twice this year?
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:02):
I mean, obviously, Myrtle Beachs was an alternate event, so
it wasn't the best of the best playing, but there's
still some really good players. But you know, Canada is
as a.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Pretty prestigious event. You know, Rory was playing that week.
Speaker 6 (04:16):
There was a few other a few other guys playing
this week in the Ryder Cup that were playing, so yeah,
it was that one was extra special.
Speaker 4 (04:24):
You know that getting the.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
First one was was amazing and if that was the
only one, great, but Canada was just that little bit better.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
And obviously you know, getting it done in the playoff
and everything, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
It was great and you know, nice to get to
that point where, Yeah, as you said, I had kind
of believed it, and it was nice to actually do it.
Speaker 2 (04:44):
In Canada, it was what the fourth playoff hole to
beat Sam Burns. Were you more relaxed in that playoff situation,
having already chalked up when it moved or beat or not.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Yeah, Look, I think a playoff's probably a little bit
more relaxed to an extent than coming down the streets anyway,
because you know, the worst, you can finish the second.
Like I always thought, playoffs are something that see as
an opportunity. I've got a chance to win, give it
a go. If it doesn't work out, well, you know,
it's not like you can double the last and finish.
Speaker 4 (05:14):
But yeah, it was certainly a little easier.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
In Canada knowing I'd already done it at Myrtle Beach
and I was, you know, kind of playing with house money.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And it was the same coming down the stretch there.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
It was like, I'm not playing for anything by trying
to win the tournament, and that's a really good place
to be coming down the streets. You're not thinking big picture.
It's worth first, saw I need these points to keep
my card or anything. It was like, I've got everything
sort of, I just want to win, and it was
it was nice to pull it off down the stretch.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Jumping around, But back to Myrtle Beach, that chip that chippin'
to winners.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
How do you reflect on that on that golf shot.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Honestly, I just look at it.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
I'd had a bit of bad luck and playoff and
that was that was the one that I got it
all back. You know, I had a couple of guys
whole stupid amounts of puts on me and the Irish
Open and the Dutch Open on the Deep Wael Tour,
and when I hit it in the trees on on
Adeena Myrtle Beach, which actually wasn't that bad a tea shot,
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it just clipped the edge of it, spat it left,
and I was like, oh, it's going to be this again.
You know, it's you know, I get stuffed in a playoff.
But I thought I was pretty lucky to get into
a playoff. And then I had a great shot to
get to that back of the green and when that
chip went and I was.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Like, oh, okay, I've.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
Had the luck go the other way for once. And
I'm standing there looking at my caddy going we're about
due for something to go our way in a playoff,
and I couldn't watch the guy's part and just went
on the crowd reaction.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
I was like, oh, well, okay, that happened pretty quick.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Loved it. And then your kids playing in the sand.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yep, that was in Canada.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
I mean they couldn't have kid lest that dad was
standing up there with a trophy and talking to a
few people.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
They just saw a big sand pit and wanted to play. Love.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
The other special part of it that Canadian Open was
the fact that there were members of the All Whites
watching his Well, they were over there for a for
a a mini tournament. That must have been quite cool
to have some other Kiwis, or not just Kiwis, but
Kiwi sports people there as well.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Yeah, it was really cool.
Speaker 6 (07:15):
I don't even know they were playing until like a
couple of days before, and I got off of tickets
to their game.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
But we were.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
Staying quite a way away and it was pretty hard
to make it into Toronto itself, and I heard Chris
Wood had asked if he could get some tickets for Sunday.
I said, no problem, and actually I sent one of
the PGA to a media guys into the game. He's
a KIWI by the name of Mark Williams, and he
was like, oh, how you got a contact for the game?
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Can I get in? I'm like, yeah, mate, no problem,
got on some tickets and then he got in touch
with the All Whites guys and it wasn't just a.
Speaker 4 (07:48):
Few of them that wanted to come out, it was
all of them and I could hear I could definitely
hear them when I was out on the golf course
during the round.
Speaker 6 (07:56):
I didn't really pay that much attention out on the
out while on the golf course, but you know, coming
in and seeing them all there at the end was
was pretty you know, it's amazing that keywis pop up everywhere,
and to have the All Whites there to celebrate it
was extra special.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Yeah, very very cool.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Like we're going to find it later in the year
where they're going to be based for the World Cup
next year. I don't know that the schedules are unlikely
to collide favorably, but who knows. You might be able
to return the favor and go along and watch them plug.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
That would be very cool. Yeah, very cool.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
So how much freedom does twenty twenty five, give you
over your twenty twenty sixth schedule.
Speaker 4 (08:31):
Basically all the freedom in the world.
Speaker 6 (08:34):
You know, the biggest thing on the PGA Tour and
now is finishing in that top fifty in the Fedix Cup,
and that gives you. You get to pick and choose
your schedule. I get all the elevated events or signature
events next year. I got three of the four majors guaranteed.
I'm not quite not in the US Open yet, but
in a pretty good place world ranking wise to get
in next year. And it's a lot different than it
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has been the last couple of years. I feel like
the PGA Tour does a great job of making you play,
whether you're trying to keep a card or you're trying
to get into something, and I certainly had that in
the last couple of years. I ended up playing a
lot of events to try to get into those signature events.
And then this year, obviously, with a couple of wins,
I got in a couple of majors and a couple
of signature events and ended up playing something like nine
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of ten weeks in a row through the middle of
the year, and I was pretty beaten up at the
end of the year.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Because of that.
Speaker 6 (09:26):
It was all worth it though, And then next year,
you know, I know, at the start of the year,
for the first time, I can at least until the
Open in July, I can pick my schedule and pretty
much not deviate from that, which will be really good.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Winning a major. Is that a goal?
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Is it even a thing to be a goal or
is it just something that will happen as a product
of your continued good form as a golfer.
Speaker 6 (09:50):
I feel like that's on the dream list rather than
a straight goal list. But you know, winning on the
PGA Tour was a dream two or three years ago,
so you know, that jumped into the goal list this year.
So hopefully the same thing can kind of happen with
a major. You know, I have proven to myself that
my good golf is good enough. It's just a question
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of doing it in the right week. And that's really
really hard to do. I mean, there's a few guys
that tend to do it pretty well. Tigers the obvious
one over the years, Scotti Scheffler seems very very good
at doing it. Rory has always been good at doing it.
But you know, there's a lot of top players that
struggle with it sometimes too. You just you go out,
you try to do your best and if it works,
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it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't then you know,
major championships, if you're a little bit off, you get
beaten up really really quickly. So yeah, hopefully next year,
I've obviously got at least three chances, and you know,
hopefully one of those three weeks is the week that
I play really good and give myself a chance on Sunday,
and at that point anything can happen.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
So you're back home here for at eight weeks, a
couple of tournaments and Australia back in November early Decembler.
Speaker 6 (11:00):
Yep, I've got Ossie Pgaossie Open, which feels like my
start of the season. Really, this is my holiday, you know,
got a couple of young kids, and spend some time
with them doing dad stuff and catch up with friends
and family and all that kind of stuff, and hopefully
do a little bit of fishing in the next month
or so, and then getting into November, start the prep
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for those two Ossie events and you know, I get
I'll take a little bit of time off again before Christmas,
but then it'll be building up to, you know, the
starter next year, and I don't know where my first
event will be. That's the only pick up in the schedule.
The Century's not going to be in Hawaii this year
or next year, so just kind of waiting on news
to figure out where that's going to be.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
But yeah, it's it's nice to have a break.
Speaker 6 (11:47):
It's been been a busy year and looking forward to
some downtime and kind of an off season, get the body,
sort of get the mind sorted, and hopefully find a
golf game in November.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
And Manuka Fuel Chasing the Foxes back Royal Auckland and
Grange Golf Club December twelve.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Different format this year as a yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
It is if anyone's followed it the last couple of years,
the guys playing their own ball have really struggled, and
it's you know, we personally, I feel like there's a
bit of pressure on there.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
You know, you want to play really.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Well six holes as a sprint, and if you miss
a couple of parts earlier or hit one bad shot,
you're kind of out of the event. And you know
Nick Randall, who who's the brains behind it. Him and
I have had a good chat about it over the
last sort of six months and tried to figure out
what we could do better, and you know, one was
making sure that we have a partner. So we're still
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working out sort of the logistics of all of that
and who it's going to be and everything. But I'm
going to play with someone this year, you know Dan Helly.
Hopefully we'll be back and he'll play with someone, and
just to make it a bit more interesting for us,
hopefully we can be in it the whole time. It
also gives us some scope for the amateur teams that
we can get some better golfers for them. We've tried
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to manage it the last few years with if there's
three good golfers in the team, they're going to be
impossible to beat. So we've managed the handicap so it
feels like it's going to be fair. Whereas you know,
this year, hopefully with two of us against three, we
can just get the best golf as possible.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
What's it like watching a rugby test with your dad?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
You need m.
Speaker 6 (13:26):
Us to be honest. No, obviously he's he's very passionate
about it. Still, he's very knowledgeable. He's always had a
pretty short fuse. I think anyone that anyone that ever
played with him, you know who was known as the
Little General and that still comes out. He likes swearing
at the TV and it all comes from a good place.
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But he can be he can be a little bit
loud to watch that you watch the game with.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Great to see you, mate, Thanks for making time, you know,
in your time off to come and have a chat
to us. Enjoy the rest of the day man, and
really good to catch up. Congratulations on a magnificent year.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Thanks Jason, appreciate it all.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
The best of your mate. Cheers, Ryan Fox joining us
here at the Kingsland. Gee, what a year for her mate.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
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