James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss All Blacks beating out Australia, the NRL finals and the Women's Rugby World Cup.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey, Hello, James, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Piney, I saw you last night and doing great work. Obviously,
there's ZB team right beside the ACC team at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The ACC team just does I did. I did enjoy
a social media post I'm not sure if you've seen it.
You probably have of the comparison between your lead caller
at the ACC, Mike Lane and his his team notes
in front of him, which is basically just a list
of names alongside Elliott Smith, the ZB caller. With a
bit more detail, you might.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Say, yeah, we were, we were pretty much cheating like
you do, you know, like you shouldn't do in an
exam off Elliott's notes, which are impressive, and thank goodness,
the glasses right there so we can see him. We've
really just got nicknames listed for everybody. We won't we
won't have to go through those today. But how good
was cam Roygard? Goodness?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Honestly, I just you know, you don't want to sort of,
I guess credit the upswing of a team. You know,
we'll credit one guy with the upswing of a team,
But man, how much have we missed that guy? And
how much further ahead of all of the other halfbacks
is he at the moment?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I know, it's interesting because after only thirteen tests is
so important to the All Blacks. Theft is to go
back to people like Michael Jones and Jonah Lomo, even
Andrew Mertins early towards was really crucial to the All
Blacks right, And so that's where cam Royguard is right now.
And it's great. We're watching an athlete peaking and his confidence,
(01:45):
as an Stram mentioned, is at another level, just confidence
in his game. The good thing is that he's twenty four,
so twenty six at the next World Cup Earliot the
one after that. We hoped we've got a few more
years of cam Royguard. But you know, in a bigger
halfback as well, when everyone else seems to be going smaller.
Of the major nations France and South Africa, even Australia
(02:10):
quite small, you know, so he bucks the trend. He's
a freak.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, just and heeh that robust nature that he brings
to to his play in all areas and just just
as little it had I'd forgotten. I watch the highlights
back this morning, a little little tap and go from
a penalty, just you know, putting doubt in the mind
of the opposition. He snipes for the tribe that Leroy
Carter scored. The second one he snipes, bring a couple
of defenders in and makes him at a room for
(02:34):
Leroy Carter, he's just he's just at the scene.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Of the crime.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Every time New Zealand have a significant moment.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, and exit on Leroy Carter and Simon Parker, I
just wanted to give a shout out to them because
they're taking on a lot early in their careers. And
I thought Leroy Carter's tackle on Corey Tool in full
flight when I mean Corey Tool is so rapid and
he was sidestepping Lero Carter read it and met him
and absolutely planted him in the ground. So you know,
(03:02):
having a defender like that is great out wide. And
Simon Parker, you can't underrate, overrate you know what he's
done because he's he's freeing out Artie Savia, he's freeing
up while he's doing the graft and and he's doing
it well. So shout out to them. And also I
thought out midfield, you know, played well, shutting down, so
(03:23):
Elity Jordi Barrett. I liked that hybrid role from fullback
you know, to a seeking five. I mean, why not.
First fights are always in the backfield, and Quinty Pyre
coming on was fantastic. But there was one moment Piney
and I know that you played a clipbook earlier of
Caleb Clark when he realized he was surprised by a
(03:45):
Ronnie Clark, his dad singing the anthem, what the voice
of an angel? But I know that you spoke to him,
but he also spoke the sky and this caught my attention,
so heiriots.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I had my eyes closed for most of us. I
wasn't crying, but then through the English prot probably halfway
through the English part of the anthem, I'm like, I
know this voice. I know this voice, and the whole
time while he's next to me being me on the shoulder,
going yes, and I was like, I opened my eyes
and I look at the screen, I see my dad,
I went. That's when I just sort of bawling my
eyes out. So I was real special. I was just
(04:18):
talking to my family. None of them knew either, so
that was real cool.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I love that. I love that it's so authentic, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, it's just an amazing moment and you think, like,
you know how Americans do the do that quite well,
just you know, making things poignant. Whitney Houston singing the
national anthem at the Super Bowl, things like that, and
that was another level. So we are owning it in
terms of theatrics, feelings, the fields. We got everyone in
(04:47):
the fields with that. I defy anyone not to have
felt something when they saw a Ronnie singing and Caleb crying.
Come on now, it's one of the great moments in
New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And tens of thousands, if not more, of people have
said that video was gone as they say, James, it's
gone viral. So yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere, and you're right,
a very very special and very poignant moment.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Now, can the Broncos beat the Panthers tonight or not?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, it's interesting because you've got the two most influential
players on both sides similar roughly the same size, Nathan
Cleary and Reese Walsh, and they will have their hands
on everything and you couldn't think of two players who
are more different. Reese is just you know, lightning in
a bottle. He is rest lightning. He's you know, mercurial.
(05:37):
Sometimes things don't come off, but he's really got you know,
he shot out of a cannon speed. He's just so dangerous.
And then Nathan Cleary is the master at this level,
just the puppet master pulling the strings. And so I'm
I'm thinking the Panthers can get up. And I like
(05:57):
that because I know some people want the Broncos to
go through. But for me, it's like heavyweight boxing, You're
only the champ if you beat the champs. So I
actually do want the Storm to play the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's funny at the sort of at the start of
the season, even halfway through the season, we're like, hey,
there's some different teams. Canberra is going to do well,
and Brisbane are there or thereabouts, and the Bulldogs and
who knows even the Warriors. But here we are one
week away from having the Storm against the Panthers again.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, and that's that's a great narrative because I like
the fact that the cream rises to the top. You
don't want to have to have somebody who can't handle
the enormity of the Grand Final, because that's even more pressure, right,
so yeah, bring on the heavyweights and of course if
whoever goes through to that Grand Final. Now that jar
Orham Hughes is combining with Harry Grant, I mean, just
(06:47):
two of the best in history. And I think Jerome
Is I mean as a Kiwis player, I mean and
myself as a Kewis fan watching them all out there contributing,
I mean there's about five five on each side, you know,
five Kiwis maybe more.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, it's good to see the Kiwi's involved in the
n'derstand even if the Warriors aren't to be Hey are
the women's are black Funds come home with a bronze
medal from the Rugby World Cup beating France in the
game for third and fourth this morning?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
How do you think they'll reflect on their tournament.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, they'll be bummed out because they definitely had the
potential to go and trouble England. I don't know if
they would have got up and beaten England, but that
it was really good to see them, you know, get
it together. Just plut there's some Champagne rugby. I mean,
the try Rene home score is a beautiful team try
so the skill level is elite, and I think there's
(07:44):
a few players who really stood out, and of course
we're just waiting for someone like Georgia Miller is a
bit like cam Royguard in terms of her influence on
that team already you know early doors and she's pretty
much the best player. So what's you know, her development
with interest? But I was caught by the fact that
(08:04):
John Mitchell redemptions sorry for Mitch, who coached the England
women to World Cup glory, and I know that, you
know he was made fun of when he was with
the or Blacks talking about the journey and also when
he was Western Force coach. He really wanted this a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Proper rectangular stadium. I repeat, a proper rectangular stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well he got what he wanted, Pony. He was in Twickna.
You know what that is. It's a proper rectangular stadium
and he brought it home. So and he talked about
it in the press conference that it was like climbing
a mountain. So he hasn't let go of the journey
at all. He's just going up instead of across. So
good on you, Mitch. He was one of my childhood
(08:50):
heroes when he was captain of ye cuttle and I
as a fan, I actually send him a lot of
faxes back in the day, you know, remember that. But
I actually got found guilty of Mitch faxing so had
to stop that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Just before you go, are you keeping an eye on
the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yes, Scottie Cheffler has just got the worst record ever,
the first player in Ryder Cup history. You go, oh,
and for the first four sessions, so I can't believe that.
So yes, Europe incredible. It's hard to remember the golf
because everyone's pulling focus from wags to fans. But it's
a good theater and it finishes tomorrow morning, so if
(09:27):
you can get up early, it still might be worth
a watch. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
James, always good chatting to you. Great to see you
in person as well a couple of days ago. Hopefully
that happens again soon. Our will chat next Sunday if
that works with your very busy schedule.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was as emotional as Caleb seeing you at Sky
It was great for me, mate, beautiful, beautiful moment.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Thanks good to chat as always, James mccony, huge part
of our Sundays about this time every Sunday afternoon on
weekend Sport.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport Podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talk zed B.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
James mcconey, Hello, James, Hello.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Piney, I saw you last night and doing great work. Obviously,
there's ZB team right beside the ACC team at Eden Park.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
The ACC team just does I did. I did enjoy
a social media post I'm not sure if you've seen it.
You probably have of the comparison between your lead caller
at the ACC, Mike Lane and his his team notes
in front of him, which is basically just a list
of names alongside Elliott Smith, the ZB caller. With a
bit more detail, you might.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Say, yeah, we were, we were pretty much cheating like
you do, you know, like you shouldn't do in an
exam off Elliott's notes, which are impressive, and thank goodness,
the glasses right there so we can see him. We've
really just got nicknames listed for everybody. We won't we
won't have to go through those today. But how good
was cam Roygard? Goodness?
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Honestly, I just you know, you don't want to sort of,
I guess credit the upswing of a team. You know,
we'll credit one guy with the upswing of a team,
But man, how much have we missed that guy? And
how much further ahead of all of the other halfbacks
is he at the moment?
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I know, it's interesting because after only thirteen tests is
so important to the All Blacks. Theft is to go
back to people like Michael Jones and Jonah Lomo, even
Andrew Mertins early towards was really crucial to the All
Blacks right, And so that's where cam Royguard is right now.
And it's great. We're watching an athlete peaking and his confidence,
(01:45):
as an Stram mentioned, is at another level, just confidence
in his game. The good thing is that he's twenty four,
so twenty six at the next World Cup Earliot the
one after that. We hoped we've got a few more
years of cam Royguard. But you know, in a bigger
halfback as well, when everyone else seems to be going smaller.
Of the major nations France and South Africa, even Australia
(02:10):
quite small, you know, so he bucks the trend. He's
a freak.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Yeah, just and heeh that robust nature that he brings
to to his play in all areas and just just
as little it had I'd forgotten. I watch the highlights
back this morning, a little little tap and go from
a penalty, just you know, putting doubt in the mind
of the opposition. He snipes for the tribe that Leroy
Carter scored. The second one he snipes, bring a couple
of defenders in and makes him at a room for
(02:34):
Leroy Carter, he's just he's just at the scene.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
Of the crime.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Every time New Zealand have a significant moment.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
Yeah, and exit on Leroy Carter and Simon Parker, I
just wanted to give a shout out to them because
they're taking on a lot early in their careers. And
I thought Leroy Carter's tackle on Corey Tool in full
flight when I mean Corey Tool is so rapid and
he was sidestepping Lero Carter read it and met him
and absolutely planted him in the ground. So you know,
(03:02):
having a defender like that is great out wide. And
Simon Parker, you can't underrate, overrate you know what he's
done because he's he's freeing out Artie Savia, he's freeing
up while he's doing the graft and and he's doing
it well. So shout out to them. And also I
thought out midfield, you know, played well, shutting down, so
(03:23):
Elity Jordi Barrett. I liked that hybrid role from fullback
you know, to a seeking five. I mean, why not.
First fights are always in the backfield, and Quinty Pyre
coming on was fantastic. But there was one moment Piney
and I know that you played a clipbook earlier of
Caleb Clark when he realized he was surprised by a
(03:45):
Ronnie Clark, his dad singing the anthem, what the voice
of an angel? But I know that you spoke to him,
but he also spoke the sky and this caught my attention,
so heiriots.
Speaker 5 (03:56):
I had my eyes closed for most of us. I
wasn't crying, but then through the English prot probably halfway
through the English part of the anthem, I'm like, I
know this voice. I know this voice, and the whole
time while he's next to me being me on the shoulder,
going yes, and I was like, I opened my eyes
and I look at the screen, I see my dad,
I went. That's when I just sort of bawling my
eyes out. So I was real special. I was just
(04:18):
talking to my family. None of them knew either, so
that was real cool.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
I love that. I love that it's so authentic, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
Yeah, it's just an amazing moment and you think, like,
you know how Americans do the do that quite well,
just you know, making things poignant. Whitney Houston singing the
national anthem at the Super Bowl, things like that, and
that was another level. So we are owning it in
terms of theatrics, feelings, the fields. We got everyone in
(04:47):
the fields with that. I defy anyone not to have
felt something when they saw a Ronnie singing and Caleb crying.
Come on now, it's one of the great moments in
New Zealand's sporting history.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
And tens of thousands, if not more, of people have
said that video was gone as they say, James, it's
gone viral. So yeah, it's everywhere. It's everywhere, and you're right,
a very very special and very poignant moment.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Now, can the Broncos beat the Panthers tonight or not?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Well, it's interesting because you've got the two most influential
players on both sides similar roughly the same size, Nathan
Cleary and Reese Walsh, and they will have their hands
on everything and you couldn't think of two players who
are more different. Reese is just you know, lightning in
a bottle. He is rest lightning. He's you know, mercurial.
(05:37):
Sometimes things don't come off, but he's really got you know,
he shot out of a cannon speed. He's just so dangerous.
And then Nathan Cleary is the master at this level,
just the puppet master pulling the strings. And so I'm
I'm thinking the Panthers can get up. And I like
(05:57):
that because I know some people want the Broncos to
go through. But for me, it's like heavyweight boxing, You're
only the champ if you beat the champs. So I
actually do want the Storm to play the Panthers.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
It's funny at the sort of at the start of
the season, even halfway through the season, we're like, hey,
there's some different teams. Canberra is going to do well,
and Brisbane are there or thereabouts, and the Bulldogs and
who knows even the Warriors. But here we are one
week away from having the Storm against the Panthers again.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Yeah, and that's that's a great narrative because I like
the fact that the cream rises to the top. You
don't want to have to have somebody who can't handle
the enormity of the Grand Final, because that's even more pressure, right,
so yeah, bring on the heavyweights and of course if
whoever goes through to that Grand Final. Now that jar
Orham Hughes is combining with Harry Grant, I mean, just
(06:47):
two of the best in history. And I think Jerome
Is I mean as a Kiwis player, I mean and
myself as a Kewis fan watching them all out there contributing,
I mean there's about five five on each side, you know,
five Kiwis maybe more.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, it's good to see the Kiwi's involved in the
n'derstand even if the Warriors aren't to be Hey are
the women's are black Funds come home with a bronze
medal from the Rugby World Cup beating France in the
game for third and fourth this morning?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
How do you think they'll reflect on their tournament.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
Yeah, they'll be bummed out because they definitely had the
potential to go and trouble England. I don't know if
they would have got up and beaten England, but that
it was really good to see them, you know, get
it together. Just plut there's some Champagne rugby. I mean,
the try Rene home score is a beautiful team try
so the skill level is elite, and I think there's
(07:44):
a few players who really stood out, and of course
we're just waiting for someone like Georgia Miller is a
bit like cam Royguard in terms of her influence on
that team already you know early doors and she's pretty
much the best player. So what's you know, her development
with interest? But I was caught by the fact that
(08:04):
John Mitchell redemptions sorry for Mitch, who coached the England
women to World Cup glory, and I know that, you
know he was made fun of when he was with
the or Blacks talking about the journey and also when
he was Western Force coach. He really wanted this a.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Proper rectangular stadium. I repeat, a proper rectangular stadium.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
Well he got what he wanted, Pony. He was in Twickna.
You know what that is. It's a proper rectangular stadium
and he brought it home. So and he talked about
it in the press conference that it was like climbing
a mountain. So he hasn't let go of the journey
at all. He's just going up instead of across. So
good on you, Mitch. He was one of my childhood
(08:50):
heroes when he was captain of ye cuttle and I
as a fan, I actually send him a lot of
faxes back in the day, you know, remember that. But
I actually got found guilty of Mitch faxing so had
to stop that.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Just before you go, are you keeping an eye on
the Ryder Cup?
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Yes, Scottie Cheffler has just got the worst record ever,
the first player in Ryder Cup history. You go, oh,
and for the first four sessions, so I can't believe that.
So yes, Europe incredible. It's hard to remember the golf
because everyone's pulling focus from wags to fans. But it's
a good theater and it finishes tomorrow morning, so if
(09:27):
you can get up early, it still might be worth
a watch. I reckon.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
James, always good chatting to you. Great to see you
in person as well a couple of days ago. Hopefully
that happens again soon. Our will chat next Sunday if
that works with your very busy schedule.
Speaker 5 (09:40):
Oh.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was as emotional as Caleb seeing you at Sky
It was great for me, mate, beautiful, beautiful moment.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
Thanks good to chat as always, James mccony, huge part
of our Sundays about this time every Sunday afternoon on
weekend Sport.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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