Mt Maunganui rain has scuppered the Black Caps chances of reclaiming cricket's Chappell-Hadlee Trophy.
Last night's second T20 against Australia was eventually reduced to a nine-over match, but just 2.1 overs were possible before the wet weather returned and the contest had to be abandoned.
The Bay Oval is again host for tonight's third and final match of the series.
Black Caps coach Rob Walter told Jason Pine that while it’s disappointing they don’t have a shot at winning back the trophy, there’s a lot to learn from the outing.
“We’ll sort of focus this evening on trying to level up the scores.”
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News talks'd b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, I'm out not going to be rain. His scup
of the black Caps chances of reclaiming Crickets Chapel Hadley
Trophy last night second T twenty was eventually reduced down
to two point one overs, so basically abandoned. Bay Oval
is again the host for tonight's third and final match
of the series. Black Caps coach Rob Walter is with
us out of the mount despite the rain. Raw, are
you at least getting value from having the squad together?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Absolutely, Obviously disappointing that we don't have a shot at
winning back to Chapel had lead, but we'll sort of
focus on.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The givening on trying to level up the scores.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But could to you know, have a run under a
couple of days ago there was a good art thing
and a lot to learn from that. And then you know,
just hats off to the boys yesterday, even though there's
only thirteen balls, you know, you wait to run all
day to get an opportunity. I thought, you know, they
did the thirteen balls well, and.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
To pity that you couldn't get some form of gam.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's good to get the chance to chat to you, Rob.
You've been in the job four months now. Your first
assignment the T twenty try series with South Africa in Zimbabwe.
In Zimbabwe you won that. Then a comfortable two nil
Test series won against Zimbabwe was the main advantage for you,
The chance to spend time on tour with your players.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I think I always say that you only know really
the newhere kings of a team and an environment and
see walking issues. So it was good to just go
and to spend a lot of time observing and obviously
connecting with players and staff and just getting a sense
of half things operate and where the potential gaps are.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So yeah, it was. It was a great tour for that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The two Tests against Zimbabwe were very lopsided. You won
by nine wickets and then by an innings in three
hundred and fifty nine runs. Where do you find value
in lopsided contests like that?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I suppose you know, from a team point of view,
you sort of can only compete with what's in front
of you, and I thought you did that well.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
The bat is, you know, you've still got.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
To score the range you's got to apply yourself in
Test cricket, it doesn't matter who you're playing, and I
thought we'd certainly got better as the.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Two games went on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And then from a bowling point of view, you know, we.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Had a couple of debut times, so the same thing applies.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know, all of those wild we test batters, you
know a.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Lot of them have got Test hundreds and highly experienced,
so you still have to bowl well and put the
ball in the right area. Then for young guys making
their debuts, I don't think it matters who you're playing against.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
The will still be some sort of element of nerves there.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So to see them come in to the team and ready,
stand up and thrive was great and sort of great
indication of the environment as well. So whilst it was lopsided,
there's always you know, there's always stuff to take away
that I thought the guys did impressively.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
How much of the summer is about preparing for the
T twenty World Cup in February and March.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, of course, also have one eye on that tournament
and you know, sort of working towards it by bit.
I think ultimately foundationally you know, the blocks in place
and just sort of fine tuning and evolving certain small
elements in our game for that for that competition, and
fortunately there's you know, there's a fair bit of competition
(03:27):
for places out there, so you know these games are
important one for that, but also for for a unit
just to get closer and closer to understanding around how
we want to play.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It does feel like we're building some significant white ball death.
Even with a number of players unavailable for this current series,
there's still a very strong side you can put out.
How do you evaluate the player poll for in particular
T twenty and fifty over cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think you know, by nature of the way cricket
operates at the moment is you know, franchise leagues pulling
players sort of out of international duty now and then
you by default build a bigger puoll. But it's nart
to have seen how you know that pool has delivered
good results of I think back to the Pakistan series
at the end of the last summer. You know, I
(04:14):
think Garry and the team that are out of a
job in terms of building that that depth, and we're
seeing guys getting opportunities to play and really stepping up
when they get those chips. So it's always a good sign.
I mean, at the end of the day, you're always better.
There's more guys competing for a spot, and it makes
it sort of drives performance without having to do too much.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
So, you know, we want as many.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Quality players as we can possibly get because we know
that you know that the international cricket world is demanded
that really.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
It's not possible to just lean on the resources of.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
A couple of you know, like fifteen players and think
that that's going to be enough. So the stronger a
pool can be, the bet will be for.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Us and cricket and cricket contracts an ever changing issue
in modern day cricket and ever changing landscape. How do
you best navigate the fact that some of your pliers
are seemed really contracted and some of them aren't.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, I think first foremostly especially for world events, essentially
the casual contracts kind of mirror the peak event that's
in front of us, and so hence the guys who
are contracted this time round was the teacher when you
World Cup next year, you just want to have your
best players available to play for your country, you know,
And that's kind of what we try and achieve. We
(05:25):
understand the landscape is changing and it's and it changes quickly.
So we just want to be as flexible as we
possibly can within either realms of contracting ready, and it's
it's not something that you know, you can kind of
make for it to everyone. It's just have to do
the best that you possibly can for everyone that's involved
in the system. And so we certainly try to achieve that.
(05:46):
But you know, guys are still committed to playing for
for the black Caps and we see that when they
come back into the environment, and so you know, we've
got a group of players that are ready, hungry and
want to do well.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
One of those on occasional playing agreement this season is
Kane Williamson. He opted out of this current series against Australia.
How often are we going to see Kane william Some
play for New Zealand over the next few months.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I'm pretty sure that McCain will be running out for
the black Caps. The sort of mechanisms of exactly what
that looks like, we're still you know, chatting about and
working out and obviously that you know, Kane's played and
represented the Black Ops for a very long time and
there's really an icon of the black Caps units. So
trying to ultimately manage his time and manage the program
(06:33):
running forward, and this also appreciating you know, the other
elements of his life that needs to take care of
is you know, this is what we're in conversation with.
But like all these guys, I keep saying, you know,
he's dedicated to just still playing for the black Caps
and that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Just the three Test matches this home summer or before Christmas,
all against the West Indiast. I know, you know you
can't control this, rob but would you like to be
playing some red ball cricket at home in January and February?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean, obviously that is a peak time of
our summer and for the international schedule is what it
is really and the World Cup being in February is
you know, that's where it's been positioned and ultimately we have.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
To prep for that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So you know, if you look forward to the following year,
we've got ten Test matches in the almost so you
know that'll be a massive.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Test match season for us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And you know, if you're a test Test match lover
and the love of the suppirest format of the game,
that's going to be the time. You're going to be
very interested with tourist England and Australia and India and
in New Zealand, so it will be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Rightch and Ravendra is he okay after his collision with
the advertising harning the other day?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, I know he's he's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I mean I think ultimately, you know, he's a bit
bashed up and there's a you know, a wound that
needs healing on his face and we didn't want to
take any chances with that. But hopefully, you know, the
healing takes place in the time frames that it shouldn't
be see him back fairly soon.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But it could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
But we're still feeling for him and how.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Desperty was to play this series, so he was highly
highly disappointed when he wasn't able to.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And your White Paul captain Mitchell Santner recovering from a
sports hern here he suffered playing in the one hundred
in England. Has he been in and around this team,
the team this week.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, he's been.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Here for essentially you know, the time as we've been
in the mount, you've been with us. It's obviously important
for me having him around as a White Bull captain
sometimes it's quite handy having him in the box with
me a while the game's going on, so we can talk
in a strategy and I can understand what he sees
from a captain'sy point of view.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
So and then also just just.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Chipping away at his rehab and a little bit of
cricker that he's able to do. So it's been it's
been really good having him run.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I think I heard Lackie Ferguson was down for
a bowl yesterday. He's got a hamstring strain he's recovering from.
So is he somewhere close to a return?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
All going, Well, yeah, we're not quite sure exactly when
that will be because obviously it's an injury that you
need to manage properly, and we want to get the
management of it. But again, you know, you know, the
Key and Markey event is next year in February, so
it's really about making sure that you've given the best
chance of putting his name forward for that competition. So
(09:18):
we'll just take the time that we need to to
make sure, you know, everything gets done properly.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
All right, And crucially, how are we looking for a
bit of cricket tonight.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, at the moment, the suns out, you'll be happy.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
To know so right, there's a lot of cloud around,
but the weather forecast, although will be them I'm not
reliable at the best of times, says that it's going
to be clear by this evening. So we don't think
that's so sure.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We'll keep our fingers crossed. Rob, all the best for
tonight and on through the summer. Look forward to catching
up again. But thanks for taking the time this afternoon.
No thank you, No there you take care to thanks indeed,
Robalt to black Caps coach seven to three. News Talks ITB.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talks it B weekends from midday, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News talks'd b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Well, I'm out not going to be rain. His scup
of the black Caps chances of reclaiming Crickets Chapel Hadley
Trophy last night second T twenty was eventually reduced down
to two point one overs, so basically abandoned. Bay Oval
is again the host for tonight's third and final match
of the series. Black Caps coach Rob Walter is with
us out of the mount despite the rain. Raw, are
you at least getting value from having the squad together?
Speaker 3 (00:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:36):
Absolutely, Obviously disappointing that we don't have a shot at
winning back to Chapel had lead, but we'll sort of
focus on.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
The givening on trying to level up the scores.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
But could to you know, have a run under a
couple of days ago there was a good art thing
and a lot to learn from that. And then you know,
just hats off to the boys yesterday, even though there's
only thirteen balls, you know, you wait to run all
day to get an opportunity. I thought, you know, they
did the thirteen balls well, and.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
To pity that you couldn't get some form of gam.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It's good to get the chance to chat to you, Rob.
You've been in the job four months now. Your first
assignment the T twenty try series with South Africa in Zimbabwe.
In Zimbabwe you won that. Then a comfortable two nil
Test series won against Zimbabwe was the main advantage for you,
The chance to spend time on tour with your players.
Speaker 5 (01:25):
Yeah. Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I think I always say that you only know really
the newhere kings of a team and an environment and
see walking issues. So it was good to just go
and to spend a lot of time observing and obviously
connecting with players and staff and just getting a sense
of half things operate and where the potential gaps are.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
So yeah, it was. It was a great tour for that.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
The two Tests against Zimbabwe were very lopsided. You won
by nine wickets and then by an innings in three
hundred and fifty nine runs. Where do you find value
in lopsided contests like that?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
I suppose you know, from a team point of view,
you sort of can only compete with what's in front
of you, and I thought you did that well.
Speaker 5 (02:10):
The bat is, you know, you've still got.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
To score the range you's got to apply yourself in
Test cricket, it doesn't matter who you're playing, and I
thought we'd certainly got better as the.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Two games went on.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
And then from a bowling point of view, you know, we.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Had a couple of debut times, so the same thing applies.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
You know, all of those wild we test batters, you
know a.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Lot of them have got Test hundreds and highly experienced,
so you still have to bowl well and put the
ball in the right area. Then for young guys making
their debuts, I don't think it matters who you're playing against.
Speaker 5 (02:40):
The will still be some sort of element of nerves there.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
So to see them come in to the team and ready,
stand up and thrive was great and sort of great
indication of the environment as well. So whilst it was lopsided,
there's always you know, there's always stuff to take away
that I thought the guys did impressively.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
Well.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
How much of the summer is about preparing for the
T twenty World Cup in February and March.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
Yeah, of course, also have one eye on that tournament
and you know, sort of working towards it by bit.
I think ultimately foundationally you know, the blocks in place
and just sort of fine tuning and evolving certain small
elements in our game for that for that competition, and
fortunately there's you know, there's a fair bit of competition
(03:27):
for places out there, so you know these games are
important one for that, but also for for a unit
just to get closer and closer to understanding around how
we want to play.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
It does feel like we're building some significant white ball death.
Even with a number of players unavailable for this current series,
there's still a very strong side you can put out.
How do you evaluate the player poll for in particular
T twenty and fifty over cricket.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I think you know, by nature of the way cricket
operates at the moment is you know, franchise leagues pulling
players sort of out of international duty now and then
you by default build a bigger puoll. But it's nart
to have seen how you know that pool has delivered
good results of I think back to the Pakistan series
at the end of the last summer. You know, I
(04:14):
think Garry and the team that are out of a
job in terms of building that that depth, and we're
seeing guys getting opportunities to play and really stepping up
when they get those chips. So it's always a good sign.
I mean, at the end of the day, you're always better.
There's more guys competing for a spot, and it makes
it sort of drives performance without having to do too much.
Speaker 5 (04:34):
So, you know, we want as many.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
Quality players as we can possibly get because we know
that you know that the international cricket world is demanded
that really.
Speaker 5 (04:44):
It's not possible to just lean on the resources of.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
A couple of you know, like fifteen players and think
that that's going to be enough. So the stronger a
pool can be, the bet will be for.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Us and cricket and cricket contracts an ever changing issue
in modern day cricket and ever changing landscape. How do
you best navigate the fact that some of your pliers
are seemed really contracted and some of them aren't.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
Well, I think first foremostly especially for world events, essentially
the casual contracts kind of mirror the peak event that's
in front of us, and so hence the guys who
are contracted this time round was the teacher when you
World Cup next year, you just want to have your
best players available to play for your country, you know,
And that's kind of what we try and achieve. We
(05:25):
understand the landscape is changing and it's and it changes quickly.
So we just want to be as flexible as we
possibly can within either realms of contracting ready, and it's
it's not something that you know, you can kind of
make for it to everyone. It's just have to do
the best that you possibly can for everyone that's involved
in the system. And so we certainly try to achieve that.
(05:46):
But you know, guys are still committed to playing for
for the black Caps and we see that when they
come back into the environment, and so you know, we've
got a group of players that are ready, hungry and
want to do well.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
One of those on occasional playing agreement this season is
Kane Williamson. He opted out of this current series against Australia.
How often are we going to see Kane william Some
play for New Zealand over the next few months.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
I'm pretty sure that McCain will be running out for
the black Caps. The sort of mechanisms of exactly what
that looks like, we're still you know, chatting about and
working out and obviously that you know, Kane's played and
represented the Black Ops for a very long time and
there's really an icon of the black Caps units. So
trying to ultimately manage his time and manage the program
(06:33):
running forward, and this also appreciating you know, the other
elements of his life that needs to take care of
is you know, this is what we're in conversation with.
But like all these guys, I keep saying, you know,
he's dedicated to just still playing for the black Caps
and that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Just the three Test matches this home summer or before Christmas,
all against the West Indiast. I know, you know you
can't control this, rob but would you like to be
playing some red ball cricket at home in January and February?
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Yeah, I mean, obviously that is a peak time of
our summer and for the international schedule is what it
is really and the World Cup being in February is
you know, that's where it's been positioned and ultimately we have.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
To prep for that.
Speaker 4 (07:14):
So you know, if you look forward to the following year,
we've got ten Test matches in the almost so you
know that'll be a massive.
Speaker 5 (07:21):
Test match season for us.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
And you know, if you're a test Test match lover
and the love of the suppirest format of the game,
that's going to be the time. You're going to be
very interested with tourist England and Australia and India and
in New Zealand, so it will be awesome.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Rightch and Ravendra is he okay after his collision with
the advertising harning the other day?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Yeah, I know he's he's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:43):
I mean I think ultimately, you know, he's a bit
bashed up and there's a you know, a wound that
needs healing on his face and we didn't want to
take any chances with that. But hopefully, you know, the
healing takes place in the time frames that it shouldn't
be see him back fairly soon.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But it could have been a lot worse.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
But we're still feeling for him and how.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Desperty was to play this series, so he was highly
highly disappointed when he wasn't able to.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
And your White Paul captain Mitchell Santner recovering from a
sports hern here he suffered playing in the one hundred
in England. Has he been in and around this team,
the team this week.
Speaker 5 (08:18):
Yeah, he's been.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Here for essentially you know, the time as we've been
in the mount, you've been with us. It's obviously important
for me having him around as a White Bull captain
sometimes it's quite handy having him in the box with
me a while the game's going on, so we can talk
in a strategy and I can understand what he sees
from a captain'sy point of view.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
So and then also just just.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Chipping away at his rehab and a little bit of
cricker that he's able to do. So it's been it's
been really good having him run.
Speaker 5 (08:47):
All right.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
And I think I heard Lackie Ferguson was down for
a bowl yesterday. He's got a hamstring strain he's recovering from.
So is he somewhere close to a return?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
All going, Well, yeah, we're not quite sure exactly when
that will be because obviously it's an injury that you
need to manage properly, and we want to get the
management of it. But again, you know, you know, the
Key and Markey event is next year in February, so
it's really about making sure that you've given the best
chance of putting his name forward for that competition. So
(09:18):
we'll just take the time that we need to to
make sure, you know, everything gets done properly.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
All right, And crucially, how are we looking for a
bit of cricket tonight.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Well, at the moment, the suns out, you'll be happy.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
To know so right, there's a lot of cloud around,
but the weather forecast, although will be them I'm not
reliable at the best of times, says that it's going
to be clear by this evening. So we don't think
that's so sure.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
We'll keep our fingers crossed. Rob, all the best for
tonight and on through the summer. Look forward to catching
up again. But thanks for taking the time this afternoon.
No thank you, No there you take care to thanks indeed,
Robalt to black Caps coach seven to three. News Talks ITB.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine. Listen live
to News Talks it B weekends from midday, or follow
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