October 10, 2025 • 15 mins
25 years ago, Kiwi sporting icon Mark Inglis made history, winning New Zealand’s first ever Paralympic Cycling medal at the 2000 Sydney Paralympic Games.
But this isn’t the extent of his achievements – Inglis having survived 13 days trapped on Mount Cook and becoming the first person to summit Mount Everest as a double amputee.
He told Piney that losing your legs is hard, but if you’re going to have them cut off at 23, the best person to do it to is a young mountaineer.
“You live in an environment where if you make the right move, you might die, and so you have that ability to focus, and that’s what, you know, you’re able to bring along to this new situation.”
“And so it wasn’t about, oh, I’ll never climb again, it’s just like, when can I climb again?”
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from Newstalk ZB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This year marks the twenty fifth anniversary of the Sydney
Paralympic Games. Forty two Kiwis represented New Zealand at those
Games and brought home eighteen medals, including our first ever
Paralympic medal in cycling, when Paralympian number one two four
mark Ingalls claimed silver in the kiloh time trial. Eighteen
(00:34):
years previously, in November nineteen eighty two, at the age
of twenty three, had been stuck in a snow cave
on Odaki Mount Cook for thirteen days because of an
intense blizzard and had both his legs amputated below the knee.
After he was rescued, his passion for the outdoors never
left him, though. He became a successful power alpine skier,
(00:55):
claiming several national and international medals, and later turned to
competitive cycling, representing New Zealand at the World Champs and
winning that historic silver medal at the two thousand Sydney
Paralympic Games. In two thousand and two, he was appointed
an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for
services to People with disabilities. In two thousand and six,
(01:17):
he became the first ever double amputee to reach the
summit of Mount Everest. What a pleasure to welcome mark
Ingalls into the studio. Great to see him mate. One
week short of twenty five years since you won that
medal October eighteen, two thousand, it was Is it still vivid?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh? Very much?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah. I mean, well, you couldn't think of the better
place to have what we call it the Olympics, you know,
because it's the they have the practice event the few
weeks earlier, and they've got it right for us.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And when we turn up and you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Know, Sydney, what a phenomenal atmosphere, that whole city of
five million or a hair of many they have just
brought into the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was electric.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
He had been a very successful skier. What was it
about cycling that attracted you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Because I wasn't that successful at skiing. Really it's you know,
it's for cycling. The one thing for a double mputee
is it allows you to have a really high cardiac
output without wrecking your stumps. And so I tried the
running thing and things like that. Skiing you really can
(02:29):
only do it in the winter here in New Zealand,
then you have to go overseas and had a young family,
so that wasn't working out. But if you've got a bike, yeah,
you can bike anywhere at any time. And you know,
back at Mount Cook in the day, back in the
late seventies and early eighties, we had some of the
first mountain bikes in New Zealand. We had ski guides
bringing them over from America. You know, so the very
(02:50):
first specialized stump jumpers and earn all these things, and
so we were happily riding around national parks. Well you're
still allowed to, yeah, And so cycling has always been
in the DNA.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So once you took it up, was it always your
ambition You're aimed to be bloody good at it?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You know a bit of your attention deficit mail and
it's like if you're going to ride a bike there
and emails will ride it fast. And so initially I
hadn't discovered the Paralympic cycling. It was only once I'd
got into it for a few years when I was
doing a bit of technical mountain biking and the likes.
There was no mountain bike or Paralympic mountain biking, and
(03:35):
so I swapped back over to the road and then
got on the road bike and discovered that whole paralymp
you know. And we were ten years behind the rest
of the world here in New Zealand, you know, because
we are a long way from everywhere. There were professional
European Paralympic cyclists. All the big teams had a Paralympic
team as well, you know, the US, the UK, all
(03:59):
of Europe, even Australia was striding out in front of us.
So you know, it was what a fantastic opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How long did it take you to get used to
riding on a vlodrome?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The ten days before riding on my kilo to do
the training. I was senior wine maker at Montana and
Mulbre at the time, and our only training track was
the four hundred meter concrete track that was on the
outside of the running track, and so the steepest part
of that valodrome was flatter than the flattest part of
(04:37):
the valodrome and so I'd never written on boards. You know,
Poor Al Wayne that the team manager, when he saw
me going for my first lap around, you know, telling
me to go.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Up, go up, go up, and I'm getting there. I'm
getting there.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And I always remember he rang up Ron Cheatly, you know,
New Zealand's most famous cycle and track coach, and he said,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ron, what am I going to do here? You know
I got this? You know I've got this country hick.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
He's never actually been on it, so it was it
was a bit of a learning experience for us all.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So you went to Sydney, as I understand it, without
even an official time recorded over one thousand meters. Had
you never competed in this event before?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
No, not in the kilo, So you know I made
some I had some good wins and in the road cycling,
and that my advantage has always been as a double amputee,
you can get out of the settle and you can sprint,
so it means you can climb really well on road cycling,
or it means you can start really fast. So it
(05:39):
was no use me doing an individual pursuit. I'd be
able to do the first lap fast and everyone catches
you up. And so the selectors at the time took
a punt. They knew that I was writing really well.
An amazing coach Tony Kadderick from Blenham and you know
they put the faith in me and blindly entered me
(06:00):
in the kilo and you know it was like it
was made for me.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So you're completely under the rate, unranked. So the way
this event works, as most people know, is that the
I guess, the faster riders go last, so you would
have been one of the first. You clocked one twenty
three point one six' nine and then what you just
have to sit and watch the rest of the field
and hope they don't go.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Quicker it's amazing every TIME i see this happen on
Our olympic And paralympic. Coverage you, know you see that
person that's done a really fast say like toall To,
france you, know you see and the time, trials you
know that one guy is sitting in the hot seat
until someone goes. Faster it's like, ah you, know and
it was just watching, everyone you, know because, yeah it
(06:43):
was there were all of the fastest guys in the
world were coming after, me and it was just like
there was, one you, know the one that then all
of a sudden you've got a bronze. Medal you, know
it's like, sweet that's that's good for, me you. Know
and then you know the last, one and so that
Was Radovan, kaufman and you know he was a single
above the, amputee but that one leg he had that
(07:04):
had a lot Of slovenia beef in, it you, know
look like a. Powerpole and as soon as he as
soon as he lit, OFF i knew that he would
come close or beat.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Me. Yep silver must still have been, special, though because
what were your expectations going and did you expect to
be on the.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Podium, oh definitely. Not you, know, well, no that's.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Wrong you're not competing in something if you don't want to,
win of, course you, know and you don't compete in.
Something AND i knew that in my, TRAINING i had
ridden the first lap faster than the world record for
the first, lap but you know it was unofficially. TIMED
i knew that IF i could just hang in there
for the last three laps when these single above the
(07:44):
amputees would be catching me. Up and so you, KNOW
i knew that as long AS i could put that,
together and all the Training tony had put me through
and the tutoring By wayne on the, track you, know
we were quietly confident THAT i could do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Something and so once you'd won your silver, medal then
you didn't really carry on for much longer with the
with the. Cycling after, THAT i guess you moved onto
your new, challenge which was trying to get to the
top Of, everest among other. Things so did you ever consider, that,
Hey i'm quite good at, THIS i might carry on
with the.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Cycling, yeah but you need to understand that two thousand
was probably the last time you could be a really
an amateur athlete at The, paralympics you, know and especially you,
know if you're you, KNOW i was senior win maker
At montana at the, time and so you need cyclings
that sort of the sport where you have to put
(08:36):
the miles, in and those miles cost, hours and SO
i tried to keep the training up til two thousand
and one went to The World championships In, zurich you,
know and just bombed.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Out you. Know it's just everyone else had just got
so much.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Better you, know the leagues That Wayne alexander AND i
had designed For sydney, people we had copied them and
were starting to use. Those so you lost a lot
of your dark horse. Advantage so it was Once i'd
seen that THAT i really needed to focus on other.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Things how long did it take after your amputation to
accept the cards that you've been dealt and to start focusing.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Forward, well because we had to lie in hospital and
watch our feet right for that month before we had
the amputation On Christmas eve in eighty. Two you sort
of get through all of that, before and so when
you wake up On Christmas, day you, know and the
sheets end halfway down the, bed that's the time to,
(09:37):
start it really.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Is and so we've done a lot of that. Processing
it's still still really. Hard you, know it's still damn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Hard but you, know if you're gonna have your legs
cut off at twenty, three then the best person to
do it too is a young.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Mountaineer you. KNOW i was a professional, mountaineer and you,
know you're you live in an.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Environment where if you make the right move you might,
die and so you have that ability to focus and
that's what you know able to bring along to this new. Situation,
really and so it wasn't about, oh never climb. Again
it's just, like when CAN i climb? Again you, Know
and there was a frustration about climbing too, slow which
is WHY i stepped away into the cycling and the
(10:20):
skiing and then stepped straight back Into it takes, time,
Yep i'm still. Learning it's you.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Know. Yeah were there times, though that were particularly challenging
where you thought to, yourself this just isn't. Fair why
has this happened to?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Me not, really because in a lot of, cases you,
know because we sat in an ice cave for thirteen
and a half days and it was like your Own
Discovery channel program on frostbite playing at the end of your.
Feet you, know it was just LIKE i was a trained,
paramedic you, know you knew exactly what was. Happening you're
making decisions not to get, hypothermia but to accept, frostbite you,
(10:56):
know because frostbite doesn't kill, you hypothermia. Does and so
all of, that all of that processing was going. On
it would be much much harder if you out racing
on a motorbike and you wake up in hospital the
next day and you're a double mputee or a car
accident or you, know many of these other things that
you just patently.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Unfair but in many, ways we.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Put Ourselves phil AND i into a position where we
got stuck on the top of cock and and you
know they are the cars that you're being.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Dealt what takes that most of your time these?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Days, OH i mixed the.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Things i'm here In wellington at the moment at The
Trails forum for The New Zealand Cycle. Trails So i'm
the trail manager for The Saint. James Great ride's got
a new, bridge come and ride and it's right down
at one end of the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Continue it's a real mountain bike. Adventure you, know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It's not paved in, gold it's it's, yeah, yeah bring
your a game to The Saint.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
James and that's about half my.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Time the other half is either traveling and doing motivational
work with corporates around the world and. Communities plus our
Charities limbs For, all so we work In cambodia where we,
educate help educate children with, disabilities make education accessible for.
Them That's limbs For. All they're a variety of other.
(12:15):
Charities one of the exciting ones in the last three
while that's been tying up a lot of time is
The Soldier's block In. Hamnah so we've set up a charitable,
trust The Queen Mary Historic Reserve charitable. Trust we've renovated
the Old soldier's, block so almost three point six million
dropped into. That already phenomenal because it's the heart Of Hemnah,
(12:38):
springs WHERE i, live but it's also the heart of
so much of our post war. Recovery was built in
nineteen sixteen and then of course it Became New zealand's
premier year drug and alcohol, rehabilitation and so you, know
there's just so many PLACES i go In New zealand
that people will, go, OH i spent six weeks At.
(13:00):
Hamnah you, know it's like it, really it's nationally important
and Very, excitingly we've been working with the team here
In wellington Called Whetta, workshops and we're going to be
installing over the next couple of, years once we raise
a few more, dollars a really immersive experience that will
tell about the darkness and of the horror of, war
(13:24):
of the challenge of dependency on drugs and. Alcohol but
then it will also show that the incredible healing process
that comes out of.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It you, know it's called From darkness To. Light where's
like super.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Excited there's not a day when there's, nothing you, know
when there's not anything going.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
On i'm not very good at, holidays fining not very
good at, Holidays.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
LIKE i can, TELL i just have to read YOUR
cv for. That can we circle back to two thousand
just to. Finish were you naked when you cross the finish?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Line i'm pretty sure That, tony my coach, said if
you don't faint or vomit going over the finish, line
don't come.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Home you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Know SO i fell off my, bike but that was
about yeah and so oh, yeah, yeah you're. Naked but
then you have to go through that process OF i
had three cups.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Of coffee that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Morning AM i going to be over the? Caffeine because
in two thousand caffeine was a restricted, drug you? Know
And i'd worked out you could have four short blacks
you know before the. Ride Now i'd had, three and
AM i going to go? Over? BEFORE i have to
have my pea in a? Bottle and so you're, naked
but there's all these other things going. On it's a phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Experience i'll never take the silver medal away from, You,
mark one of many amazing things that you've. Done lovely
to see, you, Mate thanks for stopping in and all
the best for what lies. Ahead thank You Mark ingeles
our very First paralympic cycling medallist twenty five years. Ago Next,
Saturday october, eighteen the year two thousand when he claimed
silver in the kilo time trial just one, of AS i,
(14:52):
say many amazing things That mark has. Done great to
have me here in studio with.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
This year marks the twenty fifth anniversary of the Sydney
Paralympic Games. Forty two Kiwis represented New Zealand at those
Games and brought home eighteen medals, including our first ever
Paralympic medal in cycling, when Paralympian number one two four
mark Ingalls claimed silver in the kiloh time trial. Eighteen
(00:34):
years previously, in November nineteen eighty two, at the age
of twenty three, had been stuck in a snow cave
on Odaki Mount Cook for thirteen days because of an
intense blizzard and had both his legs amputated below the knee.
After he was rescued, his passion for the outdoors never
left him, though. He became a successful power alpine skier,
(00:55):
claiming several national and international medals, and later turned to
competitive cycling, representing New Zealand at the World Champs and
winning that historic silver medal at the two thousand Sydney
Paralympic Games. In two thousand and two, he was appointed
an Officer of the New Zealand Order of Merit for
services to People with disabilities. In two thousand and six,
(01:17):
he became the first ever double amputee to reach the
summit of Mount Everest. What a pleasure to welcome mark
Ingalls into the studio. Great to see him mate. One
week short of twenty five years since you won that
medal October eighteen, two thousand, it was Is it still vivid?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Oh? Very much?
Speaker 1 (01:38):
So?
Speaker 4 (01:38):
Yeah. I mean, well, you couldn't think of the better
place to have what we call it the Olympics, you know,
because it's the they have the practice event the few
weeks earlier, and they've got it right for us.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And when we turn up and you.
Speaker 4 (01:52):
Know, Sydney, what a phenomenal atmosphere, that whole city of
five million or a hair of many they have just
brought into the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was electric.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
He had been a very successful skier. What was it
about cycling that attracted you?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Because I wasn't that successful at skiing. Really it's you know,
it's for cycling. The one thing for a double mputee
is it allows you to have a really high cardiac
output without wrecking your stumps. And so I tried the
running thing and things like that. Skiing you really can
(02:29):
only do it in the winter here in New Zealand,
then you have to go overseas and had a young family,
so that wasn't working out. But if you've got a bike, yeah,
you can bike anywhere at any time. And you know,
back at Mount Cook in the day, back in the
late seventies and early eighties, we had some of the
first mountain bikes in New Zealand. We had ski guides
bringing them over from America. You know, so the very
(02:50):
first specialized stump jumpers and earn all these things, and
so we were happily riding around national parks. Well you're
still allowed to, yeah, And so cycling has always been
in the DNA.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
So once you took it up, was it always your
ambition You're aimed to be bloody good at it?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Well, yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
You know a bit of your attention deficit mail and
it's like if you're going to ride a bike there
and emails will ride it fast. And so initially I
hadn't discovered the Paralympic cycling. It was only once I'd
got into it for a few years when I was
doing a bit of technical mountain biking and the likes.
There was no mountain bike or Paralympic mountain biking, and
(03:35):
so I swapped back over to the road and then
got on the road bike and discovered that whole paralymp
you know. And we were ten years behind the rest
of the world here in New Zealand, you know, because
we are a long way from everywhere. There were professional
European Paralympic cyclists. All the big teams had a Paralympic
team as well, you know, the US, the UK, all
(03:59):
of Europe, even Australia was striding out in front of us.
So you know, it was what a fantastic opportunity.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
How long did it take you to get used to
riding on a vlodrome?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
The ten days before riding on my kilo to do
the training. I was senior wine maker at Montana and
Mulbre at the time, and our only training track was
the four hundred meter concrete track that was on the
outside of the running track, and so the steepest part
of that valodrome was flatter than the flattest part of
(04:37):
the valodrome and so I'd never written on boards. You know,
Poor Al Wayne that the team manager, when he saw
me going for my first lap around, you know, telling
me to go.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Up, go up, go up, and I'm getting there. I'm
getting there.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And I always remember he rang up Ron Cheatly, you know,
New Zealand's most famous cycle and track coach, and he said,
you know.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Ron, what am I going to do here? You know
I got this? You know I've got this country hick.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
He's never actually been on it, so it was it
was a bit of a learning experience for us all.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
So you went to Sydney, as I understand it, without
even an official time recorded over one thousand meters. Had
you never competed in this event before?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
No, not in the kilo, So you know I made
some I had some good wins and in the road cycling,
and that my advantage has always been as a double amputee,
you can get out of the settle and you can sprint,
so it means you can climb really well on road cycling,
or it means you can start really fast. So it
(05:39):
was no use me doing an individual pursuit. I'd be
able to do the first lap fast and everyone catches
you up. And so the selectors at the time took
a punt. They knew that I was writing really well.
An amazing coach Tony Kadderick from Blenham and you know
they put the faith in me and blindly entered me
(06:00):
in the kilo and you know it was like it
was made for me.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
So you're completely under the rate, unranked. So the way
this event works, as most people know, is that the
I guess, the faster riders go last, so you would
have been one of the first. You clocked one twenty
three point one six' nine and then what you just
have to sit and watch the rest of the field
and hope they don't go.
Speaker 4 (06:22):
Quicker it's amazing every TIME i see this happen on
Our olympic And paralympic. Coverage you, know you see that
person that's done a really fast say like toall To,
france you, know you see and the time, trials you
know that one guy is sitting in the hot seat
until someone goes. Faster it's like, ah you, know and
it was just watching, everyone you, know because, yeah it
(06:43):
was there were all of the fastest guys in the
world were coming after, me and it was just like
there was, one you, know the one that then all
of a sudden you've got a bronze. Medal you, know
it's like, sweet that's that's good for, me you. Know
and then you know the last, one and so that
Was Radovan, kaufman and you know he was a single
above the, amputee but that one leg he had that
(07:04):
had a lot Of slovenia beef in, it you, know
look like a. Powerpole and as soon as he as
soon as he lit, OFF i knew that he would
come close or beat.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Me. Yep silver must still have been, special, though because
what were your expectations going and did you expect to
be on the.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Podium, oh definitely. Not you, know, well, no that's.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Wrong you're not competing in something if you don't want to,
win of, course you, know and you don't compete in.
Something AND i knew that in my, TRAINING i had
ridden the first lap faster than the world record for
the first, lap but you know it was unofficially. TIMED
i knew that IF i could just hang in there
for the last three laps when these single above the
(07:44):
amputees would be catching me. Up and so you, KNOW
i knew that as long AS i could put that,
together and all the Training tony had put me through
and the tutoring By wayne on the, track you, know
we were quietly confident THAT i could do.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Something and so once you'd won your silver, medal then
you didn't really carry on for much longer with the
with the. Cycling after, THAT i guess you moved onto
your new, challenge which was trying to get to the
top Of, everest among other. Things so did you ever consider, that,
Hey i'm quite good at, THIS i might carry on
with the.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Cycling, yeah but you need to understand that two thousand
was probably the last time you could be a really
an amateur athlete at The, paralympics you, know and especially you,
know if you're you, KNOW i was senior win maker
At montana at the, time and so you need cyclings
that sort of the sport where you have to put
(08:36):
the miles, in and those miles cost, hours and SO
i tried to keep the training up til two thousand
and one went to The World championships In, zurich you,
know and just bombed.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Out you. Know it's just everyone else had just got
so much.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
Better you, know the leagues That Wayne alexander AND i
had designed For sydney, people we had copied them and
were starting to use. Those so you lost a lot
of your dark horse. Advantage so it was Once i'd
seen that THAT i really needed to focus on other.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Things how long did it take after your amputation to
accept the cards that you've been dealt and to start focusing.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Forward, well because we had to lie in hospital and
watch our feet right for that month before we had
the amputation On Christmas eve in eighty. Two you sort
of get through all of that, before and so when
you wake up On Christmas, day you, know and the
sheets end halfway down the, bed that's the time to,
(09:37):
start it really.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Is and so we've done a lot of that. Processing
it's still still really. Hard you, know it's still damn.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Hard but you, know if you're gonna have your legs
cut off at twenty, three then the best person to
do it too is a young.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
Mountaineer you. KNOW i was a professional, mountaineer and you,
know you're you live in an.
Speaker 4 (09:58):
Environment where if you make the right move you might,
die and so you have that ability to focus and
that's what you know able to bring along to this new. Situation,
really and so it wasn't about, oh never climb. Again
it's just, like when CAN i climb? Again you, Know
and there was a frustration about climbing too, slow which
is WHY i stepped away into the cycling and the
(10:20):
skiing and then stepped straight back Into it takes, time,
Yep i'm still. Learning it's you.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Know. Yeah were there times, though that were particularly challenging
where you thought to, yourself this just isn't. Fair why
has this happened to?
Speaker 4 (10:33):
Me not, really because in a lot of, cases you,
know because we sat in an ice cave for thirteen
and a half days and it was like your Own
Discovery channel program on frostbite playing at the end of your.
Feet you, know it was just LIKE i was a trained,
paramedic you, know you knew exactly what was. Happening you're
making decisions not to get, hypothermia but to accept, frostbite you,
(10:56):
know because frostbite doesn't kill, you hypothermia. Does and so
all of, that all of that processing was going. On
it would be much much harder if you out racing
on a motorbike and you wake up in hospital the
next day and you're a double mputee or a car
accident or you, know many of these other things that
you just patently.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Unfair but in many, ways we.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Put Ourselves phil AND i into a position where we
got stuck on the top of cock and and you
know they are the cars that you're being.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Dealt what takes that most of your time these?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Days, OH i mixed the.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Things i'm here In wellington at the moment at The
Trails forum for The New Zealand Cycle. Trails So i'm
the trail manager for The Saint. James Great ride's got
a new, bridge come and ride and it's right down
at one end of the.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Continue it's a real mountain bike. Adventure you, know.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
It's not paved in, gold it's it's, yeah, yeah bring
your a game to The Saint.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
James and that's about half my.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Time the other half is either traveling and doing motivational
work with corporates around the world and. Communities plus our
Charities limbs For, all so we work In cambodia where we,
educate help educate children with, disabilities make education accessible for.
Them That's limbs For. All they're a variety of other.
(12:15):
Charities one of the exciting ones in the last three
while that's been tying up a lot of time is
The Soldier's block In. Hamnah so we've set up a charitable,
trust The Queen Mary Historic Reserve charitable. Trust we've renovated
the Old soldier's, block so almost three point six million
dropped into. That already phenomenal because it's the heart Of Hemnah,
(12:38):
springs WHERE i, live but it's also the heart of
so much of our post war. Recovery was built in
nineteen sixteen and then of course it Became New zealand's
premier year drug and alcohol, rehabilitation and so you, know
there's just so many PLACES i go In New zealand
that people will, go, OH i spent six weeks At.
(13:00):
Hamnah you, know it's like it, really it's nationally important
and Very, excitingly we've been working with the team here
In wellington Called Whetta, workshops and we're going to be
installing over the next couple of, years once we raise
a few more, dollars a really immersive experience that will
tell about the darkness and of the horror of, war
(13:24):
of the challenge of dependency on drugs and. Alcohol but
then it will also show that the incredible healing process
that comes out of.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It you, know it's called From darkness To. Light where's
like super.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
Excited there's not a day when there's, nothing you, know
when there's not anything going.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
On i'm not very good at, holidays fining not very
good at, Holidays.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
LIKE i can, TELL i just have to read YOUR
cv for. That can we circle back to two thousand
just to. Finish were you naked when you cross the finish?
Speaker 4 (13:51):
Line i'm pretty sure That, tony my coach, said if
you don't faint or vomit going over the finish, line
don't come.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
Home you.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Know SO i fell off my, bike but that was
about yeah and so oh, yeah, yeah you're. Naked but
then you have to go through that process OF i
had three cups.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
Of coffee that.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Morning AM i going to be over the? Caffeine because
in two thousand caffeine was a restricted, drug you? Know
And i'd worked out you could have four short blacks
you know before the. Ride Now i'd had, three and
AM i going to go? Over? BEFORE i have to
have my pea in a? Bottle and so you're, naked
but there's all these other things going. On it's a phenomenal.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Experience i'll never take the silver medal away from, You,
mark one of many amazing things that you've. Done lovely
to see, you, Mate thanks for stopping in and all
the best for what lies. Ahead thank You Mark ingeles
our very First paralympic cycling medallist twenty five years. Ago Next,
Saturday october, eighteen the year two thousand when he claimed
silver in the kilo time trial just one, of AS i,
(14:52):
say many amazing things That mark has. Done great to
have me here in studio with.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
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