November 7, 2025 • 8 mins
The Black Caps escaped a late West Indies charge to win the second T20 cricket international of the five-match series by three runs in Auckland.
The hosts made 207 for five – Mark Chapman excelled with 78 off 28 balls and three catches.
The visitors were struggling at 93 for six in the 13th over, but a flurry saw them require 16 off the last.
Chapman joined Piney to discuss his performance.
“It was just one of those days where the ball seemed to find the middle of the bat and you're just enjoying yourselves.”
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Edb Caps and Westernis have relocated to Nilsen for Games
three and four in their five match T twenty International
cricket series. The black Caps square the series on Thursday
night with a three run victory at Eden Park. Mark
Chapman seventy eight off twenty eight balls and three catches
the man of the match.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's it hard. You won't get that either, And that's
fifty for Chapman.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What at fifty two? He's bought it up off nineteen balls.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a your eight. No, it's our.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Folly has been plumked in to the boundary goes after that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And that's going to be six more. That's gonna go all.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The way to six more.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Over back with square. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What an innings from Mark Chapman seventy eight off twenty
eight balls. Mark, let's start with that innings of yours.
It's obviously coming off the bat. Okay, how do you
reflect on your innings on Thursday night?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I mean yeah, it was just one of those days
where the ball seemed to find the middle of the
bat and you're just enjoying yourselves and you're just trying
to try to keep it on for as long as
you can really, But yeah, it was good fun, good
to get a match running score on the end of
the team.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You did look a bit annoyed when you got out.
I guess that's natural when you're batting well. But did
you feel like there were more runs out there for you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess when you're going like that,
you just want it to carry on as long as
you can. Yeah, we're just having fun out.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
There, Daryl and I.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We're enjoying ourselves and yeah it's nice to put the
West Indies boys under a bit of pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
In T twenty cricket, you don't often get the chance
do You're to bat with someone for a long time.
Partnerships might only be three or four overs, But even
in that shorter time, are partnerships still quite important in
this form of the game.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you know, something that's really important
is communicating with your partner around. You know which sort
of bowler to target, or you know whether you're feeling
a certain sort of end that you prefer or a
certain style of bowling. So yeah, I think you know
it's it's probably underestimated and Tease twenty cricket how important
the partnership actually is and just communicating with your partner
(02:27):
on that, Yeah, super important.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What about coming in mark and pretty much going from
ball one? Is there an acquired skill to that to
being able to play run scoring strokes pretty much immediately?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, I guess the benefit of sort of not i's
not opening is you get to have a lock at
at you know what's happening up the top, and then
I guess you get a pretty good feel for things
straight away. And sometimes you can you can sort of
get the pace of a wicket within a few balls
at times, but sometimes it can take a bit longer.
(03:01):
So yeah, I guess it's just being really clear on
the risks that you take and stack them in your favor.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
How much has the way you bat personally in T
twenty changed during your now well over a decade playing
this form of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I've always tried to have,
you know, like a high intent when of that. Yeah,
I guess, you know, you sort of evolve in your
style of play, but it's making sure that you really
embrace your strengths and understand you know your own individual
style of play.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think for me, I've become a lot clearer in
that as i've got a little bit older.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But I guess you know, these days, you know, scores
are a little bit higher, so it's just making sure
that you're attacking instincts at the four when you're playing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Have you found that you have increased your scoring areas
or have you just become more efficient than the ones
that were good anyway? I mean, for example, does your
wagon wheel still look the same as it always did
or are there new places you're scoring runs now?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't really think so, to be honest, I think
it's just it's sticking to your strengths. I guess for me,
being someone who is probably a little bit smaller in stature,
probably get slightly slightly more square of the wicket. But
I also backed myself to hit down the ground as well,
so you know, I've always had the sort of scoops
and things like that as well. So I'll probably call
(04:26):
on those less than I used to because I was
trying to back myself with my Plan A.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
But you've still got to have your Plan B and
your Plan C as well.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So two o seven the other night at the innings break,
did that feel like enough?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To be honest, that Eden Park, you never feel like
you have enough. Yeah, no matter no matter how many
you get. You know, obviously with some of the dimensions,
the chasing team is always in the game. And to
be honest, the West Indies batting lineup is pretty deep
and as we saw last night, was one of the
most explosive and powerful batting lineups and wort of crickets.
(05:00):
So you know, even even when they needed ninety runs
at three a ball, you know, with sort of knew
that they went out of the game just because the
power they possessed. So, I mean, we're we're well aware
of that threat and so we're trying to mitigate that
as much as we can.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
How though, how do you mitigate it? How do you
defend a ground like that?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I think I guess it was obvious to see that,
you know, if we didn't quite execute our plan that
you know, the ball was going to sail over the ropes.
But I think you know, one thing that the bowlers
did amazingly well is that as they tried to stay
ahead of the game around not.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Being too predictable with what they bowled.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sometimes if you get set in one plan and and
you mess, it's it's just a matter of messing by
a few inches and the ball will go over the ropes. So,
you know, I guess from from a bowling point of view,
it was really encouraging to see how proactive the bowlers
were and and you know how they backed themselves. You know,
Kyle at the end there to both three slow balls
in a row to close a game out. There's probably
(06:01):
something that we don't see that often, but you know,
it's amazing to see that he just backed that skill
and executed and you know, won the game for us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And speaking of backing skills, your skills in the field
three catches, one particularly eye catching one and the deep
there's fielding something you take pride in terms of catching
but also saving runs.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, well, you know, I guess, you know, for us
as a team, it's a it's a really good metric
on how we're going if we're if we're have energy
in the field and you know, and we're throwing ourselves around.
Not to say that we're going to take every single
chance that presents itself, but you know, more often than not.
If we're looking for the ball and trying to be
as aggressive as we can in the field, then you know,
(06:41):
that's a really good metric for us as a team.
And you know we've been working hard on that behind
the scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And there's a World Cup not too far away in
this format early twenty twenty six. Are you, personally and
as a team now building towards that World Cup? Pretty
much every time you play a game of T twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you know people have been
mentioning the World Cup, but you know, between now and
our first game, we've got a lot of cricket to
be played.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So to be honest, our focus is firmly here.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
We've got an exciting series on our hands, you know,
one all against the West Indies boys. We've got back
to back games here at Nelson and then finish off
in Duned and so you know that's fairmly at the
front of our minds. And yeah, we will shift our
focus when when's appropriate for the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, wonderful spot Nelson. I don't think you've played, personally,
Mark ahicck of a lot of international cricket there. I
think a T twenty in a one day perhaps is
all you've you've played there, looking forward to a couple
of games at Sexton's.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, it's a beautiful ground. Yeah, I think we had.
I had a T twenty here against Lanka last year
and it was a sellout. So you know we're expecting
the same. You know, the crowd will really turn up
and you know, hopefully they can see some exciting cricket.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, let's hope. So Hey, thanks for joining us, Marke,
congrats on a great endings the other night. All the
beast for the rest of.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
The series, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Thanks Jason, No, thank you Mark, Mark Chapman. They're out
of the black Caps so one all were three games
to go. The next tour in Nelson is mentioned tomorrow
at one fifteen and then Monday at one fifteen. The
fifth and final game of the T twenty series is
in Dunedin on Thursday, also one fifteen start. Then it's
three One Day Internationals in christ Church, Napier and Hamilton
(08:19):
on November sixteen, nineteen and twenty two. And then they
put the white sign and get the red ball out
for three Test matches in December December two to sixth
and christ Church December ten to fourteen and Wellington and
eighteen to twenty two at Mount Monganui, so plenty of
cricket to come before Christmas between the black Caps and
the West Indies.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Edb Caps and Westernis have relocated to Nilsen for Games
three and four in their five match T twenty International
cricket series. The black Caps square the series on Thursday
night with a three run victory at Eden Park. Mark
Chapman seventy eight off twenty eight balls and three catches
the man of the match.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
That's it hard. You won't get that either, And that's
fifty for Chapman.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What at fifty two? He's bought it up off nineteen balls.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
It's a your eight. No, it's our.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Folly has been plumked in to the boundary goes after that.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And that's going to be six more. That's gonna go all.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The way to six more.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Over back with square. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
What an innings from Mark Chapman seventy eight off twenty
eight balls. Mark, let's start with that innings of yours.
It's obviously coming off the bat. Okay, how do you
reflect on your innings on Thursday night?
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I mean yeah, it was just one of those days
where the ball seemed to find the middle of the
bat and you're just enjoying yourselves and you're just trying
to try to keep it on for as long as
you can really, But yeah, it was good fun, good
to get a match running score on the end of
the team.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
You did look a bit annoyed when you got out.
I guess that's natural when you're batting well. But did
you feel like there were more runs out there for you?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, I mean, I guess when you're going like that,
you just want it to carry on as long as
you can. Yeah, we're just having fun out.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
There, Daryl and I.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
We're enjoying ourselves and yeah it's nice to put the
West Indies boys under a bit of pressure.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
In T twenty cricket, you don't often get the chance
do You're to bat with someone for a long time.
Partnerships might only be three or four overs, But even
in that shorter time, are partnerships still quite important in
this form of the game.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, absolutely, I think you know, something that's really important
is communicating with your partner around. You know which sort
of bowler to target, or you know whether you're feeling
a certain sort of end that you prefer or a
certain style of bowling. So yeah, I think you know
it's it's probably underestimated and Tease twenty cricket how important
the partnership actually is and just communicating with your partner
(02:27):
on that, Yeah, super important.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
What about coming in mark and pretty much going from
ball one? Is there an acquired skill to that to
being able to play run scoring strokes pretty much immediately?
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Well, I guess the benefit of sort of not i's
not opening is you get to have a lock at
at you know what's happening up the top, and then
I guess you get a pretty good feel for things
straight away. And sometimes you can you can sort of
get the pace of a wicket within a few balls
at times, but sometimes it can take a bit longer.
(03:01):
So yeah, I guess it's just being really clear on
the risks that you take and stack them in your favor.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
How much has the way you bat personally in T
twenty changed during your now well over a decade playing
this form of the game.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I've always tried to have,
you know, like a high intent when of that. Yeah,
I guess, you know, you sort of evolve in your
style of play, but it's making sure that you really
embrace your strengths and understand you know your own individual
style of play.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
I think for me, I've become a lot clearer in
that as i've got a little bit older.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
But I guess you know, these days, you know, scores
are a little bit higher, so it's just making sure
that you're attacking instincts at the four when you're playing.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Have you found that you have increased your scoring areas
or have you just become more efficient than the ones
that were good anyway? I mean, for example, does your
wagon wheel still look the same as it always did
or are there new places you're scoring runs now?
Speaker 4 (04:06):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
I don't really think so, to be honest, I think
it's just it's sticking to your strengths. I guess for me,
being someone who is probably a little bit smaller in stature,
probably get slightly slightly more square of the wicket. But
I also backed myself to hit down the ground as well,
so you know, I've always had the sort of scoops
and things like that as well. So I'll probably call
(04:26):
on those less than I used to because I was
trying to back myself with my Plan A.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
But you've still got to have your Plan B and
your Plan C as well.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
So two o seven the other night at the innings break,
did that feel like enough?
Speaker 3 (04:39):
To be honest, that Eden Park, you never feel like
you have enough. Yeah, no matter no matter how many
you get. You know, obviously with some of the dimensions,
the chasing team is always in the game. And to
be honest, the West Indies batting lineup is pretty deep
and as we saw last night, was one of the
most explosive and powerful batting lineups and wort of crickets.
(05:00):
So you know, even even when they needed ninety runs
at three a ball, you know, with sort of knew
that they went out of the game just because the
power they possessed. So, I mean, we're we're well aware
of that threat and so we're trying to mitigate that
as much as we can.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
How though, how do you mitigate it? How do you
defend a ground like that?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Well, I think I guess it was obvious to see that,
you know, if we didn't quite execute our plan that
you know, the ball was going to sail over the ropes.
But I think you know, one thing that the bowlers
did amazingly well is that as they tried to stay
ahead of the game around not.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Being too predictable with what they bowled.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Sometimes if you get set in one plan and and
you mess, it's it's just a matter of messing by
a few inches and the ball will go over the ropes. So,
you know, I guess from from a bowling point of view,
it was really encouraging to see how proactive the bowlers
were and and you know how they backed themselves. You know,
Kyle at the end there to both three slow balls
in a row to close a game out. There's probably
(06:01):
something that we don't see that often, but you know,
it's amazing to see that he just backed that skill
and executed and you know, won the game for us.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
And speaking of backing skills, your skills in the field
three catches, one particularly eye catching one and the deep
there's fielding something you take pride in terms of catching
but also saving runs.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Yeah, well, you know, I guess, you know, for us
as a team, it's a it's a really good metric
on how we're going if we're if we're have energy
in the field and you know, and we're throwing ourselves around.
Not to say that we're going to take every single
chance that presents itself, but you know, more often than not.
If we're looking for the ball and trying to be
as aggressive as we can in the field, then you know,
(06:41):
that's a really good metric for us as a team.
And you know we've been working hard on that behind
the scenes.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
And there's a World Cup not too far away in
this format early twenty twenty six. Are you, personally and
as a team now building towards that World Cup? Pretty
much every time you play a game of T twenty.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Yeah, I mean, I guess you know people have been
mentioning the World Cup, but you know, between now and
our first game, we've got a lot of cricket to
be played.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
So to be honest, our focus is firmly here.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
We've got an exciting series on our hands, you know,
one all against the West Indies boys. We've got back
to back games here at Nelson and then finish off
in Duned and so you know that's fairmly at the
front of our minds. And yeah, we will shift our
focus when when's appropriate for the World Cup.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Yeah, wonderful spot Nelson. I don't think you've played, personally,
Mark ahicck of a lot of international cricket there. I
think a T twenty in a one day perhaps is
all you've you've played there, looking forward to a couple
of games at Sexton's.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, it's a beautiful ground. Yeah, I think we had.
I had a T twenty here against Lanka last year
and it was a sellout. So you know we're expecting
the same. You know, the crowd will really turn up
and you know, hopefully they can see some exciting cricket.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Yeah, let's hope. So Hey, thanks for joining us, Marke,
congrats on a great endings the other night. All the
beast for the rest of.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
The series, brilliant.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
Thanks Jason, No, thank you Mark, Mark Chapman. They're out
of the black Caps so one all were three games
to go. The next tour in Nelson is mentioned tomorrow
at one fifteen and then Monday at one fifteen. The
fifth and final game of the T twenty series is
in Dunedin on Thursday, also one fifteen start. Then it's
three One Day Internationals in christ Church, Napier and Hamilton
(08:19):
on November sixteen, nineteen and twenty two. And then they
put the white sign and get the red ball out
for three Test matches in December December two to sixth
and christ Church December ten to fourteen and Wellington and
eighteen to twenty two at Mount Monganui, so plenty of
cricket to come before Christmas between the black Caps and
the West Indies.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Fine, listen live
to news Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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