James McOnie from The Crowd Goes Wild joined Piney to discuss the All Blacks' victory over Scotland, the A-League derby and the Pacific Championships final.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from NEWSTALKSB but that James Maconey, would you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, it's right, Yeah, there's all I mean, look how
many spoilers we are we looking after here? You know?
Like I think for movies it's fair, but for live sport,
when you're listening to a sports show, I don't think
you can ask the host to have no spoilers. Sorry, yeah,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Given away the ending. Yeah, you haven't given by the
ending to six cents or anything like that, have I?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Exactly? Yeah, it's right if you Yeah, we're not going
to give away the end, the twist and sixtent, so
you're saved out there, but you might give a cricket score, okay,
so yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Did you think there was going to be a twist
in the All Blacks Scotland game? Did you think that
Scotland might finally get that elusive victory this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, there was a way that third quarter with the
Scottish attack what I would describe as high octane one
out running. Where look when they when they lift the
tempo like that, I think it's hard for any team
to withstand that. But the All Blacks. I thought they
showed a lot of resolve, though super plucky on defense.
The way that when they did come in waves that
(01:18):
you know, some of our defense, some of the tackles
from Larkie wallas Att while he was on there, and
others in the forwards as well, I just thought was
really impressive. And I think when our razor talks about moments,
and I think all your callers have talked about several
of those moments, and the ones that stand out for
(01:38):
me were the turnovers from Larki and Lester fining, the mukoup,
the trysaver from Cameroy guard and then those those three
moments from Damien McKenzie who won us the game.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, no moments and amongst an earty minute game year,
it's being on Those are the things we talk about
and the things that are so integral that fifty twenty two.
I know we see the most games, right, there's a
fifty twenty two in a lot of rugby games, but
just win that fifty two twenty two came and I
think the demoralizing effect it had on Scotland sort of
(02:11):
nearing the end of that game was was pretty key.
Was and I think that was the key moment.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, I think so too, And it looked like a
set play to me. It looked like they didn't want
to cross the halfway line, therefore giving McKenzie the opportunity
to kick the fifty twenty two. Of course, there's not
that far the actual to be able to kick those.
I've seen them kicked by accident. Peter o'mony at sky
Stadium in Wellington springs to mind an accidental fifty twenty two.
(02:38):
So dmac was back on the ten meter, but landing
it so close to the Scottish goal line was an
absolute dagger and I applaud him he drew up that
play because it did look really deliberate and dmac's contortionist,
you know, like honestly, it was like something out of
Circus Lay And I mean, I don't want to get
(02:58):
into my dating history, but there was this one. No anyway,
it was like there was. It was an impressive finish.
I haven't seen anything more like that in a big Test.
Just two players sort of swatted aside as he sort
of slammed it behind his back. That was massive and
also a substitute winning man in the match. You hardly
(03:22):
ever see it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, it was a performance to be proud of for
Damien McKenzie, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Before we move on, I didn't notice that one of
your listeners was saying maybe the theme song for the
All Blacks should be Yellow by Coldplay, and I have
pens and lyrics if you'd like to hear it listens
for that listener, I'd love to dedications.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes, absolutely, here we go.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Look at the card, the ones the ref shows you
for all the sins that you do, and they were
all yellow. You tripped the guy collapse, the mall or
two slap down a past day through and you got
show yellow.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That is utterly brilliant, utterly bro I just I just
know that's what we're going to be hearing on Craig
goes well tomorrow night, surely or is it just is
it just for us?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's just for me? You do you want exclusive?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
There'll be exclusive.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'm so proud to get it. That's magnificent stuff. I'll
let him know tomorrow morning on the I'll let them
know tomorrow morning on the ten past eight Commentary Box
and say hey, hey, Mike, I've got a little song
for you.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Love it speaking of yellow and yellow fever segue there
for you. Do you think the Phoenix will level win
one of these derbies?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yes they will. I thought they were pretty impressive. I've
never heard the term high line mentioned so many times
in commentary, Pinety, but you're definitely. If you're playing a
drinking game where you mentioned high line, I think there'll
be a few inebriated spectators, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, but it's some. It is a talking point, isn't it,
especially when you when the high line lets you down
after twenty eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And it is it's a danger, right, this is the
whole thing. And it's happened to them again. I mean,
well it happened against Perth and now we see it.
And of course what we're talking about is where the
defense are pretty much forcing the issue, standing a bit
further forward than they normally would that defensive line. And
I don't know, Yes, it puts a bit of pressure
on but I'll tell you what, it leads gaps, and
(05:31):
I think that it has to stop the high line
once they get or they come up with a compromise.
Because they scored an absolute beauty of a goal. You
can tell. I mean Where did they find this Nigerian striker?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, incredible. You know his last club was in Iraq.
You've got to love football to play football in Iraq.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's what he's played for. All the Ols. You know
that our every club begins with OL. You know, call
me OL. So I mean the one thing with the
Phoenix that I think. And you've got Steve Carriker, I
think coming up, I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He no, no, he's up after two.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He's a stern fellow and I think a bit a
fair factor helps when it comes down to closing out
big games like that. And I mean chief he is lovely,
lovely man, but you know there's there's that and also
just leadership, and that's where how Aukan they see based.
Their team had Orki Sakai, a few others, a few
key people that they got in there the strata. We
(06:33):
sort of solidify their team. Whereas I think Wellington, apart
from Alex Rufer, there's always a bit of a bit
of a movable feast and once they settle on that,
I think it's a fair fight. Right now, I look
forward to the to the rematch, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
A couple of red cards shown last night Steve Corriker
didn't agree with the first one. I'll ask him why
after two. I think the logan Rogerson won, there's no
intense but the outcomers he's he's landed as studs halfway up.
Lucas Kelly healed shin. That was always going to be
a red, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I think so. The one issue I have with
with red in the A leaguers. They're shown very easily
to the New Zealand teams, but I've seen pretty much
a shoulder charge it would be a sin but at
least in most in either rugby code, and the player
just wanders around like it is no big deal, you know,
and they and they say it's shoulders, the shoulder, and
it's like, that's not really what the law is intended.
(07:25):
It doesn't mean you can come in and absolutely take
someone out. So I find that the physicality, yes, I
mean you're right studs. When the studs are up and
they and they really do some damage, then yes, But
I mean there's a lot of stuff that happens in
football where you know it is accidental, there's no malice intended,
and then sometimes the red card just comes.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Out just before you go, Key, We's tour some more
tonight in the Pacific Championship Rugby League Final. Could this
be quite close? It could be quite close. Could some
more won't this?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent they could. They blew it last time. Really,
I think it was Dean narrow and to put down
a pretty sharp ball. Had a bit of source on
it really from Blaze to Lungey. But this is the
whole thing. I think even Brian Tall had a chance
in the dying stages of the early game. Amount smart,
I mean, some more do. That's a star studded team,
(08:22):
so even those players have just mentioned there, you've got
premiership winners with recent premiership winners, You've got Roger Tuvass
paying houses in there like that, there's no weak links
because even if you look at your house, combine combo
with Jerome Lewy joining Blaize to Lungey, it's just really
nice team to watch and so I think it will
(08:43):
be an entertaining game. But the one wonder thing about
the Kiwis is they seem to be They've got a
really tough heart to the team and the spine seems
to be operating just well enough. Phoenix Crossland will be
in at Hoker, which has always been a little bit
of a problem position over the years for the for
the Kiwis and you know Karan Furran just hanging on.
(09:06):
But look, for example, if Jarromes Hughes was fit, I'd say, hey,
we're winning this, but right now it looks like it
could be very close. I haven't written a song for
this one, sorry, Poney, but I'm definitely worth a look
At six pm.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
On Sky what could I request a song about Wellington's
Highline to the tune of Back in the High Life
Again by Steve Winwood? Would you be able to come
up with something? I'm not straight away, but maybe next week.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, I'm happy to do that and quite in speaking
of quite a high voice, Steve when would say, asking
a lot of me piney, but I'm happy to deliver.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay, love it, James, always good chatting mate, James mcconey,
big part of our Sundays.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine. Listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Weekend Sport podcast with Jason Vine
from NEWSTALKSB but that James Maconey, would you.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Yes, it's right, Yeah, there's all I mean, look how
many spoilers we are we looking after here? You know?
Like I think for movies it's fair, but for live sport,
when you're listening to a sports show, I don't think
you can ask the host to have no spoilers. Sorry, yeah,
I haven't.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
Given away the ending. Yeah, you haven't given by the
ending to six cents or anything like that, have I?
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Exactly? Yeah, it's right if you Yeah, we're not going
to give away the end, the twist and sixtent, so
you're saved out there, but you might give a cricket score, okay,
so yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Did you think there was going to be a twist
in the All Blacks Scotland game? Did you think that
Scotland might finally get that elusive victory this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Well, there was a way that third quarter with the
Scottish attack what I would describe as high octane one
out running. Where look when they when they lift the
tempo like that, I think it's hard for any team
to withstand that. But the All Blacks. I thought they
showed a lot of resolve, though super plucky on defense.
The way that when they did come in waves that
(01:18):
you know, some of our defense, some of the tackles
from Larkie wallas Att while he was on there, and
others in the forwards as well, I just thought was
really impressive. And I think when our razor talks about moments,
and I think all your callers have talked about several
of those moments, and the ones that stand out for
(01:38):
me were the turnovers from Larki and Lester fining, the mukoup,
the trysaver from Cameroy guard and then those those three
moments from Damien McKenzie who won us the game.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
Yeah, yeah, no moments and amongst an earty minute game year,
it's being on Those are the things we talk about
and the things that are so integral that fifty twenty two.
I know we see the most games, right, there's a
fifty twenty two in a lot of rugby games, but
just win that fifty two twenty two came and I
think the demoralizing effect it had on Scotland sort of
(02:11):
nearing the end of that game was was pretty key.
Was and I think that was the key moment.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Yeah, I think so too, And it looked like a
set play to me. It looked like they didn't want
to cross the halfway line, therefore giving McKenzie the opportunity
to kick the fifty twenty two. Of course, there's not
that far the actual to be able to kick those.
I've seen them kicked by accident. Peter o'mony at sky
Stadium in Wellington springs to mind an accidental fifty twenty two.
(02:38):
So dmac was back on the ten meter, but landing
it so close to the Scottish goal line was an
absolute dagger and I applaud him he drew up that
play because it did look really deliberate and dmac's contortionist,
you know, like honestly, it was like something out of
Circus Lay And I mean, I don't want to get
(02:58):
into my dating history, but there was this one. No anyway,
it was like there was. It was an impressive finish.
I haven't seen anything more like that in a big Test.
Just two players sort of swatted aside as he sort
of slammed it behind his back. That was massive and
also a substitute winning man in the match. You hardly
(03:22):
ever see it.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, it was a performance to be proud of for
Damien McKenzie, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Before we move on, I didn't notice that one of
your listeners was saying maybe the theme song for the
All Blacks should be Yellow by Coldplay, and I have
pens and lyrics if you'd like to hear it listens
for that listener, I'd love to dedications.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Yes, absolutely, here we go.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Look at the card, the ones the ref shows you
for all the sins that you do, and they were
all yellow. You tripped the guy collapse, the mall or
two slap down a past day through and you got
show yellow.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
That is utterly brilliant, utterly bro I just I just
know that's what we're going to be hearing on Craig
goes well tomorrow night, surely or is it just is
it just for us?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It's just for me? You do you want exclusive?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
There'll be exclusive.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I'm so proud to get it. That's magnificent stuff. I'll
let him know tomorrow morning on the I'll let them
know tomorrow morning on the ten past eight Commentary Box
and say hey, hey, Mike, I've got a little song
for you.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, yeah, I'll.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Love it speaking of yellow and yellow fever segue there
for you. Do you think the Phoenix will level win
one of these derbies?
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yes they will. I thought they were pretty impressive. I've
never heard the term high line mentioned so many times
in commentary, Pinety, but you're definitely. If you're playing a
drinking game where you mentioned high line, I think there'll
be a few inebriated spectators, don't you think?
Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, but it's some. It is a talking point, isn't it,
especially when you when the high line lets you down
after twenty eight seconds.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
And it is it's a danger, right, this is the
whole thing. And it's happened to them again. I mean,
well it happened against Perth and now we see it.
And of course what we're talking about is where the
defense are pretty much forcing the issue, standing a bit
further forward than they normally would that defensive line. And
I don't know, Yes, it puts a bit of pressure
on but I'll tell you what, it leads gaps, and
(05:31):
I think that it has to stop the high line
once they get or they come up with a compromise.
Because they scored an absolute beauty of a goal. You
can tell. I mean Where did they find this Nigerian striker?
Speaker 3 (05:46):
Yeah, incredible. You know his last club was in Iraq.
You've got to love football to play football in Iraq.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's what he's played for. All the Ols. You know
that our every club begins with OL. You know, call
me OL. So I mean the one thing with the
Phoenix that I think. And you've got Steve Carriker, I
think coming up, I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
He no, no, he's up after two.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
He's a stern fellow and I think a bit a
fair factor helps when it comes down to closing out
big games like that. And I mean chief he is lovely,
lovely man, but you know there's there's that and also
just leadership, and that's where how Aukan they see based.
Their team had Orki Sakai, a few others, a few
key people that they got in there the strata. We
(06:33):
sort of solidify their team. Whereas I think Wellington, apart
from Alex Rufer, there's always a bit of a bit
of a movable feast and once they settle on that,
I think it's a fair fight. Right now, I look
forward to the to the rematch, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
A couple of red cards shown last night Steve Corriker
didn't agree with the first one. I'll ask him why
after two. I think the logan Rogerson won, there's no
intense but the outcomers he's he's landed as studs halfway up.
Lucas Kelly healed shin. That was always going to be
a red, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, I think so. The one issue I have with
with red in the A leaguers. They're shown very easily
to the New Zealand teams, but I've seen pretty much
a shoulder charge it would be a sin but at
least in most in either rugby code, and the player
just wanders around like it is no big deal, you know,
and they and they say it's shoulders, the shoulder, and
it's like, that's not really what the law is intended.
(07:25):
It doesn't mean you can come in and absolutely take
someone out. So I find that the physicality, yes, I
mean you're right studs. When the studs are up and
they and they really do some damage, then yes, But
I mean there's a lot of stuff that happens in
football where you know it is accidental, there's no malice intended,
and then sometimes the red card just comes.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Out just before you go, Key, We's tour some more
tonight in the Pacific Championship Rugby League Final. Could this
be quite close? It could be quite close. Could some
more won't this?
Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, one hundred percent they could. They blew it last time. Really,
I think it was Dean narrow and to put down
a pretty sharp ball. Had a bit of source on
it really from Blaze to Lungey. But this is the
whole thing. I think even Brian Tall had a chance
in the dying stages of the early game. Amount smart,
I mean, some more do. That's a star studded team,
(08:22):
so even those players have just mentioned there, you've got
premiership winners with recent premiership winners, You've got Roger Tuvass
paying houses in there like that, there's no weak links
because even if you look at your house, combine combo
with Jerome Lewy joining Blaize to Lungey, it's just really
nice team to watch and so I think it will
(08:43):
be an entertaining game. But the one wonder thing about
the Kiwis is they seem to be They've got a
really tough heart to the team and the spine seems
to be operating just well enough. Phoenix Crossland will be
in at Hoker, which has always been a little bit
of a problem position over the years for the for
the Kiwis and you know Karan Furran just hanging on.
(09:06):
But look, for example, if Jarromes Hughes was fit, I'd say, hey,
we're winning this, but right now it looks like it
could be very close. I haven't written a song for
this one, sorry, Poney, but I'm definitely worth a look
At six pm.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
On Sky what could I request a song about Wellington's
Highline to the tune of Back in the High Life
Again by Steve Winwood? Would you be able to come
up with something? I'm not straight away, but maybe next week.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
No, I'm happy to do that and quite in speaking
of quite a high voice, Steve when would say, asking
a lot of me piney, but I'm happy to deliver.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Okay, love it, James, always good chatting mate, James mcconey,
big part of our Sundays.
Speaker 1 (09:46):
For more from Weekend Sport with Jason Faine. Listen live
to News Talk zed B weekends from midday or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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