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March 19, 2025 26 mins

How do you do more without growing your team substantially? In this episode of The REWORK Podcast, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson share how they’re expanding their product lineup while keeping their team lean. They reflect on how their approach to building software has evolved, and how pushing into the unknown makes the work more exciting. 

Key Takeaways

  • 00:28 – How 37signals’ product lineup has evolved over time
  • 08:00 – Why the company is adding a product designer to the team
  • 15:07 – Finding the “fun” in creating new products
  • 18:50 – Challenging yourself by stepping into the unknown
  • 23:16 – Using real products as a way to do research and development

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