In this episode, 37signals co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson talk about why résumés, job titles, and career timelines take a back seat to what really matters when hiring — your actual work. They share how real-world examples cut through the noise, and open doors for people who may not have a traditional path.
Key Takeaways:
- 00:00 – Episode highlights
- 00:10 – Why final hiring decisions come down to a candidate’s actual work
- 03:50 – The 37Better redesign project
- 07:27 – How real project work reduces the guesswork of hiring
- 14:29 – Why creating work outside your portfolio shows your range and creativity
- 20:02 – Hiring when it hurts
Links and Resources:
- “Years of Evidence” from Jason Fried’s HEY World
- The 37Better Project (archived)
- Record a video question for the podcast
- Books by 37signals
- Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com
- HEY World | HEY
- The REWORK podcast
- The Rework Podcast on YouTube
- The 37signals Dev Blog
- 37signals on YouTube
- @37signals on X
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