Hunter Pleads

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, cooner country.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, a law to talk about today.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Believe me, I'm gonna get to Trump's very important address
at the Economic Club in New York. It was an
unbelievable speech and now completely resets the race against Kamala Harris.
But before I do, the other huge story yesterday, crackhead

(00:29):
hunter Hunter Biden stuns the courtroom, stuns much of the
country just before jury's selection was to begin in his
tax evasion trial. Yesterday, Hunter Biden stunned the courtroom and frankly,

(00:49):
much of the entire media by now changing his plea
from not guilty to guilty, and it's now guilty on
all counts. In other words, Hunter Biden yesterday pled guilty
to nine charges, three of them felonies, And as many

(01:14):
of you know if you heard the news yesterday, these
are serious felonies involving tax evasion, tax fraud, filing false
personal filing claims on both his personal and corporate income
taxes over one point four million dollars. Now, there are

(01:36):
several very very important consequences now arising out of this.
The first and the biggest is that Hunter Biden now
is going to face seventeen years in jail. What is
also incredible is the timing of why this, of how
this happened yesterday. Normally, when you do a plea deal,

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you do it way before jury's selection or the trial
is set to begin, not on the very cusp on
the very verge of the trial beginning when they're actually
in the process of trying to select jurors. And so
what that shows to me, beyond the shadow of a doubt,

(02:20):
is that Joe Biden and his team are convinced that
Kamala is going to lose the election. If they honestly
believed that Kamala Harris was going to win the election,
then no way would Hunter Biden be pleading guilty and
risking years in prison. They now realize that Kamala is

(02:44):
most likely going to lose to Donald Trump, and so
Daddy is going to have to bail him out with
a pardon or a commutation. And the reason why that
scumbag Hunter Biden pled guilty yesterday wasn't because he's an
innocent man being persecuted by the prosecution and federal prosecutors,

(03:08):
as his sleazy lawyer Abby Lowell was trying to claim yesterday,
no no, no, no, oh contreire. The reason why Hunter
Biden fell on his sword was to protect Joe and
it was to protect the Biden crime family, because a
trial wouldn't have just been humiliating for Hunter Biden, because

(03:32):
all of his personal life, all of his spending, his reckless, irresponsible,
lavish spending on Russian hookers, strippers, cocaine, crack, jet setting
private jets, globe trotting around the world, all of this

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would have been exposed, but it would have led to discovery.
And the discovery would have shown where'd you get the
money from and why were they paying you so much
money to literally do nothing? And of course it would
have led back to Joe Biden because as the trial

(04:15):
would have unearthed, as the trial would have clearly unmasked
and revealed to the entire country and the world beyond.
A shadow of a doubt is that Joe Biden was
using his vice presidency and his presidency as part of
an international influence peddling operation in which he used his

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son as the bagman to collect bribe after bribe after
bribe after bribe in exchange for selling out US foreign
policy and US national interests to the highest bidder. Whether
it be the corrupt, all the Garks in Ukraine, whether
it be corrupt, all the Garks in Romania, whether it

(05:01):
be call corrupt oligarchs in Kazakhstan, or of course the
big one, the communist Chinese. And so to protect his
old man, to protect him from all the crimes and
abuses of power and corruption that would have been revealed
a trial, Joe Biden gave a call to Hunter and said, son,

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don't worry about it. You fall on your sword, you
plead guilty, and Daddy will pardon you. Now the question
for liberals and the media is this, Joe Biden, on
dozens of occasions, I'm not talking even once or twice,
on dozens of occasions, has said again and again and

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again that under no circumstances would he commute or pardon
any sense entence for his son. Now you're gonna see
what a liar Joe Biden is. Now you're gonna see
just what a corrupt, lying sob Joe Biden is. I

(06:14):
will bet you the best steak at the Post nineteen
seventeen steakhouse. And I, by the way, I met the
owner yesterday, very nice guy.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
And the steaks.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
You gotta go to Post nineteen seventeen steakhouse. Let me
just say this. Okay, you're gonna have an incredible meal,
but let that go.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
Okay, let that go.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
I'll bet you the best steak at the Post nineteen
seventeen steakhouse, and I'll throw in any bottle of wine
you want, and any dessert, the whole course, a full
course menu. Joe Biden is now gonna pardon Hunter Biden.
And the reason now is he can't count on Kamala

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winning the White House in November. He would rather that
she do it and he not do it because it
would be an obvious, massive scandal when he does part
in his corrupt loser son. So he'd rather that she
do it on her first day in office than he'd
do it on his last day in office. But now

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that guarantee is no longer there, and so everything we
said about the Biden crime family has been validated. And
I got to tell you, they're lucky. They're lucky they
had such weak controlled opposition federal prosecutors because the worst

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part of the tax evasion and the corruption and the
embezzlement they got him for twenty eighteen. They deliberately left
out twenty sixteen, twenty fifteen, twenty fourteen, twenty thirteen, and
that when Joe Biden was up to his eyeballs in

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getting himself, Hunter and the entire Biden crime family rich
as he sold us out into country after country after country.
Listen now to Abby Lowell, Hunter, Biden Sleevesball lawyer on
this complete reversal. His client was not guilty for months,

(08:25):
not guilty, not guilty, not guilty.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
Not guilty.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
They found him guilty in Delaware on gun charges. He's
already now a convicted felon and now going into the
courtroom again. He knew the prosecution had its client dead
to rights, and at the last possible second changed displea
from not guilty to guilty. But you know who the

(08:49):
victim is, yep, crackhead Hunter. Listen now to Abby Lowell.
This guy has no shame whatsoever. Rol C five Mike.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
After watching prosecutors exploit his family's pain during the Delaware
trial and realizing that they were planning to do it
again here in California, Hunter decided to enter his plea
to protect those he loves from unnecessary hurt and cruel humiliation.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Right, First of all, why didn't he plead guilty months ago.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
By the way, you would have gotten a better deal.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Any lawyer will tell you, if you're gonna plead guilty,
don't take it almost to trial or start jury selection.
That that's the worst time to do it. On every front.
You're angering the judge, you're costing the state unnecessary money.
You've lost all leverage, all leverage. So why at the
last possible moment, Oka, if you really wanted to spare

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his family the pain and the humiliation, Oh, we have
to relive Hunter's addiction.

Speaker 2 (10:07):
Oh, we don't want to relive it.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
No, I'll tell you the pain and humiliation he wanted
to spare was that Daddy was helping line his pockets.
That the only reason why, because the question's going to
be asked. You had millions of dollars pouring in, and
we see you on plane after plane, jet setting all
over the world, and you're partying like there's a little tomorrow.

(10:31):
I'm not kidding, really snorting cocaine off the rear ends
of strippers, okay, sleeping with prostitutes and escorts two three
at a time now, and videotaping himself.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
That's how stupid he was.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Where did you get all that cash, and why would
they be paying you all of this money unless, of
course it was to get influence and access to your
old man. Okay, very very important developments yesterday. Uh in
the well now it's not even a trial. Did you

(11:07):
make it the trial?

Speaker 4 (11:08):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (11:08):
In the Hunter Biden case. So just because a lot
of you have a lot of questions about exactly what
happened yesterday. So I'm gonna make it as simple and
clear as I can.

Speaker 5 (11:18):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Joe Biden now in many ways is gonna have to
pardon his son.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
And I'll tell you why.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Because the plea deal that they arranged yesterday. Hunter Biden
is now doing this plea deal already as a convicted felon.
Remember he was found guilty in Delaware on gun charges.
So he's not doing a guilty plea you know, you know,
never you know, never having a criminal rap sheet, never

(11:52):
having been convicted in the.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Past, first time offense.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
So this is going to really significantly increase chances, almost
make it inevitable that he will see jail time. He's
going to see jail time. The judges, the sentencing is
going to be in December. The judge is going to
give him jail time. He faces up to seventeen years

(12:17):
in prison. Now, I'm telling you Hunter is not going
to see a day in jail. The deal that he
made with his old man is I don't care if
it's you, I don't care if it's Kamala, I don't
care who does it. But if I'm going to take
the fall for this, then because you know, remember they
could have gotten Biden, Joe Biden on tax evasion, they

(12:38):
could have gotten Joe Biden on corruption and bribery. All
the money came because of Joe Biden. He's the lynchpin
of this entire crime family. No one else has any
access to sell Frankie Biden, Jimmy Biden, Hunter Biden, nobody
can sell anything. The only one that can sell anything

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is Joe Biden. So Hunter Biden now wanted to spare
his father the so called humiliation of a trial.

Speaker 2 (13:10):
Really the exposure of the.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
Old man and their money laundering, embezzling, tax cheating scheme,
O gay, their influence peddling scheme. So to show you
what a weasel Hunter Biden is. Okay, I want to
make it very simple. I'm not going to get into
the weeds. It's very simple. It's rarely done. It's not

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often done, but sometimes it is done whereby a defendant,
and that's what Hunter Biden and his lawyer tried to
do yesterday. They offer what's called an Alfred guilty plea.
And you may be saying, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff, what the
hell is an Alfred guilty plea? An Alford guilty plea

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is someone who says, look, for whatever reason, I'm going
to get destroyed in court.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
Okay, I'm gonna lose.

Speaker 1 (14:02):
It's stocked against me and i can see the writing
on the wall, and I'm gonna lose. So but I'm innocent.
I'm innocent, but I can't win. I just can't win.
So I'm going to offer an Alfred guilty plead, which
is I plead guilty and you can sentence me. But

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the record shows that I claim that I'm innocent, if
that makes any sense. In other words, I didn't do it,
and the record shows that I'm saying I didn't do it.
I'm not admitting any guilt, but I can't I can't
win in court.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
Now.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
It's not often done Sandy made that point to me,
and she's a lawyer. She's completely right. But sometimes it
is done rarely, but it does happen. His sleezy lawyer
and Hunter tried. That's what they did yesterday at the
last minute. So they went into the courtroom. All all
the media cameras are there. Jury selection is supposed to

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begin up until yesterday morning. Everybody including the judge, the prosecutors,
the media, everybody's saying, well, he came in, it's not guilty,
and they're going to start selecting jurors and we're going.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
To have a trial. Right then, just as as the
trial is about.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
To begin, we're offering an Alford plea. The prosecution was
like what they were stunned. The judge what now, at
this possible moment, are you serious? So they had to
go back and forth. The prosecution did not accept the
Alford plea. The judge said no, no, no, listen, we got

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to do this behind closed doors. And so they stopped
jury selection temporarily. And at the end of the day,
now it's a regular guilty plea. Now Hunter Biden pled guilty.
When a lod back and forth and eventually they said
okay to hell with it. No Alford guilty plea. It's

(16:05):
going to be a straight up guilty, irregular guilty plea. Now,
my point just being even at the last possible moment,
even when he offers is guilty plea, he's trying to
weasel out.

Speaker 2 (16:23):
What changed? That's the question? What changed?

Speaker 1 (16:29):
For months and months and months everybody knew this trial
was coming, he claimed.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
He was not guilty. What changed?

Speaker 1 (16:39):
At the last possible second, he does a complete one
hundred and eighty degree reversal. He goes from not guilty
to guilty on nine counts, three felonies. As a convicted felon.
He's pleading guilty, so he's guaranteeing himself jail time up
to seventeen years behind bars.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
What change?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
And is this now setting up a pardon from Joe Biden? Now,
let me tell you what some of you are saying
to me on email text messages. And I believe it's Michael's.
If I'm mispronouncing his first name on messenger, I apologize.
And if it's Michelle or Michael, but anyway, uh and whatever, Michael.

(17:25):
Michelle makes a very good point, Jeff. Maybe we're looking
at this all the wrong way. Maybe there's a secret
deal between Joe Biden and Kamala Harris that a month
before the election or three weeks before the election, Joe
Biden resigns for health reasons, Kamala becomes the president, and

(17:48):
she says win or lose, I will then pardon Hunter Biden.
What do you make of Hunter Biden's decision to plead
guilty yesterday?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Why did he do it? Why do you think he
did it?

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And why did he do it at the worst possible
time for himself? He lost all leverage, all leverage by
waiting so late and even trying to offer that Weasley plea,
as I mentioned, the Alfred guilty plea, which blew up
in his face. And now he has pled guilty to
nine charges, tax fraud, tax evasion, three of them are

(18:28):
serious felonies. Is this now leading up to a pardon
by Joe Biden? Six one, seven two, six, six, sixty
eight sixty eight. Will Hunter Biden spend a day behind bars?
I want to hear from you. By the way, it
was Michael, Uh. It was Michael who sent me that message.

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And here's exactly what Michael wrote to me.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
Jeff Jeheff, Jeff Joe won't pardon Hunter.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
He's going to resign in October, and Kamala will do
his bidding. Now, there's a lot of you out there,
and frankly a lot of analysts out there that think that, yeah,
you know what they're going to want to give Kamala
on October surprise. And the October surprise is Joe Biden

(19:24):
too sick to finish. He's going to claim for health
reasons he can't finish. He's going to step down, make
Kamala President of the United States, thereby, you know, breaking
all these supposed glass ceilings, first female president, first female
minority president.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Blah blah, blah blah.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
And they believe that may give her a huge boost
several weeks or a month before the actual date of
the election. And what many of you are saying is
that could be the deal where Joe, because I mean,
I don't look Joe Biden. Now, maybe he doesn't care,

(20:03):
but his reputation is going to be in tatters, in
absolute tatters if he goes ahead and pardons Hunter Biden
now or whatever after November fifth, and whether let's say
Kamala wins or loses if he goes ahead, especially if
Kamala loses if he goes ahead and pardons Hunter Biden,

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after saying over and over and over and over again
that under no circumstances, unconditionally I give you my word
as a Biden, which to me that tells everything you
need to know about the value of his word.

Speaker 2 (20:40):
But let that go.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I will not partner commute my son, have no partner commutation,
none whatsoever. So maybe the deal is I step down,
hand the reins over to you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Kamala. I'm you know, I'm I'm.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
This is now direct election interference. But you gotta pardon
my son, win or lose. You gotta pardon my son.

Speaker 2 (21:07):
Do you think.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
That's in the cards. Steven doesn't think so. Here's what
he sent to me on message on messenger. He messaged
me on messenger, Jeff, I don't know if Comrade Kamala
would actually pardon Hunter Biden.

Speaker 2 (21:24):
If Joe did step.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Down earlier than his term ends, that could be a
ploy on her part to get herself and her team
into the Oval office. And so she could just be
engaging in lip service to rush this process to get
her into the White House.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Hunter.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
But she may not, you know, follow through on her
promise she may stab Joe Biden in the back. Because
she stabs everybody in the back, Hunter could still be
sitting in prison without any pardon at all. In other words,
I don't know if I can trust Kamala. And if
you make a deal with her to pardon Hunter, that's

(22:08):
very high risk because you're counting on her to be
true to her word. And the one thing about Kamala
Harris's she will stab anybody in the back. Anybody six
one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, listen now to this his sleevesball lawyer

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Abby Lowell.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
You know, how about you just enter the guilty plea
and go home?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Really, I mean, in other words, look, my client is guilty,
is so obviously guilty. He stole from the American people,
He didn't pay his taxes, he was living high on
the hog. We all know what was going to come
out at the trial, and just you know, take your
punishment like a man.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
No, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
Listen to this. You can and see they're setting it
up for a pardon. Listen now to Abulol. The victim
is Hunter. Listen to is he overpaid his taxes? I
sure you can't make this up. Forget tax evasion. Don't
know he's given the government too much World cut five

(23:21):
B Mike.

Speaker 3 (23:25):
There's no doubt this case was an extreme and unusual
one for the government to bring. Like millions of Americans,
Hunter was late in filing and paying his taxes.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
Unlike those millions of Americans.

Speaker 3 (23:41):
He was charged criminally for his failures that occurred during
the depths of his addiction to drugs and alcohol, and
which he has rectified by paying his overdue taxes in
full with interest and penalties, years before he was ever charged.

(24:05):
In fact, Hunter actually overpaid his taxes in the year
he was charged with tax evasion.

Speaker 1 (24:12):
Yeah, oh yeah, no, he's paying too much. We're suing
the i RS. We're suing the government. We want our
money back. We gave you too much. I mean, really,
this guy could start. This guy could sell snowed eskimos.

(24:35):
I mean, this guy, he could sell sand to the
to the Soudis.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I mean, this guy's unbelievable. Really. I mean, so here
you have we're.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Looking at millions and millions of dollars where we don't
even know where the income came from, undeclared, unpaid taxes,
he lies on form after form, he evades millions of
dollars in taxes, and now they're doing the whole he

(25:08):
was in the depths of addiction. In other words, they're
trying to paint the picture of a guy really in
an alley with like a heroin needle, you know, sticking
out of his arm. He's like, oh, you know, on
the verge of odeeing, when in reality, he's jet setting
around the world. He's partying with strippers and prostitutes and escorts. Literally,

(25:35):
he's going into strip clubs and dropping twenty five fifty
hundred thousand dollars like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
He's setting up deals with.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
Barisma, with a Romanian oligarchs, with Chinese banks and Chinese
energy companies. He's gulb trotting in a suit, setting up
deal after deal after deal, and they're like, he was
in the depths of the shouldn't the man didn't know where,
he didn't know what he was doing, didn't know what
was happening to him. You believe this. I've got some

(26:10):
swamp land in Florida. You may be interested in so
loving Hunter, compassionate hunter, victim hunter. There's Hunter, the crack
pipe made him do it. It was the crack pipe
blamed the crack pipe. Hunter did it for his dad

(26:34):
and for his family. Listen now to Abby Lowell what
Hunter did yesterday. It was a brave thing to do.
He's basically George Washington roll cut five C.

Speaker 3 (26:46):
Mike Hunter put his family first today and it was
a brave and loving thing for him to do.

Speaker 5 (26:58):
Why do you want to do this morning?

Speaker 1 (27:00):
If you heard even one of the reporters, even one
of those lib reporters, were like, yeah, if it's so
loving and the brave and right thing to do, why
did he wait until literally this morning.

Speaker 3 (27:14):
There's no doubt his case was an extreme and unusual
one for the government to bring. Like millions of Americans,
Hunter was late in filing and paying his taxes.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Unlike those millions of Americans.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
He was charged criminally for his failures that occurred during
the depths of his addiction to drugs and outcome, and
which he has rectified by paying his overdue taxes in
full with interest and penalties, years before he was ever charged.

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In fact, Hunter actually overpaid his taxes in the year
he was charged with evasion.

Speaker 2 (28:04):
Incredible, I tell you, just incredible. The way they can
just lie, just lie.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I mean six point fifty on the Great Wrko Jeff
Kooner Liberalism's worst nightmare. Okay, this is from eric On Messenger.
It's absolutely hilarious. You got Habby Lowell going on about
how you know he didn't pay his toxes. He was
in the depths of his addiction to drugs and alcohol,

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and eric On Messenger rights, Jeff Abby forgot to mention
Hunter was in the depths of his brother's wife.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
You can't make this up. Okay. It is the Kooner
Country Poll.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Question of the Day sponsored by Mario's Marios Quality roofing,
siding and windows. Will Hunter Biden spend a day behind bars?
Will he ever see a jail cell?

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (29:05):
I'm asking for ten years or five years or three years,
or do you think Hunter Biden will ever spend twenty
four hours okay a day in prison?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
A yes, b No.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
I want to hear from you to me. I think
there's no way I'm on this. I'm gonna be all
the way. His father is gonna pardon him six ways
to Sunday or commute sentence or whatever. But there's no
way Hunter Biden pled guilty yesterday without some kind of

(29:42):
a guarantee that he was not gonna spend a day
in jail because his father's gonna pardon him, or Kamala's
gonna pardon them, or somebody's gonna pardon them.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Agree, disagree.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
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is in national Er. Lines are loaded. Dave in Pennsylvania.

(30:18):
Thanks for holding Dave, and welcome.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
Good morning, Jeff. I hope that your radio issues from yesterday.
So this wasn't supposed to go as far as it was.
If you look at the timeline and they tried to
sweep it under the rug. They dragged their feet in
the midterms, They dragged their feet during the primaries because
of election interference. If this was to be going on

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during an election, they tried to give him a sweeth
hot deal. The judge was quick enough to say no, no, no,
that hasn't been done before. It was never supposed to
get this file. That's that's the first thing. The second
thing is I think they're gonna have Biden resigned, Tom
wa come in so she can look presidential before the election.

(31:10):
She's already installed. People like to vote for the incumbent
or make her look like the incumbent. And she made
a promise that you will podon him. That's why it
was still the last minute. I think by way of comparison,
if you look at how they've treated Trump and rushed
it through, that's election interference. The DOO say there's two

(31:30):
sets of justice, and it's on full display right here.
And that's all I got to say about.

Speaker 1 (31:35):
That, Dave, before I let you go, if you were
to vote in the poll, question, would do you think
he's gonna spend any time in jail?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I take it your answer would be no.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
If Biden does not resign. I think you'll get poddoned.
If Biden resigns, I think Kamala is gonna sick it
to him.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Oh you think, Oh, you think she's gonna let Hunter
twist in the win and.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Go to j.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
Unless he's got Dart on her to say that she
was connected and she knew, unless she's got her saying yeah,
I know she knows what I was doing because she
was tied to it, but I don't think she was
tied to it. So I think she'll sick because she
doesn't want to look like she's protected the criminal.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
Oh yeah, well, you're right, she's really Let's just play
out your scenario, which I think is very interesting, Dave,
and I think it's very plausible. I think it's a
very plausible scenario. So to help her win the election
the October surprise right, to make her look presidential, make
her be the official in comvent, Biden steps down, resigns,

(32:40):
Kamala comes in. She's now the president. Now let's say
wins or loses, it doesn't matter. Now she's made history. Okay,
she beat Hillary Clinton to the punch. She will be
the first female president of the United States and a
female minority to boot. Does she really want to dirty
her hands by pardoning Hunter by you.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Know, win or lose?

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Okay, let's just say she loses in November, so what
she'll be in office for like four months in total.
But that does she want that to be her legacy?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
You know?

Speaker 1 (33:12):
Or say she wins, Okay, they steal it. Does she
really want to start her new presidency by having pardoned
this guy in other words, you're right, Dave, is she
would really dirty her hands. It would really it would
almost blow up her presidency on the launch pad if
she goes and pardons him on behalf of Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
So you're right, Dave.

Speaker 1 (33:36):
Unless they've got something over her, she may not do it,
which begs the question. If they're not sure she's gonna
do it, Dave, then maybe Joe Biden's going to stay
in office. You know, because remember the reason why Hunter's
pleading guilty. You know, it's not all the love of
my son. I'm gonna pardon him. I don't want my

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son to go to jail. The reason why Hunter plied
guilty yesterday was to protect Biden, because then the trial
would expose how implicated and how central Joe Biden was
to the whole thing. So he's pleading guilty to protect

(34:17):
his old man. He's expecting his old man now to
come back and say, hey, Dad, look I did my part.
You know, I fell on the sword.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
You know.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Now it's my neck in the noose. I'm the one
that's going to go to jail. So if I'm Joe Biden,
if I don't have an iron clad assurance that Kamala
is going to pardon him. I don't care dementia, no dementia.
I stay in office, and then I pardon him on
the last day.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
What say you, Dave?

Speaker 4 (34:46):
Agree with that? Because Biden's reputation is already shattered. He's
going to be a footnote in history. His legacy is
already done. So what's one more of kink in the
arm of when he poddons his son. At that point,
he not really gonna care his family comes first. I
really think that in his mind, I'm going to protect

(35:07):
my son at all casts regardless. I mean, he's already
in tatters. But that's why it came down to the
last second. That's why because of all the if I'm
going down, I'm taking you with me, So they must
have been a last minute assurance. I mean, why try
the outward thing because I want to. I don't want
to admit guilt, but I have to now because I

(35:33):
have to get that assurance that I'm going to be paddoned.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
You nailed it, Dave. I think you really nailed it.
You really nailed it, Dave. Thank you so much for
that call. I want to ask all of you agree, disagree,
and in particular. Really two issues on the table. Okay,
not one, but let's throw two logs on the fire.
First log, do you think Hunter Biden will be pardoned?

(35:57):
Do you think the pardon is coming no matter what,
even though but Joe Biden dementia? Joe, When I say dozens,
I think I'm actually understating it. Okay, I don't think
it's just thirty forty times. It's more than thirty forty times.
He kept saying, again and again, I will never pardon
my son. I will not commute a sentence. You have

(36:18):
my word as a Biden. So I mean, you know,
you know, saying something once or twice, but to say
it that many times, you know, many times he said it.

Speaker 2 (36:27):
Listen to me, No, I can't let me be clear.
I can't be clearer. So he pardons Hunter?

Speaker 1 (36:36):
Ah, I mean he's trash. I mean, I mean history
will never forgive him. Okay, now he may not care.
I agree with Dave, But I'm just saying, will Hunter
be pardoned?

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (36:48):
That's question? Newmero Uno Log number one, Log number two,
do you think Biden would pull out? In other words,
I'm not going to get my hands dirty. I'm gonna
have Kamala get her hands dirty. Now she wants the
presidency at all costs. Now, remember for Kamala, Sure she

(37:09):
wants to win in November, no question. But if she
but what else does she want? She wants to be president,
even if it's for four months, because she'll go down
in history first female president. In some ways, that will
guarantee her in the history books, immortality in her mind.

(37:34):
So she's willing to sell her soul. So you can
go to her and say, look, Kamala, you want to
be the first female and not just that the first
female minority president.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yea yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
I'm going to step down a month before the election
October first, ultimate October. Surprise, huge boost. You're going to
be known as the first female president. You know what
that's going to do to your campaign. It's gonna electric
fire your campaign. The Libs are gonna go nuts, the
media is gonna go nuts. You're gonna have the full
power of incumbency going in. But you got to do

(38:09):
me one thing, and I want it in writing, my
son is pardoned. When you're inaugurated officially January twentieth or whatever,
you know, should you win the election, you have to
pardon my son before you get inaugurated. If you lose
the election on the last day in office, you have
to pardon my son. Either way, a pardon's got to come.

(38:34):
So let me ask you. Do you think Biden will
drop out of the race and allow Kamala to become
officially the president of the United States, and to do
it weeks or a month before the election. It would
be the ultimate election interference. Will it happen? Do you

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think it'll happen?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Six two six six sixty eight sixty.

Speaker 1 (39:03):
Eight Lou in peabaty, Thanks for holding Lou, and welcome Amy.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
I can hear you, Lou, Can you hear me?

Speaker 4 (39:16):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (39:16):
I did. Sorry, let me just put it off here,
go ahead say. I had to give a shout out
to an active duty member. I promised her I would
uh to Leanna. I know she's listening, and uh. I
wanted to call because correct me if I'm wrong. We
discussed before I called in and that unnamed place, the

(39:40):
nucleus of communism and Cambridge that we talked about. Then
we go to high school, but we had a great
professor and I talked to you about him. But correct
me if I'm wrong, Jeff. Wasn't the Alfred plea used
mostly like in a Civil War for people going north
and south of the Mason Dixon line, Like, yes, I

(40:01):
know that are going to the south saying hey, Becky
can't get a spare trial. Yes, right, So this isn't
even used anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
If rare, it's very rare.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Uh, And Lou, I don't want to get too you're
completely right, by the way, obviously you're a very knowledgeable man, Lou.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
I don't want to get too much into the weeds.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
But when the when Abby Lowell came into court yesterday
to show you what an active desperation this was, and said,
we're changing our plea deal. We're sorry, we're changing our plea.
We're gonna enter a guilty plea deal, but an Alford
guilty plea. Most legal analysts on television, and I'm not
you know, they're not stupid people when it comes to

(40:42):
the law.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
They were like, what the hell is that? That's right?

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Yeah, so you know, an Alford is quite rare. But
let me tell you what's super rare and almost unheard of. Well,
I don't know, Sandy, I mean, it's pretty unusual. Sandy says, okay, whatever,
it's unusual. Okay, it's not done often. Okay, let's put
it that way. Sandy says, it's not rare. Okay, so
it's not done often. Okay, let's just put.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
It that way. So many analysts are like, we, well, anyway,
But the.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Bigger issue is this, what is really rare, and this
is indisputable, is to offer an Alfred plea without telling
the prosecution. Remember when you do a plea deal, you
always it's always arranged with the prosecution ahead of time.
So you know, like whatever, I'm not that it whatever

(41:38):
happened to you, John, but say whatever you're involved in,
you didn't pay your taxes one year just to indulge me.
And now that you know, the IRS is barreling down
on you, and we got you on tax evasion and
tax fraud and and you're like, oh geez, say yeah yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And you know, let's say it really was
an honest mistake, or you were like, you know, I
was an alcoholic, or I was in the in the

(41:59):
death of a drug addiction, and so.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I just stopped telling you, man, I was stoned. I
just didn't pay my taxes.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
You don't want to go to court because you know
you're going to lose, so you would make it so
to spare the court, the expense, the time, everything, you
would make a deal with the prosecution. You would go
to the prosecution and say, look, really, here's what happened.
I'll offer a guilty plea. Can you give me minimal

(42:28):
time or a minimal penalty and let's resolve this. What
they did was almost unheard of. They went to court yesterday.
I remember, they're not guilty. They keep saying they're not guilty.
So the judge is there, they got jury selection, the
media cameras are there, they're going to have a trial,
it's ready to go, and they offer an Alford plea

(42:54):
without telling the prosecution. So you want to have a
guilty plea deal without the secution involved. That's why the
prosecution was stunned. The judge was stunned. The judge was like,
I've never heard of this before. They tried to weasel
out of it yesterday, and the prosecution, to their credit,

(43:16):
held the line and said there's we're not giving them
an Alford plea.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
What are you nuts?

Speaker 1 (43:21):
And the judge went into recess, looked it over and
said no, it's it's gonna be a regular plea guilty,
plea deal. In other words, he's got a plead guilty
all the way, yes or no. And of course they broke.
They waved a white flag and they said, okay, guilty
on all nine counts, guilty on three felonies. So, Lou,

(43:42):
it's obvious he did it kicking and screaming. And I
believe the only reason why Hunter Biden did it, I
think I can't read the evidence any other way, is
because his old man told him to do it. He
basically said, son, listen, you're gonna buy the bullet on this,
but don't worry. I got your back now, Lou, very quick.

(44:05):
So I want to go back to you. Think how
humiliating this must be for Hunter Biden. I'm not defending
the guy, you know, I can't stand him, but just
think about it from his point of view. You've been
your father's bag man for how many decades now, collecting
checks for the family, almost like the family poodle, the

(44:26):
family errand boy, and you do all the deals with
the oligarchs on behalf of your father. His father's fingerprints
are never there, it's always your fingerprints, your name, You're
the one that's always being exposed. You're always the one
that's out there and now and you deny your innocence

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again and again and again and again, and now they
force you to plead guilty. There's no getting around it.
Everybody who's been back backing Hunter Biden feels betrayed. Everybody
in the media, everybody in the Democratic Party who's been

(45:07):
backing Hunter Biden feels profoundly betrayed. No matter what happens,
this is now a permanent stain, a permanent black eye
on Hunter Biden.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
And you can tell.

Speaker 1 (45:21):
I mean, that's why he tried to weasel out of
it with this stupid Alfred plea deal. Okay, this which
he wouldn't even tell the prosecution about. But the fact is, Lou,
he humiliated his son again. His son took the rap
and took the fall again.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
What say you, Lou.

Speaker 5 (45:42):
Oh, I feel the same way, But you know, I
think it was sort of brilliant, you know, in an
act of desperation, because if he succeeded in that Alford plea,
that would keep everything out of the media, and then
he could go and say, look, listen, I never conceded
to commit any rhymes and they could have went back

(46:02):
on that, but thank god the prosecution told the line.
But going forward, you know, Joe Biden's going to do
the Vinny the Chin Jiganti routine and pass away and
and then you know, Hunter apology pardoned.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Yeah, that's that's how I I'm almost like one hundred
percent guarantee. I mean, nothing is one hundred percent in life,
but as close to one hundred percent as you can get,
he's getting pardoned.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
And that's the only reason why he pled guilty, because
there's no way now.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
The other thing, though, is I got to say, lou
By everything I've been reading in the media, and again
I'm a prisoner of these media reports. But these are
some very good journalists who know their stuff about, you know,
the courtroom and the law. They said he was going down.
I mean, the prosecution had Hunter Biden six ways to
Sunday that this was an iron clad case against him.

(46:57):
I mean they had video, they had emails, they had receipts,
they had I mean they were gonna humiliate him, I
mean really humiliate him. All of the trips, the prostitutes,
the hookers, the cocaine, the the oligarchs, the jets, setting
the deals. I mean, they were going to expose all

(47:17):
of that, and that's why he had to take up.
He had to go for a guilty play because that
would have implicated Joe Biden, Frankie Biden, Jimmy Biden, I mean,
everybody would have been implicated. So in a sense, they
were going to really really unmask him, and by unmasking him,
unmask the entire family.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
Lou, thank you very much for that call.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Six one seven two six, six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number, which, again I don't want to go
in a circular argument, but it begs the question.

Speaker 2 (47:52):
Right. His lawyer is not stupid. I'd be lowell. He's
not a stupid man.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
So months ago, if you know all this, look, we're
gonna get destroyed in court.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
I mean you know they've.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
Got Hey, they've got smoking gun document after smoking gun document,
They've got video after video after I mean they've got
it all, man, So what is your lawyer tell you
got to You gotta comp a pleat, right, I mean,
just imagine if you're in the situation you're a hunter hunter.

(48:21):
I mean, they got you bragging about not paying taxes.
They got you bragging about paying ten thousand dollars a
night for Russian hookers. All of this is undeclared income.
I mean the hunter. They got you, Okay, they got you,
so to spare them the cost of a trial, the
expense of a trial, the energy and time of a trial,

(48:45):
and all of this, you plead guilty months ago. That's
what you do. He didn't do that, didn't do that.
Not guilty, not guilty. We're gonna fight in court. We're
gonna win in court. We're gonna take it to appeal
if we lose. If we lose, we're taking it to
a Peloti is a witch hunt, and he swallows this.

(49:09):
Let me tell you you may disagree with me. When
I heard I was stunned when I heard what he
pled guilty? Are you serious?

Speaker 2 (49:19):
Right away?

Speaker 1 (49:20):
My first thought, they're going to lose the election. Joe
Biden and his people have made the calculation. Trump is
gonna win