Who Won the VP Debate?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six, six, sixty eight, sixty eight
is the number. Okay, you know it was an absolute
horrible night for Tampon Tim and the Democrats and Kamala
Harris and her campaign. When the fake news media is
talking about Iran's missile strikes on Israel, the long Shortman strike,

(00:23):
the cleanup after Hurricane Helene, they're touching on the debate,
but you can tell they want to move quickly. They
want to turn this into a twenty four hour story
because what you saw last night was JD Vance annihilate
Tampon Tim. He destroyed Tim Waltz for ninety minutes on

(00:47):
issue after issue after issue. And what was most shocking
of all was how Waltz imploded saying that he's friends
with school shooters, called himself a knucklehead, was caught openly
lying about that he was in Hong Kong during the

(01:07):
time of the Tienamen Square massacre, when of course he
was in Nebraska the whole time he was in Nebraska,
And when he was fact checked on that and confronted,
he almost had a meltdown right there on stage. I
mean it went on and on and on, and you

(01:28):
can see as many of you are saying, Jeff, let
me tell you what he was why he was writing
so furiously on those on those notepads. It was Kamala,
please get me the hell out of here. I can't
take the pressure. I'm cracking up. Get me out. That's
what he was writing on those pads the whole night.

(01:50):
Six one, seven two, six, six sixty eight sixty eight. Agree, disagree?
Mary in Saugas, Thanks for a hold, Mary, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
Good morning, Jeff, my first time calling.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Welcome, Welcome, Mary.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Thank you, thank you so much. I watched the debate,
and what I noticed right away is when jd Vance
was talking, he looks directly into the camera at everybody
watching the debate. When Tim Waltz was talking, he was
talking to the moderators. Did you see that he wasn't

(02:29):
looking at at your bid.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
He kept the moderators. And then the other bizarre thing, Mary,
did you notice his eyes kept shifting back and forth
and his odd facial expressions. And I'm not trying to
make fun of the guy. Really, his head is like
a bobblehead. It's just his head movements were so it
was weird. And then he's listening, and then you can

(02:55):
I mean, I'm not trying to be insulting, but you
can see that Vance's IQ is so much higher than
that of Tienum and Tim. So, you know, for example,
there was one point where Vance was talking about improving
childcare access for families and women and working moms, and
he's saying, you know, we can make a real flexible

(03:16):
we can a lot of choice, a lot of flexible options.
There's so many ways or creative ways we can do this,
and he's giving, you know, point after point, and Watz
is nodding his head up and down like and with
his eyes almost like like wow. You know when you're
impressed with somebody, like like wow, that's really smart, like
what Wow. He kept doing that the whole night, so

(03:38):
his body language, his facial expressions were like well I
agree with him, or like why didn't I think of that?
Or wow, that's just that's really brilliant. And then you
remember he kept calling him weird. He kept saying that
this guy's some kind of a right wing monster. But
then throughout the entire debate, because he was getting beaten

(03:59):
up so badly by JD, he's like, oh no, JD's
a very serious man. Oh no, I agree with JD
on so many issues. Oh no, JD. No, JD clearly
is you know, he's like constantly praising JD vance to
try to, you know, like mitigate the sting of blow
after blow. Well, is he a weirdo? Or is he

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not a weirdo? Is he a right wing extremist? Or
is he not a right wing extremist? How could you
call him a right wing extremist?

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Now?

Speaker 1 (04:27):
When the whole night he kept saying I agree with
much of what JD said, because JD was just debating
circles around them on policy. It was like a child
versus an adult. I mean really it was. If this
was a fight, Mary, they would have stopped it after
the second round, within fifteen minutes of the debate, no more, stop, stop,

(04:48):
end this thing. And it went on and on and on,
and you can see it on Waltz's face. He just
kept withering the whole night. What say you, Mary?

Speaker 2 (05:00):
He looks like a deer caught in the headlights most
of the time, like oh no, oh no, well said yep,
I have may I say one more thing?

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Yes, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
I saw somebody on TV this morning. I think it
was Joe Concia Okay, I said that debate. That debate
was like a hockey game, and there was three against
one and JD van Scott every goal. I thought it
was great.

Speaker 1 (05:28):
No, I agree with you. It was three on one
and he beat all three of them. That's what me see.
That's why I look. Look, I respect Larry a lot.
He's a veteran, he served our country Air Force guy.
He's always protecting me at every rally I do. And
he's very smart, and he's a very astute observer. I
think B plus a minus. I think he's being a

(05:48):
little bit harsh, and I understand his points. I get it.
But you know, look, it's easy to you know, to
criticize her nitpick. He was in the lions. Then it
wasn't a fair five eight, It wasn't one on one.
It was two moderators and Waltz ganging up on JD.
And he beat one and then he beat the other,

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and then he beat the other and he kept doing
it again and again and again. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay,
Mike Coffee Air was telling me in my ear. You know, Jeff,
you're saying Larry maybe too tough a greater. Do you
ever think maybe you're too easy of a greater? All right,

(06:32):
so think Mike is uh, you know, with Larry saying
maybe JV should have landed a few more blows last
night six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Speaking of Larry, this is what he just messaged me
on messenger. Jeff Charlie Kirk said it best. JD is

(06:54):
doing great against three women. Really that's not very funny.
I mean it was he took on Margaret Brennan, he
took on Nora O'Donnell, and boy that he's certainly take
on that dam and Tim. Now, speaking of Tim and Tim,

(07:14):
this was one of the pivotal moments of last night's debate.
And again I don't know how Waltz or frankly, the
Harris Waltz campaign recovers from this. So NPR, yes, you
heard that correctly, far left NPR actually uncovered that Waltz.

(07:37):
You know, he's famously been to China thirty times, and
as you know, he's often praised Mao, one of the greatest,
most vicious mass murderers of the twentieth century, the dictator
who founded the Chinese communist regime. Well, Waltz has repeatedly claimed,

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in fact, he even did it when he was in Congress,
but he's done it on radio interviews that he has
that he was in Hong Kong during the nineteen eighty
nine Tienna Men Square massacre, basically in May and June,
and that he was there for months, and that he
he saw what a crackdown on democracy he looks like,

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and that's why he's standing up against Donald Trump. Except
there's one problem, as local contemporaneous news reports show Tim
Waltz in May, in June, in July, in August of
nineteen eighty nine. So I'm talking now, two months after

(08:44):
Tienam And Square. He was in Nebraska. He was serving
in the National Guard. He was in Alliance Nebraska, and
he was doing inspections on stockpiles of weapon and that's
why they have all these news reports and photos of him.
So the whole time Tienemin was happening, and months afterwards,

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he wasn't in Hong Kong. He wasn't even in Asia.
How he wasn't even in the Pacific Ocean. He was
in Nebraska. So it was the one time that the
moderators because it was NPR. It's an NPR story. It's
a far left story. So Margaret Brennan says, well, you
know there is this story, Tim Waltz, you've been saying

(09:32):
repeatedly you were in Hong Kong during the Tienamn Square massacre.
But how do you explain the discrepancy, as she put it,
of all these news reports that no, there's you with
your buddies National Guard and you're in Nebraska. Listen now
to this roll cut three. You want to talk about lying, dissembling,

(09:57):
and a word solid. Listen to this roll top three. Mike,
the public radio and other media outlets are reporting that
you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of that year.

Speaker 4 (10:11):
Can you explain that discrepancy?

Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (10:14):
Well, and to the folks out there, it didn't get
at the top of this. Look.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
I grew up in small, rural Nebraska town of four
hundred town that you rode your bike with your buddy
still the street lights come on, and I'm proud of
that service. I joined the National Guard at seventeen, worked
on family farms, and then I used the GI bill
to become a teacher. Passionate about it. A young teacher,
my first year out. I got the opportunity in the
summer of eighty nine to travel to China thirty five

(10:39):
years ago. Be able to do that, I came back
home and then started a program to take young people there.
We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams,
we would take dancers, and we would go back and
forth to China. The issue for that was was to
try and learn.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's not the issue whether you went to China or not.
The issue is you lied. You said you were there
in May and June in Hong Kong during the Tienamen
Square massacre. You were not. You were in Nebraska. You lied.
Now listen to Now here's the point. This was unbelievable.

(11:17):
That and I'm friends with school shooters. Where he says, hey, look,
I'm a knucklehead, that's what he says. Well, look, uh
you know, uh, I don't know. Maybe I got things
mixed up. I'm a knucklehead. I e I'm stupid. Roll
cut three A. Here it comes, Mike.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Now, look, my community knows who I am. They saw
where I was at. They look. I will be the
first to tell you I have poured my heart into
my community. I've tried to do the best I can.
But I've not been perfect, and I'm a knucklehead at times.
But it's always been about that those same people elected
me to Congress for twelve years, and in Congress I

(11:56):
was one of the most bipartisan people, working on things
like farm bills that we got done, working on veterans benefits,
and then the people of Minnesota were able to elect
me to governor twice. So look, my commitment has been
from the beginning to make sure that I'm there for
the people, to make sure that I get this right.
I will say more than anything. Many times, I will
talk a lot, I will get caught up in the rhetoric.

(12:19):
But being there, the impact it made, the difference it
made in my life. I learned a lot about China.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
So what he's really trying to say is, look, he's
basically saying it, I'm a bser. I get caught up
in my own rhetoric. Like you know, I look, I
just you know, I get in front of a camera
or I get in front of a microphone and I
just start, you know, I start bull crapping you know
what I really want to say. I just I can't
help myself. I just keep making stuff up and people

(12:46):
know I'm a knuckle ahead. I means I'm an idiot.
People just know that about me. But you know I've
been to China. Now, who bribes about going to China? Okay,
but let that go. Then listen to this. It gets
even worse. Listen out of this. He tries to turn
so he's caught lying, blake me lying, calls himself an

(13:07):
idiot and stupid, and basically says, yeah, you know I lie.
That's you know, I can't help myself. I'm a liar,
but then tries to turn it on Trump. Listen to
that is roll cut three b Mike.

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Donald Trump should have come on one of those trips
with US.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
I guarantee you he wouldn't be praising chijingping about COVID,
and I guarantee you he wouldn't start a trade war
that he ends up losing.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
So this is about trying to understand the world.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
It's about trying to do the best you can for
your community, and then it's putting yourself out there and
letting your folks understand what it is my commitment, whether
it be through teaching, which I was good at, or
whether it was being a good soldier or was being
a good member of Congress. Those are the things that
I think are the values that people care about.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
In other words, I'm a hero for lying. Yeah, I lied,
but I'm a hero. Now. By the way, when did
Trump st When does Trump pray China?

Speaker 3 (14:02):
Like?

Speaker 6 (14:02):
Notice?

Speaker 1 (14:02):
How they again they just make stuff up? And this
so called well here he lost the trade war with China?
Uh no, he didn't. Ask the communist Chinese. They'll tell
you we won that trade war under Trump. In fact,
there was the Chinese who signed the terms of surrender
and agreed to all these packages of tariffs that, by

(14:23):
the way, the Biden administration has kept in So what
losing trade war? Okay, again, more lies. Now to give
Margaret denn and her Margaret Brennan her due. She was
a horrible moderator, but she the elephant in the room.
You haven't answered the question. It's been two minutes of

(14:45):
blah blah blah blah. You how do you explain the discrepancy?
She again, she says, He says, Look, I'm sorry, I
got to follow up. You said you were in Asia.
You were not in Hong Kong, you were in Nebraska.
How do you explain that, and this was the weirdest

(15:08):
moment of the entire debate. His face froze, his mouth locked.
I thought his eyes were going to pop out of
his skull. And you can tell he was like frozen.
He was just literally frozen. He did not expect her
to He thought he was just gonna bs his way
for two minutes and then this came out of his mouth.

(15:30):
Roll cut three c Mike. The question was can you
explain the Nancy.

Speaker 5 (15:37):
All I said on this was is I got there
that summer and misspoke on this, So I will just
that's what I've said. So I was in Hong Kong
and China during the democracy protest went in and from
that I learned a lot of what needed to be
in governance.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Thank you, governor.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Now, notice something else besides this was an embarrassing gaff. Okay,
again he came across as an idiot, but notice he
learned a lot about governance from going to China. Repeatedly.
You know a lot of people missed that. Last night.
They went on about my god, look how we froze,

(16:19):
Look how we It was you know, a ridiculous answer.
I mean look, even CNN Pandem, everybody was like he lied,
and he got caught lying, and he had no answer
for his lies. But think about what he just admitted to.
First of all, he went to communist China thirty times

(16:39):
after the Temen Square massacre. Who the hell goes to
China thirty times after they slaughter their own people and
imposed this brutal dictatorship.

Speaker 4 (16:51):
I've become friends with school shooters. I've seen it. Look
the NRA. I was an NRA guy for a long time.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
That's I mean, that's gonna go down in history. I'm
telling you what, oh Man, friends with school shooters? Okay,
Tenam and Tim seven point fifty on the Great WRKO
Jeff Cooner Boston's Bulldozer. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, this is

(17:22):
a really hilarious text. By the way, you can text
us seven zero four seven zero seven zero four seven
zero Uh. This is from six one seven uh. And
it's it's pictures with chatter right next to it. So
there's a picture of Obama and beside it says I
need a VP dumber than me, and of course underneath

(17:43):
it is Joe Biden, and then right beside him it
says I need a VP dumber than me, And then
of course under him is a picture of Kamala, and
written beside her is quote I need a VP dumber
than me. And underneath sure is a picture of Tempon
Tim Waltz, and then right underneath that is Waltz quote,

(18:08):
I've become friends with school shooters. I mean, this may
be the all time record in stupidity, honestly, the gold medal. Okay,
this is another six one seven, Jeff. Last night my
phone was getting lots of texts from people saying how

(18:28):
blatantly biased the CBS moderators were. You think I was
amazed myself if you noticed. Whenever JD said something and
seemed to be doing well, the moderator would say, quote
Governor Waltz, do you want to respond to these accusations unquote,

(18:50):
as if JD had lied? But when Waltz said something,
the moderator would ask JD, quote Governor Waltz just made
the point as if it was a fact. What do
you have to say, Senator? I noticed that as well.
They kept implying the entire night that everything out of

(19:12):
Vance's mouth was a lie, and everything Tiene mean Tim
said was true, absolutely dead on. This is from Montreal, Canada,
five to one four, Jeff. And in fact, a friend
of ours value texted me this, Jeff. At one point
during the debate, I thought Waltz was going to end

(19:33):
up endorsing Vance one more and then I want to
go to the to the phone lines and this one. Now,
this is unbelievable. I mean, I believe this person, But
what I mean is it just you can't wrap your
mind around this. So it is from seven eight one, Jeff.

(19:55):
You know that as a true conservative, I try to
stay close to my friends in fam who are, for
lack of a better word, propagandized and low information people.
So I checked in with them this morning and they
believed that tampon Tim won the debate, and won the

(20:17):
debate hands down. Our only hope is that last night's
debate did move the needle for independence and those on
defense those voters, and that the evil Democrats can't steal
enough votes. That's our only prayer out of this. Who
the hell thought Waltz wanted debate last night? I mean,

(20:42):
I can play you the cuts. Even CNN said he lost.
Even the New York Times said that Vance took him
to the cleaners and beat him again and again. He
I want to throw this open. I want if you

(21:02):
honestly think I don't mean to troll the show, or
you know, to make a stupid comment just to get
on the air. Seriously, I want to invite someone to
call into the show who honestly watched the full debate
and thought that Tiena meant Tim, that Tim Waltz actually

(21:23):
won the debate, and not just won it, but one
it hands down A seven eighty one put it because
we're living in different universes six one, seven two, six,
six sixty eight sixty eight. Donald in Rainam, thanks for
holding Donald and welcomes the coroner.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
What a great morning it is.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
It is it is Donald.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
I have been pacing my living room for since five
point forty five this morning waiting to see you, because
I'll tell you I listened for the first time to
that debate last night and that was fastined. That guy
he's a crack at. Yeah, he knows his mannerism. Vance
is the man, and as far as I'm concerned, for
the next sixteen years, we could be good, doing great

(22:10):
a lot. I just I am fascinated. But to the
people of Massachusetts that are Democrats.

Speaker 6 (22:16):
You should be.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
Getting in line down at your town hall, city hall
and changing your selection. That's all I have to say
on that one. On another one, Donald Trump Junior needs
to tear the hat and a big thank you for saying, hey.

Speaker 3 (22:30):
Dad, you got to interview this fellaw.

Speaker 1 (22:34):
I'll need it. That's an excellent point because it was
Don Junior that really, you know, went to his father
and said, Dad, look, I know you're looking at Rubio,
and I know you're looking at some other people on
that shortlist, but this is the guy. I found the guy.
I become friends. Remember they became friends. He and JD
Vance and you know and Trump you know, didn't really

(22:56):
know JD. But Don Junior did, and the more time
they spent together, he they became very good friends. But
b Don Junior was like, this is my dad's successor,
Like this this is his vice president. He's got the
whole package. This is the guy. And I know for
a fact he was like, come on, Dad, Dad listen, No, Dad, please,
you gotta Dad, Please trust me when I tell you this.

(23:19):
Just have lunch with the guy. I'm not asking you
to do anything. Don't make a decision, not asking you
to do anything rash. Just give this guy an hour
and you'll see what I'm talking about. And apparently, so
Don Junior set up a lunch. They spent over. It
actually went to like it was supposed to be an
hour lunch. It went him like two two and a
half hours. And they said, right away, you can feel

(23:40):
the chemistry. Trump liked him from the get go, liked
his family, liked his story, his biography, his demeanor. I
just everything about him impressed him. And right away Trump
looked at Don Junior and said, you know what, I
may have just found my VP. That was after the
first meeting, and then of course they had more fall
out up meetings. And I mean, and now they're they're

(24:02):
very close, and you know they're ideological warriors and arms
and they're actually very good friends. But you're completely right, Donald,
Don Junior did his father and the country a huge favor.
And if I can just add one other quick thing
and then go right back to you, Donald, if you're
a Democrat, and I mean in particular, I'm not talking

(24:22):
about the crazy moonbats. These people are unreachable, but if
you're a blue collar Democrat, if you're a union Democrat,
if you're a working class, the middle class democrat, if
you're a Democrat that pays taxes, and you care about
your job, and you care about your future and your
children's future, how can you not exactly as Donald and Raynham,

(24:46):
just put it line up and say, you know what,
even if I don't like Trump, I'm going to vote
for JD. He's going to bring manufacturing back to the
United States. We're going to end all of the outsource
of our jobs. We're going to end all of this
illegal immigration that is driving down your wages. Your wages

(25:09):
and these illegals are stealing your jobs. All of your
tax money is being diverted to pay for free food
and free shelter, and free healthcare, and free prepaid visa
debit cards and a free education, everything on your dime.
Here is a guy that will defend the working middle

(25:33):
class of this country. I know Trump will do it,
but I'm saying JD in particular, policy after policy after policy.
I mean, I'm sorry, but if you have half a
brain and you're working middle class and you don't vote, okay,
you don't like Trump's personality, just for the sake of argument,

(25:55):
then vote for JD. Vote for the policies, vote for
the agenda, vote for your future, because I'm telling you
China is going to steal everything from us within ten years.
Vance is completely correct. We have to start putting America
and Americans first, and the working middle class. They don't

(26:20):
just have their champion in Donald Trump intellectually, ideologically, they
have their champion now in JD. And I agree with you, Donald,
after last night's masterful performance. If I'm a working class
union guy, a blue collar guy, I'm like, are we crazy?

(26:42):
We got to vote for JD. Vance one hundred times? Donald,
Am I wrong?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Not at all? And one other thing, and I'll let
you go. If anybody is out there that comes from
an alcoholic or a drug family, a parent, and that
man did not inspire you to give you hope that
there is hope out there, you need to stop praying.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
Amen.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (27:07):
Amen, Donald Grey call, great call.

Speaker 6 (27:10):
That was.

Speaker 1 (27:10):
And that's the other thing. It wasn't just intellectual firepower
that he brought. It was that he spoke from the
heart and that he opened himself up to the country.
That's I found it at times very moving when he
was like, look, you think I want for the country.
What I had to endure to see my mother addicted

(27:31):
to drugs, to have it destroy my family, how many
close friends, how many family members I lost to drugs?
Who odeed? You think I want this? In other words,
I'm going to give it everything I have to stop
the scourge of fentanyl and heroin and opiods that are

(27:52):
destroying our country. It was heart moving, sorry, heart it was.
It was heart wrenching. It was profoundly and I looked
at this and I said, this is not just a
smart man. This is a decent man who has never
forgotten who he is and where he comes from. And
I agree with Donald one thousand percent. There is hope.

(28:16):
There is a second chance. You can This is America.
We can achieve the American dream. If you suffer from alcoholism,
if you suffer from addiction, if you suffer from the
scourge of drugs, you can come back. You can come back.
That's why, ultimately, his story is one of hope and redemption.

(28:39):
That's why I think his biography is so powerful. And
you know, and he's he has the guts to share it.
He's not afraid, he's not ashamed of who he is
or what he you know, what he is and where
he came from. You know, it's not easy to talk
about being raised by a grandmother. Basically he had no parents.
I was raised by a grandmother.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
You know.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
That's why to him, family means. So that's why you
could tell he wants a lot of children. He loves
children because in a sense, he was deprived of a childhood.
You can see that, and so he wants to be
surrounded by children and he wants to give them the
joy and happiness that he never had as a child
growing up. And then the way the military turned his

(29:22):
life around and as he said, really made me the
man that I am today. Ah, I mean, my god,
I mean really, there should be a movie made about
this guy. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight agree, disagree. Jim in Florida. Thanks for holding
Jim and welcome.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Hey, how's it going. Thanks for me on my pleasure, Jed.
Here's something I want to add to this what you've
just been hitting on. I watched Fox after and they said, well,
I don't think it really A couple of them said,
didn't really move the needle. And here's where I disagree.
If you're thirty to fifty years old and you're kind
of independent conservative. But I've noticed because I'm older than that,

(30:10):
but I talked to a lot of people in that
age group. I noticed a lot of them don't connect
with Trump. He's from a different generation and they don't
they won't really understand him. And what Vance did yesterday
last night, to me, he came off as like a nephew.
What he did really well is when he answered that
question because they were trying to set him up, like,
you know, you said so many bad things about him before,

(30:31):
and then they were trying to make him into a flipper,
and he really described it well. To me, he came
off like a not a son that was distant, but
like a nephew that didn't understand his uncle. But then
through experience and getting and then seeing what Trump did
and the fire that he went through, he really answered

(30:51):
it well because in a way, he kind of still
he showed that he is of a different generation, but
that he grew into understanding Trump. And there's a lot
of people out there. I think I think this did
move the needle because I think what they saw was
there's still gonna be people who don't like Trump, his personality,
and don't even really totally understand him, but he made

(31:14):
a really good argument as to what the virtue of
Trump was. And then when you throw in dvance with it,
it's gonna make It's gonna give him the comfort zone
to vote for him, and they're gonna say, hey, you know,
Trump listens to this guy. He brought him on board.
And I just think it's a good That was a
really good moment, and I think he's gonna I think

(31:34):
it is going to move the needle. I think it's
going to bring in some people out there thirty to
fifty don't really fall politics that closely, but no, they
got to vote, and I think it's gonna bring him
in some of these people. I granted there's a lot
of people out there have already made their mind up,
but there's still probably five to seven percent of people
out there. I would say they could go either way.

(31:55):
So I thought that was really good last night.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I agree, and to second what you're saying, Jim, Look,
I think he reached out to independence. I disagree with
much of the analysis on Fox last night. I think
he did move the needle. Number one. I think he
appealed to independence. Undecided voters, as you put it, those
between thirty and fifty, some of them men who are

(32:21):
a different generation, who maybe like Trump's policies but don't
like his style or his personality. And JD said, hey, look,
you know they can relate to JD. And basically, look,
Trump's Trump's bear for four years. That's it. He's term limited,
so he's got four years. So you're looking at this
and you're saying, and he's the next guy up eight

(32:44):
years of him, and he's going to be influencing Trump
for four years. I can go with this. I also
think women, women that are still undecided, will look at JD.
And this is what he did last night. He defend
the media caricature, not just the FIM, but of Trump.

(33:05):
You look at a guy like JD and you're like,
what threat to democracy? What are these people talking about?
JD Vance has no threat to democracy. And the way
he explained Trump and I love the way he did.
He said, look, you don't like some of the stuff
that he does, you don't like some of his tweets.
Look at the record, he kept coming back to the record,

(33:28):
low inflation, higher take home pay, a secure border, a
booming economy, energy independence, no wars in the Middle East,
no wars in Russia and Ukraine. He can fix all
of our problems. He did it already, He's got a record.
I thought it was brilliant. And he kept coming back

(33:50):
to that as he said, saying, look, we're not arguing policy.
It's not some newcomer and what will that person do
or not do. We've got four years to judge him on.
And he reminded everybody. And he said this afterwards when
he was being interviewed by other journalists. He said, I
had really one goal. I had a couple goals, but

(34:10):
he said, one of my big goals was to remind
everybody Trump solved a lot of problems. They're trying to Caricaturema.
He's dictator, he wants power, and they're like, don't you
realize how many problems he solved. All this guy did
was solve problem after problem after problem. So we got

(34:32):
a lot of problems. He's the guy to solve them.
That's why we should vote for him. I thought, Jim,
the way he packaged the argument and the way he
conveyed it is going to resonate with a lot of people,
and it is going to move the needle. It's going
to move it in Pennsylvania. It's going to move it,

(34:54):
especially in Georgia and North Carolina, in Michigan, in Wisconsin,
in Minnesota, New Mexico, in Virginia. I think JD. Vance
did Trump a big favor last night. And watch look
and and Walt's imploding. It's not just that Vance did

(35:14):
so well, which he did, It's that Waltz collapsed. Waltz
frankly made a fool of himself last night. You combine
those two, I'm telling you you're gonna see a bump
for Trump and Vance. Final word to.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
You, Jim, I agree. And that generation. What what he
did is he connected them to Trump through him. And
he said, look, you may not totally understand this guy,
but look at the you know, the the testicles this

(35:49):
guy has put forth in his fight and he and
he mentioned it several times and I I and so
what I think he's he's done is he's he's made.
He's really made that that the testament. And when you
throw him in, like you said, his tone and everything
is more of that generation, and he can connect with
them and women. Yeah, I think I do, definitely think

(36:10):
it could moves a couple percentage points, which is crucial,
is what we need. We got to get the momentum
in this thing.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Jim, thank you very much for that call. Matt on
cape Cod thanks for holding Matt, and welcome Jeff.

Speaker 4 (36:27):
Good morning, Matt.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
How are you, my friend.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
I'm doing well, Jeff, very good.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Jeff.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Let me.

Speaker 6 (36:33):
I got a few things I'd like to contribute. Number One,
this debate I compare it to and it was reminiscent
of the Kennedy Nixon debate of nineteen sixty nine where
Nixon just looked totally, totally, just just deer in the headlights.

(36:59):
As they say, he just you know, a sweating, just
you know, nervous. It was all optics. The other thing
that came across to me was when I watched him,
was he almost looked like he was schizophrenic, that the
way he was acting. And he's going on and on
about you know, Minnesota, Minnesota.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Man.

Speaker 6 (37:19):
That's all he kept talking about was Minnesota, you know.
And I do think, and I agree with a lot
of the callers that I think JD left a lot
on the field. He had a lot of opportunities that
he missed. One of the big ones could have been well,
you know, he kept talking about Minnesota. He goes, JD
could have turned to him said.

Speaker 4 (37:37):
Well you could.

Speaker 6 (37:38):
You could have fooled me the way you at your
city and your state burn during the George Floyd riots.
But what really got me was when the debate was over,
I turned to MSNBC and basically Jeff all they could
do and and their talking point basically came down to

(37:58):
JD was a better is a better liar than Trump.
That's when I knew these people suffered a major, major
defeat last night, and they knew it. And JD shined.
Even though I think he left, he left, he had
opportunities that he missed. I agree with you know, probably
what your wife's going to say, and a lot of
other callers, but I really and I want to just

(38:22):
say one other thing that he brought out the issue
of drug addiction in fent nol and one of the
previous callers, a couple of callers ago brought it up.
That's a day you'll never forget, the day you get clean.

Speaker 1 (38:36):
Oh, Matt, great call.