Murder in Midtown

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I don't know about you, but what happened yesterday a
yai yai in midtown Manhattan. You want to talk about
a Hollywood or Netflix movie, come to real life. This,
to me is a fascinating story, frankly, on many many angles.
So here is now the absolute latest and it is

(00:23):
the biggest story in the country, and it is gripped
newspapers all over the world. Brian Thompson, fifty years old,
the CEO of United Healthcare. This is the largest and
I mean largest by far, the largest private health insurance

(00:44):
company in the United States, one of the biggest private
health insurance companies in the entire world. Was supposed to
He's based in Minnesota, comes to midtown Manhattan to go
to an investor's conference held by United Health At six
forty five in the morning yesterday, he is walking down

(01:09):
the sidewalk. He had left his hotel, the Marriotte to
go to the Hilton, which is a very ritzy, high
end hotel where the conference was being held and in
front of multiple eyewitnesses. Now, remember this is six forty
five in the morning in downtown Manhattan. There are already
a lot of people there. There are surveillance cameras everywhere.

(01:37):
A man dressed in black with a black face mask,
a distinctive gray backpack, coolly, calmly, in a premeditated, cold
blooded fashion, walks up behind Brian Thompson. Boom boom. He

(02:00):
shoots him in the leg. Thompson turns around like what
what just happened? He then shoots him in the back.
Thompson now falls on the ground. And this is the
part that's really chilling. His gun jams, but he is

(02:21):
so cool, so casual, so nonchalant, so methodical, almost mellow.
He just calmly, smoothly unjams his own gun and puts
another bullet into Brian Thompson. This was clearly the work

(02:41):
if not a professional, a semi professional, There's no doubt
about it. This was a targeted hit on the streets
of Manhattan. As I told Mike when I came in
and we were talking about, you know, the show today,
I said, number one, think of how brazen and this is.

(03:01):
This is an assassination of one of the most consequential,
high ranking CEOs in the United States, the largest private
health insurer in the country, in pretty much broad daylight.
I know it's early morning, but it's still six forty five.
I mean, this is Manhattan. There are people everywhere. And

(03:23):
then the gunman goes down an alley, jumps on an
East City bike, and then heads into Central Park, where
the surveillance camera footage is much more spotty, and apparently
makes his getaway. The police are still there's a massive
man hunt underway. They are still looking for the shooter.

(03:47):
There are many reasons why they believe. They're very confident
that they're going to get him. I hope they get him,
and I hope they get him very quickly. But what
everybody is talking about are several things. Number one, the premeditated,
calculated nature. This was clearly not a random shooting. This

(04:07):
was an execution. This was an assassination. Why because there
were so many pedestrians already on the street that if
this person was just a random shooter, he would have
shot many other people before finally specifically targeting Brian Thompson. Furthermore,
here is now the absolute latest, according now to surveillance

(04:31):
footage and what law enforcement is telling the media. The
shooter was staking out the Hilton Hotel where this investor's
conference was going to be held at about eight o'clock
that morning. He was waiting for Brian Thompson. He had
been there for at least five minutes. He had gone
to a Starbucks. The shooter goes to a Starbucks buys,

(04:56):
according to what police say, is a bottle of water
and two power bars. So he's waiting for Thompson. He's
so cool, he's so calm, he's so collected. I mean,
he's eating a power bar. You're drinking, you're eating, You're
just patiently waiting. And then as he scoped out the

(05:23):
Hilton Hotel, he was waiting for his mark. When Brian
Thompson was walking, you could tell he locked in. He
followed him, and that's when he shot him, almost point blank,
execution style. Now a couple of points and then I
want to open it up to the phone lines six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is

(05:45):
the number why the police are confident that this was
clearly not a random shooting, but a deliberate attack, a
targeted assassination. Is as I said, there were many people
on the streets, on the sidewalks that he had encountered
that were walking by him. If he was some crazy

(06:06):
guy who just wanted to shoot people for the sake
of shooting people. There were many other people he would
have shot. But furthermore, Thompson was a very prominent CEO
of a major, in fact, the largest healthcare company in
the country. Rejected many claims, many claims in fact, Thompson's wife,

(06:29):
Paul Atte Thompson. And by the way, they have two
young sons. I feel immensely sorry for that poor woman
and her children. They lost apparently what seemed to be
a loving father, a loving husband. The employees speak very
highly of him. People at United Healthcare speak very highly
of him. This man appeared to have a very good reputation,

(06:52):
at least among his colleagues and among his family and friends.
I'm just going by media reports. No anger, there was no.
As I said to Mike, I said, if this was
somebody who had been denied coverage and wanted to lash
out at the ceo, you wouldn't do it like this.

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This this shooter had a silencer. This shooter clearly had
some kind of military training. This shooter was extremely calm,
very methodical, very precise, very cold blooded. And in a way,
that's what I find most chilling about this, that you
could just take someone's life without batting an eye, a sociopath,

(07:41):
no conscience whatsoever. I mean, to the point that you're
so cool and calm about it that you get yourself
a bottle of water, a couple of power bars, and
the way he planned to get away, knowing where to go,
right down a back alley to get it, to get
on a bike to get the Central Park. Probably the

(08:02):
backpack I'm assuming is for a change of clothes and
then he can just blend into Central Park and eventually
get out through the subway or take a cab or whatever.
The point being, this was obviously extremely well planned, extremely
well executed. It has all the hallmarks of a hit job. Now,

(08:25):
why why would somebody want to put a mark a
hit on the CEO of United Healthcare? That's the question.
The motive is now going to determine a lot, and
of course the identity of the shooter once they capture him.
So to me, I'm looking at this and I'm asking

(08:47):
myself a couple of very basic questions. Why would somebody
want to kill this man? Who would be willing to
go far enough to pay someone and appears he was
paid to go and kill him in broad daylight? On
the streets of Manhattan in front of the Hilton. Furthermore, clearly,

(09:09):
this person knew his schedule. He knew when he was
going to leave his hotel, the Marriott, He knew approximately
when he was going to arrive at the Hilton or
near the Hilton. So this is someone who had pretty intimate, personal,
detailed knowledge of what he was going to do that
day and what he was doing in Manhattan. So again,

(09:31):
this is like a Hollywood movie. Now, according to police,
there are some problems with the shooting. It was in
a completely professional job. He apparently left his water bottle
fell out of his pocket and his cell phone fell
and they found that they recovered it in the alley.

(09:52):
If that's true, and I believe it is, then that's sloppy.
That's sloppy because they can get DA off the cell phone,
they can get DNA off the bottle, and they already
have a warrant they're coming through the cell phone. Unless
it's a false flag. Police are saying that happens quite
often when you're dealing with a professional or semi professional hit,

(10:15):
the phone falls out, they do it as a false
flag to try to pin it on somebody else or
to lead the police astray. Now it appears to be
a prepaid cell phone. And apparently he used a prepaid
debit card for the for the bike, the East City
bike that he took. Apparently, you have to use a

(10:36):
prepaid credit card or a credit card forgive me a
debit card, and he apparently used a prepaid credit card.
One of the reasons why he was able to so
easily access a prepaid credit card is because they have
so many migrants in New York and they're all using
prepaid credit cards. Six one seven two six six sixty

(10:59):
eight sixty eight is the number. I want you to
listen now. This is the Commissioner of the New York
Police Department, Jessica Tish, and she says, look, the evidence
is overwhelming. This was a hit job. This was targeted.
This was clearly premeditated. This was not a random act

(11:19):
of violence. Roll cut ten Mike.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
In Midtown Manhattan early this morning, fifty year old Brian Thompson,
the CEO of United Healthcare, was shot and killed in
what appears, at this early stage of our investigation to
be a brazen, targeted attack. This does not appear to
be a random act of violence.

Speaker 1 (11:45):
And I think it's pretty obvious. Now. I mean, again,
if we just look at the surveillance footage, a his demeanor,
the way he executed the shooting. But also, I mean
there's a lot. This is midtown Manhattan, as the New
Post put it, this is maybe the most trafficked place
on Earth. I mean, in the middle of the night,

(12:07):
there are people everywhere, never mind at six forty five
in the morning. It's teeming with people. So you can
see it. People are walking by him, you know, pedestrians.
So if he was just there to start shooting people,
believe me, he had you know, countless people he could
have shot. No, he he stalked the Hilton, He waited

(12:28):
for his prey, He cased out the Hilton. He knew
exactly what he was doing. He followed Brian Thompson. This
was a hit. Whether it was a paid hit or
a favor to a friend or whatever, we're gonna find
out obviously, but this was clearly a hit job. Now,

(12:50):
listen to Jessica Tesh again saying, I want to stress
people in New York. We don't have some crazy gunman
on the loose who's just gonna start shooting people. This
was an assassin, and he was like a semi professional.
He bided his time, he was lying in wait, and

(13:13):
when he saw his mark, he made his move. Roll
cut ten a mike.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
The victim was in New York City to speak at
an investor conference. It appears a suspect was lying in
wait for several minutes, and as the victim was walking
to the conference hotel, the suspect approached from behind and
fired several rounds, striking the victim at least once in
the back and at least once in the right calf.

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Many people passed the suspect, but he appeared to wait
for his intended target.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Yeah, there's no question. I mean, they released a video.
You can see the surveillance footage. There's no question. You
know that person was gunning, you know, pardon the pun,
but gunning for Brian Thompson. There's no question about it. Now,
let's just for a second leave a side that the
water bottle fell out and the cell phone fell out again,

(14:07):
the cell phone. The cell phone falling out could be
a false flag. It could be a way to try
to distract police. That's why the police are saying, you know,
I don't know how professional this guy is, and furthermore,
with many police officers, or at least my sources are
telling me. I said, you know, how professional was this?

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And they said, well, normally, you know, you don't shoot
the guy in the leg. That obviously was a mistake
on the part of this assassin. Usually it's two in
the chest, one in the head. You know, they're very calm,
very cool, very methodical, like what you just saw on
the surveillance footage. But they usually come very close and
it's boom, boom, right to the chest and then bang

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one final one to the head and that's your kill
shot and then they just escape. They get away. But
he planned his escape and he got away extremely quick.
To show you how quick, the execution takes place six
forty six am. By six forty eight he's already on

(15:14):
his East City bike heading into Central Park basically within
two minutes. Yeah, I mean, I think about this two
one hundred and twenty seconds. He's pretty much almost in
Central Park with his backpack, dumps the bike or whatever
he does with the bike, and change his clothes and

(15:35):
then it's really hard to track him down. Roll cut
ten B Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
The suspect fled first on foot, then on an e
bike and was last seen in Central Park on Center
Drive early this morning.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
So let me ask all of you two questions, and
I want to take calls right away after the break.
What do you think was the motive? I'm just curious.
I know is speculation, but what do you think is
the motive for this very brazen assassination? And was this
a professional hit? Chob Is New York City now becoming Moscow?

(16:25):
This is what happens in Moscow. This is what happens
in the in Kiev, the capital of Ukraine. This is
you know, this is what happens in Mexico City. This
is what happens in Bogota, Colombia, where you want, you know,
prominent people are just executed on the streets by paid assassins,
whether professional or semi professional. Is this now what New

(16:49):
York City is turning into? I'm just curious, and what
the hell? Let me throw this log on the fire,
because that's one of the things that struck me right away.
Look at the level of Look at the level of
violence in New York. An execution, an assassination in midtown Manhattan.
It has shocked really the country and much of the world. Brazen.

(17:11):
Six forty six am in the morning, the CEO of
the country's largest, biggest private health insurance company just gunned
down practically at point blank range, which seems by an assassin.
That's all the evidence seems to be pointing that way. Okay,
I just want to make one final I promise super

(17:33):
small point. As you know, we have a lot of
veterans that listen to the show, a a lot of
law enforcement and a lot of veterans, and you know
I love all of you. I love you guys. The
only reason why I'm mentioning this my messenger, my feet
is getting blown up with Vets Police officers. My email

(17:55):
inbox is full. People are texting in Vets Police saying, Jeff,
this was clearly a professional job. There is no question. Uh,
this person definitely knew what he was doing. This was
not some you know, gangbanger. I don't know some random,

(18:16):
you know, disaffected person who just was denied cover. May
have hired the person to do it, yes, but this
is not just some random disaffected person denied coverage. And
you know what, I'm going to teach this guy a
lesson the way the shooter handled the gun, how calm
how cool, how collected, the whole the planning of the escape,

(18:38):
just everything, the whole nature of the shooting and the murder,
the staking out of the Hilton, everything, the planning, the preparation.
There were some mistakes, but they go this is no amateur.
I mean, that's all I've been getting now, really for
the last thirty five minutes six one seven two, six

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sixty eight sixty eight. Let's go to Thomas in California. Thomas,
thanks for holding, and welcome Morgan. Jeff Hi Thomas.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
So, I don't think his gun actually jammed. When you're
using a silencer, sometimes we'll use subsonic bullets, which have
a little less powder in them, so they don't quite
kick back the mechanism to chamber the next round, trying
to keep down on some of the noise.

Speaker 1 (19:31):
Interesting, So you're saying you don't think the gun jammed
at all, right.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
No, I think he was expecting it. You have a
lower powder powder ratio in those bullets to make them
less loud.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
I guess, okay, interesting, Wow, Okay, interesting, Thomas. I'm just
curious what do you make of you know, I mean,
this is you know, this is not Joe Schmo. This
is the CEO, you know, apparently very well liked. I mean,
I'm going to get into it. There was an investigation
DJ there was accusations of insider trading. The wife is

(20:10):
saying that he was getting death threats. So I'm not saying,
you know, he's a saint. I'm not saying this guy
is walks on water. But I'm just stating from everything
I've read, apparently very successful ceo, loved by many people, employees, colleagues, friends,
family members, that this would happen in downtown midtown Manhattan,

(20:34):
in downtown New York at six forty six in the morning,
in front of all those cameras, in front of all
those witnesses, right there on the sidewalk, Thomas, are we
becoming a Third world banana Republic? You know, as I said,
what are we now? Russia? What is this Moscow? What
is this Bogata, Columbia? I mean, so now you're not

(20:57):
even safe to go to a conference. I mean, apparently
the Marriott Hotel was just what is it half a
street away from the Hilton. He gets out, has breakfast,
gets out, he's off to an investor's conference, and before
you know it, he's dead. I mean, Thomas, really is
is this now the new New York and the new

(21:18):
America we have to live in?

Speaker 3 (21:22):
If we let the Democrats get any kind of power back,
it will be.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I mean, if I'm living in New York, wouldn't you
be embarrassed? I mean, this is what Eric Adams and
Kathy Hokel and Joe Biden have reduced your city and
your state to. Now Trump is coming back and hopefully
he's going to start cleaning this up. But Tomas, Holy mackerel,
I mean no, really, if this guy's not safe, then
who the hell is safe? Thomas, thank you very much

(21:48):
for that call. I really appreciate it. You know again,
I mean this is Look. Fox News is located right
like what is it? Two blocks away, a block and
a half away. Most of them may media their headquarters
is literally a block or two blocks away. This is
Midtown Manhattan. You know it's it's it's near Wall Street.

(22:09):
It's near the biggest legal firms in the country, the
biggest financial institutions in the country. You've got five star hotels,
you know, top hotels. I mean, if there's gonna be
one place that should be safe, it's got to be that. Look.
You don't me. I don't care for the elites on

(22:30):
Main Street over Wall Street any day. But I'm just saying,
if if they're not safe in midtown, where the hell
are they safe? Six one seven two six x sixty
eight sixty eight, Mark in Connecticut, Thanks for holding Mark
and welcome.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
Yeah, good morning, Jeff, Hi Mark. You know how many
hits there's been in New York City has been going
on forever. There's a classic earmark, so you know, obviously
I'm not saying, you know, new or anything, but how
many hits have there been in New York City? You
can't count them. I mean, this has been going on
forever in New York City. They're gonna have to find

(23:10):
out what mister wonderful was into and trace it backwards
to find out, you know, Okay, was he in the mob?
Was he involved with you know, foreign interests that he
ripped off? I mean, what did he do that warrented?
Somebody put a hit on him. Obviously that was a
professional job the guy, you know, give him his kudos.
He got the hell out of there and it was

(23:31):
a professional job. I mean for a psychopath, you know,
I'm not praising a cycle path.

Speaker 1 (23:37):
I no, no, I hear you. No, no, But Mark,
look here you're making an excellent Well look, you're right,
there are obviously there's been a lot of hits in
New York generally, though, Mark, you know, and you're right. Look,
let's not be naive. You have the mob, you have
all sorts of things, but it tends to be mob related.
It's gangs, it's you know, a gang member putting out
a hit on another gang member. I mean, the reason

(23:58):
why this is the one of the big stories in
the world is it's a CEO of a massive I
think there what number four on the Fortune five hundred.
I mean, you're talking about a major CEO of a
major international company. What was it? It's revenue is almost four
hundred billion dollars. So you know what I mean. This

(24:20):
is not you know, the Brutsi crime family versus the
Jenave's crime family and they're fighting over you know, brothels
and gambling and you know, in little Italy. So you're
talking about you know, one of the top chief executive
officers in the country and he's getting you know, he's

(24:41):
gonned down on the sidewalk like a dog on his
way to an investors conference. But you know you are right.
I mean, it's there's been many hits. It's the nature
of the hit and the person that got hit. I
think that's what's shocking everybody. But Mark, I want to
ask you this, what kind of a human being?

Speaker 2 (25:01):
No?

Speaker 1 (25:01):
Really, you go to a Starbucks? Lah did Yeah, I'll
have a bottle of water. Sure, give me a couple
of power bars. Because I'm in your mind, You're like,
because I'm gonna kill a guy in about three minutes.
Wh Yeah he's dead, Yeah, no problem, dad da da, Oh,
there he is. Okay, I've been waiting for him. Finally, Okay,
let's go, and you just walk up behind him. Now,

(25:22):
you know, he's got a wife. You know, he's got
two young kids, two sons. He's got a mother, he's
got family, he's got siblings. You know, he's got friends.
Apparently Mark at the conference when they found out that
he was killed, at least among them, he was loved.
I mean, cops said they were very emotionally. Was they

(25:43):
were crying, he was They were like they were just
bawling and one after another. I mean, you got to
read it. They're all going to the media saying I'm
telling you He was a nice guy. Had dinner with
him recently. Always asked about my parents, my family. It
was great with bonuses, treated his collie well. His employees, well,
I mean they're mean. They're they're mourning, they're weeping when

(26:06):
they found out. So all I'm just saying is whatever
he was involved in, you follow a guy, you know,
he's got a wife, he's got kids, he's got friends,
he's got colleagues, and you shoot them like you're shooting
a rat, like it's you're just putting in it, like
you're stomping on a cockroach. But it's just nothing. It's

(26:27):
just boom, boom. And then let me do one more
boom as he's on the ground, and off you go,
jump on a bike and you go into Central Park.
La Da da bye bye. Mark. What kind of a
human being does this.

Speaker 4 (26:42):
Look? You can't understand it, But there are people that
have you know, no soul, No you know anything? Uh
you know? Have you ever read the Octopus, the book
the Octopus Recilian Mob. No, there was one hit man
they were talking about. He did he killed fifteen people.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, it is the murder really that
is shocking the country and in many ways of the world,
it looks like again, I'm just going by what the
police are saying and the you know, the surveillance footage
and uh, the targeted assassination of Brian Thompson. He is
the CEO of the largest private health insurer in the country,

(27:28):
one of the biggest health insurance companies in the entire world.
Fifty years of age. He was gunned down just outside
of the Hilton Hotel in Midtown, Manhattan. He had came
out from the Marriott where he was staying, which was
maybe a couple hundred feet away, half a street or whatever,
and he went to the Hilton where their investors conference

(27:49):
was being held. He flew in from Minneapolis to New
York just for this conference, and the shooter was waiting
for him, waited, stiked out the whole hotel, followed him,
and then with a silencer on a gun, shot him
and murdered him, killed him execution style. Let's go back

(28:10):
to Mark in Connecticut. Mark is saying, look, Jeff, it's
a world. I don't know, it's a world. Obviously most
of this audience, all of this audience, I would hope
doesn't know. But it's the world of a hitman. And
Mark in Connecticut is saying, look, Jeff, there's a book
called The Octopus, which is about the Mark, the Sicilian

(28:31):
mob or the Italian mob, Sicilian Mobacilian body.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
They spread their technicals out, you know, the Octopus. That's
where they got the name.

Speaker 1 (28:40):
And you're saying, there was a hit man that killed
fifteen people, Mark, please pick up where you left off.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, he killed the thirteen for business and two for pleasure,
now pleasure. I was shocked when I read that and stuff.
There was another guy, a don. A cart got loose
and ran his nine year old son's leg over the don.
It was an accident. The kid wasn't killed or nothing.

(29:08):
He heard, his leg wasn't even broken. The don killed him,
his wife, all their immediate family and their in laws,
killed all their animals, and burned their house down. This
is a mentality that we don't understand. But there's a
lot of people out there who have no more empathy
for a human being is just stepping on an insect.

(29:30):
They're out there. I mean, it's scary. I don't know,
you know, I don't understand any of it. But it's
it is fascinating to think, you know, to read about
these people. That guy had no compunction about the guy's
family or anything like that. And I'll tell you, Brian,
he would the CEO. He was into something. They're gonna

(29:51):
trace it backwards. They're gonna find out what he was
into and what he did to quote earn this. You
know what I mean. I'm not say you know what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
No, you're not saying he deserved it. You're saying what
motivated this person for someone to hire him to kill
Brian Thompson, I got you. Let me ask you this
final question mark again to push it even one layer back. Okay,
the killer. I think you've really very concisely but very
accurately painted a portrait of what these people are like.

(30:23):
Say it's a disgruntled employee. Say it's someone who has
denied coverage. And apparently that's what the wife is saying
that he got a lot of death threats. He was
getting a lot of them the last couple of weeks
because of his decision to have denied I don't know
how many people, but quite a few people health insurance
coverage for operations, surgeries, treatments, whether for cancer or whatever.

(30:46):
So he had enemies. How do you justify hiring someone
to kill the CEO of a health insurance company. I mean,
you've explained the mind of a of a of a
hit man. I got that.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
Now.

Speaker 1 (31:03):
Look, you know, obviously you're upset, you got leukemia. I'm
just making something up, pancreatic cancer. They're denying you coverage.
You're angry, you're gonna, you know, lash out. But to
the point of paying someone potentially to kill him. To me,
it's the person that hires the hit man. That's the
pun I can't really get because you know, I would

(31:26):
think that person would at least have some conscience, some scruples,
some sense of morality. Am I wrong? Mark?

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Yeah? Yeah you are. They have no There are people
who who have no no like feelings or anything like that.
That little voice in them is silent, and it just
points inward towards them. And to hire somebody professional like him,
that's not cheap. It had to be somebody who was
in cash. They hired that guy. It's not a cheap job, right,

(31:58):
you know, he's he makes his living doing that.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
Mark as always, thank you, Mark. You should call more often.
You're a really good call Really, you're a very good caller. Mark,
thank you very much for that call. George in Maine.
Thanks for holding George, and welcome.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
I normally don't call up anybody, but I clipped this
article from the Wall Street Journal on eleven thirteen, that's
November thirteenth, a couple about a month ago, and it
starts on page A one and it continues on page
A nine and the title is the Sickest flea private

(32:41):
medicare switching to regular medicare shifted course from insurers such
as United Healthcare to the taxpayers. And it's a lengthy article.
You're not going to be able to read it while
you are on the air. But one of your if
you have a Guy Friday or Gail Friday, Oh, Guy Friday,

(33:04):
can read it and then that kind of make a
couple of notes and then give it to you. And
then in the same Wall Street Journal on B six,
which is a business section, same date, it's DOJ challenges
United health helps three point three billion deal for Amidis.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
George, you're very honestly very smart. You're a very very
smart person, George. George. I mean, I get the Wall
Street Journal and I also have the subscription online, so
I'm going to read that article. I can track it
down online and I'll find it within a minute. But
I'm very happy you mentioned what you just said. Why
because this is a big side of this story that

(33:48):
the media is really not giving a lot of play to,
and you just touched on it. So apparently Brian Thompson
and other senior executives at United health Care were under
investigation by the Department of Justice. So when he was
gunned down yesterday, in fact, he had the DOJ investigating

(34:10):
him and other executives. And apparently what they were looking
at was insider trading. And here's exactly what the what
the DOJ was looking into. Apparently, Brian Thompson and several
other executives got news that the Department of Justice was investigating,

(34:31):
as you pointed out, one of their big acquisitions that
they said consolidated their position in the market so much
that it violated anti trust laws and so and so
they knew, oh, no, we're going to have a big
Department of Justice investigation for us violating you know, anti

(34:52):
trust laws. And then because they knew that this investigation
was coming and it was going to tank the stock
price because everyone gets nervous, Oh my god, what they're
being investigated. Oh oh, dump the stock, Dump the stock before
the shareholders knew, before the public knew. That's when Brian
Thompson and others sold over one hundred million dollars worth

(35:17):
of stock, and one of them, not Thompson. One of
them made eighty five million dollars off of this. Apparently
Thompson made over eleven million. I think it was at
eleven point one million, according to I believe this is
the New York Post so and it was the first

(35:37):
time that he had sold his stock since he became
the CEO in twenty twenty one. So shareholders were livid
because they're like, hold on, you guys, sell this off
when you know what investigation is coming, and that's going
to tank the stock price. We lose our shirts, but

(35:59):
you guys take out like bandits. So you've got potentially
very disaffected employees who may have had shares, shareholders who
felt they were left holding the bag, or you've got
people who were denied coverage. So there's a lot of
potential suspects here. But you know, this guy wasn't a saint.

(36:20):
I mean, I'm sorry, I'm not. Look, I know, he's
got a wife, he's got children, he's got family. I'm
not trying to be smirched the guy. But he was
under Department of Justice investigation for insider trading and for
violating antitrust laws, and that I think could be a
major reason why somebody put out a hit on him. George,

(36:40):
what say you?

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Yeah? But so you followed the article and I did not.
The main article was a disaffected sons and daughters of
their mothers who have reached the age of ninety six,
ninety five, ninety four and they only had a couple
of months to live, and you know, the you know,

(37:02):
night of healthcare kind of made it almost they kind
of almost dropped them. But I'm not illegal, you know, Beagle,
But you also know Jeff Europe in Boston Stewart's Stewart's Hospitals,
similar story.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
No, it's an excellent George, excellent point.

Speaker 5 (37:21):
Really Also, and also who was one of the board
members on Stewart's Baner was the former Speaker of the
House the whole system, miss co Op. And he was
the guy from Stuart's who is about fifty five years old.
He married his trophy wife about maybe twenty five years old,

(37:43):
twenty five years younger than him, And while the proceedings
were going on and closing all the hospitals and causing
all of this this away, he was in Paris, France,
watching the Olympics, watching his twenty five old a twenty
six year old wife performing the equestrian things, you know, trials. Also,

(38:08):
you're from Canada, I believe, Jeff right.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Originally, yes, Joe, Okay, there.

Speaker 5 (38:13):
Was about five six years ago, maybe less than that,
there were two billionaire husband and wife team and they
were hung in their own house. I don't know if
that's ever been resolved, I said, billionaires. I don't the article.
I have someplace. Maybe it's very someplace. You know.

Speaker 4 (38:31):
You're right.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
It was a big it was a big story up
in Canada. They were, let's just put it way, mega wealthy. Okay,
whether they were billionaires or almost billionaires. No, And that's
been unresolved. That was a big case in Canada, similar
to this. That was huge, huge, everybody was talking about it.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
No.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Look, George, I think there's no question there is so
much corporate corruption and so much corporate greed that this
is I think what's starting to happen is starting to
spill over onto the streets, you know, and that's why
we're starting to resemble like some of these you know,
Eastern European dictatorships, because they're run by oligarchs, and you know,

(39:09):
we're being slowly run by oligarchs. And I think that's
that's the point. You've got so much corruption now with
not just United Healthcare, but all of these big health
insurance companies. I mean, this is disgusting. And you know,
you're right, there are horror stories. You know, you have grandmothers,
grandfathers in their nineties dying of cancer, and then they

(39:32):
just say, well, what's the point of us ensuring them?
They're going to die anyway, So the most cost effective
thing is just pull the plug. Now they're on their own,
and you know, and it's easy for them to say,
but that's someone's mother, that's someone's father, that's someone's grandmother, grandfather,
and you know, I don't know, we don't know why
this person did it. I don't like to speculate, but

(39:55):
it is it, you know, is it beyond the bounds
of credulity to say, hey, some guy sees his grandmother
dying and United Healthcare says we're not going to cover
you anymore. And he says, you know, what the hell
with this guy twenty five thousand dollars and take him out.
I'm not saying you do it. I'm not you say,
I'm not justifying it. But I could easily see that

(40:16):
as a motive. Now, that's what his wife is saying.
They asked, the police called and talk spoke. Their name
is Paulette Paulie. She goes by Paulie, Paulie Thompson, fifty
one years old. They got two kids, two sons, And
they said, was could you think of a motive? And
she said, well, he was getting a lot of death threats.
And they're like what, They go, oh yeah, and he goes, well,

(40:38):
over what lack of coverage? Either they were cutting off
people's coverage or they were denying them coverage or whatever
it was. But he's the CEO, and he has to
make decisions on who do we cover, who do we
not cover, and who do we honor and who do
we not honor. And they found out where we live,
and they kept calling us at Homely call him on

(41:00):
the lawn on his cell phone. They call him at
the office and they're saying, I'm gonna kill you. And
she said he was worried. She was worried, and this
is a nightmare now for her and her family. Six
one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. And
just on that note, Mike is the one that raised
this to me at our pre show production meeting. He said, Jeff,

(41:24):
you know, have you been following this whole Brian Thompson assassination. Yeah,
of course, and who isn't He says, you know, I've
been on Twitter X all night last night, and he goes,
so much of what you're seeing on Twitter and X
is this guy had it coming. And Mike is saying,

(41:44):
this is what I find most disturbing about all this.
This guy was a human being. He had a wife,
as I said, he got two sons, he's got family,
he's got a mother, he's got you know, colleagues who
did apparently revere and respect and love the guy, and
just the way people are just yeah, he's a healthcare
insurance company ceo. Better dead than alive. God, somebody finished

(42:09):
him off. Good for him, Good for him. I mean,
this is sick how casually, just without blinking an eye,
people will just jump on social media and cheer on
the brazen execution and murder and assassination of a human being.

(42:32):
If he was corrupt, investigate the guy, charge him, convict him,
and put him behind bars. But you don't shoot the
guy in the chest for God's sake, on the streets
of midtown Manhattan. I'm sorry this is not Belarus, at
least not yet. Chuck in Concord, thanks for holding Chuck,

(42:54):
and welcome.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Good morning, Jeff. I want to say good morning till
Kevin might bos Okay. The first thing I want to
say is let's make private healthcare great again. I want
to know where the NIH is and where doctor Fauci
was and what they you had to do with it.
Private healthcare can go a long ways and make a

(43:19):
lot of money in our country for the private citizens
and stuff. Something's really sneaky about this. I want to
ask doctor Fauci what tot he plays in this.

Speaker 1 (43:32):
Well apparently I don't know if you've heard this, Chuck,
but Biden, I'm just going again by media reports. Politico
is reporting this other liberal outlets who are very close
to Biden and his team. So this is coming from
outlets with access to Biden and his people. Biden now
is considering a preemptive pardon. I'm not saying anything to

(43:56):
do with this assassination, but just in general, a preemptive
pardon for Fauci, for Adam Schiff, for a Jack Smith,
the special counsel for Liz Cheney, Liz Cheney. So, but
getting back to your point about Fauci, Biden is saying, nah,

(44:19):
he needs a preemptive pardon. Basically, what a preemptive pardon is, Chuck,
is a pardon on anything Fauci has ever done his
entire life. What he's done, may have done, could have done,
any actual crimes, potential crimes. He's going to pardon everything.

(44:40):
So it looks now like he's going to pardon all
of his friends and maybe parton all of his family. Now,
nothing official, he hasn't done it yet, but I'm just
telling you that's Politico is reporting this, and many other
outlets are saying, no, he's talking about a blanket preempt
What he did for Hunter, he now wants to do

(45:02):
for Tony Chicken, little, for Fauci, and for Liz Cheney,
and for Adam Schiff, and you just go right down
the list for his entire family he's even talking Jack Smith,
the Special counsel, So that makes men right away. Fauci's
guilty of sin. We know it. That's why he's trying
to protect him. Adam Schiff is guilty of sin because

(45:25):
he lied about the Russia collusion hoax and tried to
frame Trump, so he's got to protect him. Then what
the hell Liz Cheney. Everyone's like, well, why is Liz
Cheney on the list. I'll tell you why. Liz Cheney's
on the list because she destroyed evidence on the January
sixth committee. And that's what's going to come out when
Trump is inaugurated on January twentieth, and if Cash Patel

(45:48):
is the FBI director and Pam Bondi's the attorney general.
That's why now he's got to protect Liz Cheney Jack Smith.
He's got to protect Jack Smith because Jack Smith was
given a direct order by Merrick Garland and by the
big guy Joey, I want you to get Trump at
all costs. Make it happen. So now they want to

(46:10):
do a preemptive pardon for everybody. Chuck Ah. That's how
this criminal gang rolls. Final word to you, chuck Ah.

Speaker 6 (46:23):
Okay, I'm here at the JPVA socialized healthcare and I'm
gonna visit doctor Whack. I'm gonna visit doctor Quack. I'm
gonna visit my witch doctor. And I'm gonna visit my
voodoo doctor. God bless you all.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Thank you, Chuck, God bless you, my friend. I mean,
it's I'm telling you, it's a gang of thieves. It
really is. I don't want to get too off topic.
I want to, but just you know, you read this
and go, are you guys serious? You want to do pardons?
No one's been charged with a crime yet, and you're
already partner everybody, Hugh phony, you fraud you six one

(47:05):
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, let
me very quickly. I want to throw this log on
the fire Fox News is reporting and now all the
other media outlets have picked it up as well. Uh CNN,
but everybody local media in New York, most of the
papers are now reporting this that apparently on the casings

(47:29):
they found three shell casings. It was there was deny,
depose and defend were found on the casings. That this
is what apparently what he engraved in the ammunition. The
shooter Deny depose and defend. I don't know what that means.

(47:56):
I mean, I know it denied, deposed, defend means, But
what I'm saying is, I don't know what that's in
relation to deny what the pose. I'm thinking maybe what
deposition is that part of the DOJ probe or the
DJ investigation into insider trading. I don't know. I'm just

(48:17):
and defend. Is it what defend the company at all costs?
I don't know. I'm just curious. Do any of you
have a theory what you think deny the pose and
defend means and why that will be put on the
ammunition unless again it's a potential false flag, put something

(48:37):
there to take police off the trail. You always have
the pros do do that. I mean it's you know,
they they know how to detract, they know how to deflect,
and they know how to distract. Six one seven, two
sixty six, sixty eight, sixty eight is the number. So yeah,
it's everywhere now, chilling messages found on shell casings at

(48:57):
the scene, and so it's deny, I depose and defend
Vance in Germany. Thanks for holding Vince, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Warren.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
Jeff.

Speaker 7 (49:11):
Deny, I deposed. Defend is based on a book Daily.

Speaker 8 (49:17):
Mails reporting it at a bear similarity to the title
of the twenty ten book on why insurance companies don't
pay claims and what you can do about it, called deny,
called delay, deny, and defend.

Speaker 7 (49:33):
What I wanted to bring up is the fact that
the level of professionalism is really earmarked by the number.

Speaker 8 (49:42):
Of mistakes made.

Speaker 9 (49:44):
So the fact that the guy went into a Starbucks
prior to the hit and actually purchased something exposing himself
to be identified. Now I know he's wearing a mask,
and I know that that doesn't really raise a lot
of flags when someone comes in with mask on these days,
especially in New York City. But the fact that people,

(50:05):
you know, they got cameras everywhere.

Speaker 7 (50:09):
You've got r F I D scanners, so anything electronic
can be picked up, they can trace you. It just
it just gives you more exposure. Now you know they
talk about the subsonic ammunition