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December 13, 2024 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Kooner contrary. Okay, my friends, a lot to
talk about big news yesterday on multiple fronts, but without question,
one of the biggest, if not the biggest story. And
you're not going to see this in the so called
mainstream media, the establishment fake news media complex, which is desperately,

(00:25):
desperately trying to bury and suppress this story. They can't,
so the Department of Justice Inspector General Michael Horowitz yesterday
released a report about the FBI's involvement in January sixth.

(00:47):
And now we know, my friends, exactly why Christopher Wray
resigned on Wednesday, in other words, a day before this
report was to be released, because Christopher Ray is a liar.

(01:08):
And he's not just a liar, he is a perjurer
who lied under oath in front of congressional committee after
congressional committee, and frankly deserves to be in jail. Now
you know why the Biden regime is floating preemptive pardons
for Chris Ray. People like, what does Chris Ray need

(01:30):
a preemptive pardon? Now we know, along with Hillary Clinton,
along with Adam Schiff, and you can run down the
whole list, everybody now wants a preemptive pardon. Christopher Ray
repeatedly told both the Senate and the House when pressed,

(01:53):
we're there undercover FBI agents, were their FBI assets. We're
there quote unquote confidential human sources deployed on January sixth,
whether within the crowd or were any of them entering
or breaching the capital on that day? His answer none, zero,

(02:17):
not to my knowledge. He's a liar. As Inspector General
Michael Horowitz pointed out in his official report, at a minimum,
there were twenty six FBI confidential human sources FBI assets

(02:38):
that were planted in the crowd that day. In fact,
Horowitz explains that through the report's findings, they found that
FBI field offices picked out certain key sources FBI assets

(02:59):
and had them specifically go to Washington on January sixth
to stalk, spy and surveil people they identified, I swear
to you as quote unquote domestic terrorists, so certain Trump supporters,
And we want to find out the names, because parts

(03:22):
of the report are redacted. We want to know who
did they think that it went on that fateful day?
Was a domestic terrorist? Because throughout the report he keeps
saying again and again the FBI believed certain individuals were
domestic terrorists. They were going to go to the rally

(03:43):
in support of Donald Trump to not certify the election,
and so they had FBI confidential sources surveil these people
blend themselves into the crowd, pretend to be Magus supporters,
and this is how they were able to spy and
surveill what happened on that faithful day. Furthermore, not only

(04:09):
were there twenty six that we know of undercover confidential
human sources working on behalf of the FBI, at least four,
not one, not two, not three, at least four breached
the capital. They deliberately went into the capital, okay, with

(04:34):
the with the rest of those with the rest of
the protesters. And yet not one of the four was charged,
Not one of the four FBI assets, the FBI confidential
sources were charged even though they they broke the law.

(04:55):
So you've got j six ers and I this is
literally what happened, including grandmothers who walked around the Capitol
for a couple of minutes taking a picture with a
police officer by the way, invited in by the Capitol police.

(05:17):
This needs to be stressed again and again doors opened,
waved in, come on in, come on in, as they
opened the doors. And so these old ladies are taking
pictures of the beautiful paintings and the architecture. They walk
around for five or ten minutes. They're even taking a
selfie with a smiling Capitol Hill police officer. Ten years

(05:39):
in jail. The FBI spent two, three, in some cases
four years tracking down Granny, many of them wearing face masks,
so they had to know all this effort to well
imagine this person without a face mask and all the
digital technology, and then they would track them down, and

(06:01):
they're rotting in prison for years sentenced while we now
know definitively according now to the FBI's own admission in
this explosive report by the Inspector General Michael Horowitz, FBI
undercover assets, FBI confidential sources stormed and breached the Capitol Nothing. Nothing,

(06:31):
not even a slap on the wrist. Nothing. Now what
the report does not address, And this is where I'm
hoping Cash Ptel, once he is confirmed as the new
FBI director, will go and do an a thorough, complete,
exhaustive investigation and this time overcome the institutional FBI stonewalling

(07:00):
and ask the big questions, which is why weren't these
four charged? Who were these four? And were they egging
the crowd on? Allah Rayepps? And this is the one
that really sticks in my crawl. We have ray Epps

(07:22):
on video, it's indisputable, wearing a Maga hat and telling
the j sixers stormed the Capitol, stormed the capitol. In fact,
he said it the day before the rally, We've got
to storm the capitol. We've got to take the capital.
And then the day of he's yelling and screaming, go

(07:44):
get him, get inside, go inside, go inside. Rey Epps,
according now to matiple media reports, was clearly an undercover
FBI asset. Why did he only get a slap on

(08:04):
the wrist? Why is granny rotting ten years in jail?
But this guy who clearly incited the mob, who clearly
incited people to storm the building, we've got him dead
to rights, and he gets a lousy slap on the wrist. Oh,

(08:26):
practically nothing in terms of his punishment. And that's only
after years and years and years of massive public pressure
to hold this guy accountable. I want to know, once
and for all, how much of an FBI asset Ray
Epps was, who controlled him, who directed him, who oversaw him,

(08:47):
what field office did he report to? And what did
Christopher Ray know and when did he know it? Now,
the conclusion here is in exorable. The report is damning
as hell, and by the way, again, a complete vindication

(09:08):
for Donald Trump, a complete vindication of those who've been
defending the j sixers. Frankly Cooner country again, we should
take a bow. I'm serious, complete vindication of everything that
we've been saying since January sixth, twenty twenty one. For
the last almost four years, the FBI played a pivotal,

(09:34):
instrumental role in infiltrating the crowd, in inciting and egging
the crowd on, and in even storming the Capitol. And
yet they have tried to hide this fact in the shadows.
Now did the January sixth committee of Benny Thompson and

(09:56):
Adam piece of Chef and Liz Cheney did they they
know about the FBI's involvement, and that's why they destroyed
so much evidence. Cash Ptel needs to investigate and find
out the January six ers. Based now on this evidence,

(10:19):
every single conviction should be overturned, every single one of them.
Our own government framed the protesters. Our own government infiltrated
the protests. Our own government was involved in the storming
of the capitol, and then they tried to frame and

(10:43):
blame Donald Trump. This was planned, it was coordinated, it
was premeditated. Free the J six ers. Okay, A couple
lines are open if you want to jump on six
one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight. I mean,

(11:06):
I'm not surprised. I know many of you are not surprised.
It is now, however official, there is no getting around it.
The Department of Justice, the department that the FBI is
based in, its own inspector General, looked at the role
of the FBI in January sixth. It was tasked by

(11:28):
Congress to do so, and Michael Horowitz, the Inspector General
the AG came out with absolutely bombshell conclusions that the
FBI had undercover assets, undercover agents, twenty six of them
they found so far that penetrated, infiltrated, and were part

(11:53):
of the J six protests. In fact, they were spying
on people in the crowd. They were surveilling. Four of
them literally breached the capital. We know about ray Epps
how many other ray apps were there? That's the question

(12:13):
now that needs to be asked. Now. Furthermore, it's now
obvious that the J six Committee found out about the
FBI's secretive, nefarious role in their inciting the crowd, in
infiltrating the crowd, and even into breaching and storming the Capitol,

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and yet none of that came out. It was suppressed
and the evidence was destroyed. Now, as many of you
are pointing out in text after text after text, and
by the way, you can text the cooner man seven
zero four seven zero seven zero four seven zero Jeff.

(12:59):
Can you imagine, by the way, this is from a
two one two Jeff, can you imagine what would happen
to you or anyone else in your audience if you
destroyed evid instrument a congressional investigation in order to cover
up government fraud and FBI corruption. Of course you can.

(13:24):
You'd go to prison, full stop. So why are Liz
Cheney and Adam Schiff any different? I thought, quote nobody
is above the law unquote brilliant, brilliant. And here's another one,
and this one is with a picture, and it's the

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picture of people at the steps of the Capitol, and
what now appear. People are now saying, well, who are
these dressed in MAGA hats? Who are all these people
dressed as Trump's supporters? Which ones of you know? Which
one of these are undercover FBI agents? Which ones are

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these confidential human sources that we know the FBI had
planted into the crowd. And the question then is which
twenty six were there with, you know, battling the police,
storming the steps, trying to kick down the door, trying
to get in. Maybe are they the ones who tore

(14:35):
down the barricades. Are they the ones that were yelling
and screaming, get in there, get in there, like ray Epps?
Was he the only one or were there others take
the capital, storm the capitol. Now, as as five O
eight points out Jeff, another conspiracy theory proven to be

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the truth. The government now admits that the FBI had
twenty six confidential human sources at the Capitol on January sixth,
and most of them committed crimes, but none of them
have been charged. That's why we need cash Patel. That's

(15:22):
why they fear cash Patel. And on a side note,
but it's very relevant, that's why they fear Tulsa Gabbard.
Now they're really trying to smear her as a Russian agent,
as a quote unquote Russian asset, and remembered that smear
came from Hillary Clinton. They was the Clintons that launched

(15:43):
that vicious McCarthyite smear on no evidence whatsoever. Why Because
she's now going to be, if confirmed, the head director
of National Intelligence. So she's going to be overseeing the NSSA,
the CIA, the DIA, all of our intelligence communities, and

(16:05):
all of the sensitive classified information that they've been deliberately
withholding from the American people. And so she's going to
be able to see like cash patl if he's director
of FBI, or Pam Bondi who's going to be the
Attorney General. Oh what's this? What did the FBI do

(16:26):
on January sixth? Are you kidding me? They insinuated themselves
into the crowd, They infiltrated the crowd, and no one
got arrested. They were egging the crowd to take the building.
Four of them that we know of, that we know of,

(16:49):
literally broke into the Capitol, all twenty six of them
committed crimes, all twenty six, and yet none of them
have been charged. Donald Trump was framed, the j six
protesters were framed. I mean, it's so obvious. This is

(17:13):
classic entrapment. That's what the FBI did. And you're telling
And by the way, now you know why. I know
I said it in the opening monologue, but it bears repeating.
Now you know why that snake Christopher Wray resigned on Wednesday,
or announced his resignation on Wednesday, to be more precise.

(17:34):
So I'm going to go to the phone lines, I promise,
But just before I do, this is a really really
good message that I got from Mark on messenger Jeff.
So they finally admitted that twenty six FBI informants participated

(17:59):
in the planned FED surrection of January sixth. But why
did it take four years for this to publicly come
out when we already knew this anyway? And isn't it funny?
Just a few days ago, Christopher Ray said he was
stepping down as FBI director when the Trump administration takes over,

(18:22):
and now this comes out. M what a coincidence. Newsflash,
mister Ray, you're a friggin coward. You're stepping down knowing
you're going to get fired anyway. Oh how noble of
you hashtag busted Mark is completely right, absolutely completely right,

(18:47):
where Christopher Ray's a snake, absolute snake in the grass,
trying to protect himself and trying to protect his top
people around him. And no, I'm sorry they can't. How
can you get away with this? Now we know definitively
an official report from the Department of Justice, their own

(19:08):
Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who interviewed FBI officials, field offices,
countless witnesses, and he found minimum. I think the number
is much higher, I feel, my honest opinion, I think
I think twenty six is the tip of the iceberg.
And by the way, he does point out in the report,

(19:30):
many did not talk to him. You know, this is
not the complete story, but he was able to dig
up valuable information. And so contrary to what the FBI
told us, Christopher Wray under oath told us, what Merrick
Garland told us. Remember Merrick Garland said there were no

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there were no FBI confidential sources, there were no FBI assets.
So contrary to what Merrick Garland told us, that other liar,
contrary to what the media, and at this point, in
all honesty, I don't know how much more discredited. They
can be the corrupt, corporate fake news media because all

(20:18):
they are are mouthpieces for the deep state. So they
just keep repeating and regurgitating the lies of the deep state. Remember,
the role of the media was historically to be skeptical
of power, to challenge power, to be a check and
balance on power, to hold power in political and powerful

(20:39):
politicians and bureaucrats and agencies accountable, not to power it
what they say and just blindly repeat it at nauseum
and then destroy anybody who has the guts to challenge
the official orthodoxy and the official propaganda narrative. So again,

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in the face of four years of mediaize, FBI lies,
Merrick Garland, dojlies, It's all come out. Twenty six undercover
informants infiltrated the Jay protests on j six. Almost all
of them committed crimes. Four of them breached the capital.

(21:26):
I'm sorry, I want to know, did Biden know? Did
Garland know? Did Christopher Rey know? I know they knew,
But you got to and hold these people accountable. This
Republicans need now to put Horowitz himself, the Inspector General,
the IG, under oath in front of a big Congressional Committee,

(21:50):
TV cameras everywhere and let the American people know our
own government was involved on January sixth. They helped incite it,
They helped instigate it, and they were trying to frame
Trump and the J sixers. This was an inside job.
And finally we get to Nancy Pelosi. Now we know why.

(22:17):
Definitively she turned down the ten thousand National Guard troops
that Trump offered three days before January six Now we
know why. In a documentary by her own daughter, when
January sixth takes place, Pelosi's panicking and saying, I'm responsible
for this, We're responsible for this. I turned down to

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security because she knew about the FBI's nefarious role. And
so I want to know did she greenlight it? How
far does this go? And if I'm a J sixer,
and you know we've had JA sixers called this show before,
I'm gonna urge every J sixer please call. I'm gonna

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go to you right away. You're rotting in jail. Some
of them, you know, mothers literally mothers who just were
on the steps of the Capitol. They didn't even go inside.
Six months, eight months, nine months in prison, and it's

(23:25):
not just the prison sentence, it's the criminal record. You're
almost practically considered a terrorist. You can't fly, you can't
hold down a job. I mean, this thing haunts you
wherever you go. You're you're pariah, and you've destroyed how

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many lives and the whole time you were in on it.
And by the way, as Horowitz points out, not a
single FBI asset, not a single undercover informant, no matter
what crimes they committed, were charged of a single crime.
I'm sorry, this is beyond disgusting towards cash, Betel. We need,

(24:12):
we want cash, Betel. It's time to clean house. Man, agree, disagree,
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
lines are loaded. Chris in the Great State of New York.
Thanks for holding Chris, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Morning, Jeff. It's an honor to speak with you. I've
emailed you many times. God bless you, and God bless America.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Thank you, Welcome, Welcome, Please, Chris, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
We all love you. So I'm listening to you speak
since six o'clock and I go online to quote unquote
verify what you're saying. I have Microsoft Being and I
search Inspector General January sixth report, and I get a

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whole page of UPI, CNN, AP WOPPO, Politico, Hill, USA today,
No FBI agents involved, No undercover FBI agents, No undercover FBI.
FBI did not deploy, FBI did not have undercover agents.

(25:27):
Unbelievable in all so, you know which one of us
is crazy? Me or you? Okay, this is a whole page.
Who's going to sit through this? In all fairness, they
have three links that say read the report. Who's going
to read the report? I mean this is propaganda at

(25:48):
its best. That their trick is that they're so good
at this. They're calling them agents and employees, whereas I
think we're calling them assets. Uh, it's just insane.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
Well yeah, look, Chris, I mean be specific. No, Yeah,
it's even in the executive section of the report if
you if you want, just read that. It's a big report.
It's a thick report, but just read the executive section.
It's much shorter, obviously, and it's kind of a summary.
And Horowitz lays it all out there. And let me
tell you exactly how they're identified in the report, Chris,

(26:28):
confidential human sources, and that's the term that's used c
HS confidential human sources. So they're basically they're they're FBI
what do you want to call them? Uh uh, you know,
FBI informants, FBI assets. In other words, they informally work
for the FBI. They're the FBI stooge pigeons. So what

(26:54):
CNN does is, well, they weren't, you know, according to them,
they weren't technically FBI agent, you know, on the payroll.

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Who cares.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
They were run by the field, as Horwitz lays out,
they were run by all these field offices, and they
were told spy on this person, spy on that person,
watch this person get into the crowd, tell us what
you see, tell us what you find. So they're just
playing semantics to cover the rear end of the FBI.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
It's propaganda. We're being deceived. There's no end to the lies. Okay,
it's unbelievable. I just read in the New York Post
this morning, how that black strip or light about the
Lacrosse raps. It's just too much.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Six seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, bombshell report. That's the only way I
can characterize it. From the Department of Justice's own Inspector
General Michael Horrowitz. He now has confirmed that there were
twenty six quote unquote confidential human sources, in other words, informants, rats, assets,

(28:14):
however you want to phrase them, who infiltrated the j
six protest mess Four of them that we know of
literally stormed and breached the capital others incited the crowd
to enter the Capitol building. None of them were charged

(28:34):
with a single crime compared to those who were not
FBI undercover assets. It's beyond disgusting. And this is what
Jesse Waters on Fox News put out on X and
I want to read it to everybody. Fox News Alert.

(28:55):
The Justice departments bombshell report on January six has now dropped.
The FBI had twenty six quote unquote confidential human sources
there that day, paid rats in maga hats. Over a
dozen of these spies participated in the so called quote

(29:19):
unquote insurrection. Why didn't then FBI Director Chris Ray tell
Congress this when he testified under oath? That was my
point in my opening monologue. The Democrats tried to gaslight
us and said this whole thing was a conspiracy theory.

(29:41):
But you were right all along. To me, this I mean,
this is to me unbelievable. Now it's going around. There
is an exchange between Congressman Clay Higgins and Christopher Ray
and Sandy, if you could maybe track it down and

(30:02):
get the cut, I would really appreciate it. Clay Higgins
at this hearing on January sixth, the FBI's role, it's
nefarious role, he challenges Chris Ray, and he says, no,
I don't believe you. There were undercover FBI informants in
that crowd. They infiltrated the crowd. Look at Ray Epps,

(30:25):
look at so many others. You are covering up for them.
Ray adamantly denies that the FBI had any role whatsoever
or that he knew about any of this, and Higgins,
Congressman Higgins says to him, it's gonna come out one day.
I'm warning you, it's gonna come out. Your role in

(30:48):
this is going to be completely exposed, and that of
your agency, and Shazam, baby, here we are.

Speaker 4 (30:58):
He did I have confidential human sources embedded within the
January sixth protesters. And on January sixth, at twenty twenty one.

Speaker 5 (31:11):
Well, Congressations, as I'm sure you can appreciate I have
to be very careful about what I can say.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
About when, because that's what you told us to finished.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Show finished, about when we do and do not and
where we have and have not used confidential human sources.
But to the extent that there's a suggestion, for example,
that the FBI's confidential human sources or FBI employees in
some way instigated or orchestrated January sixth, that's categorically false.

Speaker 4 (31:37):
Did you have confidential human sources dresses Trump supporters inside
the Capitol on January to sixth prior to the doors
being open again?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I have to be very careful. It should be a no.
Can you not tell the American people? No? Hey, wouldn't
say no, you know why because the answer is a yes,
that's the answer. Damn it. I mean, I'm sorry, but
this is I mean, this is sickening. I mean it

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makes your stomach turn. And remember this is not just
get the FBI or expose the truth. Chris Ray and
his FBI were the ones leading the charge to put
all the J sixers behind bars. He was the one
that said lock them all up, burn him to the ground,

(32:30):
go to Alaska, even get Granny with an FBI raid
a swat team in somewhere in the middle of nowhere
in Alaska, because granny was on the steps of the capitol.
So kick her door down. I'm telling you literally, it's
what happened. In one case, it was an old lady,
it was a grandmother. They came in thirty forty agents
so with the heavy guns, and you would think it

(32:52):
was Pablo Escobar, and they kicked her door down, yelling, screaming,
put granny on the ground, slap the handcuffs. She's a
domestic terrorist. And the whole time he knows. He had
his people dressed up as Maga and they're storming the capitol. Hey, buddy,

(33:15):
go after yourself. I'm sorry, man, you're a pig. You're
a pig. How do you sleep with yourself at night?
That's what I want to know. And then again he's
lying to Congress, Like, this is what I don't get
When Republicans lie to Congress. It's it's the crime of
the century. It's you know, and it's perjury. It's a

(33:39):
destruction of justice, it's subgorination of perjury. It's these guys
they lie in front of Congress like like like breathing
and it's all good. Did THEOD did no big deal?
You and I we lie under oath. They throw the
book at us. These guys, they lie under roath and

(33:59):
nothing happens them. His FBI led the persecution and harassment
and the campaign to go after every J sixer on
the planet. And we find out he and his people
were behind J six and some of his people literally

(34:22):
breached and stormed the capitol. They incited the crowd, they
egged the crowd on every January sixth. Conviction must now
be overturned, full pardon across the board. FBI agents that

(34:43):
were involved, these dirty agents, they need to be prosecuted,
and people who knew about this and kept silent should
lose their jobs on the spot, agree, disagree, six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight Lawrence and
true And by the way, Sandy, amazing job getting that

(35:04):
clip so fast. That was I mean, I say it
on the air and what was that twenty seconds, twenty
five seconds? Outstanding job, Mike and Sandy, Lawrence and Shrewsbury.
Thanks for holding Lawrence and welcome.

Speaker 6 (35:19):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 1 (35:20):
How are you hi? Lawrence?

Speaker 6 (35:23):
I want to thank you for covering this very vital
issue about the FBI informants illustrating the crowd on January sixth.
I was there that day. May I share with you
my observations?

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Please go ahead, Lawrence.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Okay, So did you know that January sixth was actually
the third of three planned protests of the twenty twenty election,
the first two being in mid November, and I mean
late November and early December of twenty twenty of twenty twenty.
Did you know that?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
I mean I knew there were protests, I didn't know
that it was, you know, a three steps part of
a larger series that I didn't know.

Speaker 6 (36:01):
Yeah, and I was at all three. I have a
picture of me with Congress and Low and Barber at
the second one in December, standing on the steps of
the Capitol. So I can tell you that when I
came there on January sixth, I noticed, first of all,
that the crowd was ten times larger than it had
been at the other two, and there was an agitation
in the crowd that had never been before. I knew

(36:23):
something was up. We all came to the ellipse to
watch President Trump speak, and as you famously know, he
clearly said we're going to go to the Capitol to
peacefully and patriotical protest, which is exactly what we did.
After you finished speaking, we all just casually walked the
way over to the Capitol. There was no sense of

(36:46):
rushing the building or infiltrating anything. Just me and my friend.
We were walking towards the Capitol as we had had
the previous two times. But then as we got towards
the building, we noticed there was made a disturbance going on.
I didn't know what the heck it was, but as
I can tell you, we were not part of any
plan to do anything violent. We're just going to go

(37:06):
that had listened to more speeches at the Capitol building,
and then all of a sudden, I get hit with
a wave of tear gas. I couldn't believe it, and
my friend helped me, you know, water my face, get
me through the tear gas. And we're at the base
of that superstructure they built for the inauguration, you know,
on the steps of the Capitol. Yes, so we climbed

(37:28):
up it and we got up to the top because
we were now we're mad. Why were they tear gassing us?
Who was doing this to us? And I can tell
you that as I looked around the crowd, there were
people in there that didn't fit the profile. All of
us were the Natic Americans who had come there to
just protest the twenty twenty election, which we felt had
been you know, fraudulent, and we wanted them to stop

(37:51):
the you know, the certification that day, you know, so
that to could take it back to the States and
you know, you know, investigate the election. And we just
stood there and we chanted, and we you know, sang
some songs, and we were just there to make our
voices heard. And there are people down way down the

(38:12):
crowd that are causing trouble getting in front of the
Capitol police. But it was like one tenth of one
percent of the crowd. We didn't know who these people were.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Now I know, Lawrence, I've got to ask you two questions.
Number One, I've read repeatedly. I've seen the pictures, I've
heard the testimony. I've seen the blood on the face
that Capitol Hill police. This is before anybody breached the Capitol.

(38:43):
And by the way, as you know, they they opened
the doors. The only way that crowd could have gone
into the Capitol is because someone on the inside gave
the order to lift the doors to open that massive door,
which is like wait, was it way several puns and
it can only be opened from the inside. And then

(39:03):
they opened the side doors, so nobody could have gone
in unless the Capitol police deliberately opened the doors. That's
number one. But let that go. Before the Capitol was breached,
there were rubber bullets being fired into the crowd, and
we now know because it's been caught on camera that
it was Capitol Hill police snipers high up who were

(39:25):
just pumping rubber bullets, firing indiscriminately into the crowd in
order to get a rise, to really infuriate and enrage people.
Did you see here feel rubber bullets whizzing by you
or anywhere near you while they threw tear gas at you.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
But I can tell you I was standing on the
very top of the scaffold thing, you know that they
built some big inauguration and across from us, right across
at the top on the roofs of the Capitol building
was h hundreds of police in riot here just standing
there they were. I was within a shouting range of them,
and I kept waving toward them to come join us,

(40:09):
because we know we were with them. We were with them.
They never shot at me. I never sudden stood to anybody.

Speaker 3 (40:15):
No.

Speaker 1 (40:16):
Interesting, okay, interesting now, this is what I wanted to
ask you. A lot of the J six people say
some of them stood out like a sore thumb in
the crowd. It was obvious they were FEDS or undercover
informants or confidential human sources or whatever you want to
call them. What was it about the people like ray Epps?

(40:40):
Why did they stand out to people like you Where
you say, no, they're obviously FEDS, they're obvious, or they're
working for the FEDS, or they're being directed by the FEDS.
Why was it obvious to people like you?

Speaker 6 (40:57):
They got one too. The previous two protests, and you
could make out any one of our patriotic supporters by
the way that they handled themselves and carry themselves. They
weren't any kind of violent mode whatsoever, just quietly chanting
and walking along and singing songs things like that. But
on January sixth, the third of the three protests, you

(41:19):
could see people who had sort of a furtive look
on their faces, like they were up to something, and
they were dressed differently. Their hair would be different types,
you know, kind of you know, long shaggy hair, that
kind of thing, and they were wearing Trump gear, but
I sense that they were up to something. Yes, there
are definitely people who stood out that day.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Interesting. Interesting. Are you shocked by this, Larry, this Bombshall report.

Speaker 6 (41:45):
I'm not shocked in the sense that I suspected all
along that there were FBI informants. What I am shocked
about is that they absolutely are reporting this for Loup
to know now, and that they now have have Christopher
Ray absolutely on I think it's would you not call

(42:05):
it perjury?

Speaker 1 (42:06):
He'sh debt rights? Oh, they got him debt to rights
on perjury lawrence, they got him debt to rights. They
got him, I mean they got him six ways to Sunday.

Speaker 6 (42:17):
That's acute. Or have uh, Christopher Ray prosecuted and maybe
who was the previous FBI director? Oh he wasn't involved.
Oh yeah, Christopher Ray and anyone else involved in setting
up the informance on January sixth should be prosecuted.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Absolutely. Yeah, I know. I'm with you. I'm with you
all the way, all the way. Well that was call me.
The previous FBI director was James Camy.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
I don't know if he was involved in January sixth,
he would have been gone by then, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:48):
No, he was gone by then Trump Ember Trump fired him.

Speaker 6 (42:51):
Yes, okay, anyway, so thank you so much for reporting
this then, by the way.

Speaker 1 (42:55):
And thank you, no, thank you for this info. This
was an invaluable call, Lawrence. Please don't be a stranger.
Call again. Okay, take care Lawrence. Six one seven two
six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number Denise
in Beverly. Thanks for holding Denise and welcome.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Hi, Hi, Jeff, how are you today?

Speaker 1 (43:18):
Very good? How are you, Denise?

Speaker 3 (43:20):
I'm good. That guy was absolutely right. I was there too, Jeff.
And you know when we got we got there early
on a Tuesday afternoon and everything was great. You know,
we went to the monument.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
We listened to TNK because.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
We couldn't get in there. Too many people to get
in there to see him in person, and everything was
so peaceful. The monument listened to him talk and everything,
and then we walked down into the Capitol. We were
kind of like kind of.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
The big first crowd to get to the Capitol.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
There was a bunch of us that went together, you know,
different cars and stuff. We stayed at a hotel. So
we got to the you know, the bottom of the
gate before the pawn there there was like a bike gate.
So we're standing all out down there, and then the
gods you know, opened the gate and waved its way
up the hill. That was the first mistake they made, okay,

(44:14):
so they waved everybody up the hills. So we're up
there now and we couldn't believe. We looked at each other,
we can't believe this has happened. Do you believe that went
us up here? No, we can't believe it. Right, So
we get to the top, you know, it was probably
twenty feet from the skias, not too far. And then
we were standing there and uh some some about fifteen guys,

(44:37):
all like Drake Trump supported his flags hanging over and
we knew they just didn't look like Trump supported Jeff,
and they're going we're going in, We're going in, We're
going in. And I looked at his Kim and I said,
you want to go in? He goes to you and
I said, I don't know. So then we started to walk,
not with them, but towards a little further and all

(45:00):
of a sudden we got gas in our face and
it was burning our eyes and so it was burned
that eye. So we looked at each other. We just
get out of here. But we watched the rest of
it at the hotel on the TV. But Jeff Josh
Holly had all that proof and stacks of proof abroad.

(45:23):
Liz sayey should be locked up. And I'm one of
what Mike Pence thinks about all this. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (45:30):
I mean, No, I think Mike Pence knew. No, I'll
be honest with you, Denise. Look, I'm not speaking. I
don't know Mike Pence. I don't know his people. I mean,
I'm just giving you my I'm just my you know,
my unadulterated opinion here. No, I think he knew. I
think it was obvious. I mean it was so obvious
to everybody on that day and especially the days after.

(45:53):
This was an inside job and the deep state, led
by the FBI and others, sat Trump up. I think
there's no question. And look, I'll be honest. I think
twenty six is as I said. I think it's just
a fraction of how many of them were involved. We're
gonna be see, and I think we're gonna be and look,

(46:15):
they're kind of it's a smart move on the part
of the DOJ because they know Trump's gonna come in power.
Ain't about it? What is it just almost a month
now and he's gonna get cash Patel in there. It
looks like cash Ptel's gonna get confirmed. So this is
gonna come out. So what you do is, I'm just
telling you, I having worked in Washington all those years,

(46:37):
you release a report, but you never it's not the
full report. You kind of water it down. But then
so but the shock of it wears off. So throw
in twenty six FBI informants when the real number was like,
I don't know, two sixty or four hundred, Well you know,

(47:00):
so now it's like, well twenty six, two hundred, three hundred,
four hundred. Hey, as Hilary said at this point, what
difference does it make? So in other words, it takes
the sting out of when Patel comes out, probably with
his report and he's like, oh, the numbers are much higher.
But it goes exactly to what you're saying completely, Denise.

(47:23):
They were there to incite and create havoc, chaos and
violence because they didn't want the Senate to hear the
speeches laid out by Hawley and Ted Cruz and Marshall Blackburn,
the case to the American people that Joe Biden stole Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Wisconsin,

(47:48):
and that the case should be that these four states
they should it should be sent back to the states
to investigate voter fraud. They didn't want that to take place,
so they needed an incident. January sixth was their incident,
and they then needed to pin it to frame it,
to frame Trump and his supporters. And you're right, Liz

(48:14):
Cheney needs to go to jail because the January sixth
Committee knows all of this. In fact, they know a
lot more than this. So there was all of this
exonerating evidence, and now we know why they destroyed it all. Which,
by the way, when you run a committee, you can't

(48:35):
just destroy evidence. So they deliberately destroyed evidence to keep
the truth from the American people, and they obstructed now justice,
and they abused power, and they engage in a massive
cover up. Liz Cheney knew, Benny Thompson knew, Adam Kinsinger knew,

(49:02):
Adam Schiff knew. They an't know. Now you know why,
and I can cite you story after story after story
where Biden and his lawyers are talking about preemptive pardons
and one of the people the top of the list
is Liz Cheney. And honestly, even people in the liberal

(49:23):
media are like, well, why would Liz Cheney need some
kind of a preemptive pardon? Like, what the hell has
Liz Cheney done? Now? We know now exactly, we know
they destroyed evidence that would have proven our own government
and our own FBI's involvement in January sixth, And Denise,

(49:47):
I gotta tell you, really, I don't know how these
poor j sixers languishing in jail. I don't know how
they make it for another month in intolerable conditions, really
behind bars, many of them in isolation, cold, hungry, abused,
years of their lives, suffering. Essentially, it's a form of torture.

(50:14):
And the whole time you're like, I know the government
was behind this, I know we were framed. I know
we were set up. And now you hear it, and
you say to yourself, so all these FBI informants they
get off scot free. They cover it up for them,
But I'm rouding behind bars
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