Another Shutdown Looms

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'm Sandy Shack sitting in for Jeff Kooner. The text
number is seven zero for seven zero one. Texture is
correcting me from the last segment saying Old Faithful is Yellowstone,
not use somebody. If I said yose somebody, I apologize.
I know it's Yellstone. I've been there.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
It is.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Yellowstone Park is probably easily the most beautiful place on
Earth I've ever seen. So it's it's very clear my memory.
I was a slip of the tongue. My apologies. What
we're talking about is the cr and the reason why
they came up, just as an asside, is because and
the last big government shutdown when President Obama was in office,

(00:35):
they tried to They did silly, silly things to make
the shutdown were painful for people, like putting a screen
around Old Faithful, like you couldn't look at it, you know,
if there was a government shutdown, it was just bizarre.
But the reason why this came up is because the
Continuing Resolution that would keep the lights on in the
government was stop cold last night by Donald Trump, and

(00:59):
if not pass by midnight tomorrow, the government shuts down.
And my question is is that a good thing? And
was Trump right to stop it? Was he right to
get involved at all, given he's not sworn in yet.
But if you do think he should get involved, which
I have no problem doing, like he's like any lobbyist
at this point to me, then he has every right
to make his opinion known the same way that you

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or I do. Was he right to stop it? I mean,
this CR, this Continuing Resolution is bloated budgets. It's full
of reckless spending, and it's got giveaways in it. It
has billions going to Ukraine more Ukraine, and yet it
also ignores the issues at home. It locks in some

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very bad fiscal policies that will do nothing to fix
the border issues or that will even tackle inflation. So
that's that's some of the reasons why I think it's
always a really bad deal that speak Johnson came up with. Now,
you can't forget this is a lane duck Congress, so

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a lot of them aren't going to come back to
office anyway, some of them are, not all of them.
There'd be new people coming in, but this Continuing Resolution
would tie the hands of the incoming Congress, the incoming
Republican majority. That's one of the big issues, and why
I think Donald Trump was so concerned. It locks in

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massive spending increases and some very bad policies, so Republicans
would lose the leverage that they need in the next
year or so to clean up this huge mess that's
been created by President Biden and his Democrats. The plan
is very obvious if you actually take the time to

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go through the CR. It's to pass as much of
the Democrat agenda as possible before the Republicans take control
of Congress. And if those Republicans who are in office
now allow it, they'll find that when January rolls around,
they will be unable to deal with the issues like

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border security or fiscal responsibility, the debt sealing, healthcare reform,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera in the beginning, and
all that agenda that Donald Trump ran on will be
hogtide if the CR passes. That is why Elon Musk
went up to the hill. That is why President Trump

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and Senator of Vance soon to be Vice President of
Vance issued this statement. What they need to do, and
you don't have to let the Congress, you don't have
to let the government shut down. Which you can do
is agree on a skinny CR, which basically does the
bare minimum to keep the government running and just punt
everything down to the new Congress as it should be,

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which gives President Trump a clean slate to to enact
his agenda. But the Democrats don't want Trump to have
a clean slate. That's the problem. They don't want a
clean CR, a skinny CR. They want their agenda to
be shoehorned in as much as possible. And they're the

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ones who are holding up the Continuing Resolution. They want
you to believe it's the Republicans because and they're telling
you Republicans hate old people and vets and disaster victims
because they won't pass this. They're not telling you that
what Republicans hate is the bloated spending and the pork
barrel buffet that's in there, and these other Democrat policies

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that will shoehorn that will hogtie President Trump. That's what
they really don't like, and that's what President Trump is
trying to stop. So I don't have a problem with
what President Trump, with his sidekick there Elon Musk, did yesterday.
Do you let's talk to Roman in Boston and Roman,
welcome to WRKO. How are you, sir A Sandy.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Good morning, Merry Christmas and happy knew you to you,
to you too. I have just a personal a quick
personal note. The last time I called in was July thirteenth,
and it was it was actually a very terrifying day.
And I put on our KO just on a whim
on that Saturday. And you I want to thank you,

(05:20):
Jeff and Mike for coming in on that day. We've
got quite a year, but you guys were a beacon
in the darkness.

Speaker 4 (05:26):
Oh thank you.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
You wanted to extend that to you. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
That's very kind. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
Roman.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
You know what Roman, we are. I'm going to hold
you right there for a second. Please stand the line,
don't go anywhere. We have hard breaks on the show,
meaning you know, we don't have any control over we
have to break when we have to break. We're talking
about the Continuing Resolution and how Donald Trump stopped it yesterday,
which means a government if they don't fix it by
midnight tomorrow, we'll shut down. And before we went to

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the break, we were talking to Roman in Boston. Roman,
thank you for waiting on the line. I appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Oh, no problem. Thanks for holding me, Sandy. I just
want to say, do you remember you had mentioned it
earlier under Obama that they made a government shutdown sound
like it was the apocalypse, like the end of the world,
and that never happened. And then they went on, like
you said, and brought back all these families, the punitive

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expedition against the American public that they went on, and
King Jeffrey stands up this. So Saint Deimonious and House
Republicans are going to be responsible for this at House
Republicans and House Republicans well know, you know, Donald Trump

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should be injecting himself into this conversation because no one's
running the country right now anyway, who's running this country?
You know he should be.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
You know, you bring up a good point, Roman because
have you heard anything from President Biden about any of this.
I haven't, or even you know, Vice President Harris, not
that her input would be welcome. I'm just saying, those
are the two titular heads of the government right now,
and you know from the Executive Bridge, I've heard nothing
from the White House, have.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
You no nothing nothing? The only thing I heard was
Kamala Harris is maybe running for governor or some whok
available in twenty twenty eight again. And Joe Biden Becker.
That's about all I've heard out of the both of
them other than that nothing and what really would happen
in a government shutdown. The medicial will still get paid,

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so security will still get paid, the like the necessities
will get paid. It may be a little inconvenient for
some people. The thing that got me, and I know
there were a lot of big things in that bill
that they want, but what really personally struck me is

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that they want to pay raise. Yeah, how did they
ask for a payway to raise after they destroyed the
entire country for the past four years and when Trump
was president, they hamstrung them every chance they got, and
they're looking for a pay raise after what they did
during COVID and everything that they've done to us. They want,
they want to raise. They should get either fire or

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take a reduction in pay for for their performance for
the past eight years. It's been absolutely ridiculous. I can't
I can't understand. That just sticks in my crop.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Oh you, you and me, both Roman and I had
a Texter earlier who said, what are you talking about?
You got to give them a pay raise?

Speaker 5 (08:34):
Are.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
You're not going to get quality representatives there, really, that's
what you So let's reward if this is an example
of quality representatives. I don't think we need them.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
How about you, Well, it's typical government, you know what
I mean. You really don't have to perform too much
to get a pay raise, because they have performed at all.
And he just King Jefferys like really bothered me when
he was talking. And it's the same who ever gets
their first, you know, to the podium. It makes the point.

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And then and then the left wing media runs with it,
and oh my god, you'll have Bertie sand Is coming
out and being like, we need to avoid catastrophic government shutout.
It's not it's not catastrophic.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That was a nice that was a very nice impression.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, that's the best one I do.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's good. That's very good.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
You know. But you're going to have that, and we're
all going to be fine. Every everything's going to be fine. Well,
welfare won't get shut off, so security won't get shut off, nothing,
none of the real big things will get shut off.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Now, the people that do feel sorry for Roman though
our government employees, federal employees will not get paid but
here's the thing. They will get retroactively paid as soon
as as soon as the government starts up again. They
will get the money that was owed to them, but
they will not get paid. That is one of the problems,
and I feel badly about that, But I don't think

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you need to blame the Republicans for that. Blame the
Democrats because they're the ones who loaded what should have
been a clear, a clean, bare bone cr with crap
to make it unpalatable to the Republicans and to the
incoming administration. They're the ones that did that. They're the
ones that have caused that problem. But they don't want

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you to look at it that way.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
It's just projection. Everything they're doing they're blaming the conservatives for.
And as far as Mike Johnson, he's not a rhino,
he's not Maga. He's a conservative. And I think what
Trump is going to do, and I think Trump is
a powerhouse right now because he's got a bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Not a bunch.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
He wanted them the election by a lot. That's the
popular and the electoral College vote. So we want him there.
This is what we want him doing. Mike Johnson just
used they just all the republicas as if business as usual,
you know what I mean, Let's spend exorbitant amounts of
money on a bill that's going to benefit mostly liberal agendas.

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And it's just, you know, they they're always fighting defensively,
and Trump is going to fight offensively, and he wants
the Conservatives to fight offensively, which we should. It's about
time we go on offense. We're always playing defense, defense,
defense against the Democrats, and it's not right, and it's
actually it makes me feel good that someone's will you

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know that someone's willing to fight. I mean, Mike Johnson,
I think can do a good job. I think he's
capable of doing a good job. I just think he
needs to stop being like almost like a scared rabbit.
And that's my opinion on that. I really don't dislike him.
I don't think he's a wishy washy as McCarthy was.

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So well, we'll see when it comes to that, but
I definitely I'm one hundred percent behind Donald Trump, Elon
and THEVEK because that's what they're there for. They get
a cup of fat.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, I agree with you, Roman, That's that's why they're there.
That's why that's a main pillar of Donald Trump's agenda,
and it's what he was voted in to do because
people have trouble going in and paying six dollars for
a dozen X and you know, at the same time
they're watching, especially if the northeaster or the Midwest which

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is now under a blizzard alert where you can't afford
to heat your house because electricity has gone through the roof.
These are things that Donald Trump was bringing it has
been brought in to help correct, and this continuing resolution
flies in the face of that. Thank you so much, Roman,
I appreciate the call. Our number here is six one
seven two six sixty eight sixty eight. When a caller

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drops off, that means a line has opened up for you,
or you can text seven zero four seven zero five
O eight says I read on GAB that buried in
the bills of form of amnesty for all our new
arrivals that would eliminate Trump's attempts for mass deportation. It
redefines us person. I'm trying to confirm such provision exists
in the bill, but they wanted to share it if

(13:12):
it might be true. I will look it up too
and see if that's true. I don't know if it
is either, but I will find out because that's sneaky too,
isn't it. There's all sorts of sneaky stuff in this bill.
Let's go to Seth in Boston. Seth, Welcome to w RKO.
How are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Nice Sanny Goods.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
Thanks.

Speaker 4 (13:28):
I'm glad your last caller finally brought up the hamstringing,
because that's what's going to happen in this term, just
like it happened the last term. And you know, I
know us conservatives are excited about Trump coming in, and
of course it's great, but he's not going to get
much done, just like he didn't get much done his
first time around, because the Rhinos fight him just as

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hard as they fight you know, everybody else. And when
the Liberals are in charge, this is the key point
to me. When the Liberals are in charge, char they
get everything they want. And when the Rhinos are in charge,
the Liberals still get everything they want, and we let
them get away with it every single time, just like
this time. The cr is going to pass.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Still pull a little bit out.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Of it, but it's going to pass.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
What makes you think it's going to pass?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Because they always pass.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, have they always had Donald Trump up there on
the hill going Nope. And within minutes really of him
issuing a statement no, the support disappeared for the cr
just disappear. So I mean it's literally stopped in his tracks,
and to the point where the minority leader comes out
and tries to throw might on the Republicans for doing

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he was so shocked that he had to get out
there right away and try to make sure the public
opinion was not against them. So, I mean, is there
is it? You think they're that afraid to shut down
the government for a couple of weeks until the new
Congress comes in South.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I think the rhinos have no spine at all. You know,
all you have to do is look at when Trump
was first in office, or he had the House, just
like now he had the House, he had the Senate,
he had the presidency. You would think, all the whining
that's gone on over the last thirty years about if
only we had all three houses, we could do X,
Y and Z, you would have thought that it been

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a pile of bills on his desk a mile high,
ready to sign. But no, they didn't do really anything
great that they could have done. You know, they didn't
bring all those bills ready to sign for Trump. They
just blamed it on something else and they get away.
We let them get away with it all the time.
I'm of the age where they still taught civics and
maybe I'm missing something, but they have the house where

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the spending originates. He could bring a bill right now,
a real conservative bill, even if he had to give
pork to a few of his rhino buddies and say, okay,
here's our bill. We have all the votes to pass it,
send it over to the Senate. But you see they're
not doing that. Or even the pork that they had
to give to the rhino, they could expose the right

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to say, hey, you know, we're trying to pass this bill,
but so and so Rhino won't pass it because he
can't get his five five hundred million dollars to a
bridge to nowhere.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Well, you know, you bring up a good point, but
I'm going to hold you there, Seth, because I got
to go into break. Before the break, we were talking
with Seth from Boston, who didn't hold that much hope
for the new administration anymore than he had for the
old administration. The old Trump the first Trump administration, saying
that the rhinos would make it difficult for Donald Trump
and that the cr would probably pass with just a

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couple of little alterations and that would be it. I
agree with Seth that the rhinos were a very big
reason why President Trump did not get more done in
his first term. But I think there are a few
differences with this term. One is there not as many
rhinos this time around. There are a lot more maga

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members of Congress than there were before. And Trump did
not have a mandate the first time he was in
office and he does now. He didn't just squeak into office.
The American people are solidly behind him, and that's evident
to everybody, including the Democrats, which is why they were
trying to shoehorn all this stuff in with nobody looking,
because they know they have no shot at getting it

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in on when Trump is sworn in now. Rhinos are
usually very pragmatic when cornered, and I think that when
they look at the makeup of the voters was that
swept Trump into office, they know which side is going
to be benefit to them in regard to their own

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re election and their own ability to govern, and so
I don't think they're going to stand in his way
they way they did before. I don't think it will
be as hard this time. Will the cee our pass maybe,
but if it does, it won't be with lip service changes.
I think there will be some very substantive differences if

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it passes between the version that that Speaker Johnson was
proposing yesterday and the version that passes if it does
by midnight tomorrow. But we will wait and see and
find out. Let's go to Kenny and Weston. Kenny, Welcome
to w RKO. How are you.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Good morning? Great, Joe great following?

Speaker 1 (18:20):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, you know, thinking because I was listening. I mean
it's pretty simple. I mean, have if I was the
leader or a leader of the Republican Party, I would
call Jeffreys up like almost on the debate type of
uh setting and just say, Okay, are you absolutely sure

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what you just named off? There's nothing else in that bill,
right is that they're gonna tell. I mean, I'd call
him on the spot so you are absolutely sure this
is the moment of truth And and then come up
with all the lists of all the book projects they
got and they give aways and list them all. I mean,

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it's just really supposed. It's like doing the debate when
everybody touted which old Widen was light and then the
American people, so I pull what it was and then
they could spend, they couldn't buy, they couldn't do anything
can So I mean, it's like they should call these
people on the spot in front, and but reporters don't
do that neither.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
So you know, no, they don't. Now while they didn't
used to. We'll see whether they start doing it. I
don't hold on any hope for the CR that they
will do that necessarily, Kenny, because when I you know,
I flip around when I when I'm doing show preper
just when I'm doing whatever in my office or in
my house, I basically I flip around on the news

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and I will have more than one news broadcast at
the same time. And I listen to CNN and I
listened to Fox, and I listened to One News Nation,
I listened to everybody. I go back and forth just
because I want to get all perspectives and I want
to see what the what the line is in particular
with it, if it's CNN or MSNBC or ABC, what
it is that that they're promoting, and last night they're

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trying to promote the fact that it was wrong for
Elon Musk to go lobbying on the Hill and then
Donald Trump and you know, hey, they're not an elected
office yet, And I'm like, well, Donald Trump was elected.
I know Elon Musk wasn't. But what's the difference between
Elon Musk and say a tobacco lobbyists or you know,
an automotive lobbyist. You know what's the difference between him

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and them? You don't have a problem with them, So
why do you have a problem with him? And Donald
Trump was elected. He may not be sworn in yet,
but he was elected and he was elected by a
huge majority, so I don't really have a problem with
him issuing his opinion about something and doing this. But
that is what they're trying to spin. That coupled with
Hakeem Jeffries going out there and throwing shade on the

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Republicans saying that we hate old people, veterans and disaster
victims because we're stopping this with no mention of we're
not really happy about the Maryland delegation getting billions of
dollars for their state because they happen to have a
lot of committee members on those particular committees that that
that funnel funds. And it's like, wait a minute, you know,

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why why is this bridge any body? And why does
it have to be in the cr Why can't if
this is such a righteous thing to pay for the
Key bridge, why aren't we doing it? Why can't we
debate it and vote for it in the spring along
with other budget you know members, Why does it have
to be snuck in in the dead of night? But
they don't want to mention that, I mean, because that

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destroys their narrative of being the good guys and the
Republicans are bad, bad people, Kenny. That's that's their narrative
that lost them the election. And they don't seem to
have learned anything by it, have they?

Speaker 2 (21:51):
No, they almost it's almost like now I call them
the appliance establishment. You know, their warranties really van out
of almost so I mean how I mean how many
times and after this last election, I mean they I
don't know if they still get it when they stand
up there and man and it's the same old lines.

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It's ridiculous and people don't believe.

Speaker 1 (22:17):
It, you know, Kenny, here's the thing. Their learning curve
doesn't seem to be moved. It seems to be a
flat line. Really, I mean, this has been a losing
strategy for the past few years. I mean, and it
really culminated in November with with Donald Trump winning. They
threw everything at him. They made every lie under the sun,

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and and it's it's very arrogant and patronizing to think
we're going to believe them at this point in time.
But you know that they're still trying same, same, same playbook.
They haven't switched it over yet. I would thought that
they would have. Some have looked at and gone, yeah,
you know, you know, I think people like John Fetterman,
Senator Fetterman. He cracks me up. I mean, this is

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a guy that was in such bad shape when he
was first elected from his stroke that he you know,
he started his debate by going good night everybody, like
it was over. I was like, oh my god. And
he won in Pennsylvania. And for the first couple of
years he was in office, really his chief of staff
and his wife ran the office. He was really, you know,

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he wasn't really doing anything well. He healed, he got better,
you know, he had time to get better, and he did.
And now that he is, he is functioning again as
he would wish to do. He is looking at stuff
going what the hell? And he is very pragmatic and
he goes, no, I'm okay with this, and I'm okay
with that, and what's everybody's problem with? And he is

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not towing the party line. He appears to becoming the
new Joe Mansion. Since Joe Manchin is leaving, it looks
like Fetterman is the Democrat in office who actually thinks
about stuff and says and is and is more balanced
in his approach. And I think they are a lot
more up there that are like that, and I know

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some of the people coming in are like that. So
I hold out hope that that they've learned a lesson
and will evolve. I think we work better as a
two party system if both system if both parties are
open and honest and work hard. But you know, when
one is just focused on throwing mud and lying, then

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it's when you get out of kilter and you have chaos,
which is what we have now. But I think it's
about to be fixed. What do you think, Kenny?

Speaker 3 (24:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Agree? You know, I lent a lot of life lessons
from approaching people, how to deal with people. For the
past eighteen years, I was driving Francis X Ballotti. He
was like my closest and the stories that he had
and how we got along with both parties and Republicans alike.
I mean it was you know, he would be down

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at show if Hodgens events Bill Weldon, they would like
the closest uns after that him with host and he
was respected on both sides and Republicans are light because
he went how to get along and pick up the
phone and be reason and it was amazing what I've
want from that gentleman for the past eighteen years.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
And his soul, oh, he was something else.

Speaker 2 (25:18):
He was unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Just passed away this week. Yeah, he got to rest
his soul. So I agree with you. That is a
that is a life lesson and it's a lesson I
thought was lost with the last generation of politicians who
believed in that, But maybe not. Maybe they're coming back.
Thank you so much for the call, Kenny. I appreciate
it very much. Let's go to Nick in Rhode Island. Nick,
Welcome to w RKO.

Speaker 6 (25:38):
How are you, Sandy. Thank you for taking my call.
I just wanted to quickly comment on what John said earlier.
I'm about why President Kennedy was so fascinated. He's absolutely correct.
A lot of people think that Federal Observed Bank is
a federal bank. It isn't. It is at munted owned

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and managed by a group of private multimillionaires. Now in
June June nineteen sixty three, JFK authorized executive or one
one zero, which is devised to divest totally divest the
Federal Reserve back of the power to loan money to
the government and interest. He wanted to return to the

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Treasury Department the authority to issue currency, and this said
shockwaves through the Federal Reserve owners. Also, they add too
that another reason he was killed is that he wanted
to totally withdraw all American forces from Southeast Asia and
seat in all.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
Oh, we lost him. Sorry, my friend, you, I think you.
I think you have a problem there with your with
your phone service. But I appreciate you calling and contributing,
and hopefully we'll be able to talk to you against them.
Let's go to Lisa in Watertown. Lisa, welcome, WRKO, How
are you.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
I'm good, Hi, Sandy, Hi, and Merry Christmas.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
To you too, Lisa, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Thanks. There was one thing I don't I haven't heard
the complete show, but there's one thing I haven't heard
anyone talk about yet, and that is one of the
things in the CR. And I read this, I believe
I read it on x is. The Congress is giving
themselves immunity from having anything like emails, text messages, meeting notes,

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et cetera, et cetera, subpoena or foyd.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
You know, it's funny you say that because I just
got a text about that. It's awesome. Kind of immunity
doesn't match your number. Kind of immunity for Congress making
their text emails not subject to foyer or subpoena. This
is how sneaky they are. But Kim Jeffries doesn't mention that,
he doesn't mention that that's in there. No, no, we
If you don't like the CR, then you don't like
old people in vets or aster victims. That's what came

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Jeffrey ss Lisa.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
Kill us.

Speaker 5 (28:04):
So I think that it's related to the J six Committee,
and they don't want anything out there that makes them
look bad.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Well, I think that's very true. So what you're saying,
and what if if that being in the CRT well
is what that is is they're making a last ditch
effort to kind of cover their ass, kind of like
a a preemptive pardon. Wouldn't you say, doesn't it kind
of strike you as a preemptive pardon.

Speaker 5 (28:30):
Because I don't think that Biden would do a preemptive
parton for the whole Congress.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
Yeah, so they're trying to cover their own ass as
they go about it. But this is another reason. I'm
sure you know Elon Musk read the whole bill, and
Vivic Rameswami, vivc Ramaswami read the whole bill, and I
have no doubt that Donald Trump read the whole bill
and they say, yeah, this is full of stuff we
cannot have because it stops us from pursuing our agenda.

(28:59):
And it seems to me that that particular clause that
you're talking about, provision you're talking about, is directly on
point with that that it stops him from investigating. And
that's one of the things that maybe we want to
not have happened so that we can get to the
bottom of some of these things that have been happening
in the last couple of years. Thank you for the call, Lisa.

(29:21):
I appreciate it very much and I appreciate the information.
Let's talk to Tommy in West Virginia. Tommy, welcome to WRKO.
How are you.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
I'm good.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
And by the way, let's circle back to Leonard to
Jakeem Jeffries. Does his uncle's name, Leonard Jeffries ring a
bell to you? Why got back to the early nineties.
Leonard Jeffries, his uncle was teaching at City College in

(29:52):
New York that Jews financed the slave trade, which they
were in the mrcan Field business or whatever, which probably
is true. However, what he failed to mention to young
college students with skulls full of much that Arab Muslims
were also involved with the trans atlantic slave trade. And

(30:15):
Leonard Jeffries, as a young college student, wrote a paper
defending his uncle's point of view, which with many Jewish
groups felt it that they were being singled out back then.
So I just wanted to throw that out there, and
I really wish that, you know, the Republicans, you've got

(30:36):
to start throwing some dirt at these Democrats because they're
certainly doing it to you.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
And you know something, I don't think they need to
throw dirt. I think what they need to do is
put the truth out there. There's a difference between I mean,
all that is, that's all that. You don't have to
throw dirt. You don't have to go to King Jeffrey's
ancestry here. I mean, I don't really care what his
ancestors did. That's not him, that's his ancestors. What I

(31:03):
care about is the fact that he's lying, that he's saying,
this is what's in this is all that's in the bill,
and this is what the demo, that's what the Republicans
don't want to pass. That to me is nefarious and
it's a bullface lie and that is and you don't
have to throw dirt to counter it. You just have
to tell the truth and say, well, no, this is

(31:25):
what else is in the bill. There's a pay raise
for Congress in the bill. There's a pork barrel for
the entire state of Maryland and picking up the entire
bill and to the tune of billions of dollars for
the state of Maryland. There's a there's refunding for a
censorship group out of the State department that was supposed
to be disbanded. I mean, that's all you have to
do is tell the truth. You don't have to cast mud.

Speaker 3 (31:47):
Okay, fair enough?

Speaker 7 (31:49):
Correct Well, I.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Wouldn't say correct, I would I wouldn't say corrected, Tommy.
I would say we have a different opinion. And so
that's it's. Yeah. So it's it's like you're you're very
knowledgeable in our check kilbal guy, articulate guy. So I'm
just saying that you know, you don't have to you
don't have to play dirty. If you can be on,
you can be honest and win this argument because you
have truth on your side, and when you do, there's

(32:12):
no reason to play dirty.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Is there.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Well, no, that's true. And guess what.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
That's what happened in November fifth. Yeah, this past election,
but with threeguards to disaster victims. Correct me if I'm wrong.
In Asheville, North Carolina, which is the very rural area,
there were there were people in the FEMA organization that

(32:39):
there was an email that if they have Trump signs
on the lawn, ignore these people even though their trailer
or their house has been devastated. So is came Jefferies,
referring to those people too.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
And you know that's a very good question. Yeah, that
the email wasn't quite that quite that specific what the
email was and what the FEMA woman, the woman who
worked for Feena who was fired, who's who then turned whistleblower, said,
this is what the email said, and here's the email.
I'll give it to you. Basically said, if you run

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against anybody who has, you know, who makes you uncomfortable
with their political views. That's how they termed it, you know,
So it's the same thing what you're talking about, but
they try to They tried to kind of weasel around
it a little bit, so thinking that if they weren't specific,
that it wouldn't come back to bite them, and then
you know what, but it did. But I love that question,

(33:32):
and that is, you know, we're talking about maybe getting
funds for those people after you know, you walked right
by their house. I think that's a brilliant question, Tommy.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (33:43):
And you know the other problem is is that they
keep this has been going on since Reagan was in office,
that they're kicking the road. Now. If I go back
to nineteen eighty four, I just got into the Union.
I was very much a Walter Mondale supporter back then.

(34:05):
And the one thing that Walter Mondale stressed to the
American public is that this deficit spending, we're going to
put this debt on our grandchildren. Well, Reagan doubled the
national debt. He went from nine hundred and ninety seven
billion dollars at the beginning of his term to one
point eight trillion.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Yes, he did.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
His administration did that. And you know, if you go
back to the nineteen eighty election, the whole reason why
Ted Kennedy ran against Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter, to his credit,
saw that well wait a minute, these entitlements and ending
are just continuing to go up like a skyrocket, and

(34:46):
eventually it's going to bankrupt the country. Well, I really
wish when George Bush W. Bush took over, we were
only five point four trillion dollars. Now we're at thirty
six trillion dollars.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
I mean, well, this is what Tommy, you're breaking up there.
I'm sorry, but this is what this is what Donald
Trump is talking about. But you need to fix some stuff.
We need to stop the runaway spending which is impacting inflation,
and we need to do a lot of things. But
the first thing we need to do is stop the
Democrats from stopping Trump from dealing with it, and that's

(35:23):
what they're trying to do with this continuing resolution. Thank
you so much for the call, Tommy. I appreciate it
very much. Let's go to Ronnie in Boston. Ronnie, welcome
to w RKO. How are you.

Speaker 8 (35:35):
Hey, Good morning and Merry Christmas, Sandy. Merry Christmas to
you everyone in studio and Kuna Country.

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Merry Christmas to you too, Ronnie.

Speaker 8 (35:44):
Thank you. I called to push back on caller Steth
a bit. The landscape has completely changed. Your Jeff, your
Paul Ryan's, and your your Flakes and your Ben Stasses
and your John McCain's and your Mitt Romney's. So many
of these never Trumpers have been purged from the party

(36:06):
and there's still a few left, but they're much more manageable.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
You know.

Speaker 8 (36:11):
Trump is definitely coming into a much more you know,
maga Republican Party. He controls all three branches. The bushes
have been smashed, the Sheney's have been smashed, the mainstream
media complexes in tatters. Nobody's watching it.

Speaker 3 (36:29):
You know.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
You know, X is where most people are getting their
news or Russell Brand or Joe Rogan or Jimmy Dore.
People have completely abandoned the mainstream media, so Democrats can
rely on them for whatever narrative they want to push.
But no one's listening to those narratives anymore. They don't
have any missiles left in their silos. They've fired everything
at Trump, and look at all the Democrats that ended

(36:52):
up voting for Trump to make this mandate happen. It's
a completely different landscape than twenty sixteen. And I also
so disagreed when he said the Trumps didn't get much
done in twenty sixteen, despite how deep the swamp was.
He moved the embassy, he smashed Iceis, we got record
low tax cuts, we got the border shut down.

Speaker 1 (37:12):
He was fully he was going full steam Runnie until
the pandemic hit