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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is
the number. Okay, this is from carl On Messenger and
he makes an absolutely outstanding point. Jeff, if anyone needs
an example of how DEI is a failure, look no
further than the freak show that was the Biden cabinet.
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It checked all the boxes and simultaneously created abject failure. Bingo, bingo,
you name it. They had it. You want transgenders, they
I'm serious. Transgenders had them, bisexuals had them, non binary
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had them, across it doesn't gay, lesbian, every ethnic group
under the sun. They had it all. And look look again,
it's nothing to do with their skin color or sexual orientation.
You're not hiring the best people for the job. You're
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checking boxes, and that's why planes are falling out of
the sky. That's why you withdraw from Afghanistan the military,
you withdraw before the civilians. Who the hell does that?
You have my orcists going on about you know, we
want an open border, Please come and invade our country.
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What you can go department by department by department. So
you know, Rachel Levine there she was horrible at her
job or his job whatever, But there it is I
had the wig and the lipstick. It's a man. It's
a man with a wig and a lipstick. Okay, bravo, bravo.
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But the healthcare sucks. But oh bye boy ah, we
had transgenders. We you we you now, just to show
you how insane it is because the left has imposed
this paradigm, and that's what it is. Everything is seen
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through the lens of race and gender and sexual orientation.
That's how they want us to see the world. Well, no,
what if we said no, you got to hire by Catholics,
by religion, say Catholics. What if I said no, really, Well,
they're the biggest largest religious denomination in the country now,
and so I'm just gonna make up a figure. Uh
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you know, uh, every second job has to be a Catholic.
What would you say? What would you say? She would say, Oh,
you're insane. What does being Catholic have to do with
you know whatever? You can fly a plane, or operate
on a on a patient, or be a police or
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I don't know, run into a house, you know, blazing
a house on fire, whatever the job is being an
engineer or whatever. What the hell does that have to
do with anything?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Well?
Speaker 1 (03:11):
No, we have tabatical representation, diversity, equity, inclusion. What would
you say, or what if I said, you know, really
Satanic temple. There's a lot of Satanists now, about two
or three percent of the population and climbing our workforce.
I need more Satanists, Get me more Satanists. What would
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you say? What are you mad? What are you nuts?
That's what they've done to us with DEI. Paul in
New Hampshire, Agree, disagree? Paul in New Hampshire. Thanks for
holding Paul, and.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Welcome morning, Jeff. Thanks for taking my call, my pleasure.
I agree with hiring based on meritt I worked at
large corporation for thirty seven years in New York State,
and I saw the candidates that human resources gave to
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us to interview, which over time working there, became evident
that they were only DEI candidates. And I felt like
a minority there over time, and if you saw a
straight white guy, it felt like you were seeing a unicorn.
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But there's a couple other things I want to talk about.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Paul before we get to the other point. I promise
I'll give you a chance to finish what you want
to say. What in particular were they looking for, because
what a lot of people are telling me now, they say,
Jeff's now, it's all it's transgender. That's the latest fad.
They want transgender or do they want them? You know,
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you name it non binary, by bisexual, I just whatever
it is, but it's got to be transgender. Did you
experience that or I mean, what were they looking for
when you were there?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Mainly gay Chinese, just different countries just like that, you know,
but not necessarily the best candidates, Like you could see
in their performance that they were okay, but they weren't
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the best candidates.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Paul, can you do me a favor? I'm up against
a heartbreak. I want to finish this obviously with you.
Paul said, Hey, Jeff, look, I was in charge of
hiring where I worked, and believe me, all I got
were DEI candidates, and yeah they checked the boxes, but
in terms of their on the job performance not so good. Okay, Paul,
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please pick up where you left off, right.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
So I started working in nineteen eighty five, and it
wasn't you know, maybe the last twenty years, it just
slowly became more and more DEI. I mean, they even
had rainbow stickers for people to put on their doors
and support of DEI and things like that. I during
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my career, I even had I was working. I was
working in engineering and was doing a project, got it
to the ninety yard line, was almost ready to be launched.
They took me off of the lead, gave it to
a Chinese girl that hadn't even been on the project
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at all, put me under her, and then pushed it
across the goal line. And she got all the accolades.
And I was just the guy that worked on the project.
So I've seen it. I felt it incredible and it's bad.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
But Paul did she?
Speaker 1 (07:10):
How did she do after that? Did she last at
the company? Or did they realize they just hired an
absolute mediocrity.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
They gave her other softball projects to work on that,
you know, like she they took her into the fold
and tried to have her a shining example, but gave
her projects that were easy and in my mind, not
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that important. But she lasted.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean, to me, what a misallocation of resources? Yeah,
I mean think about it. You know, to pay someone
a salary, benefits healthcare and you know, basically they're window
dressing or you're having them work on absolutely peripheral stuff,
you know, borderline frivolous, irrelevant stuff. You know, you know
you have too many of those kinds of hires, Paul,
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You're going to go bankrupt as a company. Am I wrong?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
You're not wrong? And I saw other projects that people
would work on and I'm like, that's not going to work.
And then they bring it, spend all the resources to
try to prove if it's kind of work, and it fails,
and it's like, why are you doing that? But the
other two things I wanted to talk about were merit
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based in education as well, and also merit based on
helping the brightest kids, because let me explain, as far
as education, I think they need to bring back the
standards we used to have. The Wall Street Journal just
wrote about the standards dropping a few months ago, and
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some schools don't even do SATs anymore. So if you
want to hire people based on merit, you better be
teaching them based on merit. The other third thing I
want to say is that I feel there's a great
untapped resource of bright kids out there that happened to
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come from low income families. Myself. For example, I was
in New York State. I passed all my regents with
one hundred or three out of four were one hundred,
and I got ninety nine. On the fourth one, I
was in honors. I graduated tenth in my class of
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two hundred. I went to a community college because I
couldn't afford to go to a university. Then after I
got out of there, I went to a university and
got a bachelor's and mechanical engineering, and then got a job.
I wanted to get my master's, but I got a job,
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worked to pay off the loans. And I feel that,
you know, when Biden talks about paying off kids student loans, No,
it's not a blanket thing. What we should be doing,
I feel is finding out who these bright kids are
that need some help and help them because I feel
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there's an untapped Oh.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
No question. Well, listen, Paul, this is an absolutely dynamite call,
because this is something I have been arguing about, arguing for,
and discussing and debating with people for thirty five years,
and I so agree with you. I am in favor
of scholarships, grants, assistance based on income, not race, not gender.
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Income People who come from disadvantaged, underprivileged, low income backgrounds,
but they are clearly smart, and more importantly as you,
as you're an example, are willing to work their butt
off and ace the exams and study and master their material.
I'm sorry, they should be given a real shot at
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succeeding in higher education. And that's our future. That's the
lifeblood of our economy, is our talent. It's our people.
And so instead of dividing everybody along race or gender
or whatever, say, look, they just can't pay their poor
it's not their fault. But they want to better themselves,
they want to better their families. They work very hard.
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It's all based on merit.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
You have.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
High standardized tests, and they keep acing them. Why not
help them pay their way through college, or maybe pay
their way through college with a scholarship or a grant
or whatever, and they can move on and have immensely
successful careers and frankly help our country and the process.
And I'm telling you, I know Trump's people are listening.
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This is my rec I know Trump wants to get
rid of the Department of Education, God bless him. I
think he's going to do it, I really do. I
think this is it. Under Linda McMahon, I think he's
going to pull it off. But one of the things
I would urge them is to say, you know what,
maybe create the kind of a grant or a scholarship
at the federal level, program based on income. And there
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are so many Einstein's and so many Steve jobs, and
so many Elon Musks in our country among our people
that are waiting to be developed, and we should, we
should nurture that talent. I love it, Paul, I love it,
love it, love it. You want a merit based society,
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you have to have a merit based education system. Thank
you very much for that call. Six ' one seven
two six Sex sixty eight sixty eight day leve in Vermont.
Thanks for holding, Dave, and welcome Monsieur Jeffrey Bon Sure,
my friend, how are you.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Met. I think I got the answer to your question
about Reverend Al the activist Reverend Al.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yes, yes, the non reference.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Yeah, I think I know where he got his title.
There's probably the Theological School of tax Evasion.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
Well, I know. Samdy said that to me this morning
as well. She goes, you know, Jeff, forget which divinity
school he went to. I want to see his tax
returns because I agree with you, Dave. This guy's been
cheating and evading taxes. He's been committing tax fraud for decades.
But notice they don't go after him. But I digress.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Go ahead, Dave, and I think I'm trunk getting rid
of the DEI. It's going to be impossible to do
in the Congress, and it's going to be impossible to
do for the media as long as we have democrats
exhibeting insanity the new titles of the EI.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Well, you know, Dave, are you surprised at how much
he's gotten done in three days?
Speaker 4 (14:13):
I love it. I love it. I want to give
to you a lot more, you know.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
You know, Remember I remember in his first term. Remember
he said, we're gonna win so much, You're going to
be tired of winning. No, no, I'm never going to
get tired of winning. Let's just keep winning and winning
and winning. Agreed, Dave, Thank you very much for that call.
I really appreciate it. All right, let's go to Mike.
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You're the maestro. Where do you want me to go
to next? Mike? Anytime this century? Mike, Mike in Lynn,
Thanks for holding Mike, and welcome.
Speaker 5 (14:52):
Come on on, Jeffers and always in honer to listen.
To you and occasionally call in. I'll keep it very brief.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
Welcome yep.
Speaker 4 (15:01):
Had to hang up.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
The oil man was pulling up, so I had to
go stand in the snow to make sure he got
his check. And everything was cool. Sorry about that. Earlier
when I called to those that are up in the
senior years as I am, don't believe it, but I
am back in the seventies. Back in the seventies when
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you talk about the affirmative action and all that type
of stuff going on. I had a medical operation that
I didn't survive properly. I became handicapped in anxiety. I
woke up, I couldn't leave the room, and I two
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months earlier I had gotten married and drove up to
Pennsylvania with the bride. But anyways, so I'm in that condition,
lose my job, lose the wife, the whole deal, and
I get into the SETA program, which was a federal thing.
I immediately put out all these job applications like Shotgundom,
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not one and wait for an answer. Five years later,
put out all the ones I could. The one I'm
going to focus on.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Is Mike, can you do me a favor? I'm up
against the heartbreak. Okay, let's go right back to Mike
and Lynn. Mike, it was one of your darkest periods
in your life. You needed to get a job. You
needed to get a job fast. You sent out a
lot of applications. Please pick up where you left off.
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Jeff, Thank you, Jeff. What I did? One of those
things regular private companies as well as public applications. I
was doing. One of them was in the civil service, police, fire, corrections, officers,
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et cetera. They back then, you know, people don't well
many of your audience spread across the ages and so forth. Things,
but we didn't have welfare, you know, a lot of
us didn't have TV sets, all kinds of things. But
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back back to the employment thing. The fire department kept
kept you take the test, and then they did want
to redo it again because apparently there were complaints from
the other side or from somebody that it wasn't fear
or equal to everybody that should have been able to
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score higher. So was I was I a person that
was affected? I still have my score cards from the
police and fire and a lot of them. People were
some of my best friends playing ball and all that,
And why aren't you coming to the police department. Why
can't well, I got this condition, I can't get out
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of the house that might go to take the test
or that. But nobody seems to know why. The doctors
and stuff. It was like a brand that was like
it was like PTSD. The anesthesia they gave me in
the operation damaged the amiglia gland in the brain in
other words, in other words, the anxiety level that it
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can go up to is unlimited. And if you can
imagine what that's like, and then living alone and not
having a job. But anyways, that's what eventually I I
got in the New England telephone and eventually I ended
up meeting up with the best doctor at mass General
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world renowned three year weight. But they got me in
in two weeks. He tweaked all these different drugs and
here I am traveling all over the place at the time.
Now he's down in Florida, David Shean. Somebody look him up,
David v As invictim. I don't know what his middle
name is.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Well, I'm happy you're you know. Listen, you bounced back,
you dust it yourself off, you got up off your feet,
and God bless you, my friend. But no you're right. Look,
this is going back fifty years. How many people were
systematically discriminated against and denied jobs that they were qualified for.
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And now Trump is undone really fifty years of liberalism,
of affirmative action, and the last couple of years of diversity,
equity inclusion. Again, this is and we're only on the
third day. You know my prediction, I said, this is
going to be the best presidency of my entire life.
So far, he's living up to it. Mike, thank you
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very very much for that call. I appreciate gate it.
Steve Engroveland, thanks for holding Steve and welcome.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
That's how are you doing good?
Speaker 1 (20:08):
How are you Steve?
Speaker 4 (20:10):
Not bad? Not bad at all. And you know when
I when I hear about Shopton, I think of one
line I heard, and it's like, it goes a man
Shoptain is a man who doesn't want to face now
or the future. He just wants to face backwards. And
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that's that's him in the tea. And as far as
DEI and affirmitive action goes, if it's so great, why
don't we just apply it to the rules of the
road and see who gets through the intersections first. I
think that'll work out just fine.
Speaker 1 (20:48):
That's a very good point, Steve, That's a very very
good point. No, Look, Sharpton, and this goes back to
the late eighties, early nineties when he literally incited a riot.
You know, Sharpton's been people forget this. He's a jew hater.
I mean he's a racist. I mean he can't know
what he said about whites and white people. The guy
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is a stone cold racist. He's also a stone cold
jew hater. He's an anti Semite and he incited a
riot against Jews in New York. Everywhere this guy goes,
he spreads He's a race arsonist. He just spreads poison
wherever he goes. And that's why. Look, I agree with
the audience. He's gonna yell and scream and bark and
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howl all he wants. I think he's finished. He's washed up.
You know, he's another one that Trump is broken. And honestly,
it couldn't have happened to a worse guy. Thank you
very much for that call, Steve Rick In quinsy Rick,
I hate to do this to you. One minute left, go, Jeff.
Speaker 6 (21:54):
It's going to be real quick, and we're gonna get
to the heart of the matter Udi, who pushed it? Well,
I'll tell you three large corporations who only two countries
control more money. Yes, it's you know those two countries
at China and America. And who are these companies that
push THEI Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street. And now let's
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break up all these monopolies because they have a stranglehold
that's killing all of us.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Thank you, Jeffrey, drop to Mike. You nailed it, You
absolutely nailed it. And of course they were enabled by
Obama and by Biden and by the Democratic Party, with
the spineless Republicans offering no opposition whatsoever.