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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, blowing the lid off one of the biggest scandals
in American history, and it's just getting bigger and bigger
and bigger. So let me ask all of you, what
do you feel is going to happen next? Are you
what's the next shoe you fear is gonna drop? Because
(00:23):
that's now what everybody's bracing for. Trump now says he
wants he wants Elon to look at the Department of
Education and to see how much money has been wasted,
the level of fraud, the misappropriation of funds, the waste,
fraud and abuse that is there. Elon says, brace yourself.
(00:46):
It's gonna be a lot and it's going to be
very hard to take a lot of money has been
literally squandered right down a rat hole, and it's lined
many people's pockets, people to the Democratic Party, people close
to the many Republicans and their children. That you're going
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to see a lot of lucrative contracts, big contracts slashing around,
lining the pockets of very powerful politicians. So my question
to you, are you shocked at what has been discovered
so far? Do you fear more? And what is some
of your biggest fear and is elon accumulating too much power?
(01:31):
Are you afraid that he has two employees with access
read only access by the way to Treasury Department data
and the Treasury Department payment system. I say, to conduct
an audit.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You do?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You have?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You've got to have the tools to conduct an audit.
And audit is not tyranny, it's accountability and transparency. But
that's me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What say you?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight,
And let me ask all of you, maybe the big question.
Did you think it was gonna be this bad? I'm
gonna be honest with you, and that's why you've been
sensing the outrage all morning. I didn't think it was
gonna be this bad. Never in my wildest dreams. If
(02:25):
you told me a year ago that the United States
for decades, decades has been wasting one hundred million dollars
on Social Security payments, social Security and disability payments, you know,
people were disabled for God's sake, to illegal aliens, to
(02:49):
people with no Social Security numbers, that complete fraudsters, dead
people who somehow other people are collecting the checks, and
that this has been going on for twenty twenty five years,
and people at Treasury just didn't give a damn. I say,
come on, you're crazy, You're crazy. Well, no, I'm crazy.
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Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
rich In NATEI thanks for holding rich and welcome.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Our I'm not the wolf guy, but I've just been
wanting to do that. I'm not I'm not surprised. I mean,
I mean, you've been seeing these politicians. You know, they
go into Congress and as a regular person and they
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leave as a multi millionaire. So it doesn't surprise me. Uh,
you know, allow Elon to do what he needs to
do to expose it. But like one of your previous
calls has and I'd said this before, in pre causes,
there has to be action. I mean, something has to happen.
You have to see consequences. You know. The Democrats want
to call it retaliation. It's not retaliation, it's consequences. And
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that's why they're panicking, and you're seeing their response as
a fair based response because they have something to hide.
And a lot of these people that are in politics
also are lawyers, Ivy League educated lawyers, So I always
wondered why do they go into politics because they're the ones,
right in the laws, and that's why they're fifteen hundred
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pages long, and that's why they use all kinds of
word trickery, and they hide things and they put loopholes
in there. So I'm afraid that they are not going
to be any consequences because they've probably crafted this way
of stealing and manipulating and money laundering and in such
a way that they can't be prosecuted almost. I remember
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they were talking to bout Menendez outside the courthouse when
he first got charged, and he said, he was like,
what are you kidding me? They gotta charge me with this.
You've got to charge everybody in Congress. I mean, this
is just like it's like legalized thievery rich.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Look, we're going to have to find out, you know.
I mean, look, I hear you. You know, I'm cynical,
I'm jaded. I can't tell you how many times I
saw so many corrupt politicians who should have gone to
jail and they haven't. Look. Hillary Clinton should be behind bars,
There's no question Obama should be behind bars. Joe Biden,
(05:39):
Hunter Biden, My god, how are they not behind bars?
So the corruption in our country, in our society is
very deep, but Trump did promise that he was going
to uproot it. So far he's fulfilling his end of
the deal. And now look, we're going to find out
what Pam Bondi is made of. We're gonna find out
(06:01):
what cash Pateel is made of. We're gonna find out.
Now what many conservatives you know in the Department of Justice.
Is it all just talk or are they serious about
upholding the rule of law? Okay, A couple lines are
open if you want to jump on. But joining us now.
And it's my distinct honor and privilege to have him.
(06:22):
We've had him on many times before. He is from
mass Fiscal Alliance, Paul Craney, a big development that all
of you need to hear about, especially here in the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Paul, how are you good?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Thank you for having me on. Jeff I very much
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, you have to be on because what we're gonna,
what they're about to do with the state legislature is
another form of highway robbery. So please, Paul, let everybody
know that Mari Healy is going to try to do
a massive four hundred and twenty five million dollar bailout
of the housing the migrant housing crisis here in Massachusetts,
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and we the taxpayers, are going to be on the hook.
So can you explain exactly how she's trying to implement
now this bailout?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Definitely, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I think this is the fifth time Marie Heally has
come before the legislature asking for a temporary budget to
replenish the taxpayer funds for the Margaret shelters. This time
she's asking for four hundred and twenty five million dollars,
and on Thursday in the Massachusetts House that request was passed.
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It has not gone before the state Senate yet. But
here's the kicker, Jeff. Not only is it a ton
of taxpayer money, and anyone that's paying attention sees in
the media almost daily, if not weekly, the horrific crimes
taking place in the shelters, the line of victims, and
the taxpayer is getting ripped off with these horrible contracts
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that are most time not disclosed, but we're paying for it. However,
what was the real big kicker was on Thursday about
four or five Republican state representatives put forward amendments, so
they wanted attack on a provision. The only provision I
would consider is worthwhile to even to consider for the
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shelter program. At this point, they were trying to make
it so that ICE Immigration Customs Enforcement can cooperate with
state resources. That was all they were trying to do,
and every time the Speaker of the Massachusetts House ruled
it quote out of scope, meaning the amendment to allow
ICE to cooperate with local authorities in the shelter programs
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wasn't or mean to the budget of four hundred and
twenty five million dollars. Now that is laughable, but it's
also inexcusable. But you definitely see it struck a nerve.
So by them doing this procedural, gimmicky move, it shielded
rank and filed Democrats from having to take that tough
vote of yes or no do you think ICE can
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cooperate with state authorities? So you can see it struck
a nerve that the Speaker didn't want to touch. So
now this week, we think very early this week probably
I'm not sure because it hasn't been posted yet, but
it could be as soon as tomorrow or Wednesday, the
Massachusetts State Senate will probably take up the same amount
of money four hundred twenty five million dollars that can
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guarantee you there's going to be another debate about allowing
ICE to cooperate with local authorities. And I wanted to
come on your show because I do think us as
tax payers are going to win this fight. The state
is going to run out of money. They don't have
quote a partner and Joe Biden anymore to bail them
out with federal funds, and eventually it's going to come
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to a head. The federal authorities are they have the bandwidth,
the capability, and the desire to root out these horrible criminals,
and that type of pressure, along with not having federal
money coming in, will eventually make us so the state
is going to have to going to have to deal
with this in a way that we would like. But
for your audience, I'm asking your audience so please consider
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check out mass fiscalmassfiscal dot org. What we're trying to
do is we're trying to make it so that as
many constituents contact their lawmakers, their senator, their rep and
the governor and demand no more money for the shelter program.
It's not capable of being run correctly and another bailout
is worthwhile. The only like I said, the only type
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of reform I would even consider as worthwhile is allowing
ICE to cooperate with state authorities. If you check out
our website massfiscal dot org, you can send a quick
email into the stayhouse through your stay Rep and senator.
Our software makes it really easy. It takes about thirty
seconds forty five seconds, and when you're done, you can
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put the link on your social media page and forward
it to your friends and family so they too can
put the pressure into these politicians.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Paul, let me ask you this sixty four thousand dollars question,
because you're laying it out, I think, very clearly, very powerfully,
how much this is costing the taxpayers in Massachusetts. It's
deeply unpopular. Independents hate it, Republicans hate it. Even many
Democrats now are turning against it. So what's in it
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for Mora Healy? Why does she insist we're not doubling
down or even tripling down. Now we're quadrupling down. Why
does she want to keep pushing for these bailouts while
you have homeless veterans on the street, residents of Massachusetts,
legal residents, American citizens unable to get access to emergency shelter,
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and yet she continues to insist another four hundred and
twenty five million of our taxpayer dollars go in to
the housing to how this mogrant housing crisis. What is
driving her? Is it politics? Is it idealogy? Frankly, is
it hatred for the taxpayers and the people of our
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own commonwealth? What is it? In your view, poll, I.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Think politics is pushing her to keep it going. I
don't think she cares for the taxpayers and Massachusetts at all.
I think she will easily bankrupt our state and we've
seen that the last two and a half years with
her budgets. But I think it's politics. It's what's driving it.
And Jeff, I want to share one little tidbit of
information with your audience to show you how bad it
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is at these shelters. We've all seen the news about
the lines of victims there, and if you follow it closely,
you'll see the governor and the speaker both came out
recently the last thirty days saying they're going to reform
the shelter program and they said they're going to beef
up background checks. Now that sounds good, beefing up background checks,
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but when you read their description of how they're going
to beef up background checks. They're going to ask people
who go into our shelter program to self declare if
they have criminal records. Now, Jeff, I'm not an expert
in law enforcement. I've never been a police officer, but
I have to imagine asking people if they have criminal
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records or if they aspire to have criminal records is
probably not going to curtail the criminal activity in the
shelter programs. But those are the quote reforms they're willing
to accept, So they're not really doing anything besides bailing
out the shelter system. The only meaningful reform they could
ever do is say, you know what, the Feds. You
guys have an appetite, you have the ability, you have
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the willpower to go and take out these criminals. Let's cooperate.
Let's make us that you have a list of everyone
that's in these shelters and keep the shelter safe. But
they're not willing to do that because of politics.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Paul, we've got about a minute left. I don't want
to rush you, but I think it's important to start
putting some dollars in figures together. How much have we
spent in total under Moray heally housing migrants, feeding migrants,
educating migrants, giving healthcare to migrants. How much has this
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cost in total the hard working taxpayers of Massachusetts. How
big is the bill? The tab so far.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
So they are omitting, it's about a billion dollars per
year and we're into year three. I think it's more
like three billion dollars per year when you have all
the indirect costs as well. But you know, a billion
is almost lost on most people. But think about your town,
wherever you live. What can your town do with like
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one hundred million dollars. Think about all the streets that
could get repaved, the parks get fixed up. I mean,
this is big dollars when you start bringing it down
to the local level. So it's hard for people to
put their head around like a billion dollars a year,
three billion dollars a year times a by year three,
you know, maybe up to nine billion dollars now. But
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when you put it to your local level of a
lot of people who live in the small towns of Massachusetts,
then you realize, wow, we're foregoing all these repairs, all
these maintenance, all these things our town could really use.
And then you think about well, think about my tax
bill compared to you know, these billions of dollars. Then
you realize, wow, this is a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So more.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Heally is admitting it's about a billion dollars a year,
but I think most observers thinks it's going to be
double or tripled that per year because a lot of
the details she hasn't made public. She only allows some
things to come out. But our good our good friends
at Jessica Vaughan at the Center for Immigration Studies, she's
been kind of on top of this. We've worked with
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her a lot, and this is only going to bloon
out even more because they're not they're not really fixing it.
They're not adding a residency requirement, they're not allowing ice
to go in. They're just throwing it, throwing more money,
they're bailing it out. So we think at mass Fiscal,
no more money for the shelter program. It's a failed experiment.
The administration is not capable of running it. There shouldn't
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be more victims and the tax person foot the bill anymore.
So I'm asking your audience please check out massfiscal dot
org m assfiscal dot org and you can email your
state Senator, your state rep. And the governor takes a
half a minute or so. We have a call to
action there and that's how you get your voice heard
right now, and it's very important we put the pressure
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on these politicians.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Go to massfiscal dot org, Mass Fiscal m ass massfiscal
dot org. We've been talking with Paul Craney from Mass
Fiscal Alliance. Paul, keep up the great work, buddy, and
of course we'll have you on again. And in Dartmouth.
Thanks for holding Dan and welcome. Did we lose contact
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with Dan? All right, let's try Chris in Worcester. Thanks
for holding Chris, and welcome well.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Jeff.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
First of all, like to say thank you for everything
you do, all the crime and mismanagement of funds that
you bring to light to the real American people. Thank
you very much for that. Oh my pleasure, Chris, I say,
first and foremost, Trump elon Musk, keep going, don't stop,
don't listen to these left wing judges. Bull speed ahead,
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disobey their order, and continue finding where the funds of
going because it's costing us money and it's going to end. Now.
Let me tell you what happened on Friday. I was
down in Worcester, Okay, the central branch of the post office.
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Three illegal families were there demanding passports okay, and each
family had two anchor babies with them in each family,
so they're breeding crazy. The person inside the post office
was telling them they need to have an appointment, and
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these people were being demanded. They don't need an appointment
they wanted. Now. Everybody else has the way for the appointments,
but them. I left because I was getting aggravated just
listening to all this rhetoric that was going on. I
had to leave, so I left. Later on that day,
went to a car dealership. Now this one here is
the real setback, where there was two Indian mos trying
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to buy a vehicle. The salesman that I was dealing
with said to me that these people get special pricing,
special deals on vehicles. Okay. And at the state of
Massachusetts taxpayers came for their auto insurance, which I didn't
even know. Okay, so they get they showed that they
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show some illegal documents and they get special pricing vehicles
to the point where they can get the top of
the line to the brand they pick. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Everybody else pays stick. But these people, we'll say you, Well, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Not surprised, Chris. I mean that's been going on now
for I mean, I've been saying this line now, you know,
I don't know how many decades. Just treat me like
an illegal. Don't treat me like an American. Treat me
like an illegal, because I'll be treated much better. So
now you've got instances of Look, you have instances of
American citizens here. This just happened a month ago. A
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single mother with two children. Their house burned down. It
wasn't their fault, there was a fire. They have insurance,
but the insurance told them it's going to take a
while to rebuild a house. It was freezing cold. We
need to put you up in some kind of a
hotel or a motel. There was nothing available. They then said, well,
let's try the emergency shelter system. Nothing of it level. Why,
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because all the local hotels and motels had rented every
room at top dollar to the illegals. The emergency shelter
system was so full of illegals that this port. This
is a woman American citizen, Massachusetts resident for a very
long time with two young children. She can't get you know,
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she can't get a hotel, a motel. She had that.
She said, I'm going to sleep on the street. And
by the grace of God, she had a relative who
was willing to take her in. But had there not
been a relative, this is the tragedy. She would have
been forced to sleep on the street or in her car.
Sleep on the street or in her car. So, you see,
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illegals don't sleep on the streets. Only will Americans sleep
on the streets? Uh? You know, illegals sleep at the
Holiday Inn and they get three c re catered meals
a day with dry cleaning paid for. As an example,
homeless veterans sleep, you know, homeless veterans sleep on the street,
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and there's not one catered meal, never mind three. So
I'm not surprised at any of this. I really am not.
And I think this is the issue, more than anything else,
that propelled Donald Trump to office. And the question now
is we're starting to find out how much money has
been squandered and misspent and really wasted, really flushed down
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the toilet. So we're sending we're writing them social Security checks.
While most Americans can barely get by on Social Security
and they're telling us social Security is going broke, but
they got enough to keep writing these people checks. And
by the way, no wonder they're saying the passports don't
apply to them, that you have to wait in line
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and make it appointment. And because just look at how
they're being treated when it comes to Social Security. They're
getting social Security checks. They have a Social Security number.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I needed.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The first thing I got when I came to this
country legally was a Social Security number. The thought of
not having a functioning in America without a Social Security number,
it's unfathomable. So in the end, it's up to us,
the American people. Are we going to allow ourselves to
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be disrespected and mistreated like this? Are we going to
allow ourselves to become third class citizens in our own country,
or are we going to insist that Donald Trump and
Elon Musk, God bless them, don't just uncover all of
this waste, fraud, and abuse, but finally do something about it.
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Send these illegals to jail. Send the people in the
Treasury Department who knowingly sent them these checks, Send them
to jail.
Okay, blowing the lid off one of the biggest scandals
in American history, and it's just getting bigger and bigger
and bigger. So let me ask all of you, what
do you feel is going to happen next? Are you
what's the next shoe you fear is gonna drop? Because
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that's now what everybody's bracing for. Trump now says he
wants he wants Elon to look at the Department of
Education and to see how much money has been wasted,
the level of fraud, the misappropriation of funds, the waste,
fraud and abuse that is there. Elon says, brace yourself.
(00:46):
It's gonna be a lot and it's going to be
very hard to take a lot of money has been
literally squandered right down a rat hole, and it's lined
many people's pockets, people to the Democratic Party, people close
to the many Republicans and their children. That you're going
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to see a lot of lucrative contracts, big contracts slashing around,
lining the pockets of very powerful politicians. So my question
to you, are you shocked at what has been discovered
so far? Do you fear more? And what is some
of your biggest fear and is elon accumulating too much power?
(01:31):
Are you afraid that he has two employees with access
read only access by the way to Treasury Department data
and the Treasury Department payment system. I say, to conduct
an audit.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
You do?
Speaker 3 (01:49):
You have?
Speaker 1 (01:49):
You've got to have the tools to conduct an audit.
And audit is not tyranny, it's accountability and transparency. But
that's me.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
What say you?
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Six one seven two, six, six, sixty eight sixty eight,
And let me ask all of you, maybe the big question.
Did you think it was gonna be this bad? I'm
gonna be honest with you, and that's why you've been
sensing the outrage all morning. I didn't think it was
gonna be this bad. Never in my wildest dreams. If
(02:25):
you told me a year ago that the United States
for decades, decades has been wasting one hundred million dollars
on Social Security payments, social Security and disability payments, you know,
people were disabled for God's sake, to illegal aliens, to
(02:49):
people with no Social Security numbers, that complete fraudsters, dead
people who somehow other people are collecting the checks, and
that this has been going on for twenty twenty five years,
and people at Treasury just didn't give a damn. I say,
come on, you're crazy, You're crazy. Well, no, I'm crazy.
(03:14):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
rich In NATEI thanks for holding rich and welcome.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Our I'm not the wolf guy, but I've just been
wanting to do that. I'm not I'm not surprised. I mean,
I mean, you've been seeing these politicians. You know, they
go into Congress and as a regular person and they
(03:47):
leave as a multi millionaire. So it doesn't surprise me. Uh,
you know, allow Elon to do what he needs to
do to expose it. But like one of your previous
calls has and I'd said this before, in pre causes,
there has to be action. I mean, something has to happen.
You have to see consequences. You know. The Democrats want
to call it retaliation. It's not retaliation, it's consequences. And
(04:11):
that's why they're panicking, and you're seeing their response as
a fair based response because they have something to hide.
And a lot of these people that are in politics
also are lawyers, Ivy League educated lawyers, So I always
wondered why do they go into politics because they're the ones,
right in the laws, and that's why they're fifteen hundred
(04:32):
pages long, and that's why they use all kinds of
word trickery, and they hide things and they put loopholes
in there. So I'm afraid that they are not going
to be any consequences because they've probably crafted this way
of stealing and manipulating and money laundering and in such
a way that they can't be prosecuted almost. I remember
(04:57):
they were talking to bout Menendez outside the courthouse when
he first got charged, and he said, he was like,
what are you kidding me? They gotta charge me with this.
You've got to charge everybody in Congress. I mean, this
is just like it's like legalized thievery rich.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Look, we're going to have to find out, you know.
I mean, look, I hear you. You know, I'm cynical,
I'm jaded. I can't tell you how many times I
saw so many corrupt politicians who should have gone to
jail and they haven't. Look. Hillary Clinton should be behind bars,
There's no question Obama should be behind bars. Joe Biden,
(05:39):
Hunter Biden, My god, how are they not behind bars?
So the corruption in our country, in our society is
very deep, but Trump did promise that he was going
to uproot it. So far he's fulfilling his end of
the deal. And now look, we're going to find out
what Pam Bondi is made of. We're gonna find out
(06:01):
what cash Pateel is made of. We're gonna find out.
Now what many conservatives you know in the Department of Justice.
Is it all just talk or are they serious about
upholding the rule of law? Okay, A couple lines are
open if you want to jump on. But joining us now.
And it's my distinct honor and privilege to have him.
(06:22):
We've had him on many times before. He is from
mass Fiscal Alliance, Paul Craney, a big development that all
of you need to hear about, especially here in the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Paul, how are you good?
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Thank you for having me on. Jeff I very much
appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Well, you have to be on because what we're gonna,
what they're about to do with the state legislature is
another form of highway robbery. So please, Paul, let everybody
know that Mari Healy is going to try to do
a massive four hundred and twenty five million dollar bailout
of the housing the migrant housing crisis here in Massachusetts,
(07:07):
and we the taxpayers, are going to be on the hook.
So can you explain exactly how she's trying to implement
now this bailout?
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Definitely, Jeff.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
So.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
I think this is the fifth time Marie Heally has
come before the legislature asking for a temporary budget to
replenish the taxpayer funds for the Margaret shelters. This time
she's asking for four hundred and twenty five million dollars,
and on Thursday in the Massachusetts House that request was passed.
(07:37):
It has not gone before the state Senate yet. But
here's the kicker, Jeff. Not only is it a ton
of taxpayer money, and anyone that's paying attention sees in
the media almost daily, if not weekly, the horrific crimes
taking place in the shelters, the line of victims, and
the taxpayer is getting ripped off with these horrible contracts
(07:57):
that are most time not disclosed, but we're paying for it. However,
what was the real big kicker was on Thursday about
four or five Republican state representatives put forward amendments, so
they wanted attack on a provision. The only provision I
would consider is worthwhile to even to consider for the
(08:19):
shelter program. At this point, they were trying to make
it so that ICE Immigration Customs Enforcement can cooperate with
state resources. That was all they were trying to do,
and every time the Speaker of the Massachusetts House ruled
it quote out of scope, meaning the amendment to allow
ICE to cooperate with local authorities in the shelter programs
(08:41):
wasn't or mean to the budget of four hundred and
twenty five million dollars. Now that is laughable, but it's
also inexcusable. But you definitely see it struck a nerve.
So by them doing this procedural, gimmicky move, it shielded
rank and filed Democrats from having to take that tough
vote of yes or no do you think ICE can
(09:02):
cooperate with state authorities? So you can see it struck
a nerve that the Speaker didn't want to touch. So
now this week, we think very early this week probably
I'm not sure because it hasn't been posted yet, but
it could be as soon as tomorrow or Wednesday, the
Massachusetts State Senate will probably take up the same amount
of money four hundred twenty five million dollars that can
(09:22):
guarantee you there's going to be another debate about allowing
ICE to cooperate with local authorities. And I wanted to
come on your show because I do think us as
tax payers are going to win this fight. The state
is going to run out of money. They don't have
quote a partner and Joe Biden anymore to bail them
out with federal funds, and eventually it's going to come
(09:43):
to a head. The federal authorities are they have the bandwidth,
the capability, and the desire to root out these horrible criminals,
and that type of pressure, along with not having federal
money coming in, will eventually make us so the state
is going to have to going to have to deal
with this in a way that we would like. But
for your audience, I'm asking your audience so please consider
(10:05):
check out mass fiscalmassfiscal dot org. What we're trying to
do is we're trying to make it so that as
many constituents contact their lawmakers, their senator, their rep and
the governor and demand no more money for the shelter program.
It's not capable of being run correctly and another bailout
is worthwhile. The only like I said, the only type
(10:26):
of reform I would even consider as worthwhile is allowing
ICE to cooperate with state authorities. If you check out
our website massfiscal dot org, you can send a quick
email into the stayhouse through your stay Rep and senator.
Our software makes it really easy. It takes about thirty
seconds forty five seconds, and when you're done, you can
(10:47):
put the link on your social media page and forward
it to your friends and family so they too can
put the pressure into these politicians.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Paul, let me ask you this sixty four thousand dollars question,
because you're laying it out, I think, very clearly, very powerfully,
how much this is costing the taxpayers in Massachusetts. It's
deeply unpopular. Independents hate it, Republicans hate it. Even many
Democrats now are turning against it. So what's in it
(11:19):
for Mora Healy? Why does she insist we're not doubling
down or even tripling down. Now we're quadrupling down. Why
does she want to keep pushing for these bailouts while
you have homeless veterans on the street, residents of Massachusetts,
legal residents, American citizens unable to get access to emergency shelter,
(11:42):
and yet she continues to insist another four hundred and
twenty five million of our taxpayer dollars go in to
the housing to how this mogrant housing crisis. What is
driving her? Is it politics? Is it idealogy? Frankly, is
it hatred for the taxpayers and the people of our
(12:05):
own commonwealth? What is it? In your view, poll, I.
Speaker 4 (12:12):
Think politics is pushing her to keep it going. I
don't think she cares for the taxpayers and Massachusetts at all.
I think she will easily bankrupt our state and we've
seen that the last two and a half years with
her budgets. But I think it's politics. It's what's driving it.
And Jeff, I want to share one little tidbit of
information with your audience to show you how bad it
(12:33):
is at these shelters. We've all seen the news about
the lines of victims there, and if you follow it closely,
you'll see the governor and the speaker both came out
recently the last thirty days saying they're going to reform
the shelter program and they said they're going to beef
up background checks. Now that sounds good, beefing up background checks,
(12:54):
but when you read their description of how they're going
to beef up background checks. They're going to ask people
who go into our shelter program to self declare if
they have criminal records. Now, Jeff, I'm not an expert
in law enforcement. I've never been a police officer, but
I have to imagine asking people if they have criminal
(13:15):
records or if they aspire to have criminal records is
probably not going to curtail the criminal activity in the
shelter programs. But those are the quote reforms they're willing
to accept, So they're not really doing anything besides bailing
out the shelter system. The only meaningful reform they could
ever do is say, you know what, the Feds. You
guys have an appetite, you have the ability, you have
(13:37):
the willpower to go and take out these criminals. Let's cooperate.
Let's make us that you have a list of everyone
that's in these shelters and keep the shelter safe. But
they're not willing to do that because of politics.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
Paul, we've got about a minute left. I don't want
to rush you, but I think it's important to start
putting some dollars in figures together. How much have we
spent in total under Moray heally housing migrants, feeding migrants,
educating migrants, giving healthcare to migrants. How much has this
(14:11):
cost in total the hard working taxpayers of Massachusetts. How
big is the bill? The tab so far.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
So they are omitting, it's about a billion dollars per
year and we're into year three. I think it's more
like three billion dollars per year when you have all
the indirect costs as well. But you know, a billion
is almost lost on most people. But think about your town,
wherever you live. What can your town do with like
(14:44):
one hundred million dollars. Think about all the streets that
could get repaved, the parks get fixed up. I mean,
this is big dollars when you start bringing it down
to the local level. So it's hard for people to
put their head around like a billion dollars a year,
three billion dollars a year times a by year three,
you know, maybe up to nine billion dollars now. But
(15:05):
when you put it to your local level of a
lot of people who live in the small towns of Massachusetts,
then you realize, wow, we're foregoing all these repairs, all
these maintenance, all these things our town could really use.
And then you think about well, think about my tax
bill compared to you know, these billions of dollars. Then
you realize, wow, this is a lot of money.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
So more.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Heally is admitting it's about a billion dollars a year,
but I think most observers thinks it's going to be
double or tripled that per year because a lot of
the details she hasn't made public. She only allows some
things to come out. But our good our good friends
at Jessica Vaughan at the Center for Immigration Studies, she's
been kind of on top of this. We've worked with
(15:48):
her a lot, and this is only going to bloon
out even more because they're not they're not really fixing it.
They're not adding a residency requirement, they're not allowing ice
to go in. They're just throwing it, throwing more money,
they're bailing it out. So we think at mass Fiscal,
no more money for the shelter program. It's a failed experiment.
The administration is not capable of running it. There shouldn't
(16:09):
be more victims and the tax person foot the bill anymore.
So I'm asking your audience please check out massfiscal dot
org m assfiscal dot org and you can email your
state Senator, your state rep. And the governor takes a
half a minute or so. We have a call to
action there and that's how you get your voice heard
right now, and it's very important we put the pressure
(16:30):
on these politicians.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Go to massfiscal dot org, Mass Fiscal m ass massfiscal
dot org. We've been talking with Paul Craney from Mass
Fiscal Alliance. Paul, keep up the great work, buddy, and
of course we'll have you on again. And in Dartmouth.
Thanks for holding Dan and welcome. Did we lose contact
(16:59):
with Dan? All right, let's try Chris in Worcester. Thanks
for holding Chris, and welcome well.
Speaker 3 (17:07):
Jeff.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
First of all, like to say thank you for everything
you do, all the crime and mismanagement of funds that
you bring to light to the real American people. Thank
you very much for that. Oh my pleasure, Chris, I say,
first and foremost, Trump elon Musk, keep going, don't stop,
don't listen to these left wing judges. Bull speed ahead,
(17:31):
disobey their order, and continue finding where the funds of
going because it's costing us money and it's going to end. Now.
Let me tell you what happened on Friday. I was
down in Worcester, Okay, the central branch of the post office.
(17:51):
Three illegal families were there demanding passports okay, and each
family had two anchor babies with them in each family,
so they're breeding crazy. The person inside the post office
was telling them they need to have an appointment, and
(18:12):
these people were being demanded. They don't need an appointment
they wanted. Now. Everybody else has the way for the appointments,
but them. I left because I was getting aggravated just
listening to all this rhetoric that was going on. I
had to leave, so I left. Later on that day,
went to a car dealership. Now this one here is
the real setback, where there was two Indian mos trying
(18:37):
to buy a vehicle. The salesman that I was dealing
with said to me that these people get special pricing,
special deals on vehicles. Okay. And at the state of
Massachusetts taxpayers came for their auto insurance, which I didn't
even know. Okay, so they get they showed that they
(18:57):
show some illegal documents and they get special pricing vehicles
to the point where they can get the top of
the line to the brand they pick. Disgusting, absolutely disgusting.
Everybody else pays stick. But these people, we'll say you, Well, I'm.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Not surprised, Chris. I mean that's been going on now
for I mean, I've been saying this line now, you know,
I don't know how many decades. Just treat me like
an illegal. Don't treat me like an American. Treat me
like an illegal, because I'll be treated much better. So
now you've got instances of Look, you have instances of
American citizens here. This just happened a month ago. A
(19:37):
single mother with two children. Their house burned down. It
wasn't their fault, there was a fire. They have insurance,
but the insurance told them it's going to take a
while to rebuild a house. It was freezing cold. We
need to put you up in some kind of a
hotel or a motel. There was nothing available. They then said, well,
let's try the emergency shelter system. Nothing of it level. Why,
(20:01):
because all the local hotels and motels had rented every
room at top dollar to the illegals. The emergency shelter
system was so full of illegals that this port. This
is a woman American citizen, Massachusetts resident for a very
long time with two young children. She can't get you know,
(20:26):
she can't get a hotel, a motel. She had that.
She said, I'm going to sleep on the street. And
by the grace of God, she had a relative who
was willing to take her in. But had there not
been a relative, this is the tragedy. She would have
been forced to sleep on the street or in her car.
Sleep on the street or in her car. So, you see,
(20:48):
illegals don't sleep on the streets. Only will Americans sleep
on the streets? Uh? You know, illegals sleep at the
Holiday Inn and they get three c re catered meals
a day with dry cleaning paid for. As an example,
homeless veterans sleep, you know, homeless veterans sleep on the street,
(21:10):
and there's not one catered meal, never mind three. So
I'm not surprised at any of this. I really am not.
And I think this is the issue, more than anything else,
that propelled Donald Trump to office. And the question now
is we're starting to find out how much money has
been squandered and misspent and really wasted, really flushed down
(21:35):
the toilet. So we're sending we're writing them social Security checks.
While most Americans can barely get by on Social Security
and they're telling us social Security is going broke, but
they got enough to keep writing these people checks. And
by the way, no wonder they're saying the passports don't
apply to them, that you have to wait in line
(21:59):
and make it appointment. And because just look at how
they're being treated when it comes to Social Security. They're
getting social Security checks. They have a Social Security number.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
I needed.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
The first thing I got when I came to this
country legally was a Social Security number. The thought of
not having a functioning in America without a Social Security number,
it's unfathomable. So in the end, it's up to us,
the American people. Are we going to allow ourselves to
(22:33):
be disrespected and mistreated like this? Are we going to
allow ourselves to become third class citizens in our own country,
or are we going to insist that Donald Trump and
Elon Musk, God bless them, don't just uncover all of
this waste, fraud, and abuse, but finally do something about it.
(22:57):
Send these illegals to jail. Send the people in the
Treasury Department who knowingly sent them these checks, Send them
to jail.
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