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February 12, 2025 • 50 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Cooner country. Okay, my friends, Oh, We've got
a jam pack show for you today.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Trust me when I tell you this.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
A lot of news, a lot of developments on many fronts.
But look, without question, one of the biggest stories right
now in the country and in the world is the
heartwarming scenes, the proud scenes of an American hostage finally
returning home. Mark Fogel, an American high school teacher who

(00:34):
taught in Moscow at the Anglo American School, was detained
and arrested in Russia in August twenty twenty one on
drug charges, and in particular, he was detained because he
had medicinal marijuana. Well, they don't recognize medicinal marijuana in Russia.

(00:58):
Russia is very, very harsh when it comes to dealing
with drugs, people possessing drugs, and so they don't see
any distinctions between marijuana and that for medical purposes. So
for the last almost four years, Mark Fogel has been

(01:18):
rotting in a Russian prison. His health is deteriorating. His
family feared for the worst that he was going to die.
President Trump met with Mark Fogel's ninety five year old
mother of all places, just before he was assassinated in Butler, Pennsylvania.

(01:43):
He was so moved by her plea for her son,
and the more he found out about how this poor
American man really who had committed no crime whatsoever. I mean, yes,
it's illegal in Russia, but now he wasn't doing cocaine
or meth or heroin, or it was medicinal marijuana. He's

(02:05):
had health issues for a good part of his life,
and medicinal marijuana and most of the United States was legal,
is legal. It's not in Russia. He was caught and boom.
They threw him behind bars, where he suffered immensely. In fact,
over one hundred days he spent in a hospital. People
thought he wouldn't make it. Prisons in Russia are harsh,

(02:25):
they're brutal. They're not like here in the United States.
Trump made a promise to Mark Fogel's mother, Mark Fogel's sister,
Mark Fogel's family, we are going to bring your son
and brother home. You have my word as an American,

(02:46):
if I become the President of the United States, Mark
Fogel will step back on American soil. He made a
deal with Vladimir Putin. We don't quite know the contents
of the deal yet, but it was essentially a prisoner swap.
The Russians got something and we got Mark Fogel. Listen

(03:10):
now to Mark Fogel in the middle of the night
arriving at the Oval Office. He literally had an American
flag around his neck, beaming ear to ear and he
couldn't believe it.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
It was like a miracle.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Listen now to Mark Fogel saying, there's one hero here.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
It's not me.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It's President Trump. He and his team made it happen.
Roll cut one, Mike.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
I feel like the luckiest man on earth right now.
And I want you to know that I am not
a hero in this at all. And President Trump, this
is a hero. These men that came from the Diplomatic

(04:04):
Service are heroes. The Senators and representative as a past
legislation in my honor to get me home, are the heroes.
I am in awe of what they all did.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
I mean, you can see, you can hear and sense
the emotion obviously in the poor man's voice, what he
must have endured and suffered. Now, I want to be
crystal clear, okay, because this needs to be said. Joe
Biden at Buffoon and Kamala Harris, that other buffoon had

(04:45):
nearly four years to bring this man home, and they
did nothing. They literally did nothing. They led him Maraut
in a gulag. President Trump, within what three weeks of
his presidency, three weeks of his presidency, dispatched his envoy,

(05:08):
Steve Whitkoff. Apparently Witkoff met personally with Vladimir Putin, and
there's a thawing now of relations between the United States
and Russia. And Trump the deal maker, Trump the Statesman,
Trump the patriot, promised Mark Fogel's mother and promised Mark

(05:31):
Fogel's family, We're gonna get your boy home. He's an American.
We leave no one behind. By the way, just so
that all of you know, Trump says there's gonna be
a second American prisoner that's gonna be released today. They
were so worried about Fogel's health that they flew him

(05:53):
in last night. Witkoff is going back to Moscow. I
think he's actually in the air as I speak to
you now, to ring the second American prisoner home. But
Fogel's health is bad. They said, we got to get
him back. We got to get him back as soon
as possible. We got to get him medically examined, We
got to get him with his family. Both mentally and physically.

(06:15):
He is not doing well, and so it was almost like,
get him on a plane.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
We're not even going to wait twenty four hours.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Get him out of Russia asap, get him home right away.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Now.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
Furthermore, and just for the record, because this needs to
be said. Trump himself said it, but other media outlets
are reporting it. What's happened behind the scenes, Rubio Secretary
of State Marco Rubio apparently played an instrumental role. They
said that his diplomacy, his negotiations, his around the clock

(06:49):
work on this indispensable, absolutely indispensable. So it was both
Steve Whitkoff and Marco Rubio who really helped Trump carry
this thing over the finish line. Listen now to Mark Fogel.
He is with President Trump. He thanked his family and

(07:09):
especially his ninety five year old mother who never, never,
never gave up. Roll cut one a Mike.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
My family has been a force. I think my ninety
five year old mother is probably the most dynamic ninety five.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Year old on earth right now.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
And I am so indebted to so many people I
think I remember a Churchill quote that he said.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
When Therif was fighting the liftoff it he said that
never have so many owed so much to so few.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
And I put myself, fortunately and unfortunately into that category,
and I said, no, what has won owed so much
to so many?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I mean, look this, Look.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
When I saw the images earlier this morning, I literally
had tears in my eyes. Isn't it great to have
a president who's respected around the world Again, isn't it
great to have a president who actually cares and gives
it damn about his fellow Americans. Isn't it great, honestly

(08:33):
to have a president who is going to do whatever
it takes if you've been unfairly jailed, in prison, detained,
that this president will move heaven and earth if need be,
to bring you home. Just I've got to say this,
It's not just that it's great to have a competent
president and a courageous president, and a resilient and determined president,

(09:00):
but a patriotic president, someone who puts America and Americans first.
And to see those incredible images of Mark Fogel with
the American flag, you know, draped in the American flag
around his neck, and I don't know what he's holding,
some kind of a can. I don't know if it's
a beer or soda. You could tell he was really

(09:23):
enjoying that, baby, you know. And Trump putting his arm
around him and telling him, listen, don't worry.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
We got you.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
You're gonna get medically examined, you're gonna get checked out.
Everything is. You're gonna have a great life. Trump kept
telling him, Look, you're gonna have a great life. You're
gonna have many good years ahead of you. You're back,
you're home, You're in your country, You're with your people.
A massive diplomatic coup. No, this is a massive diplomatic

(09:55):
coup for Trump. It's a massive diplomatic coup for the
United States. And and let me tell you what else.
It shows, my friends, that Trump, now, unlike Biden, is
able to make deals and make deals now with Vladimir
Putin that I think now augur very very well for

(10:15):
a piece deal with Ukraine. This I believe is just
the beginning of a thaw and an improvement in relations
that can end that catastrophic war and bring more American
prisoners home. So I want to ask all of you,
what do you make now of the incredible scenes of

(10:36):
Mark Fogel back in the White House with President Trump.
Is Trump now already establishing himself as one of the
great statesmen in the world today? And are you impressed
with the speed the effectiveness? Okay, Trump delivers again. Mark

(10:59):
Fogel detained held in a prison in Russia for what
almost four years on drug charges. It was medicinal marijuana.
He was arrested with it at an airport in Moscow.
He was well known in the American community in Moscow.
He was a high school teacher, very well respected high
school teacher who taught at the Anglo American school in Moscow. Well,

(11:23):
the poor man has been rotting in a gulag behind
bars now for nearly four years. He said, Trump is
the man who made it happen that without Trump he
would not be home right now, or, to be more accurate,
in the White House the Oval Office with Trump last night,
he would not be back on American soil. Listen now

(11:45):
to Fogel saying thanking everyone, his family, people in Pennsylvania
where he's from, who never gave up on him, but
describing in many ways how it was a harrowing three
and a half year years roll cut one b Mike.

Speaker 3 (12:07):
This superorganism of people that came to my support.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
And the love that I was given sustain me for
three and a half years.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
In a prison that had me in hospitals for more than.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
One hundred days.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I was given more than four hundred injections in that time,
and knowing I had the support of my fellow Pennsylvanians,
my family, my friends, it was so overwhelming that.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
It brought me to my knees and it brought me
to tears.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
He was very emotional last night. In a course, I
don't blame him, just very quickly because the lines are
filling up now. So I want to get to the
calls six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
If you want to be part of the show, listen
to him say, I'll be eternally indebted to President Trump,

(13:18):
to his Special Envoy Steve Whitkoff, and to Secretary of
State Marco Rubio. He says, you don't know what it's
like to deal with the Russian government. You don't know
what it's like to deal with the Kremlin. You have
to move basically heaven and earth to get anything done,
and that's pretty much what Trump did. It was the
art of the deal. And because of the art of

(13:40):
the deal, Mark Fogel is not only home, he's alive.
Roll cut one c Mike.

Speaker 5 (13:50):
It was my energy, it was my being that kept
me going that whole time. And I will be indebted
President Trump to Steve over there. What a dynamic man
this guy is.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
When I met him, the energy, the can do attitude just.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
Exudes from his body.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
And when he smiled at me and introduced me, and
I got the feel for what has happened.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
You know, it's not.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Just me, it's's everybody and Secretary Rubio, who met my
son a while back. I'm I'm a middle class school
teacher who's now.

Speaker 6 (14:44):
In a.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Dream world.

Speaker 1 (14:49):
What he's really saying is this. You know, I'm not
a celebrity. I'm not a Britney Griner, you know that
basketball player. I'm just a middle class school teacher who
got caught up in forces much bigger than me. It
was a nightmare and almost seemed a never ending nightmare.
At times I thought I was going to die because
his health is failing, and President Trump didn't forget me,

(15:14):
and Marco Rubio didn't forget me, and Steve Whitcoff didn't
forget me, and ultimately my family and my friends and you,
the American people US, we didn't forget him. And it's
just to me. It's an incredible moment. I think it's
an incredible diplomatic victory for Trump, and I agree with Trump.

(15:36):
I think there's no question now this deal, and there's
another one coming. And there's another American coming today freed.
We don't know who, but someone's going to get freed again.
Another one's going to be freed somewhere in a Russian prison,
So American prisoners are starting to come home. This is
clearly a first step towards potentially ending the war in Ukraine.

(16:00):
And this is what I tried to say for years.
When you have a senile buffoon like Joe Biden a
child in the White House, when you call the leader
of a foreign country names a war criminal, a murderer,
responsible for genocide, how are you going to cut a deal?

(16:23):
I kept saying that the whole time you're condemning your
fellow Americans to raden that gulag until they die, you're
never going to be able to end the war in
Ukraine because they're not going to want to sit down
with you. So you've lost the ability to negotiate a settlement,
and you're confining your fellow American prisoners to basically a

(16:47):
life of brutality and misery in some ghulag in Siberia.
I'm sorry, you're an idiot. That's why presidents have never
done that before. No one did it before. Forget Trump,
Obama didn't do it. Bush didn't do it, Clinton didn't
do it, Carter didn't do it, Reagan didn't do it.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
You don't.

Speaker 1 (17:06):
You don't personalize diplomacy by just standing there in name calling.

Speaker 2 (17:12):
The head of a great power.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Why because eventually you're going to need to sit down
and negotiate. Hello, I want to quickly play the cut.
Trump had told Fogel, tonight you're sleeping in the Lincoln bedroom.
Roll cut to Mike.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
We're going to show you the Lincoln bedroom. It's very special,
special place appropriate.

Speaker 4 (17:40):
It's very appropriate, and.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
Thank you all, and I love our country and I'm
so happy to be back here, and.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
I wish I could articulate it better.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
You beautifully in Trump is right, You've done beautifully. And look,
let me just say this, Look at the pride that
Mark Fogel has in being an American.

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Kamala couldn't get him home.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Trump got him home less than what three weeks or
almost three weeks into his presidency six one, seven two,
six six sixty eight sixty eight, okay, six thirty two
on the Great Wrko Jeff Cooner, Boston's bulldozer. Let me
ask all of you, what do you make now of
this incredible achievement by Trump? Mark Fogel is on American soil.

(18:32):
In fact, I believe spent the night in the Lincoln bedroom.
He is going to be visiting his seeing his mom,
his sister, his family. They're also going to do a
lot of medical tests on him. His health is not
very good. He suffered and suffered quite a bit in
that Russian prison. Is this a diplomatic coup for Trump
and more importantly for the American people? And are we

(18:56):
now beginning to see a first step, a big step
towards ending the war with Ukraine and having better relations
with Russia? Larry in lemon Stir, you're gonna kick us off, Larry,
thanks for holding and welcome.

Speaker 8 (19:15):
Good morning, Jeff.

Speaker 9 (19:17):
How are you, sir?

Speaker 1 (19:18):
Very good Larry? Those images filled my heart with pride.
I gotta tell you beautiful, absolutely beautiful images.

Speaker 8 (19:27):
I might be in the minority, then I'm not exactly
happy with it.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Okay, now, why Larry, it's.

Speaker 8 (19:35):
Great diplomacy that it was unnecessary to spend.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Jeff.

Speaker 8 (19:41):
When you and your wife immigrated from Canada, do you
familiarize yourself with our laws?

Speaker 9 (19:47):
Yes, of course, right, this guy is a teacher.

Speaker 8 (19:52):
He's not a young little It's bad enough that we
got Brittany Grinder back, right, that idiot. But this guy's
an older teacher who either didn't bother to learn Russian's
laws to go over there.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
To teach, or ignored them.

Speaker 8 (20:11):
And put us in a position where we had to
negotiate to get them. That's what irritates me. People who
go over and go over to do work, over to live,
get in trouble because they think our laws are other
countries' laws, or or they think they don't have to

(20:32):
follow of the laws get themselves into asion. Now, don't
get me wrong, he should have been in a goolog
type prison and mistreated and stuff. But you can't go
into another country and expect not to get in trouble
if you're breaking their laws and like you said, it's
a great diplomatic coup, but you're spending capital. You know,

(20:57):
that's limited diplomatic capital. And that's how I take it.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Larry.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
Let me ask you. Let's just say I could make
you president for a day. Hey, you're now's not President Trump,
it's President Larry and Leminster and your people come to
you and say, look, he's in bad shape. We don't
know how much longer he can last in that gulag.
He may die, his his system may just completely fail.

(21:27):
We can make a deal. It's a prisoner swap. We're
gonna have to give a couple of Russians that we
have in exchange for Fogel. That's pretty much I believe
that's what Trump did. Do you make the deal, Larry,
or do you not make the deal.

Speaker 8 (21:46):
But like you said earlier, we don't know who we
exchange for that.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
But let's look.

Speaker 8 (21:53):
At Brittany Griner.

Speaker 10 (21:54):
We know who we gave up.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
You know what was he called the merchant the merchant
of death?

Speaker 9 (22:00):
Yeah, for that idiot, right, and go back to bo
Berg Doll.

Speaker 8 (22:06):
We rescued that idiot, and we gave up five the
top what al Qaida assassins or whatever. You know, it's
an It's going to be a balanced Jeff, you know.
And it's a tough decision.

Speaker 10 (22:20):
You know.

Speaker 8 (22:20):
It's like, you know, cut the baby in half, you
know what I mean, that whole thing you Yeah.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
Well, Larry, let me, Larry. I promise I'll give you
all the time you need. Larry. Look, you're a veteran.
You served your country. I didn't. You were in the
Air Force. I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Maybe you're just a harder man than I am. And
I don't mean that obviously as an insult. I mean
as a compliment. Maybe you're just made of tougher, sterner
stuff than I am. I'll be honest. I make the deal,
and I'm not denying anything that you're saying. It's perfectly rational,
perfectly logical. And I want to play this cut, okay,
And I want to get your reaction because this is

(23:05):
essentially what Trump, this is why he did the deal.
Let me and let me just let me just play
the cut. So he says he meets the mother Mark
Vogel's mother. This was just before he went on stage
in Butler, Pennsylvania, where he got assassinated, or the attempted
assassination and She said, listen, you got to get my

(23:28):
son out. He's not going to make it. Please promise me.
And Trump said, I made her a promise, and when
I make someone a promise, I keep my promise. Roll
cut two a mike.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
He's got a great mother. And when I show the
mother at a rally, she said, do you you win
when you get my son out?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
And I promise.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
She's ninety five years old. And I said, we'll get
him out.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
And we got him out pretty quickly.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
She told me that that ext exact words requite.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
An impression, and you also did. And I'm gonna know
of what you've done. Then your team bag oh and
have a great life.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Larry, ninety five year old mother comes to you.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
You're running for president, says, my boy's rotting in a gulag.
Please you're the only one that can get him out.
If you win, Please bring him home. Trump said, yes.
I don't know if you would have said yes, obviously,
but I got to ask you, you know, at least
on this level. You know what the left now cannot

(24:39):
take away from Trump is he's a man of his word,
you know. And that's the other thing. Yeah, Sanny makes
a very good point. And you know, he was shot
that day and he still remembered that he made that
promise to this ninety five year old mother. That's what
I just find really impressive about him. But anyway, Larry,
go ahead, what say you?

Speaker 10 (25:00):
Oh? Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 8 (25:02):
You know it's again, I'm not downplaying the diplomacy of it.

Speaker 9 (25:06):
It looks great.

Speaker 8 (25:08):
It is a feel good moment. You know, however you
feel about how strict in other country's laws are is irrelevant.
You have to obey them and you can't and it
is hard, but you can't put emotion into legality. That's
where we're getting away from a lot of stuff. With
a lot of these judges, they're jumping off on a

(25:29):
motion when they make their decisions. I went over to
Saudi for two and a half months. We got a
debrief on all the stuff we couldn't do. I was
in a hard position myself because they gave us a
list of all the things you can't do with your
left hand because it's an insult. And yeah, it's an

(25:49):
insult over there to you to do gesture with your
left hand. You can get into some serious trouble. Guess
what hand I use?

Speaker 2 (25:56):
You're left handed?

Speaker 9 (25:57):
Right.

Speaker 8 (25:58):
I raised my hand, I'm like hey, and they said, hey,
don't threw this up, and it was on me. And
now Jux opposed that. With what's going on with these
hostages with hammocks, those people, in my opinion, are innocent
in the sense that they were just there. You know,
we have Americans over there that are just there. I'd

(26:20):
understand moving heaven and earth to get those guys because
they just they got caught up in a terrorist act
and being held hostage. I'm not saying that, you know,
I understand that people think it was harsh that Grinder
got nine years, even though she played guilty for Hashisha's
what she had. She didn't have quite marijuana, but she

(26:41):
had a hash pipe. Both of them going there knowing
Russia is notorious for not tolerating drugs and chose to
bring it in. That's my sticking point. You know, it's
great to get our people home. You know, he served
three years, so you know, my first thought was if

(27:01):
there was a quick swap, maybe have him complete whatever
sentence he got over there over here, but that's already passed.

Speaker 10 (27:08):
It's just to media.

Speaker 9 (27:09):
It's just it's capital.

Speaker 8 (27:12):
We don't need to spend interesting, or we shouldn't have
to spend interesting.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Larry as always, thank you very much for that call.
Well let's put it on the table. Then, that's why,
That's why I love this audience, Always unpredictable, always giving
you angles you never would even think of. So let
me ask all of you what do you make of
Larry's argument that yet it's a great feel good story,
no question about it. It's a diplomatic victory for Trump

(27:41):
in America, no question about it. But we are expending
unnecessary political diplomatic capital that in a sense, Mark Fogel
has no one to blame but himself. He taught there,
he was a high school teacher there. He knew the
laws of Russia, and yet he decided to bring in
medicinal matter marijuana, knowing that that's that. Butten, it is

(28:04):
forbidden in Russia, and I'm sorry. You should know the
law and if you break the law, you have to
suffer the consequences. Agree, disagree? Should Trump have expended diplomatic
capital to bring Mark Fogel home? Larry says, no, what

(28:26):
say you? Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number? Okay, my friends, big, big
story Mark Fogel. Biden couldn't do it, Kamala Harris couldn't
do it. Trump, however, did it through Steve Whitkoff and
Marco Rubio. Six one seven two six six sixty eight

(28:49):
sixty eight is the number. Okay, massive diplomatic breakthrough now
between Russia and the United States. A logjam has now
been broken. Mark Fogel who has been sitting in a
Russian prison, rotting really in a Russian jail for three
and a half years, over drug possession charges, drug charges.

(29:11):
He was caught with medicinal marijuana. He's a teacher, high
school teacher who taught at the Anglo American school in Moscow,
basically the children of diplomats, American diplomats and foreign service
foreign service workers. So he was basically teaching their kids.
And he was caught with medicinal marijuana at the airport

(29:33):
in Moscow and boom, they dropped a hammer on him.
He was rotting behind bars for three and a half years.
Trump met Fogel's mother just before that infamous rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
She pleaded her case.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
He was so moved by her case that he came
and said to her, I will get your son home
and in about three weeks Trump is delivered. Is a big, big,
big victory, I believe for the United States, at least diplomatically.
And another American prisoner apparently is coming home today. And

(30:10):
it now signals a thaw between Russia and the United
States and our relations. And Trump yesterday said it is
a first step to maybe ending the Ukraine War. So
we shall see. But my question to you, do you
support what Trump did and do you think now this
is going to lead to even bigger changes in the

(30:33):
relationship between Russia and the United States, And or do
you agree with Larry if you go to another country
and you should know their laws, and if you break
their laws, you should suffer the consequences. Trump should not
have expended that kind of diplomatic political capital because Fogel
ultimately broke Russian law and he should have known Russian law.

(30:57):
Angelo in Rockland, thanks for holding Angelo, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Good morning, Jeff. Yeah, it's a great day. Well, you know,
getting back to that hostage, that's really good news. But
he get off the plane, they check this stuff. This
is oh, comrade, what does this matri honor? Oh, I
have a prescription coming from America. I have a prescription,
I have a medical condition, that's my medicine, or no

(31:24):
gulag fourteen years take him away. That's it. They don't
want to hear nothing. Thank god he got him out.
But I think Trump is using his diplomatic, biological mail
common sense personalities. That's why he got elected and the
world is going to benefit from it. People just cannot

(31:48):
swallow the fact that he's biological, he's dominant, he's a male.
He uses his brains for common sense things. He's going
to end the war. Things are going to come back
on track. Like Maxwell with the with her band of
non patriotic Democrats that don't want to see success. They

(32:10):
just want to cry. The audits are going well, on
and on and on. But I just want to make
one other point check because I don't hear it really
coming out and it this affects everybody. Anybody that is
receiving benefits from the government, social Security have they have

(32:33):
to do an audit for every person. And let's just
use Massachusetts. If you're collecting your retirement, you are entitled
to it. Go there, verify who you are. It goes
in the computer. They give you a receipt with a number,
tracking number and everything for every person. Your benefits will
not be will not be taken away. Just go there,

(32:55):
say who you are, receive your benefits, keep getting them,
and then at the end of the audit you might
take a year, it might take two years to go
through everything. After they do that and everybody has their
paperwork saying who they are, whoever didn't show up within
that time allotted, cancel it all. You'll save unbelievable money.

(33:15):
We'll have a surplus of money. But don't don't take
their benefits away. Keep paying your paying anyway, go through,
verify everything, and then take it from there. And let
me tell you something. You'll get the people that have
nine aliases in one household will be well.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
Bingo, Yeah, I know, Angela. Look, I don't want to
get too off topic, but look, you're you're dead on.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Look. Look, Elon just said it. Yesterday.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
There was a televised if you want to call it
a press conference, but there was Elon with his son,
who was holding his son, was adorable right beside Trump
in the Oval office, you know, right beside the desk,
and he said, we've Doge is all ready identified hundreds
of billions of dollars.

Speaker 2 (33:58):
Now, let me repeat that.

Speaker 1 (34:00):
Hundreds of billions with a B of dollars in massive
government fraud, waste, and abuse. And what that means in
plain English is they're writing social Security checks to illegal
aliens or as you put it, to eight nine people
living in an apartment. Apparently, he says, there are dead people.

(34:23):
They've died one hundred and fifty years ago, and they're
still collecting Social Security checks. So he says it's a
massive racket. It's going to bankrupt social Security. He says,
the reason why you don't want checks going to illegals
or dead people or people who are scamming the system

(34:44):
is because in the end it'll bankrupt social Security. So
people like you, Angelo and others who deserve it, have
earned it, law abiding American citizens. You want social Security
to be there for you, I mean, And and Elon
is like, I don't know how much clearer we can be.

(35:06):
We're trying to save social Security, we're trying to prevent
massive fraud of the system.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (35:15):
There's no other agenda. It's really it's that simple case, closed,
full stop. So they have to do the audit. They're
gonna continue to do the audit. In fact, Trump signed
an executive order yesterday now saying that every federal agency
in the entire government has to comply with DOGE. So

(35:35):
Trump is now doubling, tripling down. He's not backing down.
And look the number. Yesterday they said we were dead
to rights. We've got hundreds of billions of dollars in waste, fraud,
and abuse. We've already found it. Trump yesterday said, I
spoke with Elon. We think there's a trillion dollars in fraud. Easy, easy,

(35:56):
We're gonna he goes, we'll give you the number soon.
But we're looking at a trillion dollars in fraud. A trillion.
That's an unimaginable amount of money. And Elon came out
and said there's more fraud in the government than in
the entire private sector, combined, combined.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
He said, that's how bad the problem is.

Speaker 1 (36:22):
So if you're yelling and screaming against this, then what
you're saying is you're corrupt.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
It's obvious.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Now the Democrats have thoroughly revealed who and what they are.
They're on the side of massive corruption, they're on the
side of the permanent bureaucracy. They're on the side of
the entire corrupt deep state. And this is why Trump
and Elon understand that if they're going to succeed, if
they're going to rescue America and put us back on

(36:52):
a solid financial footing and save our country, you have
to do this no matter what. Angelo, thank you very
much for that call. And to bring it full circle
back to Russia. You have to do because if you
want to talk about massive fraud, the Ukraine War has
been nothing but a massive money pit. So we have Zelensky.

(37:13):
I pointed this out yesterday. It meets to bears repeating.
Zelenski has now admitted that one hundred and two billion
dollars has disappeared. Money that we sent for financial, economic,
or military aid. It is gone. It's gone. So according
to Zelenski himself, this is him admitting this. So they

(37:35):
stole over one hundred billion dollars, and I'm telling you
a lot of it went back to politicians in Washington.
It's not just him, it's not just his cronies, it's
not just his generals. That's one hundred and two billion
dollars to be specific. It's time to end this war.
Like seriously. In fact, here, let me just play Donald Trump.

(37:58):
Listen now to Trump because he's being pressed. Now, well,
did you speak to Putin? You know, did you how
did you make this deal happen for Mark Fogel and
this other prisoner now that's going to be coming home today,
And listen to Trump. Trump is when you're dealing with
diplomacy at this level, you don't say anything. You don't

(38:18):
burn any bridges, any bridges, you don't violate any confidences.
So Trump was deliberately being a little bit coy and
a little bit cagy roll cut two B Mike, did
you see torrecate it as a.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
Visit about Well, I don't want to say that.

Speaker 7 (38:36):
I just want to say that I appreciate very much
what they did and letting Mark go home, and I
appreciate Steve Whitcuff job he did and Marco behind the
scenes was unbelievable, and so many of these people were unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (38:52):
They represent him there from his area, and.

Speaker 2 (38:57):
We just wanted to get him back home.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
I had to get her back home because I would
have big trouble.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
With his mother.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's funny, that's actually funny.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
But basically, look, he's thanking Putin now already the left, Look,
could you think Putin, hey stupid. There's other Americans rotting
in the gulags over there, So what's you gonna do?
Insult them, give them the middle finger, like that's going
to get them home. American lives are at stake, by
the way, ending the war in Ukraine, we're talking saving

(39:27):
millions of lives. So of course you thank Putin. You'd
be stupid not to thank Putin. In fact, listen to Fogel.
This surprised the liberal woke press corps. They thought Fogel
would bad mouth Putin. None, no, no, no, roll cut three, Mike.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
And I also should even make mention that that President
Putin was very generous and statesmanlike in granting me a apartment.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
I mean, now, why is he saying that? Right, he
doesn't have to say that he's on American soil. Now,
it could be giving Putin a middle finger because he
knows there are other fellow Americans like him in a gulag.
In other words, by the Great you know, du want
to others as you would have done unto you. He
wants them rescued as well, he wants them freed as well.

(40:26):
So of course, thank you, mister Putin. I really appreciate it.
You were very gracious. Thank you. Stroke his ego make
him feel like, hey, you know, oh you're a statesman.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
Look at this.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
You know, hey, you even get the Nobel Peace Price
for this. In other words, you know, cooax him a
little bit. It's just being smart because he's not just
thinking about himself. He's thinking about fellow Americans who are
still being left behind. Six one seven, two sixty six,
sixty eight sixty eight is the number Dan in New Hampshire.

(41:02):
Thanks for holding Dan, and welcome.

Speaker 10 (41:06):
I just want to mention this one thing before I
go into it. But you know, up in Maine they're
trying to pass a legislation last week to eliminate ranked
choice voting. So let's hope that people will keep the
pressure on that.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
Yeah, definitely, Dan. You know, in my position, I can't
stand rank choice voting. I think it's a disaster. Dan,
What do you make of this here? Is this a
big victory for Trump? Is it a victory for America?
Or are you more with Larry and Leminster that Fogel
should have known the consequences of bringing medicinal marijuana and
that Trump is expending needless political diplomatic capital.

Speaker 10 (41:46):
Well, first of all, Jeff, only President Trump could be
doing this all everything that's happening. Nobody else could be
doing it. I've always said that, you know what, what
was a real law was? Anyways, I mean, look at
you get. We had a legal and unconstitutional mandates that
weren't laws. I didn't follow any of it, okay. And

(42:08):
as far as the federal income tax that was put
in on twelve twenty three, nineteen thirteen, illegally when they
were all on recess, okay, and then they changed several
other things. They brought into federal reserve, and they changed
the US Senate from elected to appointed to elected. So

(42:29):
they're not.

Speaker 9 (42:29):
Even to follow the laws.

Speaker 10 (42:30):
So that being said, Jeff, you know we got to
I mean, AOC is worth twenty nine million dollars and
she's going into her fifth year. You get the Pelosi
and Feinstein's family profiting from buying land with federal grants felt.

Speaker 6 (42:49):
Stolen by edment domain.

Speaker 10 (42:52):
Pelosi's husband sells it to the Feinstein family.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
And then they turn around and sell it to the railways.

Speaker 10 (43:00):
So everybody is stealings. So you got Samantha Powers x
usai ID chief. Under Biden, her networks went from six
point seven millions to thirty million dollars on the salary
of one hundred and eighty k in three years. Samantha
Powers was worked for Obama administration with Susan Rice running

(43:23):
the country into the ground, and was involved in the
under Obama under surveillance of President Trump in his twenty
sixteen campaign. I mean Obama's mother worked for USAID and
the CIA. Her father, His father was part of the
CIA program to identify and train African Americans. His stepfather,

(43:46):
Obama's stepfather, Lola Soroto, assisted and violent CIA coup against
Indonesian president, claiming I no.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
I hear you, but we're getting really far down the
road here, Dan. But what I'm just saying, and it's
not I'm not trying to protect Obama, far from it,
but I I just want to stay focused on the
issue at hand. Look, look, Trump obviously has got much
bigger fish to fry, and that was the point of
his big meeting with Elon in front of the cameras yesterday.
We're now looking at almost unimaginable levels of fraud and

(44:20):
fevery and embezzlement. There's no question. Now they're really there's
no question. But in the midst of all this and
they're going to start to clean it up, God willing,
Trump is delivering. And let me just ask all of you,
because it's the Cooner Country Pole Question of the Day
sponsored by Marios Marios Quality Roofing, siding and Windows, how

(44:47):
would you describe Trump's presidency so far?

Speaker 2 (44:52):
How would you describe it so far?

Speaker 1 (44:55):
The left, the Democrats, and the media are describing it
as a a constitutional crisis, that everything he's doing now
is a constitutional crisis or be shock and awe. And
that's what Sandy and I were talking about in the
pre show meeting. Today, I go just to see the

(45:18):
images again. They're showing it all over the TV screens
now of Fogel with the American flag draped on his shoulders,
around his neck warmly handshaking Trump and Trump putting his
hand on his shoulder and saying welcome back home, and
that beautiful big smile. And I'm like, this is getting
him out of a Russian prison, you know, and within

(45:41):
three weeks. Looking at everything that he's accomplished, whether it
be on men competing in women's sports, whether it be
on securing the border, whether it be on mass deportations,
whether it be on pulling us out of the Paris
Accords or the World Health Organization, or breaking Canada and

(46:01):
Mexico on the issue of the tariffs. I could just
go on and on and on and on. It's it's
shock and awe. And it's like Sandy said to me,
he goes. It's like he gets up every morning and
it's like, Okay, we got to keep checking these boxes.
Promises made, promises kept, Let's go. Come on, I gotta
I gotta make, you know, more promises to keep, more

(46:23):
promises to keep, Let's keep going.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
And you know.

Speaker 1 (46:27):
Mark Halprin, who's a liberal journalist, said that the pace
that Trump is now setting, with all of the achievements
and accomplishments, is going to put the Reagan Revolution to
shame if he can continue now and sustain this. So
I'm looking at Mark Fogel and I'm saying, Biden couldn't

(46:49):
bring him home outside of Britney Griner, Who the hell
did Biden bring home? And he gave away the Merchant
of Death, he gave away the store. Trump is saying, look,
I'm telling you the deal. You're going to get all
the final details. We didn't give up that much, he goes,

(47:10):
I'm telling you we gave up a little. We have
to give something, but we didn't give up that much.
So honestly, to me, it's shock and awe. I think
there's no question it's been a shock and awe presidency.
But that's me. I want to hear from you. You
can vote on our web page WRKO dot com slash

(47:30):
cooner wrko dot com slash cooner. Kuh And is in
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is in national Er. Tommy in West Virginia. Thanks for holding, Tommy,

(47:52):
and welcome.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
Winning.

Speaker 9 (48:00):
No, you know, I'm sorry. I totally disagree with Larry
from Leminster and thank you Larry for defending freedom in
the air force. This is great and I can't wait
to listen to the NPR of people on Facebook. They're

(48:22):
going to be mashing their teeth in anger at what
Trump has done. And they'll be the same ones that
defended Joe Biden with Britney Griner. They were the same
ones about what a statesman. It's just wonderful he's bringing
her home. You know, there's a big difference between medical
marijuana and a hash pipe. And you know, me, I

(48:46):
go to the Philippines quite often. And the one thing
that I made myself aware of before going to the
Philippines is number one, if you're going to get romantically
involved with another woman over there, she bet ter not
be married. Reason why, in the Philippines they passed the
law that if you are having intimate relations with a

(49:09):
married woman even though they're quote unquote separated, the husband
can make a complaint and you can get arrested in
the middle of the night. So you know, yeah, so
I want to go to Thailand. And the other thing
is with Thailand, their currency has all members of their
royal family on there, and all of a sudden, if
you pull out a large denomination of their currency called

(49:32):
the bot, and that thing blows down the street, you
don't step on that with your foot. You can get
arrested for that because that's disrespectful, you know. And when
you go to foreign countries, you better learn their customs
so you won't get into a kerfuffle. But no, I
think what Trump did with regards to this the cherry

(49:55):
on top. It was the day that they tried to
assassinate him and he didn't forget an ninety five year
old woman. This is going to be legendary on his
legacy for what he did on this. And yes, the
first thing that I thought of when I heard that
he got an American back, right, It just went to

(50:17):
my head immediately. This is a pre prelude or however
you pronounce it, to Trump sitting down with Putin. We
got to end this war in Ukraine. Just please stop.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
And you know, Tommy, you're dead on. Honestly, you're dead on.
And look, I agree with you. I think it's going
to now add to his legacy. I think it's an
incredible legacy already. And that's what impressed me the most.
He was shot that day. He came within a millimeter
of losing his life.
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