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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, my friend's massive, massive story. I'm sure most of
you have heard of it. It started over the weekend.
Elon Musk, and it's now very clear sent out an
email and in fact posted it on x after he
spoke with President Trump. So this had the clear backing,
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greenlight and authorization from the President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And many of you are going to.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Be saying, Jeff Jeheff, jefef, Well, I don't understand if
Elon sends an email and it's really a five minute
email to the entire federal bureaucracy to all federal workers
asking them specifically, can you list five things that you
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did last week?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We just want to know five things that you did
last week. And it's clear from the email that he
sent if you haven't done anything, or if you know
you're just sitting around twiddling your thumbs, then obviously you're
not essential personnel and you need to.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Go from this. All hell has.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Broken, looks. The email went out over the weekend. Federal
employees began to melt down in the Treasury Department, in
the Labor Department, in the State Department, in the Energy Department,
in the Education Department. Federal employees, bureaucrats yelling, screaming, I'm
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not kidding chaos. According to the media, chaos now is
gripping the entire government and the entire bureaucracy. People don't
know what to do. They feel uncertain, they're going to
lose their jobs. People actually workers, federal government employees. Remember
we pay their salaries. These aren't private sector. These are
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public sector. We pay their salaries and their acting and
literally their response is this is insulting, and this is
the meaning.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It is insulting and demeaning to be asked what you're
doing on your job? List me five things. Look as
Sandy and I said in the pre show production meeting,
if are superiors here, if we got an email from
you know, the top people at iHeart saying, Hey, could
you guys just you know, take five minutes and send
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us an email? What have you guys done the last week?
Give me five things you guys have done the last week?
I mean, what five minutes? It would take me two minutes,
five bullet points. But you know, I don't know, you know,
five four hour shows. Here's all the share the prep
work I did. Here's what I do on social media?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean, just.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Boom boom, boom, boom, boom boom, three minutes, five minutes tops.
It's done, it's over. You think that you are above
having to actually respond and account for yourself for what
you do. What's so insulting in demeaning. If you're actually working,
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you can provide five bullet points in til minutes, five
minutes tops. What that shows, and I think there's no
question about it, is the incredible reaction, the historyonic reaction,
the panic, the uproar, both in the media and among
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so many in the federal workforce, is that it proves
Elon Musk's point, it proves Donald Trump's point, it proves
Doge's point. There is a ton of waste, fraud and
abuse that our federal bureaucracy is so bloated, so wasteful,
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so fat, so rife with corruption, fraud and abuse that
if you ask these paper pushers in the bureaucracy to tell,
you know, can you just tell us in five bullet
points basically what did you do last week? They can't
give an answer or they say it's in you know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Who are you to ask me what I do at
my work?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, you do serve at the pleasure and the leisure
of the American taxpayer. It would be nice for us
to know what the hell do you do all day
in that office. Listen now to President Trump. President Trump
was asked specifically the media in his meeting with Macron
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outside of the issue of Ukraine, and Trump now says,
by the way, we could have peace in Ukraine in
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I hope he's right, but let that go.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
He was asked repeatedly and relentlessly about that email sent
by Elon Musk. Trump made it clear I authorized the email.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Are people working? In fact? Listen to Trump's response. He
is convinced, along with Elon, that we have god knows
how many federal workers who are collecting a salary and
a pension. By the way, and they're literally not lifting
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a finger. They're not working. They've got either they're at
home or they've got another job. This is just money
and a check being deposited in the bank. Listen now
to Trump saying, honestly, we just want to know are
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there even people that are working.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean, they're on the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Books, they're collecting a salary, they're getting a check deposited
in their accounts, but are they even doing anything? Are
they even at the office? Listen now to President Trump
World cut to Mike. Pretty clueless for someone to be
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insulting our police commissioner, who's decades of experience. That's that's yesterday, Mike,
that's yesterday's cut sheheet. This is today's cut sheet, Mike.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And to know what you did this week? You know
why you wanted that? By the way, I thought it
was great because we.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Have people that don't show up to work and nobody
even knows if they work for the government.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So by asking the question, tell.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Us what you did this week, what he's doing is
saying are you actually working?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And then if you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Don't answer, like you're sort of semi fired or you're
fired because a lot of people are not answering.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because they don't even exist.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
They're trying to find that's how badly various parts of
our government were run by it, especially by this last group.
So what they're doing is they're trying to find out
who's working for the government.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Are we paying other people that aren't working? And you know,
where's all that? Where's the money? Gun?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
We have found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud
so far, and we've just started.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He's completely right.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Look, as I reported in the past, Okay, and this
ties in directly to what we're talking about now. Twenty
five over twenty five million Americans over the age of
a hundred are collecting Social Security checks. They're registered in
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the Social Security database, tens of millions over the age
of one hundred and twenty. The oldest person in the
United States is one hundred and twelve. One person is
one hundred and twelve. The oldest person I think in
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the world is what one fourteen one point fifteen. So
this shows you the massive extent of the waste, fraud,
and abuse. Now Elon and Trump are saying, you have
no idea. We're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of
federal workers who literally are not working. They're either at
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home watching Jerry Springer and getting stoned all day and
the check just keeps coming in Cha chang cha chan
chad chang every two weeks, or they're doing another job
like whatever private sector job, whatever, they're doing something else
and the offices are empty, nobody's working and the checks
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just keep coming. So literally one of the reasons why
they sent out the email was do they even open
their emails? Can they even explain what they do at
their job? That's why it was just name us five
things that you did. Now, the fact that there was
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so much panic to begin with, as I said, I
don't want to beat a dead horse. If Bob Pittman,
who runs iHeart, sent out a massive company wide email
and you know one to me want to Sandy went
to Mike and said, what.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Did you guys do last week? Just named me five things?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm like, okay, you know you asked here it is
boom boom boom, boom boom. He'd have it back in
five minutes. I mean really, I would say. Really, My
response would be do you want the long version or
the short version? Because I could write you a mini book. Seriously,
I could write you a novella of what I do
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in a week. But if you don't want to go
through thousands of words, okay, just five bullet points you
you got it? Five minutes, chin, I hit send, you
got it. So the fact that they're panicking tells you
everything you need to know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I want to make one last point very quick, and
then I want to go to the phone line six
one seven two, sixty six, sixty eight sixty eight. Notice
how all of these federal bureaucrats, all of these federal
workers and employees.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Hey, the swamp, the rules don't apply to them.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, lines are loaded, and I always keep my word.
I said you call lines are jammed. I will go
straight to the calls. So let me ask all of
you this. Let me just set the table and we're
ready to go. Elon Musk has now sent a email
across the entire federal bureaucracy asking every federal worker you know, basically,
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give tell me five things that you've done last week.
And when I say, all hell is broken loose. I've
never seen anything like this. People are threatening to quit.
They say it's chaos, it's pandemonium, it's insulting, it's demeaning.
So I want to and of course the media is
piling on. So I want to ask you do you
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think it is insulting and demeaning to ask public sector employees? Remember,
our taxes pay their salaries to justify what they do,
to find out what they do, to ask them what
they do, and to have them respond in a five
minute email, five bullet points of what they do in
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a week? Is this unreasonable? Number one? Number two? Have
you ever been asked at your job, say, if there's
new management that comes in or new ownership or whatever,
to explain your position and justify what you do or
explain what you do at your job. I can tell
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you I've done this many times, multiple times in my career.
We had new ownership, new management, and new editor, for
example at the Washington Times, and Hey, I can't you know.
I don't an organization of thousands of people. Hi, I
don't know you all on a personal basis, So.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
What do you do? Tell me?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What do you do in a week? I never felt
insulted or demeaned and said, oh, this says outageous. How
dare you treat me like this? I'm like, okay, you
want to know here it is. Why is it that
these federal fat cat bureaucrats think that they're not accountable
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and that the rules don't apply to them. Rules in
the private sector that most of us have to adhere
to on a regular basis somehow don't apply to them. Agree, disagree?
Michael in Canton, You're gonna kick us off. Michael, thanks
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for holding and welcome.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi, Michael.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I am a long life private sector employee, and any
company that I've ever worked for has metrics so that
there is accountability across the spectrum of all employees. In fact,
all of our salespeople have to use a program that
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monitors what they do, who they're calling, what the results are,
and this way management can make decisions for the benefit
of the business in what direction it will go in.
Why is it that the public sector gets away with that?
To me, that's nonsense. They get a pension now, some
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of them are even getting Social Security on top of
their pension. What has gone wrong with the public sector?
It is bloated, inefficient and it needs to stop now.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And Michael, just to piggyback off of what you're saying,
and by the way, very powerful usually now and if
you've seen the studies coming out federal bureaucrats, public sector
workers make twice in some cases two and a half
times what private sector workers make. So not only do
they have these gold plated health plans and goal plated pensions,
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and you're right, even social Security on top of their
incredible pensions, but they're making about double or two and
a half times the salary that most people in the
private sector make. And you know, Michael, if you don't
mind me asking, if I'm getting too personal, please tell me.
I know there's a tracking system. You've laid that out
very well. But have you ever in your career, you know,
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had a supervisor or new management or cause it's happened
to me multiple times, say hey, Michael, what do you do?
Like just tell me in a week or your job description.
What is it that you do at work?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Could you send this an email let us know. Have
you had to do that? Michael A and B would
you find it? I don't know. I'm so insulted.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh my god, they're not valuing my professionalism. How dare
how dare they deign to ask me what I do?
I mean, wouldn't your attitude be okay? You want to know,
if you're the boss, here's.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
What I do.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Would you be offended? Would you be insulted? Michael uninsulted.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
It's happened to me. I've had top management come and
ask me what's going on?
Speaker 7 (16:08):
What are you doing this week?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And I'm not insulted. In fact, I'm glad they're asking,
because to me, that means that that they are on
top of their business, which is why I work for
a successful company and I want the same thing happening
in the government that I pay my taxes to. I
want results, period.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Michael dropped the Mike Excellent, excellent. I could not agree
with you more. I seriously dead on, absolutely dead on.
Mary in Brockton, Thanks for holding Mary, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I worked for VA Boston and I just wanted to
say that we did get the email listing five things.
Part of my team is melting down about it. Me personally,
it's important to be holding people accountable for their work.
We have plenty of people that show up fifteen, twenty
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thirty minutes late. And mind you, we're not punching a
time clock. So these people that show up late every
day are getting paid for it. It's insane. I think
more jobs should be holding people accountable and asking them
to write down five things.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Five things is not very many, Mary, if you don't
mind me asking, and I may have to hold you
over what are they complaining about? Like, what is it
that so offended them? You know, at VA Boston they
are there to serve the veterans. It's you know, their
salaries based off of the taxpayer, on the taxpayer's dime.
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What were they so offended? List us five things that
you did last week? What were they complaining about?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Mary?
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Complaining about just having to write the email? We have
one in particular team member that took until one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Panic, disruption, chaos, pandemonium, insulting, demeaning, infuriating. Those are just
some of the words I'm not kidding that federal employees,
federal workers are using to describe the email that was
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sent by Elon with the full backing and support of
President Trump, asking employees to name five things that they
did last week on the job. And when I say,
all hell is broken loose, all hell is broken loose.
Let's go right back to Mary in Brockton. She's one
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of those federal employees. She works for VA Boston. She
said she was happy to get the email, happy to
respond to the email, and supports the email having been
sent out. However, Mary was saying that some of her
colleagues were not so happy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Mary. Have we are you there?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Mary?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Do we have you?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I can hear you now, Okay, excellent. So Mary, you
were saying that some of your colleagues were not happy
with the email. They were upset, you said. One in
particular complained that they had to actually write the email
and that what it took so much time that it
was eating into their other chores and responsibilities.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yes, so he did not do any work and was
still saying that he could not take on any work
at one o'clock yesterday afternoon because he was writing his
five bullet points. When I got in yesterday morning, I
was so excited to do it. I wrote five things
for each day for last week that I did and completed.
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And I think that we all need to be held
accountable fair to the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh you're no, Mary, You're a thousand percent correct, but sorry.
So he comes in at about nine nine thirty whenever
he comes in, and he's still writing that email and
it's one o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Oh yeah, and this is a daily occurrence with this. Uh, well,
I won't come a team member because he's not. He's
a milker, milks out everything during the day and avoids
work as much as much as possible. And these are
the people that are giving the government employees.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
A bad name.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Incredible, incredible, Mary, how much waste, fraud, and abuse do
you think is prevalent in the federal bureaucracy? How many
people do you think, you know, like this person really
not doing anything all day. That's why he doesn't know
what to put down in the email because he doesn't
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do anything. How many do you think just don't even
show up ever since COVID many of them have been home.
They're not showing up at the office. They haven't been
four or five years now. And Trump and Musk are
suspicious and they suspect many of them are probably doing
another job or literally not doing their job at all.
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How prevalent do you think.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
That is, Mary, I think it's pretty prevalent. I mean,
we have our direct supervisor who is allowed to work
from home whenever she chooses, and people on our team
just do whatever they want because there's no accountability. And
when you bring it to their attention, they say that
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you're picking on them, and they come up with these buzzwords,
you're harassing me, things like that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow wow, Mary. Let me ask you this final question.
Trump and Elon say they can save at least the
trillion dollars, maybe two trillion dollars by cutting out all
this fat, waiste, bloat, fraud, abuse, what you're kind of describing.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Now, do you think they're right?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I do.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I would say in my department alone, we could do
away with half the staff and be fine half.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Half.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Wow, Mary, have you have you ever called a show before?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Oh? I've never called it?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Met Mary, Mary, don't be a stranger. What a call? Mary,
phenomenal call.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Thank you for your courage and thank you for your service,
because we definitely need people working at the VA, and
it's great that we have great patriots like you working
at the VA.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean, she's basically saying Elon is right, Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's why they're all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Squealing and screaming and screeching and yelling and hollering and
oh my god, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Because half of them should be fired. T'ren not working.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Fifty percent of the entire workforce is the federal bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
There's two million bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We can cut a million a million and the government
will work even better.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You can't make this up.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
just very very quick. This is from Jim on messenger, Jeff,
I am the CFO at my place.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Congratulations, Chief financial officer. Well done there, Jim.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Every week everyone needs to give me a report for
what they will be doing every week. I have required
this for years. No, I know, it's it's very common
in the private sector. They ask him to do it once.
Elon and Trump say, okay, just one time, what did
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you do? Five things that you did last week? By
the way, many of you are saying, Jeff, I do
ten fifteen things a day?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
What five in a week? I just I do a
dozen a day? What five in a week?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And they're like, hmm, it's one o'clock in the afternoon,
been working on this email for four hours. Oh geez,
five in a week. That's that's like one thing a day?
Does Does going to the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Does that count? Does Does hitting the snack bar the
vending machine?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Does that?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Does that count?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yay y yeah yeah, ye okay, all right, let me
uh one more. This is from.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Mark in Medford, and I think Mark makes an absolutely
dynamite point. So this is what Mark and Metford says, Jeff,
that's the problem. They're not doing any work. So to
ask them to take five minutes to answer a freaking
email involves actual work, which would probably be the most
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work that they've done since they've been there. And if
these people even exist, and the ones that do are
freaking out saying, oh mg, the people want us to
actually work. Oh no, we can't have that. Well, Jeff,
I have a message for these federal workers. Do your
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job or you're fired. Well, that's pretty much implicit right
in the email that was sent by Musk and by Trump.
In other words, can you justify your job? Are you
really actually doing any work? Are you doing any productive work?
And as we heard from Mary in Brockton, she said, look,
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I can just tell you in my team, in my
circle in the federal bureaucracy, fifty percent can be fired,
no problem, and we'd be leaner, meaner, more efficient fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Vince in Deutschlann Vince, the alternative for Germany did pretty good,
my buddy, yuh, twenty percent second place, and I think
they're rising. So Germany first is on the move. So
there's hope for Germany. My friend, Vince, what say you
about all of this?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Well, as far as Germany goes, there're another election cycle away.
From writing the ship because meet the new government same
as the old government. They're going to keep the border
open and it's just going to take people off even more.
And I see new elections come in problem in two years.
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But let that go, Jeff. My wife works for the government,
she works with dods. She's dealing with this right now.
And the unfortunate thing is she has a probationary employee.
He's a very hard worker, but he's taken it all
in stride. He understands what's going on. He understands that
it needs to happen, and he might be the victim,
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but like I said, he's taken it all in stride.
My wife has been in her present position since last
January when we came over here. She's been working for
the federal government for eighteen years, and her last job,
she was like, there's so much abuse and fraud going on,
it's flabbergasting. She's a government accountant, so she sees the numbers,
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and I mean, these people take two hour lunches. You
could definitely fire half the workforce. These aren't serious people.
And I tell you they're like petulant little children that
you've just spoiled to the point where you ask them
just to pick up their clothes and they throw a
complete hissy fit, you know what I mean. And these
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are abdults. It's it's completely mind boggling that it's allowed
to go on. But I tell you, ever since COVID.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
One email from Elon Musk, backed by Trump and No
saying what did you do last week? Could you just
name me five things? Like just take five minutes and
bullet proof form if you know, bullet point form, if
you can just you know, in nice little bullets there,
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just tell us, you know, basically, you know, what did
you do?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Me?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Give me five things you did? And there's a revolt
going on now in the entire federal bureaucracy. Six point
fifty on the Great WRKO Jeff Kooner, Boston's Bulldozer. All right,
let's go right back to Vince in Germany. His wife
works for the Department of Defense. She's an accountant. She
has personally seen a lot of the waste, fraud and
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abuse up and Vince says, there's a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Elon is onto something. Trump is definitely onto something. And COVID.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You mentioned something about COVID, Vince, And then we got
cut off by the break Please pick up where you
left off.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Well, when COVID hit, they kind of just had people
furloughed them and sent them home and they would work remotely,
and they got used to doing that, you know, and
they had a monitor. I mean, they had zoom meetings
and stuff, but they really had a monitor closely what
they were doing. But then they didn't monitor it. And
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I believe that COVID by design was meant to just
further blow the bureaucracy and to create chaos, you know,
just to create a breakdown where nothing gets done, you
know what I mean. And it was meant to collapse
the economy as well. I mean, let's face it, Jeff,
we know the twenty twenty election was rigged. And the
reason why it was rigged was the one thing that
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they could not get Trump on was the economy. And
how do you stop the economy with a global pandemic?
That's how you do it, you know. And we're still
living with the aftermath of it. Like I said, there's
no oversight. They say, you go into Washington, d C.
It's like a ghost town. Elon must says, you walk
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into these federal buildings on a Monday afternoon and they're empty.
There's nobody there, so they're definitely onto something. These people
aren't working. They're not working. We don't even know if
they exist. They could just be like, you know, one
hundred and twenty year old Social Security recipient.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
That's why I think.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think you put your finger right on it. That's
what many in the audience are saying. I think these
are I mean, there are people are collecting a check.
The check is going somewhere, it's going in someone's account.
But these are essentially phantom jobs, you know, like these
social Security checks you got phantom you know, people one
hundred and twenty, one hundred and thirty, one hundred and
forty years old, by the millions, and they're they're they're
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you know, someone's collecting the check. So I think you're
dead on, Vince, if you don't mind me asking you,
and I don't want to get your wife in trouble.
So if it's something that's going to get your wife
in trouble, please just say forget it. I promise I
won't be offended. You said, you know, Jeff, Look my
wife is seen it upfront. She works at DoD So
how rampant. Is these you know, these two hour lunches,
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taking afternoons off, long weekends, not even showing up to work.
Is this just one bad apple here, one bad apple there?
Or is this pretty much systemic across the entire bureaucracy.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
It's systemic and it's commonplace. I could tell you that
last summer, my wife was alone in the office doing
three jobs because her supervisor and her coworker on vacation,
doing European vacation. And I was saying to him, I'm like,
how much vacation time do they have? You know what
I mean? It's like you have to actually have vacation
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time to take vacation. Who's monitoring their timesheets? Who's monitoring
their vacation? You know what I mean? When I was
on active duty, you got thirty days a year of vacation.
But that's active duty, and that's like an anomaly. That's
not normal. You know, Like in the civilian sector, what
do you have to build up like twenty thirty years
(32:30):
of service to get two weeks vacation? Right in the
federal service, you have four day weekend. Every federal holiday,
you get a four day weekend, all right, So that's
almost like every month you're getting a four day weekend,
right then you're getting two three weeks vacation. But still,
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you know, you whittle, You're burning both ends of the candle.
You're showing up late in the morning, you're leaving early
in the afternoon, and they're taking two hour lunches and
you know what they do. I'll tell you this really
stood out. This really stood out to me. During Halloween time,
and this was a month before Halloween, everyone decided to
go over to the mall and buy Halloween decorations to
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decorate the office. That was their priority. I'm like, honey,
you don't work with serious people. This is a clown show.
And she hates to hear it, but she knows I'm right.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
And this is the Department of Defense, correct, Vince, exactly.
They're supposed to be protecting us, allegedly from Vladimir Putin
and the Russians?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Right, Am I wrong?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
And I mean we're closer to Vladimir Putin and the
Russians than you are.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Figure unbelievable, unbelievable, Vince, Dynamite, call Dynamite, Call six one
seventh is you gotta make this up?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
The guy's in Germany's wife's working in Germany, right, yeah,
how close Germany is the Ukraine in Russia and all
going on? Putin's gonna invade. Putin's gonna invade. What do
we do on Halloween every Pumpkins candy costumes? Come on, now,
you can't you can't make this stuff up. Six one
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seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Jeff in Lawrence,
thanks for holding Jeff, and welcome.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Good morning, Jeff. How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, boy, a mind the wrong line of work, Jeff.
I should have been a federal bureaucrat.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Boy did I? Did I miss my calling in life?
I could, Jeff, I could get used to this.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
You don't want to, Jeff, your mind will go stale.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Don't.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Don't federal employees fall under the purview of the executive branch?
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yes, yeah, so I don't see why.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Well, obviously they're upset because Trump is Trump. But what's
interesting is that he has found a way potentially to
balance the budget and cut costs without even having Congress involved.
And these people have such a strident arrogance about them.
It used to be in the public sector, you had
a steady job, you had good benefits and good retirement,
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but the salaries were lower. These clowns in Washington are
making you know, two hundred and fifty thousand a year,
three hundred thousand a year, one hundred and seventy five thousand.
They're making a boatload of money and they're not doing
that much and they get the benefits and the pensions that.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
We all have to pay for.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And you know, it's time to clean some house a
little bit, because guess what if they don't do it,
If this ship tips over, which I'm surprised that hasn't
yet because of the debt that we have and the
devaluation of our currency, they're all going to be very
unhappy because none of them will have jobs.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh you're dead on. Look, the thing is going to
go broke. I mean, it's going to go bankrupt. That's
why Elon and Trump are saying we have to make
these cuts. They're like this is unable, Like there's just
there's no way this country can sustain this. And you know, Jeff,
I just want to clarify because you're you're dead on.
You're completely right. But you know people may be thinking, oh, well,
Jeff's talking about you know, members of Congress or senators
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that make one seventy five or two hundred. They do,
but a lot of them are federal bureaucrats and you know,
two fifty three hundred three fifty four hundred thousand dollars and.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You're what do you do all day?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
And you know, I don't know if you've seen elon
some of his posts on on X he said, I'm
going into federal building after federal building after federal building.
They're empty, and I mean empty, empty, cobwebs, empty, No
one's been here in months. So we're renting out all
that space or whatever. We own it, but we're not
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doing anything with it. And the workers are all at
home and nobody's watching or monitoring the workers. Now, I'll
never forget this, Jeff, I knew COVID was a boondoggle.
This true story. I forget what the occasion was. I
forget now. This was during the pandemic, but like about
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a year in a year into the pandemic, and we
went to a nice little local pub.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
That was open.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
It was outside, so the kids wanted some sandwiches, like
a club sandwich or whatever. So we went to this
pub that served great sandwiches and were outside Grace, myself
and the kids.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And there were three.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
State employees behind me, Massachusetts state employees. And the reason
why I knew they were Massachusetts State employees was because
I began chatting with them and you know, talking with them,
and they said, Jeff, we haven't been to work now
in nine months. All we do is stay home. And
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these were their words, do nothing. I'm like, so, hold on,
you guys are getting paid, Oh yeah, yeah, full salary,
full benefits. Well we don't do a thing. And they
were laughing and giggling, you know. And this was like
on a on a think, on a on a Thursday
or on a Friday, and they're like like today and
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they're laughing. And then they raised their they had they
all had what they were beer with their lunch. They
raised their glass. Charlie Baker was then the governor, and
they said to Baker, to Bayker and there they were
clinking glasses and I'm like, man, oh man, this thing,
this thing is an absolute grift. This is a grift
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of the highest order. I mean, they're they're robin us blind.
And that's when I knew. I said, these people aren't serious.
Baker's not serious. Is none of these governors are serious,
and they're going to leave us, the taxpayers, with the tab.
And that's essentially what's happened now to me is incredible. Jeff,
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is okay, you rip off the system for six months,
nine months a year, but five years now, it's time
to go back to work. And so Trump gave them
a deadline elon and Trump said, we want you back
at work. What was it a this week or whatever?
The deadline is, we want you back at work. If
you're not back at work, you're not serious.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
We're going to fire you.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
And the media is going apoplectic. The public sector unions
are going crazy. The federal employee there's a slavery. Enough
is enough, Jeff, they're robbing us blind, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Jeff?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
And we're paying all the utilities for those buildings to
stay warm and keep the lights on. In addition to
all these south it's been going on for decades. Jeff
Trump needs to employ his iconic uh you know one liner,
You're fired.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're Firedly I never watched the show, but but boy,
oh we needed No. No, I don't, you're fired, you're fired.
Just line them up. You're fired. You're fired, Jeff, thank
you very very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, let me
ask you double barreled question. Do you think it's unreasonable
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for Elon Musk to have sent that email to federal
workers federal employees asking them what they did last week?
Five things that they did last week? Do you think
this is somehow out of bounds? Is this insulting? Is
this should just be offensive to workers? And number two
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to you all of you have you you've been asked
by your superior management or boss to report on what
you do during the day during the week, and did
you find it offensive? I'm just curious. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Leo in ren
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the them. Thanks for holding Leo and welcome.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
Yeah. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
How many hours a day do you work?
Speaker 9 (41:29):
Six to ten?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, I do a lot more than just six to ten, Leo.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
Yeah, probably back in bed at ten thirty in the morn.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I wish, I wish, well, I.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
Enjoy listen and tell you, but I don't know. Six
to ten those are pretty good hours.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, I get up at two thirty every morning, Leo,
So I get up very early, and I come in
very early here to the studio in Medford, and we
go through a lot of clips, We do the post
show production, and I do a lot of show prep.
I do a lot of reading to prepare for the show.
It's not I just don't come on the air, Leo.
And it just you know, off the top of my head.
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So I work easy twelve to fourteen hours a day
to put together a quality show. I mean I do
other things as well. There are meetings afterwards. I mean
there's I have other responsibilities. But in terms of you know,
show prep, doing the show, post show production, pre show production,
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getting the clips together, discussing what we're going the topics
are going to be, I'm putting in twelve to fourteen
hours a day, Leo. That's why I'd love it. Frankly,
if management sent me an email and said, you know,
can you tell me what you did last week? Five things,
I'll give you what. I'll give you twenty a day,
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never mind five forget the week, never mind five a day,
I'll give you twenty a day. So, Leo, I if
my boss sent me an email asking me what did
I do last week, I'd have no problem writing him
an email. Now, Leo, you seem a little defensive on this.
Do you work for the city by any chance?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Leo hung up.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That's too bad because he lives in rent them, so technically,
if he works for the city, Mike, literally my taxes
are paying his salary.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So I'd like to know what Leo does. What does
he do? Six?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Notice how these government bureaucrats now very touchy?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Have you noticed that? Very well?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You're on the air six to ten. Yeah, it's a
little more than just four hours on the air. Carrie
in Westbridgewater. Thanks for holding Carrie, and welcome, good morning Chaff.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
You know, as a veteran of the dreaded private sector,
that's all I've ever worked in is the dreaded private sector.
I have been laid off three times in the past
twelve years, including a job that I had for almost
twenty years, which I thought I was going to retire from,
and I got plaid off. I would have been there
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twenty years November twenty thirteen, and they laid me off
in August of twenty thirteen. I don't understand the historyonics
over these public sector workers either losing their jobs or
having to justify their jobs. Is it awful to be
laid off?
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (44:40):
Is it so crushing yes? Does it shake your confidence? Absolutely?
But you dust yourself off, you get your resume together,
you go get another job. They're no more special than
anyone in the private sector. I don't understand why they think.
I mean, gosh, I work in financial services. So during
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COVID we had to be there. They put us in
a conference room upstairs. They separate because we had the
social distance. I had no desk. I was sitting at
a conference room table, four of us on the corners,
so we could socially distance. I don't understand why these
public sector workers think they're it's absolved from actually working.
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We had to work. Why can't they.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Carry?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I agree with you completely, And look, it's not just
that they don't want to work, is that they think
they're untouchable.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
See the rules don't apply to them. You know, you're right.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
People in the private sector get laid off all the time.
And I mean excellent workers, devoted, loyal workers who've put
in years and years and years, people like you carry,
you know, in a company and you're actually thinking, hey,
I think I may even retire on this job. You know,
with this job, and before you know it, whatever a
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recession hits or whatever, change in management or whatever it is,
whatever the reason, and you're out on the street and
you're right. It is soul crushing. It's a real blow.
You lose a lot of self confidence because you think
you personalize it, which you never should.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
By the way. You trust me.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I've been involved in so many of these things over
the years where they make decisions it has nothing to
do with your personal merit. You're just a number on
a chart sheet, on a line item. That's all you are.
You know, you personalize it. You think, well, I did this,
and I did this, and I did this, and I've
been so loyal, and they don't look at it that way.
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They look at I'm just going to use a fake name, now,
you know, Carrie Johnson. Okay, one hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars salary, these kind of benefits in this department, Well,
we need a forty seven percent reduction in this department.
I can't in twenty five thousand. Nah, we got to
cut that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I mean that's literally how they look at it. It's
a number on a spreadsheet.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
They don't look at it as a human being, a person,
their value, their merit, their talent.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
They don't look at it like that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That's why I've told people over and over again, don't
take it personally when you're laid off. Believe me, it's
not personal. But it's hard. I understand that, it's really hard,
you know. And to me, that's the greatest lesson, one
of the greatest lessons my parents ever taught me, is
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you're gonna have failures in life. You're gonna get laid low.
And the key is, you know, my father always said this,
the key in life is not how hard you hit.
It's how hard you get hit and keep moving forward
because life is going to hit you with blow after blow.
So will you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and
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keep moving forward? And he said, if you do that,
he goes you will succeed. If not, you're in a
world of hurt because then you're at the mercy of
forces larger than you.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And so carry You're right.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
And to me, the scariest thing about all this really
these government and I know there's excellent people like you know,
Mary and Brockton who called I know it is very
devoted people who work in government no question, no question,
But the attitude that so many of them have that
the rules don't apply to them. No, no layoffs. That's
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for the private sector. No no, no progress reports on
what you do and your performance and your responsibilities. That's
for the private sector. You know, whatever, you know, taking
a pay cut or that's for the private sector. Having
to show up at the office five days a week,
that's for the private sector. They think the rules don't
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apply to them. They think they're untouchable. They're the swamp,
they're the permanent government, they're the permanent bureaucracy. Well, Carrie,
Trump and Trump and and Elon are giving them now
a wake up call. Welcome to reality. You're not untouchable,
and we're going to take a chainsaw to this bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Final word to you, carry.
Speaker 9 (49:29):
Exactly And if I if I could add to to
what your father said. One of the things I've learned from,
especially that job that I had for twenty years, nobody
is indispensable. So I do have a job now, I've
had it for four years. I don't have a lot
of things personal things. Has my nest like I used to,
(49:52):
There are no photos, there are no you know, personal
knick knacks or anything, because if God for bit it
happens again
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I can well you're dead on You're right,
Okay, my friend's massive, massive story. I'm sure most of
you have heard of it. It started over the weekend.
Elon Musk, and it's now very clear sent out an
email and in fact posted it on x after he
spoke with President Trump. So this had the clear backing,
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greenlight and authorization from the President of the United States.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
And many of you are going to.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Be saying, Jeff Jeheff, jefef, Well, I don't understand if
Elon sends an email and it's really a five minute
email to the entire federal bureaucracy to all federal workers
asking them specifically, can you list five things that you
(00:52):
did last week?
Speaker 2 (00:53):
That's it.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
We just want to know five things that you did
last week. And it's clear from the email that he
sent if you haven't done anything, or if you know
you're just sitting around twiddling your thumbs, then obviously you're
not essential personnel and you need to.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Go from this. All hell has.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Broken, looks. The email went out over the weekend. Federal
employees began to melt down in the Treasury Department, in
the Labor Department, in the State Department, in the Energy Department,
in the Education Department. Federal employees, bureaucrats yelling, screaming, I'm
(01:46):
not kidding chaos. According to the media, chaos now is
gripping the entire government and the entire bureaucracy. People don't
know what to do. They feel uncertain, they're going to
lose their jobs. People actually workers, federal government employees. Remember
we pay their salaries. These aren't private sector. These are
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public sector. We pay their salaries and their acting and
literally their response is this is insulting, and this is
the meaning.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (02:25):
It is insulting and demeaning to be asked what you're
doing on your job? List me five things. Look as
Sandy and I said in the pre show production meeting,
if are superiors here, if we got an email from
you know, the top people at iHeart saying, Hey, could
you guys just you know, take five minutes and send
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us an email? What have you guys done the last week?
Give me five things you guys have done the last week?
I mean, what five minutes? It would take me two minutes,
five bullet points. But you know, I don't know, you know,
five four hour shows. Here's all the share the prep
work I did. Here's what I do on social media?
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Here.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
I mean, just.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Boom boom, boom, boom, boom boom, three minutes, five minutes tops.
It's done, it's over. You think that you are above
having to actually respond and account for yourself for what
you do. What's so insulting in demeaning. If you're actually working,
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you can provide five bullet points in til minutes, five
minutes tops. What that shows, and I think there's no
question about it, is the incredible reaction, the historyonic reaction,
the panic, the uproar, both in the media and among
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so many in the federal workforce, is that it proves
Elon Musk's point, it proves Donald Trump's point, it proves
Doge's point. There is a ton of waste, fraud and
abuse that our federal bureaucracy is so bloated, so wasteful,
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so fat, so rife with corruption, fraud and abuse that
if you ask these paper pushers in the bureaucracy to tell,
you know, can you just tell us in five bullet
points basically what did you do last week? They can't
give an answer or they say it's in you know.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Who are you to ask me what I do at
my work?
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Well, you do serve at the pleasure and the leisure
of the American taxpayer. It would be nice for us
to know what the hell do you do all day
in that office. Listen now to President Trump. President Trump
was asked specifically the media in his meeting with Macron
(05:10):
outside of the issue of Ukraine, and Trump now says,
by the way, we could have peace in Ukraine in
a couple of weeks.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
I hope he's right, but let that go.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
He was asked repeatedly and relentlessly about that email sent
by Elon Musk. Trump made it clear I authorized the email.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Are people working? In fact? Listen to Trump's response. He
is convinced, along with Elon, that we have god knows
how many federal workers who are collecting a salary and
a pension. By the way, and they're literally not lifting
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a finger. They're not working. They've got either they're at
home or they've got another job. This is just money
and a check being deposited in the bank. Listen now
to Trump saying, honestly, we just want to know are
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there even people that are working.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I mean, they're on the.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Books, they're collecting a salary, they're getting a check deposited
in their accounts, but are they even doing anything? Are
they even at the office? Listen now to President Trump
World cut to Mike. Pretty clueless for someone to be
(06:42):
insulting our police commissioner, who's decades of experience. That's that's yesterday, Mike,
that's yesterday's cut sheheet. This is today's cut sheet, Mike.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
And to know what you did this week? You know
why you wanted that? By the way, I thought it
was great because we.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Have people that don't show up to work and nobody
even knows if they work for the government.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
So by asking the question, tell.
Speaker 4 (07:06):
Us what you did this week, what he's doing is
saying are you actually working?
Speaker 3 (07:11):
And then if you.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
Don't answer, like you're sort of semi fired or you're
fired because a lot of people are not answering.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Because they don't even exist.
Speaker 4 (07:20):
They're trying to find that's how badly various parts of
our government were run by it, especially by this last group.
So what they're doing is they're trying to find out
who's working for the government.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Are we paying other people that aren't working? And you know,
where's all that? Where's the money? Gun?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
We have found hundreds of billions of dollars of fraud
so far, and we've just started.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
He's completely right.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
Look, as I reported in the past, Okay, and this
ties in directly to what we're talking about now. Twenty
five over twenty five million Americans over the age of
a hundred are collecting Social Security checks. They're registered in
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the Social Security database, tens of millions over the age
of one hundred and twenty. The oldest person in the
United States is one hundred and twelve. One person is
one hundred and twelve. The oldest person I think in
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the world is what one fourteen one point fifteen. So
this shows you the massive extent of the waste, fraud,
and abuse. Now Elon and Trump are saying, you have
no idea. We're looking at potentially hundreds of thousands of
federal workers who literally are not working. They're either at
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home watching Jerry Springer and getting stoned all day and
the check just keeps coming in Cha chang cha chan
chad chang every two weeks, or they're doing another job
like whatever private sector job, whatever, they're doing something else
and the offices are empty, nobody's working and the checks
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just keep coming. So literally one of the reasons why
they sent out the email was do they even open
their emails? Can they even explain what they do at
their job? That's why it was just name us five
things that you did. Now, the fact that there was
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so much panic to begin with, as I said, I
don't want to beat a dead horse. If Bob Pittman,
who runs iHeart, sent out a massive company wide email
and you know one to me want to Sandy went
to Mike and said, what.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Did you guys do last week? Just named me five things?
Speaker 1 (09:53):
I'm like, okay, you know you asked here it is
boom boom boom, boom boom. He'd have it back in
five minutes. I mean really, I would say. Really, My
response would be do you want the long version or
the short version? Because I could write you a mini book. Seriously,
I could write you a novella of what I do
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in a week. But if you don't want to go
through thousands of words, okay, just five bullet points you
you got it? Five minutes, chin, I hit send, you
got it. So the fact that they're panicking tells you
everything you need to know.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Now.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
I want to make one last point very quick, and
then I want to go to the phone line six
one seven two, sixty six, sixty eight sixty eight. Notice
how all of these federal bureaucrats, all of these federal
workers and employees.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Hey, the swamp, the rules don't apply to them.
Speaker 1 (10:49):
Okay, lines are loaded, and I always keep my word.
I said you call lines are jammed. I will go
straight to the calls. So let me ask all of
you this. Let me just set the table and we're
ready to go. Elon Musk has now sent a email
across the entire federal bureaucracy asking every federal worker you know, basically,
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give tell me five things that you've done last week.
And when I say, all hell is broken loose. I've
never seen anything like this. People are threatening to quit.
They say it's chaos, it's pandemonium, it's insulting, it's demeaning.
So I want to and of course the media is
piling on. So I want to ask you do you
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think it is insulting and demeaning to ask public sector employees? Remember,
our taxes pay their salaries to justify what they do,
to find out what they do, to ask them what
they do, and to have them respond in a five
minute email, five bullet points of what they do in
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a week? Is this unreasonable? Number one? Number two? Have
you ever been asked at your job, say, if there's
new management that comes in or new ownership or whatever,
to explain your position and justify what you do or
explain what you do at your job. I can tell
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you I've done this many times, multiple times in my career.
We had new ownership, new management, and new editor, for
example at the Washington Times, and Hey, I can't you know.
I don't an organization of thousands of people. Hi, I
don't know you all on a personal basis, So.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
What do you do? Tell me?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
What do you do in a week? I never felt
insulted or demeaned and said, oh, this says outageous. How
dare you treat me like this? I'm like, okay, you
want to know here it is. Why is it that
these federal fat cat bureaucrats think that they're not accountable
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and that the rules don't apply to them. Rules in
the private sector that most of us have to adhere
to on a regular basis somehow don't apply to them. Agree, disagree?
Michael in Canton, You're gonna kick us off. Michael, thanks
(13:21):
for holding and welcome.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi, Michael.
Speaker 5 (13:27):
I am a long life private sector employee, and any
company that I've ever worked for has metrics so that
there is accountability across the spectrum of all employees. In fact,
all of our salespeople have to use a program that
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monitors what they do, who they're calling, what the results are,
and this way management can make decisions for the benefit
of the business in what direction it will go in.
Why is it that the public sector gets away with that?
To me, that's nonsense. They get a pension now, some
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of them are even getting Social Security on top of
their pension. What has gone wrong with the public sector?
It is bloated, inefficient and it needs to stop now.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
And Michael, just to piggyback off of what you're saying,
and by the way, very powerful usually now and if
you've seen the studies coming out federal bureaucrats, public sector
workers make twice in some cases two and a half
times what private sector workers make. So not only do
they have these gold plated health plans and goal plated pensions,
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and you're right, even social Security on top of their
incredible pensions, but they're making about double or two and
a half times the salary that most people in the
private sector make. And you know, Michael, if you don't
mind me asking, if I'm getting too personal, please tell me.
I know there's a tracking system. You've laid that out
very well. But have you ever in your career, you know,
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had a supervisor or new management or cause it's happened
to me multiple times, say hey, Michael, what do you do?
Like just tell me in a week or your job description.
What is it that you do at work?
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Could you send this an email let us know. Have
you had to do that? Michael A and B would
you find it? I don't know. I'm so insulted.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Oh my god, they're not valuing my professionalism. How dare
how dare they deign to ask me what I do?
I mean, wouldn't your attitude be okay? You want to know,
if you're the boss, here's.
Speaker 6 (15:55):
What I do.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Would you be offended? Would you be insulted? Michael uninsulted.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
It's happened to me. I've had top management come and
ask me what's going on?
Speaker 7 (16:08):
What are you doing this week?
Speaker 5 (16:10):
And I'm not insulted. In fact, I'm glad they're asking,
because to me, that means that that they are on
top of their business, which is why I work for
a successful company and I want the same thing happening
in the government that I pay my taxes to. I
want results, period.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Michael dropped the Mike Excellent, excellent. I could not agree
with you more. I seriously dead on, absolutely dead on.
Mary in Brockton, Thanks for holding Mary, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
Hi, good morning.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
I worked for VA Boston and I just wanted to
say that we did get the email listing five things.
Part of my team is melting down about it. Me personally,
it's important to be holding people accountable for their work.
We have plenty of people that show up fifteen, twenty
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thirty minutes late. And mind you, we're not punching a
time clock. So these people that show up late every
day are getting paid for it. It's insane. I think
more jobs should be holding people accountable and asking them
to write down five things.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Five things is not very many, Mary, if you don't
mind me asking, and I may have to hold you
over what are they complaining about? Like, what is it
that so offended them? You know, at VA Boston they
are there to serve the veterans. It's you know, their
salaries based off of the taxpayer, on the taxpayer's dime.
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What were they so offended? List us five things that
you did last week? What were they complaining about?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Mary?
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Complaining about just having to write the email? We have
one in particular team member that took until one o'clock.
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Panic, disruption, chaos, pandemonium, insulting, demeaning, infuriating. Those are just
some of the words I'm not kidding that federal employees,
federal workers are using to describe the email that was
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sent by Elon with the full backing and support of
President Trump, asking employees to name five things that they
did last week on the job. And when I say,
all hell is broken loose, all hell is broken loose.
Let's go right back to Mary in Brockton. She's one
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of those federal employees. She works for VA Boston. She
said she was happy to get the email, happy to
respond to the email, and supports the email having been
sent out. However, Mary was saying that some of her
colleagues were not so happy.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Mary. Have we are you there?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Mary?
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Do we have you?
Speaker 8 (19:13):
Can you hear me?
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
I can hear you now, Okay, excellent. So Mary, you
were saying that some of your colleagues were not happy
with the email. They were upset, you said. One in
particular complained that they had to actually write the email
and that what it took so much time that it
was eating into their other chores and responsibilities.
Speaker 8 (19:36):
Yes, so he did not do any work and was
still saying that he could not take on any work
at one o'clock yesterday afternoon because he was writing his
five bullet points. When I got in yesterday morning, I
was so excited to do it. I wrote five things
for each day for last week that I did and completed.
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And I think that we all need to be held
accountable fair to the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh you're no, Mary, You're a thousand percent correct, but sorry.
So he comes in at about nine nine thirty whenever
he comes in, and he's still writing that email and
it's one o'clock in the afternoon.
Speaker 8 (20:19):
Oh yeah, and this is a daily occurrence with this. Uh, well,
I won't come a team member because he's not. He's
a milker, milks out everything during the day and avoids
work as much as much as possible. And these are
the people that are giving the government employees.
Speaker 7 (20:35):
A bad name.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Incredible, incredible, Mary, how much waste, fraud, and abuse do
you think is prevalent in the federal bureaucracy? How many
people do you think, you know, like this person really
not doing anything all day. That's why he doesn't know
what to put down in the email because he doesn't
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do anything. How many do you think just don't even
show up ever since COVID many of them have been home.
They're not showing up at the office. They haven't been
four or five years now. And Trump and Musk are
suspicious and they suspect many of them are probably doing
another job or literally not doing their job at all.
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How prevalent do you think.
Speaker 8 (21:20):
That is, Mary, I think it's pretty prevalent. I mean,
we have our direct supervisor who is allowed to work
from home whenever she chooses, and people on our team
just do whatever they want because there's no accountability. And
when you bring it to their attention, they say that
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you're picking on them, and they come up with these buzzwords,
you're harassing me, things like that.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
Wow wow, Mary. Let me ask you this final question.
Trump and Elon say they can save at least the
trillion dollars, maybe two trillion dollars by cutting out all
this fat, waiste, bloat, fraud, abuse, what you're kind of describing.
Speaker 2 (22:08):
Now, do you think they're right?
Speaker 9 (22:12):
Yes?
Speaker 5 (22:12):
I do.
Speaker 8 (22:12):
I would say in my department alone, we could do
away with half the staff and be fine half.
Speaker 3 (22:20):
Half.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
Wow, Mary, have you have you ever called a show before?
Speaker 8 (22:28):
Oh? I've never called it?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Met Mary, Mary, don't be a stranger. What a call? Mary,
phenomenal call.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Thank you for your courage and thank you for your service,
because we definitely need people working at the VA, and
it's great that we have great patriots like you working
at the VA.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, there you go.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I mean, she's basically saying Elon is right, Trump is right.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
That's why they're all.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
Squealing and screaming and screeching and yelling and hollering and
oh my god, how dare you?
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Because half of them should be fired. T'ren not working.
Speaker 7 (23:05):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Fifty percent of the entire workforce is the federal bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
There's two million bureaucrats.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
We can cut a million a million and the government
will work even better.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
You can't make this up.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay,
just very very quick. This is from Jim on messenger, Jeff,
I am the CFO at my place.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Congratulations, Chief financial officer. Well done there, Jim.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Every week everyone needs to give me a report for
what they will be doing every week. I have required
this for years. No, I know, it's it's very common
in the private sector. They ask him to do it once.
Elon and Trump say, okay, just one time, what did
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you do? Five things that you did last week? By
the way, many of you are saying, Jeff, I do
ten fifteen things a day?
Speaker 2 (24:12):
What five in a week? I just I do a
dozen a day? What five in a week?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
And they're like, hmm, it's one o'clock in the afternoon,
been working on this email for four hours. Oh geez,
five in a week. That's that's like one thing a day?
Does Does going to the bathroom?
Speaker 2 (24:34):
Does that count? Does Does hitting the snack bar the
vending machine?
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Does that?
Speaker 2 (24:42):
Does that count?
Speaker 6 (24:46):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Yay y yeah yeah, ye okay, all right, let me
uh one more. This is from.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
Mark in Medford, and I think Mark makes an absolutely
dynamite point. So this is what Mark and Metford says, Jeff,
that's the problem. They're not doing any work. So to
ask them to take five minutes to answer a freaking
email involves actual work, which would probably be the most
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work that they've done since they've been there. And if
these people even exist, and the ones that do are
freaking out saying, oh mg, the people want us to
actually work. Oh no, we can't have that. Well, Jeff,
I have a message for these federal workers. Do your
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job or you're fired. Well, that's pretty much implicit right
in the email that was sent by Musk and by Trump.
In other words, can you justify your job? Are you
really actually doing any work? Are you doing any productive work?
And as we heard from Mary in Brockton, she said, look,
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I can just tell you in my team, in my
circle in the federal bureaucracy, fifty percent can be fired,
no problem, and we'd be leaner, meaner, more efficient fifty percent.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
So there you go.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
Vince in Deutschlann Vince, the alternative for Germany did pretty good,
my buddy, yuh, twenty percent second place, and I think
they're rising. So Germany first is on the move. So
there's hope for Germany. My friend, Vince, what say you
about all of this?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
Well, as far as Germany goes, there're another election cycle away.
From writing the ship because meet the new government same
as the old government. They're going to keep the border
open and it's just going to take people off even more.
And I see new elections come in problem in two years.
(27:01):
But let that go, Jeff. My wife works for the government,
she works with dods. She's dealing with this right now.
And the unfortunate thing is she has a probationary employee.
He's a very hard worker, but he's taken it all
in stride. He understands what's going on. He understands that
it needs to happen, and he might be the victim,
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but like I said, he's taken it all in stride.
My wife has been in her present position since last
January when we came over here. She's been working for
the federal government for eighteen years, and her last job,
she was like, there's so much abuse and fraud going on,
it's flabbergasting. She's a government accountant, so she sees the numbers,
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and I mean, these people take two hour lunches. You
could definitely fire half the workforce. These aren't serious people.
And I tell you they're like petulant little children that
you've just spoiled to the point where you ask them
just to pick up their clothes and they throw a
complete hissy fit, you know what I mean. And these
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are abdults. It's it's completely mind boggling that it's allowed
to go on. But I tell you, ever since COVID.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
One email from Elon Musk, backed by Trump and No
saying what did you do last week? Could you just
name me five things? Like just take five minutes and
bullet proof form if you know, bullet point form, if
you can just you know, in nice little bullets there,
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just tell us, you know, basically, you know, what did
you do?
Speaker 5 (28:38):
Me?
Speaker 1 (28:38):
Give me five things you did? And there's a revolt
going on now in the entire federal bureaucracy. Six point
fifty on the Great WRKO Jeff Kooner, Boston's Bulldozer. All right,
let's go right back to Vince in Germany. His wife
works for the Department of Defense. She's an accountant. She
has personally seen a lot of the waste, fraud and
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abuse up and Vince says, there's a lot of it.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Elon is onto something. Trump is definitely onto something. And COVID.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
You mentioned something about COVID, Vince, And then we got
cut off by the break Please pick up where you
left off.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
Well, when COVID hit, they kind of just had people
furloughed them and sent them home and they would work remotely,
and they got used to doing that, you know, and
they had a monitor. I mean, they had zoom meetings
and stuff, but they really had a monitor closely what
they were doing. But then they didn't monitor it. And
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I believe that COVID by design was meant to just
further blow the bureaucracy and to create chaos, you know,
just to create a breakdown where nothing gets done, you
know what I mean. And it was meant to collapse
the economy as well. I mean, let's face it, Jeff,
we know the twenty twenty election was rigged. And the
reason why it was rigged was the one thing that
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they could not get Trump on was the economy. And
how do you stop the economy with a global pandemic?
That's how you do it, you know. And we're still
living with the aftermath of it. Like I said, there's
no oversight. They say, you go into Washington, d C.
It's like a ghost town. Elon must says, you walk
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into these federal buildings on a Monday afternoon and they're empty.
There's nobody there, so they're definitely onto something. These people
aren't working. They're not working. We don't even know if
they exist. They could just be like, you know, one
hundred and twenty year old Social Security recipient.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
That's why I think.
Speaker 1 (30:42):
I think you put your finger right on it. That's
what many in the audience are saying. I think these
are I mean, there are people are collecting a check.
The check is going somewhere, it's going in someone's account.
But these are essentially phantom jobs, you know, like these
social Security checks you got phantom you know, people one
hundred and twenty, one hundred and thirty, one hundred and
forty years old, by the millions, and they're they're they're
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you know, someone's collecting the check. So I think you're
dead on, Vince, if you don't mind me asking you,
and I don't want to get your wife in trouble.
So if it's something that's going to get your wife
in trouble, please just say forget it. I promise I
won't be offended. You said, you know, Jeff, Look my
wife is seen it upfront. She works at DoD So
how rampant. Is these you know, these two hour lunches,
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taking afternoons off, long weekends, not even showing up to work.
Is this just one bad apple here, one bad apple there?
Or is this pretty much systemic across the entire bureaucracy.
Speaker 7 (31:46):
It's systemic and it's commonplace. I could tell you that
last summer, my wife was alone in the office doing
three jobs because her supervisor and her coworker on vacation,
doing European vacation. And I was saying to him, I'm like,
how much vacation time do they have? You know what
I mean? It's like you have to actually have vacation
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time to take vacation. Who's monitoring their timesheets? Who's monitoring
their vacation? You know what I mean? When I was
on active duty, you got thirty days a year of vacation.
But that's active duty, and that's like an anomaly. That's
not normal. You know, Like in the civilian sector, what
do you have to build up like twenty thirty years
(32:30):
of service to get two weeks vacation? Right in the
federal service, you have four day weekend. Every federal holiday,
you get a four day weekend, all right, So that's
almost like every month you're getting a four day weekend,
right then you're getting two three weeks vacation. But still,
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you know, you whittle, You're burning both ends of the candle.
You're showing up late in the morning, you're leaving early
in the afternoon, and they're taking two hour lunches and
you know what they do. I'll tell you this really
stood out. This really stood out to me. During Halloween time,
and this was a month before Halloween, everyone decided to
go over to the mall and buy Halloween decorations to
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decorate the office. That was their priority. I'm like, honey,
you don't work with serious people. This is a clown show.
And she hates to hear it, but she knows I'm right.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
And this is the Department of Defense, correct, Vince, exactly.
They're supposed to be protecting us, allegedly from Vladimir Putin
and the Russians?
Speaker 2 (33:34):
Right, Am I wrong?
Speaker 7 (33:36):
And I mean we're closer to Vladimir Putin and the
Russians than you are.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Figure unbelievable, unbelievable, Vince, Dynamite, call Dynamite, Call six one
seventh is you gotta make this up?
Speaker 1 (33:49):
The guy's in Germany's wife's working in Germany, right, yeah,
how close Germany is the Ukraine in Russia and all
going on? Putin's gonna invade. Putin's gonna invade. What do
we do on Halloween every Pumpkins candy costumes? Come on, now,
you can't you can't make this stuff up. Six one
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seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Jeff in Lawrence,
thanks for holding Jeff, and welcome.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
Good morning, Jeff. How are you good? Good?
Speaker 1 (34:24):
I mean, boy, a mind the wrong line of work, Jeff.
I should have been a federal bureaucrat.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Boy did I? Did I miss my calling in life?
I could, Jeff, I could get used to this.
Speaker 6 (34:40):
You don't want to, Jeff, your mind will go stale.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Don't.
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Don't federal employees fall under the purview of the executive branch?
Speaker 7 (34:50):
Yes, yeah, so I don't see why.
Speaker 6 (34:54):
Well, obviously they're upset because Trump is Trump. But what's
interesting is that he has found a way potentially to
balance the budget and cut costs without even having Congress involved.
And these people have such a strident arrogance about them.
It used to be in the public sector, you had
a steady job, you had good benefits and good retirement,
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but the salaries were lower. These clowns in Washington are
making you know, two hundred and fifty thousand a year,
three hundred thousand a year, one hundred and seventy five thousand.
They're making a boatload of money and they're not doing
that much and they get the benefits and the pensions that.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
We all have to pay for.
Speaker 6 (35:33):
And you know, it's time to clean some house a
little bit, because guess what if they don't do it,
If this ship tips over, which I'm surprised that hasn't
yet because of the debt that we have and the
devaluation of our currency, they're all going to be very
unhappy because none of them will have jobs.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
Oh you're dead on. Look, the thing is going to
go broke. I mean, it's going to go bankrupt. That's
why Elon and Trump are saying we have to make
these cuts. They're like this is unable, Like there's just
there's no way this country can sustain this. And you know, Jeff,
I just want to clarify because you're you're dead on.
You're completely right. But you know people may be thinking, oh, well,
Jeff's talking about you know, members of Congress or senators
(36:14):
that make one seventy five or two hundred. They do,
but a lot of them are federal bureaucrats and you know,
two fifty three hundred three fifty four hundred thousand dollars and.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
You're what do you do all day?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
And you know, I don't know if you've seen elon
some of his posts on on X he said, I'm
going into federal building after federal building after federal building.
They're empty, and I mean empty, empty, cobwebs, empty, No
one's been here in months. So we're renting out all
that space or whatever. We own it, but we're not
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doing anything with it. And the workers are all at
home and nobody's watching or monitoring the workers. Now, I'll
never forget this, Jeff, I knew COVID was a boondoggle.
This true story. I forget what the occasion was. I
forget now. This was during the pandemic, but like about
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a year in a year into the pandemic, and we
went to a nice little local pub.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
That was open.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
It was outside, so the kids wanted some sandwiches, like
a club sandwich or whatever. So we went to this
pub that served great sandwiches and were outside Grace, myself
and the kids.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And there were three.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
State employees behind me, Massachusetts state employees. And the reason
why I knew they were Massachusetts State employees was because
I began chatting with them and you know, talking with them,
and they said, Jeff, we haven't been to work now
in nine months. All we do is stay home. And
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these were their words, do nothing. I'm like, so, hold on,
you guys are getting paid, Oh yeah, yeah, full salary,
full benefits. Well we don't do a thing. And they
were laughing and giggling, you know. And this was like
on a on a think, on a on a Thursday
or on a Friday, and they're like like today and
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they're laughing. And then they raised their they had they
all had what they were beer with their lunch. They
raised their glass. Charlie Baker was then the governor, and
they said to Baker, to Bayker and there they were
clinking glasses and I'm like, man, oh man, this thing,
this thing is an absolute grift. This is a grift
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of the highest order. I mean, they're they're robin us blind.
And that's when I knew. I said, these people aren't serious.
Baker's not serious. Is none of these governors are serious,
and they're going to leave us, the taxpayers, with the tab.
And that's essentially what's happened now to me is incredible. Jeff,
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is okay, you rip off the system for six months,
nine months a year, but five years now, it's time
to go back to work. And so Trump gave them
a deadline elon and Trump said, we want you back
at work. What was it a this week or whatever?
The deadline is, we want you back at work. If
you're not back at work, you're not serious.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
We're going to fire you.
Speaker 1 (39:35):
And the media is going apoplectic. The public sector unions
are going crazy. The federal employee there's a slavery. Enough
is enough, Jeff, they're robbing us blind, Am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Jeff?
Speaker 3 (39:53):
No?
Speaker 6 (39:53):
And we're paying all the utilities for those buildings to
stay warm and keep the lights on. In addition to
all these south it's been going on for decades. Jeff
Trump needs to employ his iconic uh you know one liner,
You're fired.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're Firedly I never watched the show, but but boy,
oh we needed No. No, I don't, you're fired, you're fired.
Just line them up. You're fired. You're fired, Jeff, thank
you very very much for that call. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, let me
ask you double barreled question. Do you think it's unreasonable
(40:32):
for Elon Musk to have sent that email to federal
workers federal employees asking them what they did last week?
Five things that they did last week? Do you think
this is somehow out of bounds? Is this insulting? Is
this should just be offensive to workers? And number two
(40:57):
to you all of you have you you've been asked
by your superior management or boss to report on what
you do during the day during the week, and did
you find it offensive? I'm just curious. Six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Leo in ren
(41:20):
the them. Thanks for holding Leo and welcome.
Speaker 7 (41:25):
Yeah. Let me ask you a question.
Speaker 5 (41:27):
How many hours a day do you work?
Speaker 9 (41:29):
Six to ten?
Speaker 3 (41:31):
Well?
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Yeah, I do a lot more than just six to ten, Leo.
Speaker 7 (41:35):
Yeah, probably back in bed at ten thirty in the morn.
Speaker 2 (41:40):
I wish, I wish, well, I.
Speaker 7 (41:44):
Enjoy listen and tell you, but I don't know. Six
to ten those are pretty good hours.
Speaker 1 (41:49):
Well, I get up at two thirty every morning, Leo,
So I get up very early, and I come in
very early here to the studio in Medford, and we
go through a lot of clips, We do the post
show production, and I do a lot of show prep.
I do a lot of reading to prepare for the show.
It's not I just don't come on the air, Leo.
And it just you know, off the top of my head.
(42:12):
So I work easy twelve to fourteen hours a day
to put together a quality show. I mean I do
other things as well. There are meetings afterwards. I mean
there's I have other responsibilities. But in terms of you know,
show prep, doing the show, post show production, pre show production,
(42:36):
getting the clips together, discussing what we're going the topics
are going to be, I'm putting in twelve to fourteen
hours a day, Leo. That's why I'd love it. Frankly,
if management sent me an email and said, you know,
can you tell me what you did last week? Five things,
I'll give you what. I'll give you twenty a day,
(42:57):
never mind five forget the week, never mind five a day,
I'll give you twenty a day. So, Leo, I if
my boss sent me an email asking me what did
I do last week, I'd have no problem writing him
an email. Now, Leo, you seem a little defensive on this.
Do you work for the city by any chance?
Speaker 2 (43:20):
Leo hung up.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
That's too bad because he lives in rent them, so technically,
if he works for the city, Mike, literally my taxes
are paying his salary.
Speaker 2 (43:29):
So I'd like to know what Leo does. What does
he do? Six?
Speaker 1 (43:35):
Notice how these government bureaucrats now very touchy?
Speaker 2 (43:39):
Have you noticed that? Very well?
Speaker 1 (43:40):
You're on the air six to ten. Yeah, it's a
little more than just four hours on the air. Carrie
in Westbridgewater. Thanks for holding Carrie, and welcome, good morning Chaff.
Speaker 9 (43:57):
You know, as a veteran of the dreaded private sector,
that's all I've ever worked in is the dreaded private sector.
I have been laid off three times in the past
twelve years, including a job that I had for almost
twenty years, which I thought I was going to retire from,
and I got plaid off. I would have been there
(44:19):
twenty years November twenty thirteen, and they laid me off
in August of twenty thirteen. I don't understand the historyonics
over these public sector workers either losing their jobs or
having to justify their jobs. Is it awful to be
laid off?
Speaker 5 (44:40):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (44:40):
Is it so crushing yes? Does it shake your confidence? Absolutely?
But you dust yourself off, you get your resume together,
you go get another job. They're no more special than
anyone in the private sector. I don't understand why they think.
I mean, gosh, I work in financial services. So during
(45:02):
COVID we had to be there. They put us in
a conference room upstairs. They separate because we had the
social distance. I had no desk. I was sitting at
a conference room table, four of us on the corners,
so we could socially distance. I don't understand why these
public sector workers think they're it's absolved from actually working.
(45:25):
We had to work. Why can't they.
Speaker 2 (45:29):
Carry?
Speaker 1 (45:30):
I agree with you completely, And look, it's not just
that they don't want to work, is that they think
they're untouchable.
Speaker 2 (45:37):
See the rules don't apply to them. You know, you're right.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
People in the private sector get laid off all the time.
And I mean excellent workers, devoted, loyal workers who've put
in years and years and years, people like you carry,
you know, in a company and you're actually thinking, hey,
I think I may even retire on this job. You know,
with this job, and before you know it, whatever a
(46:01):
recession hits or whatever, change in management or whatever it is,
whatever the reason, and you're out on the street and
you're right. It is soul crushing. It's a real blow.
You lose a lot of self confidence because you think
you personalize it, which you never should.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
By the way. You trust me.
Speaker 1 (46:19):
I've been involved in so many of these things over
the years where they make decisions it has nothing to
do with your personal merit. You're just a number on
a chart sheet, on a line item. That's all you are.
You know, you personalize it. You think, well, I did this,
and I did this, and I did this, and I've
been so loyal, and they don't look at it that way.
(46:42):
They look at I'm just going to use a fake name, now,
you know, Carrie Johnson. Okay, one hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars salary, these kind of benefits in this department, Well,
we need a forty seven percent reduction in this department.
I can't in twenty five thousand. Nah, we got to
cut that. Okay.
Speaker 2 (47:03):
I mean that's literally how they look at it. It's
a number on a spreadsheet.
Speaker 1 (47:09):
They don't look at it as a human being, a person,
their value, their merit, their talent.
Speaker 2 (47:17):
They don't look at it like that.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
That's why I've told people over and over again, don't
take it personally when you're laid off. Believe me, it's
not personal. But it's hard. I understand that, it's really hard,
you know. And to me, that's the greatest lesson, one
of the greatest lessons my parents ever taught me, is
(47:40):
you're gonna have failures in life. You're gonna get laid low.
And the key is, you know, my father always said this,
the key in life is not how hard you hit.
It's how hard you get hit and keep moving forward
because life is going to hit you with blow after blow.
So will you pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and
(48:04):
keep moving forward? And he said, if you do that,
he goes you will succeed. If not, you're in a
world of hurt because then you're at the mercy of
forces larger than you.
Speaker 2 (48:18):
And so carry You're right.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
And to me, the scariest thing about all this really
these government and I know there's excellent people like you know,
Mary and Brockton who called I know it is very
devoted people who work in government no question, no question,
But the attitude that so many of them have that
the rules don't apply to them. No, no layoffs. That's
(48:42):
for the private sector. No no, no progress reports on
what you do and your performance and your responsibilities. That's
for the private sector. You know, whatever, you know, taking
a pay cut or that's for the private sector. Having
to show up at the office five days a week,
that's for the private sector. They think the rules don't
(49:05):
apply to them. They think they're untouchable. They're the swamp,
they're the permanent government, they're the permanent bureaucracy. Well, Carrie,
Trump and Trump and and Elon are giving them now
a wake up call. Welcome to reality. You're not untouchable,
and we're going to take a chainsaw to this bureaucracy.
Speaker 2 (49:26):
Final word to you, carry.
Speaker 9 (49:29):
Exactly And if I if I could add to to
what your father said. One of the things I've learned from,
especially that job that I had for twenty years, nobody
is indispensable. So I do have a job now, I've
had it for four years. I don't have a lot
of things personal things. Has my nest like I used to,
(49:52):
There are no photos, there are no you know, personal
knick knacks or anything, because if God for bit it
happens again
Speaker 2 (50:01):
I can well you're dead on You're right,
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