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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now. In fact, we're just about to get
her on the phone, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto. She's got very very strong feelings about this
whole issue. Grace. How are you, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I am very well and first and foremost, I want
to commend you on your incredible coverage, your knowledge and
your wisdom speaks volumes this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, thank you. As you know, the neo conservatives now
are waging a vicious online campaign against me, saying that
I'm a Jew hater and an anti Semite, and there's memes.
They're sending me memes of me in a Hitler mustache
and with a Nazi armband because I oppose direct US
(00:58):
involvement in the war. I mean, this is what I
mean when I say there's scum and their swine. That's
what they do. They do character assassination, they're smear merchants,
and honestly, that's why we can't have you know, look,
I don't want to get into the whole Tucker Carlson
Mark Levin debate, but I mean, it's like a bunch
of children, like we can't have an adult rational discussion
(01:20):
without vicious smears and vicious attacks and vicious name calling.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, Jeff, you're completely right, and that's the kind of
behavior that we have consistently bashed the left for. We
don't want to see it on the right. And one
of the things that I want to see is maga
behaving respectfully to one another. This is a very important debate,
and think about it. Think how united we all are
(01:47):
truly at this moment in this sense, we all now
support this remarkable moment in history that Israel is bombing around.
I mean, this is overall there's agreement on that that
Israel should bomb Iran, and that the Mullas shouldn't have
the bomb, that they ultimately will have it, and that
(02:10):
the time for diplomacy is over. I mean, for the
most part, there's unanimity on that. So what's the discussion
now whether or not we as Americans should get involved
and to what extent is our involvement. But think how
far we've come. Think about the Biden years where Biden
didn't give Israel enough support, and now because Trump is there,
(02:31):
Israel has the support that it needs to conduct what
has been a miraculous campaign so far. Look at that
they have control over the skies of Iran. Do you
know what an achievement that is. I am blown away
by Bibi Netanyahu. He has been magnificent. The Israeli troops
(02:54):
and the intelligence has been extraordinary. What a terrific moment.
And if this is not the time to parl petty
insults at one another, We're on the cusp of history
right now. Trump has to make a momentous decision, and
he has to make it by also keeping his movement intact,
because we have more than just one thing to achieve.
(03:16):
But Jeff, make no mistake about it. I believe that
Trump was spared that bullet hitting him in Butler, Pennsylvania,
so he could be here at this moment to strongly
support Israel in its campaign to rid the world of
this menace of a possible nuclear bomb in the region
(03:37):
that has been held over the head of the Israeli
state for decades and really the head of the world.
This is a key moment for Donald Trump. He has
an important decision to make and MAGA has to remain
united as we go forward.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, Grace let me ask you as literally as I'm
talking to you. The Middle East now is on edge.
We are sending in massive navy assets into the region.
Trump is now seriously weighing whether the United States should
now enter the fight between Israel and Iran. If you
(04:12):
were advising him right now, if you were in a
situation room, what would you tell the president to do?
Should he bomb Iran or stay out?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Jeff, I firmly believe he campaigned on putting America first,
and right now simply by giving Israel the support that
he's giving, the moral support, all the backing that he's
giving is enough. We should not get involved any further
than the involvement that we have so far. He did
(04:44):
promise to end endless wars, and much of MAGA wants
him to. You know, it's going to hold him to that,
So what he needs to do. In my view, though,
I would go a little bit further than you. I
would not even give those bunker buster bombers. I wouldn't
give it. Israel is doing a phenomenal job, and I
thought that up to basically yesterday, the two of them
(05:05):
together were awesome. So Trump was playing the good cop.
Netan Yahoo was the bad cop, and that's how you
achieve big things in world history. So keep American fingerprints
and involvement out. The Israelis do not need us meddling.
Let them do it for themselves. And one of the
things we've learned, when individuals do things for themselves, whether
(05:29):
it is human beings in the United States, citizens or nations,
those results tend to be lasting. Whenever somebody tries to
do something for somebody else, it's always a short term
band aid kind of a solution. Let nations do things
for themselves. The Israelis are brilliant at defending themselves. Let
(05:49):
them continue to do so, and let the Iranian people
rise up and overthrow this barbaric, oppressive, and disgusting regime.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Great. There's a lot of debate now in Congress and
around the country that if I underline the word if,
because no decision, final decision has been made, But if
Trump decides we are going to go in and we
are going to strike Iran and join Israel in this
massive campaign against the Mulla's military campaign, that there should
(06:22):
be a vote in Congress that Congress must weigh in,
Congress must give its approval. Where do you stand.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
On that I do think so, Jeff, because I want
to see everybody on the record, because there's going to
be consequences if we do get involved any further. There's
going to be consequences. And those who have rushed American
boys and women, you know, men and women into war,
I want them ultimately, ultimately to be held accountable for
that decision and that vote. So I do think that
(06:54):
we should do that, and that's what we used to do.
Let's hold our presidents accountable, and let's hold every single
member of Congress accountable when we make such a huge decision.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now I'm just curious, Grace, when you look now at
the situation and the tensions are very, very very high.
My fear and the fear of many in the audience,
is that the Deep State in particular could now use
this as a false flag. In other words, if they
(07:27):
want to drag Trump into this war in Iran, they
could set up an assassination attempt on Trump. This is
openly I mean, people are worried about this. Trump supporters are,
and this way enrage MAGA and dragoon the country into
this war against Iran. The globalists know this, The Deep
(07:49):
States knows this that if we get involved in a
full fledged war, this will this will shatter and break
Trump's presidency. Do we have to look out for a
potential false flag assassination attempt on the president to lure
US now into a war against Iran.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, Jeff, that's one of many, many possibilities. But I
think that Donald Trump and MAGA, they're wise to these tactics. Now.
I'm not so much concerned about that. What I am
concerned about is that Trump might be persuaded by the argument,
coming even from today's editorial in the Wall Street Journal,
that if we provide the adequate armaments, we're going to
(08:32):
end this conflict sooner. That's the argument that they're using.
I'm concerned that he's going to be roped in simply
by the arguments that this is a legacy making moment
for him, that he's going to solve this problem for
all time. All these grandiose visions that I know really
appeal to him. Instead, what he has to recognize is
(08:55):
return to what he did during his first term. Just
provide peace for the next few years, keep us out
of war for the next few years. Don't get roped
into these grandiose visions. I opposed him. When he talked
about Panama, I didn't like what he was saying about
Canada and the fifty first State. I hated when he
went on about Greenland. I just want him to do
(09:18):
what he did during the first term. Just deliver peace
for four years and focus on what you promised. This
is what we voted for you to do. We voted
for you to keep your head cool when there is
a war frenzy. It's easy to say no wars when
there's no war frenzy. This is the moment that I
want to see that spine of steel from Donald Trump,
(09:41):
and I want him to keep his promise, keep his
head straight, give us peace for four years. That is
an example that can go forward in the next four years,
in the next four years by other leaders. But don't
get swayed by grandiose visions of prominent solution solving. This
is what I've seen creeping in the Trump administration. He
(10:02):
wants like permanent solutions. That is like an ideology that
is very destructive. All you can ever achieve is small,
practical wins and do that every single day, and after
four years you've changed the country. But when you go
for the big, grand wins. You really court disaster because
(10:22):
you are you're sailing next to hubris. You know you're
sailing with hubris instead of with humility. And we need
our leaders to remain humble and wise in every decision
that they make.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Grace, We've got literally one minute left, so I need
you to be very concise and very tight. What's your
prediction Trump's going to make a decision next twenty four
forty eight hours. Will he take us to war or
will he keep us out?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm just concerned. The last series of posts on Truth
Social I really dislike them. I dislike that he's using
the word we. I dislike that he's saying unconditional surrender.
I dislike the tone. I dislike the direction that he's
going in. I wish he would just return to the
day before. I think that's the path that he should take.
(11:13):
And I hope that he listens to me and you
and many other people who are telling him to stick
to his own his own initial instincts and his promises.
And I'm just hoping for that. I'm seeing a dangerous
trend in these.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Posts, though, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace
Voto Jeff doesn't get a day off.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This request came from his wife. The Kuner Report weekend
edition on the Boys of Boston WRKO
Boston's Bulldozer never sleeps The Kooner Report weekend edition on
the Voice of Boston WRKO.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Joining me now. In fact, we're just about to get
her on the phone, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place,
Grace Vuoto. She's got very very strong feelings about this
whole issue. Grace. How are you, Jeff?
Speaker 3 (00:23):
I am very well and first and foremost, I want
to commend you on your incredible coverage, your knowledge and
your wisdom speaks volumes this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Well, thank you. As you know, the neo conservatives now
are waging a vicious online campaign against me, saying that
I'm a Jew hater and an anti Semite, and there's memes.
They're sending me memes of me in a Hitler mustache
and with a Nazi armband because I oppose direct US
(00:58):
involvement in the war. I mean, this is what I
mean when I say there's scum and their swine. That's
what they do. They do character assassination, they're smear merchants,
and honestly, that's why we can't have you know, look,
I don't want to get into the whole Tucker Carlson
Mark Levin debate, but I mean, it's like a bunch
of children, like we can't have an adult rational discussion
(01:20):
without vicious smears and vicious attacks and vicious name calling.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Well, Jeff, you're completely right, and that's the kind of
behavior that we have consistently bashed the left for. We
don't want to see it on the right. And one
of the things that I want to see is maga
behaving respectfully to one another. This is a very important debate,
and think about it. Think how united we all are
(01:47):
truly at this moment in this sense, we all now
support this remarkable moment in history that Israel is bombing around.
I mean, this is overall there's agreement on that that
Israel should bomb Iran, and that the Mullas shouldn't have
the bomb, that they ultimately will have it, and that
(02:10):
the time for diplomacy is over. I mean, for the
most part, there's unanimity on that. So what's the discussion
now whether or not we as Americans should get involved
and to what extent is our involvement. But think how
far we've come. Think about the Biden years where Biden
didn't give Israel enough support, and now because Trump is there,
(02:31):
Israel has the support that it needs to conduct what
has been a miraculous campaign so far. Look at that
they have control over the skies of Iran. Do you
know what an achievement that is. I am blown away
by Bibi Netanyahu. He has been magnificent. The Israeli troops
(02:54):
and the intelligence has been extraordinary. What a terrific moment.
And if this is not the time to parl petty
insults at one another, We're on the cusp of history
right now. Trump has to make a momentous decision, and
he has to make it by also keeping his movement intact,
because we have more than just one thing to achieve.
(03:16):
But Jeff, make no mistake about it. I believe that
Trump was spared that bullet hitting him in Butler, Pennsylvania,
so he could be here at this moment to strongly
support Israel in its campaign to rid the world of
this menace of a possible nuclear bomb in the region
(03:37):
that has been held over the head of the Israeli
state for decades and really the head of the world.
This is a key moment for Donald Trump. He has
an important decision to make and MAGA has to remain
united as we go forward.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Well, Grace let me ask you as literally as I'm
talking to you. The Middle East now is on edge.
We are sending in massive navy assets into the region.
Trump is now seriously weighing whether the United States should
now enter the fight between Israel and Iran. If you
(04:12):
were advising him right now, if you were in a
situation room, what would you tell the president to do?
Should he bomb Iran or stay out?
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Jeff, I firmly believe he campaigned on putting America first,
and right now simply by giving Israel the support that
he's giving, the moral support, all the backing that he's
giving is enough. We should not get involved any further
than the involvement that we have so far. He did
(04:44):
promise to end endless wars, and much of MAGA wants
him to. You know, it's going to hold him to that,
So what he needs to do. In my view, though,
I would go a little bit further than you. I
would not even give those bunker buster bombers. I wouldn't
give it. Israel is doing a phenomenal job, and I
thought that up to basically yesterday, the two of them
(05:05):
together were awesome. So Trump was playing the good cop.
Netan Yahoo was the bad cop, and that's how you
achieve big things in world history. So keep American fingerprints
and involvement out. The Israelis do not need us meddling.
Let them do it for themselves. And one of the
things we've learned, when individuals do things for themselves, whether
(05:29):
it is human beings in the United States, citizens or nations,
those results tend to be lasting. Whenever somebody tries to
do something for somebody else, it's always a short term
band aid kind of a solution. Let nations do things
for themselves. The Israelis are brilliant at defending themselves. Let
(05:49):
them continue to do so, and let the Iranian people
rise up and overthrow this barbaric, oppressive, and disgusting regime.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Great. There's a lot of debate now in Congress and
around the country that if I underline the word if,
because no decision, final decision has been made, But if
Trump decides we are going to go in and we
are going to strike Iran and join Israel in this
massive campaign against the Mulla's military campaign, that there should
(06:22):
be a vote in Congress that Congress must weigh in,
Congress must give its approval. Where do you stand.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
On that I do think so, Jeff, because I want
to see everybody on the record, because there's going to
be consequences if we do get involved any further. There's
going to be consequences. And those who have rushed American
boys and women, you know, men and women into war,
I want them ultimately, ultimately to be held accountable for
that decision and that vote. So I do think that
(06:54):
we should do that, and that's what we used to do.
Let's hold our presidents accountable, and let's hold every single
member of Congress accountable when we make such a huge decision.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Now I'm just curious, Grace, when you look now at
the situation and the tensions are very, very very high.
My fear and the fear of many in the audience,
is that the Deep State in particular could now use
this as a false flag. In other words, if they
(07:27):
want to drag Trump into this war in Iran, they
could set up an assassination attempt on Trump. This is
openly I mean, people are worried about this. Trump supporters are,
and this way enrage MAGA and dragoon the country into
this war against Iran. The globalists know this, The Deep
(07:49):
States knows this that if we get involved in a
full fledged war, this will this will shatter and break
Trump's presidency. Do we have to look out for a
potential false flag assassination attempt on the president to lure
US now into a war against Iran.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Well, Jeff, that's one of many, many possibilities. But I
think that Donald Trump and MAGA, they're wise to these tactics. Now.
I'm not so much concerned about that. What I am
concerned about is that Trump might be persuaded by the argument,
coming even from today's editorial in the Wall Street Journal,
that if we provide the adequate armaments, we're going to
(08:32):
end this conflict sooner. That's the argument that they're using.
I'm concerned that he's going to be roped in simply
by the arguments that this is a legacy making moment
for him, that he's going to solve this problem for
all time. All these grandiose visions that I know really
appeal to him. Instead, what he has to recognize is
(08:55):
return to what he did during his first term. Just
provide peace for the next few years, keep us out
of war for the next few years. Don't get roped
into these grandiose visions. I opposed him. When he talked
about Panama, I didn't like what he was saying about
Canada and the fifty first State. I hated when he
went on about Greenland. I just want him to do
(09:18):
what he did during the first term. Just deliver peace
for four years and focus on what you promised. This
is what we voted for you to do. We voted
for you to keep your head cool when there is
a war frenzy. It's easy to say no wars when
there's no war frenzy. This is the moment that I
want to see that spine of steel from Donald Trump,
(09:41):
and I want him to keep his promise, keep his
head straight, give us peace for four years. That is
an example that can go forward in the next four years,
in the next four years by other leaders. But don't
get swayed by grandiose visions of prominent solution solving. This
is what I've seen creeping in the Trump administration. He
(10:02):
wants like permanent solutions. That is like an ideology that
is very destructive. All you can ever achieve is small,
practical wins and do that every single day, and after
four years you've changed the country. But when you go
for the big, grand wins. You really court disaster because
(10:22):
you are you're sailing next to hubris. You know you're
sailing with hubris instead of with humility. And we need
our leaders to remain humble and wise in every decision
that they make.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Grace, We've got literally one minute left, so I need
you to be very concise and very tight. What's your
prediction Trump's going to make a decision next twenty four
forty eight hours. Will he take us to war or
will he keep us out?
Speaker 3 (10:51):
I'm just concerned. The last series of posts on Truth
Social I really dislike them. I dislike that he's using
the word we. I dislike that he's saying unconditional surrender.
I dislike the tone. I dislike the direction that he's
going in. I wish he would just return to the
day before. I think that's the path that he should take.
(11:13):
And I hope that he listens to me and you
and many other people who are telling him to stick
to his own his own initial instincts and his promises.
And I'm just hoping for that. I'm seeing a dangerous
trend in these.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Posts, though, doctor Grace, putting liberals in their place. Grace
Voto Jeff doesn't get a day off.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
This request came from his wife. The Kuner Report weekend
edition on the Boys of Boston WRKO
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