Are You Addicted to Your Cell Phone?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, I'm looking at the pole results
so far of the Kooner Country Pole Question of the Day,
and it's very interesting. So let me ask you. It
is the Kooner Country Pole Question of the Day. It's

(00:20):
been up now for about half an hour, sponsored by
Marios Marios Quality Roofing, Siding and Windows. Who abuses cell phones?
More kids? Or their parents? Let me ask you, all

(00:42):
of you, who do you think abuses their cell phones
more kids or their parents? A? Kids? B parents. I personally,
if I was to vote in this, I'd probably vote A.
I'd vote for kids. But most of you disagree. So far,

(01:05):
it is fifty five percent of you say parents and
forty five percent of you say kids. So so far
it's a slight majority. But Kooner Country is saying almost
like blame the parents more than the kids. They're almost
they're more hooked on the phones than the kids are,

(01:25):
and obviously the kids are learning it from the parents.
Very interesting anyway, So Mike I asked Mike. I said, Mike,
what do you think kids are? Parents? And now he
was with me, he said kids, But maybe you know
something we don't, So let me ask all of you
again who abuses cell phones more a kids be their parents.

(01:49):
You can vote on our web page wrko dot com
slash cooner wrko dot com slash cooner. Kuh And is
in national Er. You can also vote via x and yep.
I was active last night on x my handle. There
all one word at the cooner report. At the cooner report,

(02:14):
kuh And as in national Er. K Train in Malden,
thanks for holding K train.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
And welcome, good morning COONa, Hi K Train. You know
I wish I heard the story I'm about to tell you.
When my kids were Ava's age. When I it was
twelve years ago, and they were the last ones in
their school eighth grade and sixth grade. Everyone knew they
did not have a cell phone. That is true if

(02:44):
your daughter doesn't. If someone doesn't have a cell phone,
every child in the school knew. And I said, I
pick you up from school and I drop you off,
and everyone's got a phone. You don't need one. But
one daughter was going to high school and I said
it's time to get them phone. And what I've noticed
over the years, and when I handed it to them,
I told them don't do anything on this phone you

(03:07):
don't want the world to see. I think that's good advice.
And there has to be boundaries set up for dinner
when they walk in the door from school. And I
cliche because I noticed the thing about the pop culture
where when we were thirteen years old, we thought we
knew everything. Could you imagine if you had a device

(03:27):
in your phone in your hand back then? That actually
nurtured that thought process. So we're dealing with a pop
culture with no respect because they don't need the information
from the elders. On top of that, it develops a
phrase that my doctor asked if he could actually use
because I noticed it was developing, Tunnel comprehension. Tunnel comprehension

(03:52):
is something you're going to have to deal with with
your kids. There's so much information will come out of
that phone and answer and try to have boundaries dinner.
It never let them go to bed with it. I
wish I knew that back then. What do you think?

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Okay, train, Look, you're making a lot of sense to me,
and we limit just I mean, Grace is the one
that really, you know, imposes these policies. I agree with her,
but she's the one that drops the hammer. As they say,
Ashton is limited on his cell phone use. I think
it's an hour. He's got one hour a day, that's it.

(04:28):
And if we do get ava phone, it's going to
have a lot of parental controls. Like with Ashton, it's
going to be limited with time. You know time limits.
And no, you can't use it at dinner, you can't
use it at bed, absolutely not when you go to sleep.
You have to put strict boundaries. You have to. But
I love your point. I think you're right. Look, I
remember thirteen fourteen fifteen. You know you're becoming a teenager.

(04:51):
You think you know everything. You're defying your parents, you're
defying authority, You're trying to forge your own identity. So
you think you're never wrong. So there's already that you
know that's already working in your system. You add these
cell phones with the TikTok and the Instagram, and you

(05:11):
know these attitudes that these these influencers have where you're
never wrong, authority is always you know wrong, you're always right.
Don't respect your parents, don't respect your elders, don't respect
your teachers, don't respect the police, don't respect anybody You're
just making it worse. And I think, k train. Look,

(05:34):
I think we as a country and as a society,
and this is not unique to America. This is all
over the world. This is a European problem. It's a
problem in Japan, in China, it doesn't matter where you go.
We as a society are becoming addicted to technology. I mean, look,
I was just thinking throughout the whole conversation today, I'm like, well, technically,

(05:58):
am I an addict? And I don't watch TikTok I'm not.
But you know, I all my news now. I'm holding
my phone as I'm talking to you, my iPhone. All
my news now comes through the iPhone. I have subscriptions
to all these different newspapers, I go to all of
these different websites. Everything is through the phone. No, it's true.

(06:21):
And I'm also on Twitter, you know. I every night,
I'm you know, I'm commenting, I'm you know, writing something,
I'm pontificating on some issue whatever. But when I think
about it, my eye is all My eyes are always
in front of a screen, whether it's my phone, or
it's my computer, or it's my iPad, or it's my
laptop or whatever. It may be. Now, I'm not playing games.

(06:45):
I'm not playing video games. I'm not on Instagram, I'm
not doing selfies, I'm not on TikTok. I mean, I'm
always kind of show prepping. But just the way my
brain is now wired, you know, I just oh, okay,
well let me check my phone. Well why do I
got to keep checking my phone? Well? I got to
look at the latest updates? Well, is they're breaking news?

(07:07):
Well why can't you wait safe for five o'clock and
then show prep for three hours or four? No, I'm
always checking, always checking, always reading non stop all day,
all day. Now, I don't know if that's addiction. I
don't know. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, please don't get me wrong.

(07:29):
I want to continue, obviously, to talk about and take
calls on whether cell phones should be banned bell to
bell in schools. Thirty one states either ban them completely
or have severe restrictions on them in school Massachusetts now
has a big bill that has already passed the state Senate,

(07:50):
is going to pass the state House apparently, and Heally
wants to sign it, which would effectively ban cell phones
in all public schools bell to bell from the beginning
of the day school day to the absolute end now
and there are other states that are following, so it's
almost going to be fifty states within about a year

(08:10):
year and a half. So agree, disagree, but I'm very
interested again in what's happening with this audience, Kooner country.
Regarding the poll, the pole question again is who abuses
cell phones more kids or their parents? And again you
can vote wrko dot com slash cooner or if you

(08:33):
prefer on x at the Kooner Report all one word Kuhner.
It is now fifty eight percent say parents, forty two
percent kids. There you can vote a kids be parents.

(08:54):
It was fifty five forty five what was it maybe
twenty minutes ago. And it looks like the more of
you that keep voting, more of you are saying it's
parents who are even more addicted to their phones than
the kids, who abuse the phones even more than these students,
and that ultimately maybe the problem is it's of course

(09:17):
it's with the kids, but maybe the ultimate problem is
with the parents. So let me throw this big log
on the fire. Are are people in our country, in
our society becoming too addicted to iPhones, smartphones, whatever you

(09:38):
want to call them, to this technology, and that in
a sense, now this technology is completely controlling and running
our lives in a way that wasn't even ten or
fifteen years ago. And I mentioned to you how often
now I'm on my iPhone all the time, not that
I'm actually I'm not even talking people, it's a phone.

(10:01):
But I mean I call my sister, I call my
wife obviously, Grace, the kids. Now my bunny Ashton, sorry,
I call him the bunny man. That's my nickname for him, Ashton.
He has a phone, I call him. But most of
my time on the phone is you know, reading new sites,
reading articles, my newspapers that I subscribe to, and I'm
always on my phone, always NonStop, and you know, and

(10:26):
then I'm on X later and I'm sending out tweets.
But so much of my life now revolves around my
freaking phone, which is not even that I'm talking, It's
that I'm reading and show prepping. Now, you know, I
don't know if I'm addicted. Maybe I am. I mean,
I don't know, but I want to ask you, are

(10:46):
you addicted to your phone? Or do you know? People
adults who are addicted to their phones. And let me
just make one last point, and I want to go
back to the phone lines. I've noticed this now now
it's been about ten years, it's been about a good decade.
Where Grace and I and the kids, we'll go to them,

(11:07):
we'll go to the go out to eat, we'll go
to a restaurant. Now, we never use phones when we're eating,
whether at home or out, you know, at a restaurant
eating out, we always say, put the phones away. I
want to talk to you, I want to see you.
You don't want to talk or whatever, fine, Mommy and
I will talk, as I tell him, Grace and I

(11:27):
will talk, and the two of you can just listen.
So you know, at the dinner table eating out, no
phones ever, ever, ever. But I can't tell you how
many times I've gone to a restaurant and it's actually
very sad. You know, you'll see a mother and a father,
let's say two kids. Every single one of them is

(11:48):
on the phone. So here they are having a meal
as a family. The father's looking at his phone, the
mom's looking at her phone. The kids doesn't matter what
their age is, ten, well, fourteen, eight, doesn't matter. They're
all on their phones and not a single word is said.
They don't even look at each other in the face. Now,

(12:10):
I've noticed this even when I go on vacation, say
you stay at a hotel or you know, buy the
pool or whatever, they'll be a fan. Again. When we
go on vacation, all phones. No, I don't want to.
I'm there to relax. I'm not there to show prep.
I'm not there to follow the news. I leave my
phone in my luggage and the kids are not allowed
to bring their phones. Okay, it's time. It's family time.

(12:32):
We're gonna hang out together. We're gonna eat together, We're
gonna go in the pool together, We're gonna whatever. We're
gonna be together. But I can't tell you how many
times I'm say, by the pool with Grace and the kids,
and I look around and the father's on a you know,
sitting on a bench or whatever, sitting on a chair,
a lawn chair, whatever, and is on the phone. The

(12:55):
mother on the phone, the kids on the phone, or
they're at the beach. They're all on the phone. And
so there they are. It's beautiful, it's sunny, beautiful water,
and they're just staring at that screen, and I don't
mean they're staring at it for five minutes, hours and
hours and hours and hours. And then you see them
again later at dinner and the same thing. They're eating

(13:17):
and they're all staring at the phone. And then you
see them after dinner and they're like they're walking and
they're staring at the phone at the same time. Honestly,
I'm like, don't aren't you going to run into the wall?
Aren't you gonna You're not, You're not You're not seeing
where you're going? Yeah, or yeah. Maybe I'm just jealous
that I can't do that, Mike. I don't have that talent.

(13:38):
But it's just I'm like, they are glued to those phones.
It's morning tonight. Even they can't vacation without it, they
can't eat without it. It's almost like they can't function
without it. Anyway, agree, disagree Martha in Methuen. Thanks for
holding Martha, and welcome.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
Hi Jeff.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
How are you very good? How are you, Martha?

Speaker 3 (14:05):
I'm very good, and I love Mike. I just wanted
to get down in their suit. I just think he's
like magnificent as well as you are. Well, Jeff, listen,
I agree one thousand percent, as you would say that
our kids are definitely not learning to their potential because
of the cell phones, and they're socially awkward and what

(14:27):
have you. However, I feel that the start of the
school shootings across this country have really changed everything in
this regard. Now, I'm seventy and I know you're much
younger than me, but when we were kids, sure we
ran around. We never had cell phones. I had to
be home before the light came on on the post

(14:50):
outside the house, and that was not the third bump up,
But as soon as I started to dive, we had
to get home. And you know, we were all the
better for it. Honestly, when we look back, all the
way in life, socially, academically and everything. But yet we
weren't afraid to go to school.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Ja right.

Speaker 3 (15:08):
We might have been afraid of a couple of bullies
here and there, and you know that was a little
bit of a problem, but we weren't worried, and our
parents weren't worried about us not coming home. I happened
to run up to the school because of a shooting.
I just feel, you know, I believe me. I wish
there was no technology at all. The kids would be
much better off one thousand percent, all of us probably

(15:30):
would be. But you know, but I feel too like
if that notice ever came out. I'm a grandmother, if
a notice ever came out that everything passes with that
bill and the kids from Bell to Bell are not
going to have that cell phone. I can almost feel
for myself as a grandmother, immediate anxiety about the shootings,
possible shootings, or an emergency that I'd be in Boston

(15:53):
and I can't get home, you know what I mean,
Or they can't reach me, or God forbid, something happen
to one of them and they have to live with both.
They had a phone, maybe they could have called me.
I'll let the call is jump in here to Jeff.
You always have great shows. But I just wanted to
chime in on the Martha.

Speaker 1 (16:08):
Look, I'm with you, that's honestly, That's what I'm telling you.
Is what I told my wonderful wife last night over dinner.
I said, Look, it's a it's a different age we
live in now. I said, I hear what you're saying.
You're making excellent points. She is, she does, she is,
she's making great points. I said, Look, I live with
the fear of school shootings every day. I do. I'm sorry,

(16:31):
and that's a big reason why I want to give
Ava a phone, I mean a cell phone, and god forbid,
if something happens, I want her to be able to
call nine one one, call the police, call me, because
I don't feel safe with schools anymore.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
Boy, Mike, you're really having fun with today's show. Let
me tell you the music all all show. Uh, I'm
one call away six one seven two.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Six six sixty eight sixty eight eight forty nine. Here
on the grain, Wrko, Jeff Cooner, Boston's Bulldozer. Okay, let's
put let's let it all hang out. As they say,
Should we ban cell phones from schools? Number one? But
number two even more, maybe even a bigger topic. Are

(17:16):
we now too addicted as a country, as a society
to cell phones, especially iPhones? Smartphones? Are they now effectively
running and controlling our lives and in particular in your life?
Do you feel like you're always on that device? Because honestly,

(17:37):
as you know, as I was telling Mike, I go,
I think ninety five percent of my time with my iPhone,
I'm not even talking to anybody. It's just me, you know,
reading this story, tracking down that article, looking at this clip. Well,
you know whatever, it's it's it's NonStop show prepping now.

(17:57):
You know, I remember even ten fifteen years ago. You know,
you read the papers in the morning, maybe you print
stuff off the computer, say off of the Drudge Report,
or you know whatever, and you show prep at night
and then you know you're pretty much ready. Oh now
it's twenty four to seven Texas redistricting. Hmmm? Did the
House pass it? Did the state out which, by the way,

(18:19):
they did. Did the State House pass it? Okay, Like
I got to keep following it all day long, all
day long. So it's like I'm eating and like I'm
already twitching, Like let me look at my phone, Like,
look at Texas redistricting. You can look at it at
five in the afternoon. You don't have to know now

(18:39):
at one o'clock. I'm just giving you a quick example.
This happened to me yesterday. I'm like, did they pass it?

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Did they? You know? You can't wait three four hours?
And I'm telling you it's it's leading to a change,
Like just personally, everything's got to be now, Like I'm
noticing myself, I get more in pain. Now everything's got
to be now, you know whatever I need to know? Now,
give me my information now? Why should I wait? I

(19:06):
want it now? So let me ask you. Are we
becoming addicted now to phones and to technology? Steve in Leminster,
Thanks for holding Steve, and welcome, Hi.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
Jeff, good morning, Thank you for taking my call, my
pleasure time long time. You know, listen, earn the first
time call it.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Welcome, Welcome Steve.

Speaker 4 (19:29):
And I've been a teacher for over twenty five years
in the public school system here in Massachusetts. I think
you can actually have both things. Like you were talking about,
you could use your phone but understand the realm of
what you're using it in. For example, like you just mentioned,
you're prepping for your show. But I'm sure if you

(19:51):
were at a theater or you were at a recital
that your kids have done are doing, they would make
a statement, please to put away your phone until after
the show. You would do that. So there's appropriate use
of technology. The problem that I've seen in the classroom
is that it's been a slow decay of the teacher
authority in the classroom, and it's a leadership issue. As

(20:13):
a teacher, we are the leaders of the classroom. We
set the model, we showed the example, We tell the
kids what's expected, and we follow the same rules at Besides,
in the classroom, I'm trying to implement for the students.
So you have to have the moral authority. But when
the students cross that line, they take their phone out

(20:36):
and you go to report to the office, you don't
get the backing that you used to get. And that's
a leadership issue. So they don't want to address that.
And I think that your topic of the show is excellent,
Like you said, a thousand percent in agreement on this
with you, and another log on the fire would be,
let's examine the whole say, decision making process of each

(20:58):
of the school districts. Of times the school committee has
to pass these policies. Don't know what they don't know,
so they don't want to hear from the teachers who've
been experienced there because they want to go to suppress
what they have to say, and they put people on
there that they know that they can go to control.
They don't want to speak the truth. They don't want

(21:18):
the Josh Hollys and the Donald Trump's in these schools
to raise these issues, and they go to suppress you,
and if you go to bring it up, you get
written up, you get slowly undermined, and then all of
a sudden, now you're on the target. So that's that's
how I see it, that you can actually, if it

(21:38):
was done the right way and you had the backing
from the administration, you could actually have these phones in
the classroom with the teachers being able to go to
control that and to montag. But unfortunately that that's not
the case, and a lot of times the administration they
don't really have the teaching experience that they used to
have in tend to fifteen years in the classroom before

(22:00):
they became in a ministrata.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
Oh you're making great points, Steve. Honestly, you're making outstanding points, Steve. Look,
all I can do is literally just piggyback off of
what you're saying, because I agree with everything you said. Look,
I've noticed this, I've noticed it, and I've noticed it
now over a good twenty twenty five years. The erosion
as you put it, and I thought was well phrased,
the erosion of teacher authority, not just in the classroom.

(22:28):
You know, you said the teacher is the leader in
the classroom, the authority, the moral authority in the classroom. Yes,
but I remember growing up, and I'm just telling you
historically as an historian. I'm telling all of you teachers
were pillars of the community. Look for I remember growing
up from my father, my grandfather, being a teacher was

(22:51):
a very respected job and a very respected calling. I mean,
they had tremendous respect for teachers. First of all, I
think teachers are underpaid. I think the very good teachers
in particular, are grossly underpaid. I don't think we value
teachers enough. That's number one. Number two again, I'll go

(23:13):
back to one of the callers. I could have been Maggie,
but please, there were so many good callers. The names
kind of, you know, mesh in my mind. But when
she you know, when she said, you know, I tell
a student, you're on the phone. You're interrupting the class.
You're not learning, you're interrupting, you're distracting fellow students. Give

(23:35):
me the phone, and the student says to the teacher,
you don't pay my bills. I'm sorry, are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (23:48):
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
I would as a child, as in high school, okay,
I'd be like, my father's gonna kill me the moment
this teacher or the principal calls, I'm telling you I'm
in big trouble. Like you just wouldn't hear of something
like that. I can't tell you how many emails, text
messages I get from teachers. Jeff, we get assaulted and
we can't do a thing. We get spit on. We

(24:12):
can't do a thing. You should see how they swear
at us, the obscenities, the profanity, the disrespect. We can't
do a thing. And then the most shocking part of
it all is when we call the parents. The parents
are like, what, you'll leave my Jimmy alone or you
live my Jenny alone, Like it's not Jenny's fault, it's
your fault. And so it's getting to the point. And

(24:35):
by the way, it's not just teachers, it's cops. Police
officers much more disrespected now, especially after Black Lives Matter
and the summer of twenty twenty, the George Floyd riots.
The way the police now are disrespected and vilified, it
is disgusting. I could go on the way parental authority

(24:56):
is undermined and disrespected. The way I'm sorry, sorry. The
way I see children talk to their parents and their
grandparents and their aunts and uncles. Look, you know me,
I'm a softie when it comes to, you know, corporal punishment.
I can count on my hand a number of times
I spank my kids. But I swear to you I

(25:16):
listen to some of these kids, the way they I'm
talking ten, eleven, twelve years old, The way they're mouthing
off at the mother or the father.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
Here.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
Just yesterday, I took Aba to the dentist. Okay, she
got her braces removed, and she could have been more
than this girl couldn't have been more than twelve years old.
And she the way she's dressed, Like her shoulder is
completely exposed. You can the belly what belly button it's
I mean, it's it's it's right up to her rib cage.

(25:47):
I mean she's dressed. I just can't believe the way
she's dressed. Okay, but let that go. And the way
she's talking to her dad. You know, he was mentioning
it's nothing to do with the dentist, but something about
you know, I need you to help your mother with
this or and this is her to the father. Quote
you're I can't say it on the air. You're not

(26:08):
gonna effing tell me what to do. I'm not in
the effing mood. She can do it herself. Bang, I swear,
bang right in the back of the head. Bang. I
mean that I would talk to my mother or my
father like that that any of my friends. Now, again,

(26:30):
this is not you know Buck and my DRG. No,
this is civilized society. They're becoming animals. They're coddled, they're narcissistic,
they're self absorbed. They have no respect for other people,

(26:52):
for their parents, for authority, for anyone. And this they're
coming down the pipeline, like you know, they're gonna be
running the country soon. Like you have to understand our
country is going to be in their hands now. If
she's talking to her father at twelve like this and
about her mother like this and this, apparently you know,

(27:13):
they look very middle class to me. I mean it's
my area. Uh you know, the guy came in in
a nice car. He's very nice father, but he had
no authority, no discipline over it. He's just taking it.
So sorry, Steve, I don't mean to, you know, get
on a little bit of a tangent. But what I'm

(27:33):
saying is it's obvious there's a breakdown in authority. We're
seeing it across the board, and so to me, we
don't value teachers enough. Now, a teacher has a right
to run a classroom in which there's no disorder, in

(27:55):
which the parents are there to back the teacher, and
in which that stududents are there to learn. And you
can't learn if all they're doing is on their own
stupid device, playing video games, or talking to people, or
texting to people, or they're disrespecting the teacher. Because you see,
there are students that do want to learn. So what

(28:17):
about the students that want to learn? Why should they
be punished because of these jerks? And then just to
end with this, Steve, this is the part I just
that blows my mind. The parents are calling the students
their kids in the classroom. What are we going to

(28:38):
have for dinner tonight? When do you want to meet?
When would you like me to pick you up? What
would you like for dinner? That's another thing, you know,
the mother to the parents out there, you're the boss.
This is not a democracy. This is the thing that's
changed in the last thirty years. I'm telling you everybody

(29:00):
what he thinks. Now, a family's a democracy. No, the
kids don't get a voot because if my kids, I'm
telling you, all my kids want to do is eat
mac and cheese. And I keep telling them, I'm not
gonna pump you up with carbs. Like you're gonna get fruits,
you're gonna get vegetables, you're gonna get protein. No, you're
gonna have a healthy, balanced meal. You don't like it, well,

(29:22):
when you're older, do what you want. You want to
trush yourself, trush yourself, but that's not how I'm raising you.
So you don't dictate what we eat.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yes, once a week we go out for junk food.
I let the kids decide where we want to go.
But the other is six days and two meals. It's
what me and most importantly Grace Mommy says we're gonna
eat now. And this is our policy. The food is
on the table, eat now. If you don't want to eat,

(29:53):
you're gonna be a spoiled bread no problem, no dinner,
go to bed, go to your room, go to bed,
no dinner. But it's just it's incredible, everybody, they're just
catering to these kids. They dictate the menu, they dictate
the vacation, they dictate everything. And now they come into
the classroom because they're all entitled, they're all narcissistic. If

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they don't respect their Parentsteve, they're not going to respect you.
Sorry to break the news to you. And so this
is the problem. And I can't tell you how many
times and again this is not some I don't know,
inner city slum where you're saying, wow, the gangs and
the drugs, and these are suburbs, middle, upper middle class neighborhoods.

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Ten eleven, twelve years old. Teachers are telling me. The
kids come in and tell the teachers and the principle
to their face, f off, literally, f you f off,
suspended on the spot, you do it a second time,
expelled by that's it, that's it. And you call the

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parents in and usually, you know, if you have a
half decent parent, you're like, what did my child say
to you? What?

Speaker 4 (31:12):
No?

Speaker 1 (31:12):
No, no, no, this will never happen again, trust me. Instead, no,
the teacher is the bad guy or the bad girl.
The principle is the one that's to blame. How you know, well,
so on everybody swears so on it's gonna go on
my child's a recurrent. It should go on your child's record.

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You're raising a monster. Frankly, honestly, you're raising a savage.
We are raising savages. Again, not all kids, of course,
but many of them. It's a freaking zoo in many
of these schools. And then these idiot liberals their answer
is pour more money, pour more money. Hey, you can
spend fifty thousand dollars per student with these savages. It's

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not going to make a difference. Yes, So the answer
is not more money. The answer is restore authority and
power to the teachers, to the principles, to the school boards.
Run a school like a freaking school, and the parents
have to be told, look, I'm sorry, we're not running

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a daycare center for your child. Schools now they're daycare centers, like,
We're not just here to hold your child for six
hours and let them run wild. It's a school now. Ultimately,
last point, because I want to go back to Steve.
A good education system is necessary for two reasons. Number one,

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it's for the literally, this is the one time for
the children. It is you can't function in life if
you can't read, if you can't write, if you can't think,
if you can't do basic mathematics, if you don't know
basic science, basic geography, civics, history, you're not a citizen.
You can't function. I mean this is for your life,

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to lead a fulfilling life. And number two, as a country,
we can't survive having a population of idiots and absolute imbeciles.
We just we can't. Now, we import people and college
and graduate school, and that's what we're trying to do

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to make up for our deficiencies in our education system.
So what are we gonna do hand our country over
to foreigners? So no, this for me is a national crisis,
and it starts with the teacher student relationship. Like parenting.
You're the boss. I always tell my kids this. It's

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a dictatorship, a benelevent benevolent dictatorship. Okay, I'm not you know,
I'm not here to you know, throw you guys in
a gulag. It's you know, I'm not going to stand
here and abuse you kids, obviously, but it sits now.
You're here to follow the law. Mommy and daddy are
the law in no igh home. It's mommy. Mommy's not happy.

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I'm not happy as I tell them. And if I'm
not happy, boy, it's not good for you. There has
to be a clear hierarchy and a clear chain of command.
Now that doesn't mean you don't love your children. It's
the opposite. It means you love your children. You don't
want them to be spoiled. You spoil your child, You've
ruined your child, and you've ruined their life. Now, I'm

(34:34):
telling you, we're starting to see it. Now. You see
it in Generation millennials. Yeah, it was bad. But Generation
Z they're useless again, not all, but many of them.
They're useless. Here latest study, a majority of Gen Z,
now these are people in their twenties almost thirty years old,

(34:57):
would rather live alone then get married. Studying you study
out they would rather listen to this. A majority now
would rather live alone then get married, have a relationship,

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live with somebody, even if it's outside marriage. Just be
with somebody, like in a permanent relationship. Why they don't
want to share. They want everything their way. Having someone
else in an apartment, in a home, it's too inconvenient.
They want to live alone. So they're never going to

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have children, They're never going to have a relationship like
I'm looking at this like, don't you want to fall
in love? I mean, even if it goes sour, at
least you fall in love. I don't. Don't you want
to get married? Like I mean, do you want to
just be alone the rest of your life? Yep, that's

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what you're wearing. You think you're doing your child a favor.
And we're starting to live with the consequences of this.
They can't work, they can't interact in the workplace, they
can't settle down, they can't get married, they can't have relationships,
they can't have kids, they can barely socially interact. The

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mental health crisis, their mental health issues. Never as a
generation suffer this kind of what do you want? Depression,
mental illness, anxiety. I mean, it's a screwed up generation again,
not all well, what do you want? At ten years old,

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they're telling the teacher to f off. At ten years old,
they're literally telling their mother and father f off because
the father asked a girl to do a chore. So no,
you have to restore the teacher student relationship. And like
a parental like a parent child relationship, you're the boss.

(37:08):
What you say goes, and they're there to listen and
obey you, not the other way around. Steve. Final word
to you, Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (37:22):
Wrong? Jeff, You're one thousand percent right, I say even
ten thousand okay. And the thing is is that what
you raised today has done more to help education than
any workshop PD that we have, Okay. In my opinion,
it's all about self interest and self preservation. For a
lot of the school districts, they don't want the numbers

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out there that there are so many kids that may
be disruptive and so on. Because kids come from the home.
They come to us for six and a half hours
to seven hours, eight hours, nine hours if they play
sports and do activities after school, and they go back
to the home and they come back again. So what
we do in the school has to be supportive by
the home. And I agree with you about that absolutely.

(38:06):
The thing is is that over the years it's been
erodent and it needs to be restored back and the
only way to do that is shows like yours to
bring these topics up. And for again, it comes down
to the leadership and the district level with COMPNY members
a lot of them while they come from other industries

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and other businesses and so on. But they not from
the educational field necessarily. And the bottom line is that
they don't know. If they don't know, they set policies,
they hire people to then hire us in the schools,
and it's just a bed that situation that happens because
there's no consistency.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
While you're dead on, Steve, you're out. As I like
to say, you're one thousand percent correct, Steve, very important call,
Thank you very much.