Death Penalty Charges Filed

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, Kooner country. Okay, my friends, very dramatic developments
in the last twenty four hours in the regarding the
assassination of Charlie Kirk, and in particular the Utah County
Attorney Jeffrey Gray. Goes by. Jeff has come out yesterday

(00:23):
with the seven charges that were filed against I'll just
say his name once and then I don't want to
repeat it. Tyler Robinson, the twenty two year old gay
man who is now accused formally of murdering Charlie Kirk.
He was the alleged assassin who ruthlessly killed and took

(00:48):
down one of this country's leading conservative icons and civil
rights leaders, and he made his first court appearance yesterday. Virtually,
he is charged with seven counts. The most important of
the seven is aggravated murder, which in Utah carries the

(01:09):
potential for the death penalty, either by lethal injection or
by firing squad. Listen now to US County Attorney Jeff
Gray saying, I am putting the court on notice. We
are making an official filing. We will be seeking the

(01:30):
death penalty. Roll cut six Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Also, following the press conference, I am filing a notice
of intent to seek the death penalty. I do not
take this decision lightly, and it is a decision I
have made independently as County Attorney, based solely on the
available evidence and circumstances and nature of the crime. As

(02:00):
we are seeking the death penalty, the defendant will continue
to be held without bell in the Utah County Jail.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
Now, I am all for the death penalty in this case.
As I said almost from the beginning, this is such
a heinous crime. This was a crime against the conscience
of our country. This was a crime against our constitution.
This was a crime against the bedrock principles of freedom

(02:28):
of speech that are sacred to our way of life.
And of course, it was a crime against an innocent man,
a father, a husband, a friend, a son, who literally
was gunned down simply because he wanted to have an open, peaceful,

(02:54):
vigorous exchange of ideas on a college campus. He was
killed his opinions and the fact that he was effective
in delivering his opinions. I cannot think of anything more
heinous or frankly, more demonic than that. So to me,
this shooter clearly deserves the death penalty, just very very

(03:19):
quickly these are the seven counts that now he has
been charged with, or seven charges count one as I said,
and that's the most important. That is aggravated murder. It
is a capital offense. There is felony reckless discharge of
a firearm causing bodily injury. There is the felony obstruction

(03:42):
of justice for having hidden the firearm, felony obstruction of
justice for discarding his clothing that he wore during the shooting.
There is witness tampering and I'm going to get to
this very soon, for asking his lover, his living lover
and boyfriend and Furry to delete incriminating text messages. There

(04:05):
is witness tampering for asking his transgender roommate his lover
to stay silent and not speak to police. And what
is now clear is that there are now a text
exchange messages that have been released in which clearly now
Lance Twigs, the transgender boyfriend who's transitioning to a woman

(04:32):
slash Furry, clearly was told just hours after the assassination,
less than three hours that he was told by the shooter,
I did it. I did it. So that means while
the police law enforcement were on a desperate manhunt, to

(04:54):
find and track down the assassin. Lance Twigs knew the
truth the whole time and did nothing. He tried to
hide it from the public. So and the shooter said, please,
don't say anything. I'm telling you this in confidence. I
did it. Don't tell the police, don't tell anyone. So

(05:16):
they are charging him with witness tampering. Now the final
count counts seven. And now they're just piling it on.
And I'm not blaming them. When a case like this,
you just pile on as many charges. So either he
gets the death penalty or at a bare minimum, he
will be behind bars for life without ever having the

(05:37):
possibility of parole. It is the commission of a violent
defense in the presence of children or in the presence
of a child. So these are the seven counts now
that are being arrayed against the shooter. What is even
more chilling that has come out yesterday? And I have

(05:59):
to tell you it made my hair stand on the
back of my neck and simultaneously it made my stomach turn.
It was both. It's almost a form of pornography. I'm
not kidding, like ugh oh anyway, but I went through

(06:19):
the text messages back and forth. I want to read
the text message exchange. This is what they released yesterday,
so on the day of the shooting. This is apparently now,
according to law enforcement and the media, about two and
a half hours after now, Charlie Kirk is dead. The

(06:43):
shooter is in his car. He's made his getaway. He
went to bud It was a wooded area nearby. He
quickly changed clothes. There were police people everywhere. He couldn't
take his gun with him, so he left the gun
there in a wrapped in a towel. He then goes
to his car. He was hoping to come back very

(07:07):
quickly and retrieve the gun because he knows with the gun,
if they get the gun, they're probably gonna get him.
The problem is now there's bedlam and there are people everywhere,
police everywhere, and that section of Orum was thoroughly locked down.
So he then text messages his transgender boyfriend Slash Furry.

(07:32):
He is live in Lover and he says to him,
drop what you're doing. I wrote a message for you.
It is under my keyboard the lover. Then Lance Twiggs
goes underneath the keyboard, pulls out the message. The message
reads that he took out Charlie Kirk quote. I had

(07:56):
the opportunity to take out Charlie, and I took him out.
The lover then goes back on the phone, and now
they start texting each other, and here is exactly what
was said. And honestly, it's stomach turning, there's no other
way to put it, and both and twisted and bizarre

(08:19):
and chilling. So he reads the note the lance Twiggs.
The lover responds, what with like ten question marks? You're
joking right, four question marks? This is now Tyler Robinson,

(08:41):
the shooter. I am still okay, my love, but I
am stuck in orum for a little while longer yet,
shouldn't be long until I can come home, but I
gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest, I had
hoped to keep this secret till I died of age.

(09:01):
I am sorry to involve you, the lover, Twigs. You
weren't the one who did it right. Four question marks, Robinson,
I am, I'm sorry the lover. I thought they caught
the person question mark the shooter. No, they grabbed some

(09:25):
crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I
had planned to grab my rifle from my drop points
shortly after, but most of that side of town got
locked down. It's quiet, almost enough to get out, but
there's one vehicle lingering the roommate. Why question Mark the shooter?

(09:52):
Why did I do it? Question Mark the lover, Yeah,
the shooter. I had enough his hatred I e. Charlie Kirk.
Some hate can't be negotiated out. If I am able
to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence.

(10:14):
Going to attempt to retrieve it again. Hopefully they have
moved on. I haven't seen anything about them finding it.
The lover. How long have you been planning this, question
Mark the shooter a bit over a week. I believe
I can get close to it, but there is a

(10:36):
squad car parked right by it. I think they already
swept that spot, but I don't want to chance it. Now.
There's more, and I'm going to read to you the
rest of this when I come back on the other
side of the break. Six one seven two six, six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Okay, So the

(10:59):
full or at least that's what they're telling us. The
full text message exchange between the shooter and his transgender
furry lover. His living partner, Lance Twiggs, was released. I
read to you the first part where the shooter admits

(11:23):
he confesses to the crime, and it's you know, my love,
my furry, my love. I'm safe. I'm thinking about you.
I'm trying to get the gun. I'm trying to retrieve
the gun. But now it's in the bushes. There's police everywhere.
I can't seem to get to it. I don't want
to get caught. And then he says, there's this squad

(11:46):
car that keeps lingering right by that wooded area, and
I don't know if I can get it. So here
is where it picks up again. He then says, by
the way, he claims that he was planning this for
about a week. This is what he says to the
to his lover, now this is what. This is what.

(12:09):
Then the shooter continues to write to the lover, I'm
wishing I had circled back and grabbed it, meaning the rifle,
as soon as I got to my vehicle. Now this
is the part that is really bizarre. I'm worried what
my old man would do if I didn't bring back

(12:30):
Grandpa's rifle. I don't even know if it had a
serial number, but it wouldn't trace to me, I worry
about Prince. I had to leave it in a bush
where I changed outfits, didn't have the ability or time
to bring it with I think he means me, but

(12:51):
he just continues to write, I might have to abandon
it and hope they don't find Prince. How the it's
the F bomb. I can't say it. How the will
I explain losing it to my old man? So you
just killed someone literally just like two and a half
hours ago, and you're worried about how you're going to

(13:14):
explain the rifle to your father. Dude, that's the least
of your concerns as I'm reading this. But anyway, I digress.
He continues, only thing I left was the rifle wrapped
in a towel. Then he goes on, remember how I

(13:34):
was engraving bullets again the F bomb? The fing messages
are mostly a big meme, and then he talks about
some of the memes that he carved into the bullets,
and then he says, well, I guess I'm gonna have
to leave it there. In other words, I won't be
able to retrieve the gun. Then he then just like

(14:00):
you know whatever, you know ellipses like three dots. Judging
from today, I'd say Grandpa's gun does just fine. I
don't know. I think that was a two thousand dollars scope.
And then there's kind of like a crying laughing emoji

(14:22):
like ha ha ha ha the scope on this old unique,
you know, bolt action hunting rifle. It still works because
I blew his head off. Basically, I blew his head off.
I shot him in the neck. Now. He then says
to the lover, delete this exchange. My dad wants photos

(14:45):
of the rifle, he says. Grandpa wants to know who
has what. The Feds released a photo of the rifle,
and it is very unique. He is calling me right now,
meaning his father. I'm not answering. He then says, since

(15:06):
Trump got into office, my dad has been pretty die hard. Maga.
I'm gonna turn myself in willingly. One of my neighbors
here is a deputy for the sheriff. He then writes
to the lover, you are all I worry about my love.

(15:29):
The lover, I'm much more worried about you, the shooter.
Don't talk to the media police, don't take any interviews
or make any comments. If any police ask you questions,
ask for a lawyer, and stay silent. And that is

(15:52):
the full extent of the exchange that they have released. Okay,
now a couple of points. You heard it both in
the opening and now here, and I'm sure many of
you have probably read it online. Now a couple of points,
and then I want to open up the phone lines
six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.

(16:14):
My first question to all of you is, just what
do you make of the text exchange? What do you
make of this, this text exchange message, this thread? Just
what are your impressions? My impressions Number one is I

(16:35):
can't believe how twisted, sick, almost sociopathic the shooter is.
Notice there's no remorse whatsoever, none, literally none, there's no remorse.
He has just two and a half hours ago taken

(16:57):
the life of an innocent man, and he doesn't care.
There's no guilt, there's no remort, there's nothing nothing. In fact,
he's practically proud of himself. He's like, you know, it's
like and then notice I did it for you, my furry,
I did it for you, my love. So he clearly

(17:21):
did it for the roommate. I think there's no there's
no question. Now, he clearly and he says it I
killed him because Kirk allegedly was so full of hate.
You can't negotiate your way out of this. So he
admits this was a clear politically ideologically motivated killing. He's

(17:43):
obsessed over the fact that his father is not going
to get the rifle back, like, what are you twelve
years old? And notice he's embittered. He's resentful. Six one
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight is the number.

(18:03):
Mike and I were just talking about the text message
exchange and I said, you know, Mike, what did you
think of it? And he said, honestly, Jeff, it was creepy.
I mean just really creepy. And I'm like, no, I know,
you know, there's no my god, what have I done?
You know whatever. I just took someone's life, whatever any

(18:25):
sense of you know, second thoughts or doubts, I mean, whatever,
any any kind of humanity. No, it was I love you,
my furry. I did it for you, my furry, and
I'll be home soon, you know, keep dinner on this hove.
It's just it is bizarre. It is it's just hi

(18:46):
ya yai. Now what the media is trying to do.
I swear to you, they're trying now to turn this
into the second of Romeo and Juliet, you know, or
you know, the Beauty and the Beast. I guess in

(19:07):
this case, the furry and the beast. Listen, now, this
is ABC News. I mean, you want to see how
sick these people in the media are. This is ABC
News reporter Matt Gutman saying the text messages between the
shooter and his trans lover, listen, that is we're quote

(19:31):
unquote very touching. It was like it's moving. It's my god,
what a love affair. Oh my god, the love they
had for each other. Oh my god. Roll cut ten, Mike.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
We have seen an alleged murder with such specific text
messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden,
how it was placed, what was honored.

Speaker 4 (20:01):
But also it was very touching in.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
A way that I think many of us didn't expect,
a very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's
roommate and the suspect himself, with him repeatedly calling his roommate,
who was transitioning, calling him my love and I want
to protect you, my love.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
So it was this duality of someone.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Who, the attorney said, not only jeopardized the life of
Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in
front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances
of this case. And on the other hand, he was
speaking so lovingly about his partner, so very interesting, as
Pierre said, riveting press conference.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
David unbelievable. Honestly, this guy's sick. I mean, they're just
sick in general. This is I mean so oh, it
was so loving, It was so touching. Okay, first of all,
do you understand that he's confessing that he murdered Charlie
Kirk to honor his gender lover, that this was a

(21:04):
crime of pro transgenderism, that this was an ideological left
wing hate crime, And you think that's touching. Yes, I
killed a man for you, my furry. That's what I did.
I did it for you, my furry, and you this

(21:28):
is touching. This is like, my God, I look at this.
This is so and the fact that he you know,
he's calling him quote my love, and suddenly this is
like Romeo and Juliet. This is one of the great
love affairs of our life, of our time. All of
our era. I'm done, honestly, I'm done. I'm serious. I'm

(21:53):
tapped out. I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. I'm just done. Really,
I'm done the words of an evil sociopath and he's sick.
And I'm going to get to this. Clearly that Lands
Twiggs is clearly unaccomplice, and the shooter is definitely trying
to cover for his accomplice. I think there's no question.

(22:16):
And these professional liars and propagandists at ABC are trying
to make us feel sympathy for them and make it
part of some kind of a grand love story. Honest
to God, revoked their license. I'm done. I'm serious. This
is propaganda on steroids. I mean, this is beyond disgusting,

(22:38):
This is beyond shameful. This is really I mean, look,
no one's a bigger defender of the First Amendment than
Jeff Gooner, but honest to God, bring back the smith
Mund act like this is a beyond outrageous Really, Now,
look when I read the text message exchange, and I

(23:02):
read it and I reread it, and I went on
X and most of you know what I said on X,
and then I slept on it. I'm now more convinced
of what I said on X. So this to me,
this screams this was a contrived text message exchange. I'm
not saying the FBI fabricated it or manufactured it. Quite

(23:26):
the opposite. No, this really did happen. This was the
text exchange message between these two sickos. There's no question. Okay,
but you can tell, first of all, nobody really talks
like this. You know, remember they're both twenty two years old,
all right, and they're both mentally ill, and you know,

(23:49):
there's no question they're both not right in the head.
And you know they're both in many ways very immoral
and sick individuals, each in their own way. Now, no
one talks like this, And just the back and forth,

(24:09):
the way he so confesses and then lays out every
instance of the crime. It says, if he puts the
whole thing in a bow, like a package with a
bow on it, and furthermore, he's giving his lover cover

(24:29):
the whole exchange back and forth, you can see this
is what the roommate intended. He's basically saying, here's what
I think, this is what happened. I think the accomplice
his lover was an accomplice. There's no question the lover
was the accomplice. The lover knew, the lover was the
one who fed his growing hatred for Charlie Kirk. Even

(24:54):
the lover's family says he was the one that really
radicalized the shooter. He was consumed. This is the lover now,
the furry, the transgender furry, the guy who was transitioning,
That he was consumed and is consumed with hatred for
conservatives and Christians, hatred for Charlie Kirk, and that he

(25:15):
was the one that really radicalized the shooter and made
him turn on his father, on Maga, on Christians, on conservatives,
and then they developed this obsession for Charlie Kirk that
went on for months and months and months. And so
what the trands what the shooter is doing is he's
basically saying, I'm gonna fall on my sword. We're gonna

(25:39):
lay out this text message exchange in which what you
did it? Really I had no idea. And he's like,
I didn't tell you. I didn't want you to know.
In other words, you see, he's ignorant, he's innocent. He

(26:01):
had nothing to do with this. This was all me me, me, me,
So don't go after Lance, go after me and me alone.
He's covering up for the role of his boyfriend, whatever, girlfriend, boyfriend, cat, kitten,

(26:22):
whatever this guy is. Okay, that's what he's doing. I
think it's so obvious to me. And if someone's gonna
take the fall, I'm gonna take the fall. But you,
my love, my furry you, you can continue to enjoy
your life. You if I get a book deal out

(26:45):
of this, or a movie deal or whatever, we can
pay for your transition and you can become a female kitten, okay,
and you know whatever, drink milk from a saucer, whatever
you want to do. So this is all for you,
my love. I think to me, it's obvious. It's so obvious.

(27:07):
Now they were too cute by half, because what you
clearly see in the exchanges is that within three hours
of the murder, Lance Twiggs knew we have the text messages,
for God's sake, knew that Tyler Robinson was the killer,

(27:30):
that the shooter was the assassin. He confessed to it.
That means we had a man hunt for thirty hours
in which the country was desperately looking for this guy,
and he said nothing he said nothing. Now, that's substruction

(27:53):
of justice, and that's accomplice after the fact. So I
don't care how they're trying to protect this guy, this
lanch twigs. And by the way, he's engraving bullets in
the apartment and he's like, well, when I was engraving bullets,
this is why I was engraving the bullets for. And

(28:13):
this guy didn't know.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Robinson's mother explained it. Over the last year or so,
Robinson had become more political and had started to lean
more to the left, becoming more pro gay and trance
writes Oriented. She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate,
a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in

(28:40):
several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and
his father, who have very different political views.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Six point fifty on the Great Wrko Jeff Cooner Boston's
Bulldozer six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty
eight couple lines open if you want to jump on. Look.
I think, by the way, the father is a staunch
Trump supporter. I believe the mother is as well. I'm

(29:10):
not a thousand percent sure about that. They're both Republicans,
but the father in particular, is you know, a very
strong supporter and a very vocal supporter of President Trump.
And when you look at the text exchanges, okay, the
text message exchanges. To me, what is very striking is,

(29:32):
first of all, how lazy the shooter is, how idle.
He's got a lot of time on his hands. He's
just sitting around his apartment with his lover, his transgender
furry lover, and they're always having all these discussions, and
they're online and they're gaming, and he's playing video games
for six, eight, ten, twelve hours a day. He's resentful,

(29:57):
he's deeply embittered, hates his father, hates his father's political views.
It's almost as if part of the reason why he
did it part was to get back at his father.
Of course, he goes on about my love, my love,
my furry, my furry. I did it for you. I

(30:19):
did it for you, because Charlie's words are so hateful.
We can't negotiate with such hate. Now, what is to
me crystal clear is that this text message exchange puts
the final nail in the media's coffin in terms of
their narrative that we don't know the motive of the shooter.

(30:42):
They keep trying to claim this or that maybe he
was some kind of a conservative or a MAGA supporter himself.
I mean, you want to talk about hokum, You want
to talk about, you know, a disgusting pack of lies.
We have his own words, the engravings on his bullets,
we have his own confession, we have him admitting to

(31:05):
his motives. This was a pro transgender radical leftist assassination, period,
full stop. There's no debate anymore. Now, let me make
one final point, and then I want to go to
the phone lines six one seven two sixty six sixty

(31:28):
eight sixty eight is the number. This is a text
message that I got, which I think is very very interesting.
You can text the cooner man seven zero four seven
zero seven zero four seven zero. This is from nine
to one seven Jeff. The text message exchange proves more

(31:51):
than the shooter's guilt. It demonstrates the power and perniciousness
of media propaganda. The shooter is not crazy. He is
not a psychopath or a sociopath. He is fully capable
of empathy, as his words of worry and love for

(32:14):
his boyfriend show what his text prove beyond a shadow
of a doubt is how propaganda can utterly dehumanize us
such that Charlie Kirk's life and the lives of his
children are meaningless. The media did not pull the trigger,

(32:36):
but they chambered the round very well said, what to
me is striking is the utter dehumanization of Charlie Kirk.
When you read the text message he is subhuman. It notice,
as I said earlier, no remorse, no guilt, no doubt. No,

(33:02):
you just murdered someone in cold blood. It's like he
squashed an ant, you know, or an insect. He doesn't
even give any second thought to it whatsoever. And it's like, yeah,
he's just he's a fascist, he's a Nazi, he's so
full eight. You can't negotiate with this guy. Bang, shoot
him in the neck. And so what's for dinner, honey,

(33:25):
I'll retrieve the gun, and what's for dinner? My furry?
I mean that's you read this and you're like, a ya,
how do you get the brain to that point that
you are so callous and so cold blooded that this
man's life and that of his wife and children it

(33:45):
just means nothing, just absolutely nothing. That's the frightening level
of the media propaganda and the constant brainwashing and indoctrination
that now it's not just this guy. You can see
them celebrating, cheering, glorifying his actions and the murder of

(34:08):
Kirk on so many not just social media sites, but
so many democrats, so many liberals, so many leftists agree disagree.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight.
Russ in New York, Thanks for holding Ross and welcome.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Good morning, Jeff. Let me take you off speaker three points.

Speaker 1 (34:35):
If I can, yes, go ahead, Russ.

Speaker 5 (34:38):
This was scripted between the two individuals. This was very smooth,
calculated delivered. It was delivered over text because this kind
of a dialogue would sound strange if two people were
speaking these words. They wanted it memorialized. One of the

(34:58):
other things is the shooter tells his furry delete this stuff,
destroy it. What he's telling him to do is destroy
their script because this was retained, and it was retained
as evidence to separate the two and to make sure

(35:18):
that his friend is not implicated in this. This is
a conspiracy. This is not just one guy deciding to
do this. After about a week's spot he had the
means to carry out the wishes of his pal and
his other friends. I just hope it all comes out.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Russ, you are bang on. I'm telling you, you are
bang on. Look it sounds so scripted, It reads so scripted.
You know you really you took the words out of
my mouth. Look, let me tell you honestly what I
think happened. Okay, I think we're starting to get a
picture now. Now I'm going by the evidence of not
just the shooter's family, but the lover's family. Okay, lach

(35:59):
twigs his family members are saying of the two, he
hated Charlie Kirk more the lover, not the shooter, the lover,
that the lover was really obsessed with Charlie Kirk, that
the lover is the one that really hated Christians, really
hated Conservatives. By the way, that's the shooter's parents. They're Christians,

(36:23):
their conservatives. So and they said that both sides agree
that it was the lover that radicalized the shooter. So
this is what I think happened. I think the furry
lover said to him, you want to give me a gift,
You really want to make me happy. Kill Charlie Kirk.

(36:45):
You know what my one wish in life is take
him out. Okay, my love, my furry, I will do
it for you. In other words, we'll do it together.
It'll be my eternal gift to you, my love, my furry.
And then we're gonna set up this bogus text exchange

(37:06):
descriptive text exchange so that if I get caught, both
of us don't go to jail. Only I will take
the fall. Only I will go to in this case,
maybe even get the needle or the firing squad. Okay,
I the death penalty. But I'm the one that's gonna,
you know, take the fall, not you. And to me

(37:29):
this there's no way in hell that the two of
them living together, almost doing nothing all day except just
gaming and hanging out and hating Christians and hating Conservatives
and hating Charlie Kirk and hanging out with their Antifa
buddies online, their transgender Antifa as I call them trans Tifa,

(37:50):
their trans Tifa buddies online. And this guy's engraving bullets
right in front of his right in front of his lover,
and loahla, you get it. You know what no with
like you know ten question marks? What no nobody talks

(38:11):
like this. Nobody writes like this, Russ, do you think
the truth will come out that the lover the furry,
that this Lance Twigs guy, that he was clearly an accomplice.
You think we're gonna get You think that's eventually gonna

(38:32):
come out?

Speaker 4 (38:34):
It will?

Speaker 5 (38:35):
I hope it will. We always want the truth, whatever
it is, We need the truth. This is how this
country was formed and based and became the best. We
just we just need everything out there. Go to bed,
whose ever bad, they need to be held accountable. One
point I forgot to mention with you, and you you
just mentioned it. The bullets he slipped in his discussion

(38:58):
there on you know his in the text he says,
remember when I was mocking these bullets? This is it's
so obvious. I'm sure they know. Hope hopefully it gets
out there.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Russ Dinah might call thank you Russ six one seven
two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Okay, let me
ask you, the great audience of Kooner Country. The text
exchange messages. Do they sound scripted to you? Almost like
they're trying to like he's trying to give a cover
story for his lover, so he will take the fall

(39:30):
and the lover can get away Scott free. To me,
I think it's quite obvious, but I could be wrong.
I want to hear from you. That's number one. Number two.
Do you think the lover the transgender furry Lance Twiggs,
did he have four knowledge of the murder of the attack?
Do you believe he was an accomplice? And in many

(39:54):
ways was he in some sense almost the driving force?
Six one seven sixty eight sixty eight. Larry in Arkansas, Larry,
you used to be Larry from Lemonster. You're now Larry
from Arkansas. I take it you made it there safe
and sound? How are you? My friend?

Speaker 4 (40:15):
Wow? How did Jeff?

Speaker 5 (40:17):
Well? Mostly? Mostly safe?

Speaker 4 (40:19):
Sound has always been an issue? So I've seen better
scripts written by the WWE, you know, wrestling scripts. It's
it's a pathetic attempt. But what I do appreciate in
this sense is no one is actually clinging to the

(40:39):
well he acted alone lone wolf theory. They're actually showing
that they're developing that there's a group effort to do this,
and that they're taking a serious look at who funded this.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Larry, what do you make of his lover the furry?
Do you think his transgender lover? Do you think was
the script to exonerate him, to try to give him
plausible deniability so he doesn't get roped in as well.

(41:18):
And do you think he was an accomplice? Do you
think he knew? And do you think in many ways
he helped the shooter carry out his despicable assassination.

Speaker 4 (41:32):
I think he is the He's a Charlie Manson of
the group, do you know what I mean? He's he's
the planner, he's the you know, the the evil entity
behind it. But he lets other people get their hands dirty.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
Interesting, interesting, your types.

Speaker 4 (41:53):
But what amazes me is you heard family members and
friends say that you know, he grew up as a
whole family hunting, he goes off to college and how
quickly his brain was twisted to become a violent leftist.
And both still insist on sending their kids to these colleges.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Well, you know, Larry that you really put your finger
on it, like that's my that's my fear. I mean,
you know, Ashton is still in the ninth grade. I
still got three four more years obviously before you know,
we decide which college you'll go to if he wants
to go to college. But that's my big fear. I
can't tell you how many emails, how many text messages,

(42:41):
how many conversations I've had with people over the years. Jeff,
we raised our child right, our son, our daughter, whatever,
and we sent them to college, and it's like they
sent me back a different child. I can't tell you
how many times I've heard that. And it's like they
undo all the work that you do as a mother
and a father, and they truly they pervert your child.

(43:06):
They pit your child against you, and they they warp
and destroy their minds. It's it's really sickening. Really, it's
it's it's brainwashing. And so Grace and I are going
to take a very very active role in what schools
they do go to because I don't want this to

(43:26):
happen to my child. And look, there's a picture that
came out. I believe it was the New York Post,
but don't quote me on this, Larry, but it's a
picture when a little bit younger. You can see he
was in college, and it's the shooter with his father
and you can see this there. I believe they're at
a sushi restaurant and it's just the two of them.

(43:49):
They're eating and you can see the sadness in the
father's eyes. The father is a conservative, a Christian, a Mormon.
He has a Trump hat on even so you could
tell he was a staunch Trump supporter. And you can
just see the sadness in the father's eyes that the
son beside him is not the son that they raised.

(44:13):
You know, think about it. He goes to university, becomes
this flaming leftist, then he takes on a gay lover,
and then the gay lover turns out to be transgendered.
Then this transgendered person now starts transitioning and becomes a female.
And then on top of that, the apparently the son

(44:36):
had a sexual obsession, a sexual fixation with cats and kittens,
and so the lover begins to put on this costume,
this furry suit with a tail, and they would be
seen in public with him with the suit and the tail.
And so his son is now with a transgendered man

(44:58):
transitioning to a woman who now also claims to be
a cat or a kitten. And you can just see
the father is I'm losing my son, my son? Is
what's happened to my son? This is not the boy
that I raised. He's become something completely different, and I'm

(45:18):
losing him right in front of my eyes, and it's heartbreaking.
It's just heartbreaking, and everything I've been reading, the father
turned him in. The mother and the father turned him in.
The mother and the father confronted him. They were shocked,
they were horrified, heartbroken, devastated, and apparently they confronted him

(45:43):
and they said, why did you do it? Why did
you kill him? And he gave the same answer, because
Charlie Kirk is so full of hate that we can't
negotiate with people like that, And apparently his mother just
broke down and cried. The father was an utter disbelief. Basically,

(46:04):
you killed me because I'm sure everything Charlie Kirk said
the father, maybe even the mother, but definitely the father
agreed with So it's like, you hate us that much,
you're you would want you'd want to kill us, or
you know, you killed him for the same views, the
same ideas, the same opinions that I have, and we

(46:24):
have like you hate us that much and we loved you.
And by the way, family members, friends, neighbors, everybody, they said,
you couldn't have two better parents. They loved that, they
have three children, They love that boy. They said he
had a great upbringing, he played baseball, Christmas gifts, Birthday gifts. Uh,

(46:52):
they took him to church. They that he had everything.
He had everything, and the father did activities with him,
and you can see pictures of them playing, and I
mean you could see the father loves his children. It's
so obvious. And what did we do to deserve this
that you hate us that much? It's what they're going

(47:15):
through is a nightmare. Honestly. I know we're all praying
for Charlie and his wife and his two young children,
and we should, obviously, but please, I'm urging everybody keep
the parents of the shooter in mind as well. And
so they're the ones that talked him into you know,

(47:36):
they almost forced them really to surrender. And the neighbors
are saying they're all praying for the parents, saying they
did not deserve this. Larry final word to.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
You, Well, Jeff, I'm not one hundred percent, but I
believe I heard that the father admitted that once the
boy went off to college, he kind of took a
step back, can drop the ball, so to speak. He
wasn't seeing what was happening until it was too late.
So I would like to say on behalf of that father.

(48:09):
This should be a wake up call for every single parent.
Don't lose your kids to the left left in doctrination.
If you're raised right, keep raising them.

Speaker 1 (48:26):
Just because they go to college and they're eighteen nineteen
years old doesn't mean you stop loving them or parenting them.
I'm with you all the way, all the way, Larry, brilliant, call, brilliant, Larry,
God bless you. Please keep calling every week. Okay, my friend,
take care, take care, Larry. Six one seven two six
six sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Agree, disagree,

(48:50):
Carrie in West Bridgewater. Thanks for holding Carrie, and welcome.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
Good morning, Jeff, Hi carry Jeff. I'm a wait, Jeb,
I'm waiting for the first Democrat or the first media outlet.
But I repeat myself to say, no, he wasn't gay.
He was involved with a woman because trans women are women,
right right, so they can they can you know, erase

(49:20):
the trans angle from this.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Because that is such a that is such a good point, Kerry.
Please keep going, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (49:33):
I did just see a It was on twitchy. It
was one of the articles from twitchy where there's a
group called Armed gays or armed queers.

Speaker 1 (49:45):
There were not mine, yeay armed queers salt Lake City.
It's called their Armed Queer Salt Lake City. The lover
was a deep part of Armed Queer's Salt Lake City
and the shooter started to get influ by them as well.
That was one of their big online chat groups. Please
keep going, Kerrie.

Speaker 6 (50:07):
Well there's a lovely picture of the leader of this
group with Elizabeth Warren. The Democrat Party is endorsed by
and endorses this basically domestic terrorist group.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Carrie, can you do me a big favor? I saw
that story last night. Please can you hang on