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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, this is what my sister wrote in response to
Elon Some people did something Omar claiming that Somalia, I
swear to you, is better than Trump's America, one of
the poorest, most god forsaken countries on earth. This is
what my sister wrote in a private text message, Jeff.
(00:22):
If Somalia is so much better, then why doesn't she
just not go back there?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Jen?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's exactly what I'm saying. You read my mind, Jen,
So then go who's stopping you? Leave and don't let
the door hit you on the way out. And then
my sister makes a follow up point, which is also
I think dead on, Jeff. Notice that all of these
leftists think it's better everywhere else, but they remain here.
(00:53):
Why don't they all just leave because there are a
bunch of liars and hypocrites. They know, oh, it's infinitely
better here, but they gotta, you know, flop their mouth
and act all woke and you know, dump and hate
their own country. And no one does it better, frankly
than ilan Omar. So listen to her. Now they're eulogizing
(01:17):
Charlie Kirk and she goes on CNN with Caitlin Collins
another anti Trumper and listen to what elan Omar says
roll cut cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Mike, I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man
like that is my view of the words that he
has said about every single identity that I belong to.
He didn't believe that we should have equal access to anything.
He also just didn't even believe I could be smart
(01:54):
enough I could have thoughts that could be equal to
a white man. Where are we missing this conversation about
who this man was and the things that he said?
How do you not do you not find that reprehensible? Caitlin? Well,
you do you think that I don't have that?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But do you think I don't have.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The brain processing power like you or a white man? Well,
of course, I'm I think it's very clear here that
if somebody said that when you say that, that would
be reprehensible views. I think the argument that was being made. No,
but I am asking what we have heard. What I'm
asking you is what you said that You're asking you,
how could I find him reprehensible? Like that is reprehensible?
(02:31):
You said it is reprehensible yourself. That is vile, It's reprehensible,
and it is hateful.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now, the only one that's vile and evil and reprehensible
is her. It's elan Omar and throwing Kaitlyn Collins as well,
because any honest reporter would have said he never said
any of those things.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
You're lying.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Either you're just so lazy that you've been handed did
stuff from the internet and you just, like a parrot,
mindlessly repeat them.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So either you're a smear merchant and a liar okay,
and just a lazy idiot, or you are deliberately lying
and character assassinating this man. In other words, you're defaming him.
So is a door one or door two?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Either way?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And by the way, since Somalia is so much better,
how about you take door three and leave.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now. She's one of the leaders of the Democratic Party.
Elano mar Now, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You seriously and a serious question. Can you have peace
with someone like her? Can you have peace with someone
like AOC when they deliberately lie and distort and manipulate
and gaslight and insight.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And you know he deserved it, he had it coming.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Again, he never said that was a deliberate lie. It
got a Washington Post liberal editor and columnist fired from
the post, she fabricated the quote where he said that
black women don't have the same brain processing ability or
power then white women or white men.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
He never said that. That's why she got fired.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So, in other words, instead of saying, you know, all
this incitement and all this hatred that we keep peddling
it got a man killed. No, maybe we should slow down, stop, recalibrate,
pull back, restrain ourselves.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
No, they just keep on lying. They just keep pouring
gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agreed, disagree.
Brenda in Beverly. Thanks for holding Brenda, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Good morning, Jeff, and thank you for taking all of
my calls. And I've got a couple of points. Thank you.
I have a couple of points. And I'm just going
to add one little thing. I don't want to speak
too much on aoc or. I call her the chick
with the two tight hajib. Maybe she should talk to
Erica Kirk. I would like her to have a one
(05:36):
on one with Erica Kirk, which exactly is what she
said to Caitlin Collins. But I'm going to let that go.
What I wanted to share with the audience and of
you is that this has been an exhausting, like twelve
days for all of us with regards to Charlie Kirk.
And I'm trying to look at this through the lens
that this is a great opportunity despite the fact that
(05:59):
you're always going to have people in the world that
have cold hats like AOC and ilian Oma, and we
are called to pray for these people. It's very difficult.
I have my sistep to God many times, like bless
your enemies, pray for your enemies. All this is it
is not an easy walk to be a Christian. And
(06:21):
he didn't. He never said that it was going to
be easy. He said it's about eternity. It's not about
being easy. But I see Charlie Kirk's death as an
opportunity for those of us that are self professed Christians.
You know, we're unashamed Christians. We tell people that were
Christians that this is our opportunity to share God's good news.
(06:42):
And we saw that yesterday for five hours, the word
of God going all over the world. So God takes
something that was meant for harm. That's actually a quote
from Genesis. I think it's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Brenda can you just hang on as I'm up against
a hard break. Brenda in Beverly. Thanks for holding Brenda,
and welcome.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Okay, I just wanted to finish what I was saying
for you went to commercial break. I was actually in
the middle of sharing a biblical verse that I believe
that applies. It's significant to the death of Charlie Kirk.
It's in Genesis fifty twenty where God says Joseph says
to his brothers that seriously harmed him, You intended to
(07:28):
harm me, But God intended it for good to accomplish
what is now being done, the saving of many lives. Now,
we had to lose a great life in order to
save many lives. And as we could see what happened
yesterday in that phenomenal tribute and what's going on worldwide
as a result of his death, there's a lot of
(07:50):
good that is happening. Yes, Like I said before, we're
always going to have people that are stone cold hearted.
They suffer from WillFull blindiness. You understand that, Jeff and
some of these people you just unfortunately can't reach, you know,
and we're supposed to pray for them. I do want
to commend Becky from Oregon. I also wanted to quote
(08:12):
that scripture, which is significant for all of us. Forgiveness
is a really tough thing. I mean, it is a
huge battle for all of us. And on one end
of the continuum, you might have some low level offenses
that you can blow off, like you know, a family member,
now she's saying that again. Then you swing it and
then it's you know, to the horrific things that people
have to contend with, I e. Like Erica Kirk with
(08:35):
the murder of her husband, and you know the laundry
list of horrible things that go on in our world.
But we all have to do a cleanse of our
heart because we do not want to become like those
that are offending us. And like your texture, that brilliant texts,
we don't want that poison to fill us up. We do,
(08:56):
we just we don't want to do that because then
we become them. And I think it's this beauty. They
call it beauty for ashes, and I think that this
is what we perhaps are experiencing. Unfortunately, we had to
lose a great person in order to have this experience.
I believe that he's smiling as he's free, He's free.
(09:16):
We're down here contending, and you brought up a wonderful
uh an event that I saw years ago. It was
that courtroom scene. And I remember that brother's name, the
murdered brother's name. His name was Odom, and I remember
crying like, oh my, look this this man has He
(09:36):
was a young man too, if you recall. I'm like
he was. He's forgiving this woman. I had the goosebumps
even sharing that. And then of course the judge giving
the Bible, and there's huge significance for all of us
to see that. And there's and and and that is
what people saw yesterday. They and we're going to get
the hade cool. We go to get the AOC's and
I get the ilian O mos and whatnot. But many
(09:58):
people in there, there's a there's a reckoning. Uh there's
there's a something happening. It hasn't come to fruition. And
there's there's beauty in that. And it reminds me and
I remember years ago sharing this with you, and I
think you said you knew this woman because this is
where we're at as a country, Rwanda. And there's this
woman named Immaculae Ilabighisa and she was in the in
(10:21):
the in the middle of that, that whole nightmare. She
spent three months in a secret bathroom in a pastor's
home that even his wife had no knowledge of. Can
you imagine three months? And she was three months with
seven other women. This wasn't some big, glorious bathroom on
an estate. This was just some you know. You walk in,
(10:44):
there's the tub, the toilet, and the and the sink,
and seven women there. She ends up getting out. Four
members of her family were slaughtered, the hootsies and tootsies,
you know, the neighbor against neighbor. I mean, does this
sound familiar now, slaughtering these people? She starts filling up
with rage. Of course, four members of her family are dead,
(11:05):
and she has that come to Jesus. She was a Catholic.
I believe that that country was very Catholic, and so
she knew what she had to do. She goes, I
am not going to let this poison kill me. Now
on top of it, already it's already taken four members
of my family. She goes to the prison and she
(11:26):
goes not so much to confront, but to say, I
am stating the process of forgiveness because I have to,
and she looked right across from the guy. She found
out who it was. And in the book that I
have about her, it's amazing. There was deb he has
loaded a soul over to the devil. He was dead.
He's dead, He's dead. And I met that woman at
(11:48):
an event in a church and I grabbed my girlfriend
and we were sitting there and go, I want what
she has, not her materialism, not all the stuff she
lives in America. Now, I want her presence, want that
spirit of peace that she I mean when she.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Walked into the church, well you know, they know I've
seen her. No, you're right. It's it's like there's a
light on her.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And that's what I felt yesterday with Erica Kirk.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
There was like a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Spiritual, transcendental light that just emanated from her. And Immaculately
had the exact same thing. And look, people, you know
people who know Immaculate very well, and I know one
in particular who's basically best friends with her. They're telling
me what you saw in Rwanda in the nineteen nineties
(12:37):
between the Hutus and the Tutsis, which was, you know what,
over a million were slaughtered in three weeks with machetes.
They just slaughtered each other. That they're starting to see
the same thing now here, the same process of dehumanization,
the same incitement. By the way, it was all lies.
They'd go on the radio. There was more radio than
(12:59):
TV because it's very poor country, but they would go
on the radio and claim that the other side or
a prominent leader of the other side said X, Y
and Z, and he had never said that. Like literally,
they were just making stuff up. And that's what you know,
what Elanomar and AOC and what they're all doing. Oh,
you know, he supports Jim Crow, he supports slavery, like
(13:23):
you're lying through your teeth. And they did that on
purpose to whip up hatred and frenzy. So in other words,
it's okay, go ahead and kill them, because there's come,
there's subhumans come. And that's what you're starting to see
slowly here in the United States. And that's why this
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has to be called out. There has to be consequence culture,
as we're now calling it, not cancel culture. That's what
the left did. This is consequence culture. You have to
be held responsible and accountable for your your word, your deeds,
your actions, and above all, your lies, your incitement to violence,
(14:08):
violent rhetoric, and to hatred.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And that's now what Finally.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Many conservatives are starting to wake up to Brenda as always,
thank you very very much for that call, Bob in Plymouth.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I know you've been holding patiently. Bob. Thank you and welcome.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
But the problem, Jeff, I'm so glad to hear that
you're feeling better. But two things I want to bring
to your attention. Number one, the question you had earlier
in the show whether you would forgive the killer. Yes, no,
you left for the third option. Never. Never would I
(14:48):
ever forgive that guy for what he did. Never. But anyway,
the next thing you're going to start hearing from the
left is that guy can't get a fear of trial
in his country. With all this press coverage. There's no
way they could have an honors Jeury. That's coming down
the line. You watch.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know, I wish I could disagree with you, but
you're right. You're, as I like to say, a thousand,
not one hundred, one thousand percent correct. And by the way,
not only that, they're already going on about his relationship
with that transgender furry. You know, guy Lance Twiggs. You
know that This is like Romeo and Juliet, that this
(15:30):
was such a passionate, loving affair between them. And that's
really what motivated Tyler Robinson. He was protecting the great
love of his life from the harmful words of Charlie Kirk.
And they're already in many core corners he's a hero,
he's a folk hero for having killed Charlie Kirk. They're
(15:52):
making direct comparisons between him and Luigi Mangioni. So and
by the way, they're already saying they don't to death penalty,
absolutely not. They no, no, because why because they want
to lionize them and they want him to be alive
for seventy years, to serve as an example in a
model to others. That's how you deal with fascists. Look
(16:14):
at Tyler Robinson, and so I wish I could tell
all of you that he has remorse, or at least
that it's the reports that he has remorse. The reports
are the exact opposite that he feels guilt ridden, he
feels remorse, he feels sorry, No, quite the opposite. He
thinks he he struck.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
A blow against quote unquote hate.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He struck a blow against Trump's you know, Nazi, you know,
coming Nazi dictatorship. According to Tyler Robinson and that sick boyfriend,
both of them they thought Charlie Kirk was the second
coming of Hitler. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight Verna in Arlington. Thanks for holding and welcome.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Thank you very very very very much, Jeff and all
of you. And I want to say good morning, not
just Cooner Country, but Cooner's America to all of you
out there. I did watch the memorial service from one
till seven and after the whole thing as well. And
I want to say. Somebody just referred to a scripture
verse and I'll quote it right now. It's in Isaiah
(17:24):
chapter sixty one, Isaiah sixty one. It's verse three to
a point, unto them that mourn m you are in
to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy
for mourning. Again, m ou are a oil of joy
for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness,
(17:48):
that they may be called trees of righteousness, et cetera.
And that's right after the quote that Jesus gives in
sixty one, verse one and two. A couple of comments here,
I want to say too. I watched the whole thing,
and I want to just give a little bit of history,
if you can allow me for a moment. My own,
(18:09):
my own spiritual personal journey brought me through the Protestant, Evangelical,
Pentecostal journey into the Catholic realm. I am now a
practicing Catholic. I came from an atheistic, agnostic, unbelieving family background,
and it was my recovery that brought me to believe
(18:30):
in God. And what I saw last night, the many
ministers and pastors that also spoke, as well as all
of the administration people, including President Trump, who was the
final speaker after Erica. All of them spoke the gospel,
all of them spoke about God. All of them were
proclaiming the power of God. And I just want to
(18:53):
say that was amazing. I took photographs of everything on TV.
I was watching from TV. Obviously this is miraculous. It
is powerful, and I just you know, I just want
to put it out there that to see the revival,
and as Erica said, as well as other people said,
(19:13):
this was not a funeral service, This was a revival.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Oh you nailed it, Verna, you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Look I think there's no question what we saw yesterday
that memorial service one was a memorial service for a martyr,
a genuine as Trump put it, I thought so eloquently
and powerfully, a martyr for American freedom, a martyr for
(19:41):
the Constitution, a martyr for American patriotism. I think there's
no question. And what you also are seeing now is
a religious revival. This is what Charlie Kirk's murder, his
assassination has led to. It is now spurred on a
massive religious revival yours, especially with young people across the
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entire country. And I thought that was on full display yesterday.
And that's why I think we're going to be living
with the effects of what this shooter did to Charlie
Kirk and Charlie Kirk's martyrdom and his example. I think
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now for years and years, if not decades to come.
This is a fundamental turning point in America. We can
all sense it, we can all feel it. Anyway, Verna,
thank you very much for that call, Very well said.
And in Needham and we've got two minutes. I hate
(20:45):
to rush you, but you've got two minutes go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It was Charlie Kirk, but let's remember that all good
religions teach light over darkness, good over evil, respect, justice
and giving back.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Oh and I completely agree. You know this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Charlie Kirk was a Christian himself. But what you're seeing
now is a religious revival. It's not just people embracing Christianity.
You're seeing many Charlie Kirk had many Jewish supporters, many
of them young Jewish supporters, and they're embracing their their
Judaism now more than ever. And you're seeing he had
(21:25):
also many Indian supporters, Indian American and they're embracing their Hinduism.
So you're seeing it all religions. He had a profound
impact because he kept saying his fundamental message was faith,
family and freedom. Final word to you, n.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Now that's it. Just all good religions teach light over
the dock, respect, giving back, and we need that in
our country.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Amen. Amen, Amen, and thank you very much for that call.
In No, look, what we need is a restoration of
good versus evil, of right and wrong, and really of
a restoration of the belief in God. Because if you
go all the way back to our founding, where do
our rights come from? It's right there in the Declaration
(22:11):
of Independence. We are endowed by our creator, i e.
God Almighty, with certain unalienable rights, and the first of these,
or the foremost of these, are the right to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. So America was really founded
upon religious freedom, founded upon God, founded upon fundamental individual
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rights and liberties that we all are given to us,
endowed by God Almighty. And that was the point Charlie
tried to make again and again and again. Show me
a godless society that is a free society, as he
kept saying, show me a godless society anywhere in the
world that is ultimately a humane, decent, civilized society.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You can't
Okay, this is what my sister wrote in response to
Elon Some people did something Omar claiming that Somalia, I
swear to you, is better than Trump's America, one of
the poorest, most god forsaken countries on earth. This is
what my sister wrote in a private text message, Jeff.
(00:22):
If Somalia is so much better, then why doesn't she
just not go back there?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Jen?
Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's exactly what I'm saying. You read my mind, Jen,
So then go who's stopping you? Leave and don't let
the door hit you on the way out. And then
my sister makes a follow up point, which is also
I think dead on, Jeff. Notice that all of these
leftists think it's better everywhere else, but they remain here.
(00:53):
Why don't they all just leave because there are a
bunch of liars and hypocrites. They know, oh, it's infinitely
better here, but they gotta, you know, flop their mouth
and act all woke and you know, dump and hate
their own country. And no one does it better, frankly
than ilan Omar. So listen to her. Now they're eulogizing
(01:17):
Charlie Kirk and she goes on CNN with Caitlin Collins
another anti Trumper and listen to what elan Omar says
roll cut cut twenty one.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
Mike, I do believe he was a reprehensible, hateful man
like that is my view of the words that he
has said about every single identity that I belong to.
He didn't believe that we should have equal access to anything.
He also just didn't even believe I could be smart
(01:54):
enough I could have thoughts that could be equal to
a white man. Where are we missing this conversation about
who this man was and the things that he said?
How do you not do you not find that reprehensible? Caitlin? Well,
you do you think that I don't have that?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
But do you think I don't have.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
The brain processing power like you or a white man? Well,
of course, I'm I think it's very clear here that
if somebody said that when you say that, that would
be reprehensible views. I think the argument that was being made. No,
but I am asking what we have heard. What I'm
asking you is what you said that You're asking you,
how could I find him reprehensible? Like that is reprehensible?
(02:31):
You said it is reprehensible yourself. That is vile, It's reprehensible,
and it is hateful.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Now, the only one that's vile and evil and reprehensible
is her. It's elan Omar and throwing Kaitlyn Collins as well,
because any honest reporter would have said he never said
any of those things.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
You're lying.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
Either you're just so lazy that you've been handed did
stuff from the internet and you just, like a parrot,
mindlessly repeat them.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
So either you're a smear merchant and a liar okay,
and just a lazy idiot, or you are deliberately lying
and character assassinating this man. In other words, you're defaming him.
So is a door one or door two?
Speaker 5 (03:23):
Either way?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
And by the way, since Somalia is so much better,
how about you take door three and leave.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Now. She's one of the leaders of the Democratic Party.
Elano mar Now, I'm asking.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
You seriously and a serious question. Can you have peace
with someone like her? Can you have peace with someone
like AOC when they deliberately lie and distort and manipulate
and gaslight and insight.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And you know he deserved it, he had it coming.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Again, he never said that was a deliberate lie. It
got a Washington Post liberal editor and columnist fired from
the post, she fabricated the quote where he said that
black women don't have the same brain processing ability or
power then white women or white men.
Speaker 5 (04:28):
He never said that. That's why she got fired.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
So, in other words, instead of saying, you know, all
this incitement and all this hatred that we keep peddling
it got a man killed. No, maybe we should slow down, stop, recalibrate,
pull back, restrain ourselves.
Speaker 5 (04:52):
No, they just keep on lying. They just keep pouring
gasoline on the fire.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight agreed, disagree.
Brenda in Beverly. Thanks for holding Brenda, and welcome.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Good morning, Jeff, and thank you for taking all of
my calls. And I've got a couple of points. Thank you.
I have a couple of points. And I'm just going
to add one little thing. I don't want to speak
too much on aoc or. I call her the chick
with the two tight hajib. Maybe she should talk to
Erica Kirk. I would like her to have a one
(05:36):
on one with Erica Kirk, which exactly is what she
said to Caitlin Collins. But I'm going to let that go.
What I wanted to share with the audience and of
you is that this has been an exhausting, like twelve
days for all of us with regards to Charlie Kirk.
And I'm trying to look at this through the lens
that this is a great opportunity despite the fact that
(05:59):
you're always going to have people in the world that
have cold hats like AOC and ilian Oma, and we
are called to pray for these people. It's very difficult.
I have my sistep to God many times, like bless
your enemies, pray for your enemies. All this is it
is not an easy walk to be a Christian. And
(06:21):
he didn't. He never said that it was going to
be easy. He said it's about eternity. It's not about
being easy. But I see Charlie Kirk's death as an
opportunity for those of us that are self professed Christians.
You know, we're unashamed Christians. We tell people that were
Christians that this is our opportunity to share God's good news.
(06:42):
And we saw that yesterday for five hours, the word
of God going all over the world. So God takes
something that was meant for harm. That's actually a quote
from Genesis. I think it's.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Brenda can you just hang on as I'm up against
a hard break. Brenda in Beverly. Thanks for holding Brenda,
and welcome.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Okay, I just wanted to finish what I was saying
for you went to commercial break. I was actually in
the middle of sharing a biblical verse that I believe
that applies. It's significant to the death of Charlie Kirk.
It's in Genesis fifty twenty where God says Joseph says
to his brothers that seriously harmed him, You intended to
(07:28):
harm me, But God intended it for good to accomplish
what is now being done, the saving of many lives. Now,
we had to lose a great life in order to
save many lives. And as we could see what happened
yesterday in that phenomenal tribute and what's going on worldwide
as a result of his death, there's a lot of
(07:50):
good that is happening. Yes, Like I said before, we're
always going to have people that are stone cold hearted.
They suffer from WillFull blindiness. You understand that, Jeff and
some of these people you just unfortunately can't reach, you know,
and we're supposed to pray for them. I do want
to commend Becky from Oregon. I also wanted to quote
(08:12):
that scripture, which is significant for all of us. Forgiveness
is a really tough thing. I mean, it is a
huge battle for all of us. And on one end
of the continuum, you might have some low level offenses
that you can blow off, like you know, a family member,
now she's saying that again. Then you swing it and
then it's you know, to the horrific things that people
have to contend with, I e. Like Erica Kirk with
(08:35):
the murder of her husband, and you know the laundry
list of horrible things that go on in our world.
But we all have to do a cleanse of our
heart because we do not want to become like those
that are offending us. And like your texture, that brilliant texts,
we don't want that poison to fill us up. We do,
(08:56):
we just we don't want to do that because then
we become them. And I think it's this beauty. They
call it beauty for ashes, and I think that this
is what we perhaps are experiencing. Unfortunately, we had to
lose a great person in order to have this experience.
I believe that he's smiling as he's free, He's free.
(09:16):
We're down here contending, and you brought up a wonderful
uh an event that I saw years ago. It was
that courtroom scene. And I remember that brother's name, the
murdered brother's name. His name was Odom, and I remember
crying like, oh my, look this this man has He
(09:36):
was a young man too, if you recall. I'm like
he was. He's forgiving this woman. I had the goosebumps
even sharing that. And then of course the judge giving
the Bible, and there's huge significance for all of us
to see that. And there's and and and that is
what people saw yesterday. They and we're going to get
the hade cool. We go to get the AOC's and
I get the ilian O mos and whatnot. But many
(09:58):
people in there, there's a there's a reckoning. Uh there's
there's a something happening. It hasn't come to fruition. And
there's there's beauty in that. And it reminds me and
I remember years ago sharing this with you, and I
think you said you knew this woman because this is
where we're at as a country, Rwanda. And there's this
woman named Immaculae Ilabighisa and she was in the in
(10:21):
the in the middle of that, that whole nightmare. She
spent three months in a secret bathroom in a pastor's
home that even his wife had no knowledge of. Can
you imagine three months? And she was three months with
seven other women. This wasn't some big, glorious bathroom on
an estate. This was just some you know. You walk in,
(10:44):
there's the tub, the toilet, and the and the sink,
and seven women there. She ends up getting out. Four
members of her family were slaughtered, the hootsies and tootsies,
you know, the neighbor against neighbor. I mean, does this
sound familiar now, slaughtering these people? She starts filling up
with rage. Of course, four members of her family are dead,
(11:05):
and she has that come to Jesus. She was a Catholic.
I believe that that country was very Catholic, and so
she knew what she had to do. She goes, I
am not going to let this poison kill me. Now
on top of it, already it's already taken four members
of my family. She goes to the prison and she
(11:26):
goes not so much to confront, but to say, I
am stating the process of forgiveness because I have to,
and she looked right across from the guy. She found
out who it was. And in the book that I
have about her, it's amazing. There was deb he has
loaded a soul over to the devil. He was dead.
He's dead, He's dead. And I met that woman at
(11:48):
an event in a church and I grabbed my girlfriend
and we were sitting there and go, I want what
she has, not her materialism, not all the stuff she
lives in America. Now, I want her presence, want that
spirit of peace that she I mean when she.
Speaker 5 (12:03):
Walked into the church, well you know, they know I've
seen her. No, you're right. It's it's like there's a
light on her.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
And that's what I felt yesterday with Erica Kirk.
Speaker 5 (12:13):
There was like a.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Spiritual, transcendental light that just emanated from her. And Immaculately
had the exact same thing. And look, people, you know
people who know Immaculate very well, and I know one
in particular who's basically best friends with her. They're telling
me what you saw in Rwanda in the nineteen nineties
(12:37):
between the Hutus and the Tutsis, which was, you know what,
over a million were slaughtered in three weeks with machetes.
They just slaughtered each other. That they're starting to see
the same thing now here, the same process of dehumanization,
the same incitement. By the way, it was all lies.
They'd go on the radio. There was more radio than
(12:59):
TV because it's very poor country, but they would go
on the radio and claim that the other side or
a prominent leader of the other side said X, Y
and Z, and he had never said that. Like literally,
they were just making stuff up. And that's what you know,
what Elanomar and AOC and what they're all doing. Oh,
you know, he supports Jim Crow, he supports slavery, like
(13:23):
you're lying through your teeth. And they did that on
purpose to whip up hatred and frenzy. So in other words,
it's okay, go ahead and kill them, because there's come,
there's subhumans come. And that's what you're starting to see
slowly here in the United States. And that's why this
(13:43):
has to be called out. There has to be consequence culture,
as we're now calling it, not cancel culture. That's what
the left did. This is consequence culture. You have to
be held responsible and accountable for your your word, your deeds,
your actions, and above all, your lies, your incitement to violence,
(14:08):
violent rhetoric, and to hatred.
Speaker 5 (14:12):
And that's now what Finally.
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Many conservatives are starting to wake up to Brenda as always,
thank you very very much for that call, Bob in Plymouth.
Speaker 5 (14:23):
I know you've been holding patiently. Bob. Thank you and welcome.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
But the problem, Jeff, I'm so glad to hear that
you're feeling better. But two things I want to bring
to your attention. Number one, the question you had earlier
in the show whether you would forgive the killer. Yes, no,
you left for the third option. Never. Never would I
(14:48):
ever forgive that guy for what he did. Never. But anyway,
the next thing you're going to start hearing from the
left is that guy can't get a fear of trial
in his country. With all this press coverage. There's no
way they could have an honors Jeury. That's coming down
the line. You watch.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
You know, I wish I could disagree with you, but
you're right. You're, as I like to say, a thousand,
not one hundred, one thousand percent correct. And by the way,
not only that, they're already going on about his relationship
with that transgender furry. You know, guy Lance Twiggs. You
know that This is like Romeo and Juliet, that this
(15:30):
was such a passionate, loving affair between them. And that's
really what motivated Tyler Robinson. He was protecting the great
love of his life from the harmful words of Charlie Kirk.
And they're already in many core corners he's a hero,
he's a folk hero for having killed Charlie Kirk. They're
(15:52):
making direct comparisons between him and Luigi Mangioni. So and
by the way, they're already saying they don't to death penalty,
absolutely not. They no, no, because why because they want
to lionize them and they want him to be alive
for seventy years, to serve as an example in a
model to others. That's how you deal with fascists. Look
(16:14):
at Tyler Robinson, and so I wish I could tell
all of you that he has remorse, or at least
that it's the reports that he has remorse. The reports
are the exact opposite that he feels guilt ridden, he
feels remorse, he feels sorry, No, quite the opposite. He
thinks he he struck.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
A blow against quote unquote hate.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
He struck a blow against Trump's you know, Nazi, you know,
coming Nazi dictatorship. According to Tyler Robinson and that sick boyfriend,
both of them they thought Charlie Kirk was the second
coming of Hitler. Six one seven two six six sixty
eight sixty eight Verna in Arlington. Thanks for holding and welcome.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Thank you very very very very much, Jeff and all
of you. And I want to say good morning, not
just Cooner Country, but Cooner's America to all of you
out there. I did watch the memorial service from one
till seven and after the whole thing as well. And
I want to say. Somebody just referred to a scripture
verse and I'll quote it right now. It's in Isaiah
(17:24):
chapter sixty one, Isaiah sixty one. It's verse three to
a point, unto them that mourn m you are in
to give them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy
for mourning. Again, m ou are a oil of joy
for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness,
(17:48):
that they may be called trees of righteousness, et cetera.
And that's right after the quote that Jesus gives in
sixty one, verse one and two. A couple of comments here,
I want to say too. I watched the whole thing,
and I want to just give a little bit of history,
if you can allow me for a moment. My own,
(18:09):
my own spiritual personal journey brought me through the Protestant, Evangelical,
Pentecostal journey into the Catholic realm. I am now a
practicing Catholic. I came from an atheistic, agnostic, unbelieving family background,
and it was my recovery that brought me to believe
(18:30):
in God. And what I saw last night, the many
ministers and pastors that also spoke, as well as all
of the administration people, including President Trump, who was the
final speaker after Erica. All of them spoke the gospel,
all of them spoke about God. All of them were
proclaiming the power of God. And I just want to
(18:53):
say that was amazing. I took photographs of everything on TV.
I was watching from TV. Obviously this is miraculous. It
is powerful, and I just you know, I just want
to put it out there that to see the revival,
and as Erica said, as well as other people said,
(19:13):
this was not a funeral service, This was a revival.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Oh you nailed it, Verna, you nailed it.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Look I think there's no question what we saw yesterday
that memorial service one was a memorial service for a martyr,
a genuine as Trump put it, I thought so eloquently
and powerfully, a martyr for American freedom, a martyr for
(19:41):
the Constitution, a martyr for American patriotism. I think there's
no question. And what you also are seeing now is
a religious revival. This is what Charlie Kirk's murder, his
assassination has led to. It is now spurred on a
massive religious revival yours, especially with young people across the
(20:03):
entire country. And I thought that was on full display yesterday.
And that's why I think we're going to be living
with the effects of what this shooter did to Charlie
Kirk and Charlie Kirk's martyrdom and his example. I think
(20:24):
now for years and years, if not decades to come.
This is a fundamental turning point in America. We can
all sense it, we can all feel it. Anyway, Verna,
thank you very much for that call, Very well said.
And in Needham and we've got two minutes. I hate
(20:45):
to rush you, but you've got two minutes go.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
It was Charlie Kirk, but let's remember that all good
religions teach light over darkness, good over evil, respect, justice
and giving back.
Speaker 5 (21:01):
Oh and I completely agree. You know this.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Charlie Kirk was a Christian himself. But what you're seeing
now is a religious revival. It's not just people embracing Christianity.
You're seeing many Charlie Kirk had many Jewish supporters, many
of them young Jewish supporters, and they're embracing their their
Judaism now more than ever. And you're seeing he had
(21:25):
also many Indian supporters, Indian American and they're embracing their Hinduism.
So you're seeing it all religions. He had a profound
impact because he kept saying his fundamental message was faith,
family and freedom. Final word to you, n.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Now that's it. Just all good religions teach light over
the dock, respect, giving back, and we need that in
our country.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
Amen. Amen, Amen, and thank you very much for that call.
In No, look, what we need is a restoration of
good versus evil, of right and wrong, and really of
a restoration of the belief in God. Because if you
go all the way back to our founding, where do
our rights come from? It's right there in the Declaration
(22:11):
of Independence. We are endowed by our creator, i e.
God Almighty, with certain unalienable rights, and the first of these,
or the foremost of these, are the right to life, liberty,
and the pursuit of happiness. So America was really founded
upon religious freedom, founded upon God, founded upon fundamental individual
(22:37):
rights and liberties that we all are given to us,
endowed by God Almighty. And that was the point Charlie
tried to make again and again and again. Show me
a godless society that is a free society, as he
kept saying, show me a godless society anywhere in the
world that is ultimately a humane, decent, civilized society.
Speaker 5 (23:02):
You can't
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