Assassination and Forgiveness

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, So just to make a clear clarification because many
of you are calling in saying, Jeff, this was not
the shooting that took place Saturday night in Nashaua, New Hampshire.
This was an act of left wing terrorism. There's no question.
There's no question, doesn't matter how the media tries to
spin it, how local authorities are trying to spin and

(00:21):
suppress this. The shooter who's been identified now Hunter Nadeaux, Nadeaus,
how you spell his last name? Twenty three years of age.
This was at a wedding reception, at a party for
the bride and the groom. So it was at the

(00:43):
Nashaua country Club, the sky Meadow country Club. As I said,
I've been there once. I know for sure I've been
there once. It is beautiful, it really is. It's a
stunning country club. It's a beautiful golf course. I've been
act even inside sky Meadow and great play the whole
events and wedding receptions. Anyway, So the shooter broke into

(01:06):
the restaurant where the reception was being held and yelled
out free, Free Palestine, and then, apparently according to police,
started to shoot into the crowd and a wedding guest
was there sitting at a table with his wife and daughter.

(01:29):
I believe his mother was there as well, and so
they were invited by the by the bride, the family
of the bride in the groom, and he apparently shielded
his wife and daughter. Robert Stephen de Szar. I believe
it's how you pronounce his last name. If I mispronouncing
it or mangling it, I apologize. D E c E

(01:53):
s A r E is his last name. And he
was shot shot dead. Two others were also wounded critically.
They will survive from bullet wounds. And then there were
six others that were injured, but those were non shooting related.
These were people that were ducking trying to run out

(02:14):
the door, run through the kitchen. There was absolute panic
and pandemonium. One of the wedding guests, who is now
a hero, was able to grab a chair and smash
it over the shooter. Just broke it and hit the shooter,
and the shooter fell to the ground. He lost his
gun and they were able to control him and the

(02:38):
police came and arrested him. Originally, there were media reports
that they were not one but two shooters, and so
in southern New Hampshire northern Massachusetts. For several hours. There
was an intense manhunt the police where they issued shelter
in place orders. They were trying to find the second shooter. However,
they looked at the video surveillance. I'm just telling you

(03:00):
what they reported to the public, and they say it
ended up being just one shooter and not two. He
was dressed completely in black, wearing a mask, and of
course shouted free, Free Palestine. So my point being, this
was an act of left wing terrorism. They haven't stopped.
They haven't stopped. They did it the weekend of the

(03:22):
Charlie Kirk Memorial on Friday in Sacramento very quickly. Another
a well known anti Trump leftist, you can look at
his Facebook page and his ex account, calling for Trump
to be killed, calling him king a dictator the whole

(03:42):
nine yards shot up an ABC building, an ABC affiliate
in Sacramento, just literally just shot up the building, shot
through a window, three shots, boom, boom, boom, hoping to
kill somebody inside. Why to protest the firing of Jimmy Kimmel,

(04:03):
Because the firing of Jimmy Kimmel was the act of
a fascist and the act of a dictator according to
what the media is claiming. So of course he's got
to go shoot up a building because he's fighting a
dictatorship now in his crazy, deranged mind. So, as I
said on X last night, left wing violence, it's not

(04:24):
getting better, it's getting worse. It's exploding. So as we
say peace, peace, peace, forgiveness, forgiveness, forgiveness, the left has
declared war on America. That's the fact. I'm sorry, those
are the facts, and my fear is who's going to

(04:47):
be the next to die. That's why I support Trump
designating Antifa a terrorist organization and go after every single
one of these radical left wing groups that are pushing
and promoting violence and terror, because I'm telling you, my friends,
they're not letting up an inch. Agree, disagree six one

(05:11):
seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight. Jerry on
cape Cod, Thanks for holding Jerry, and welcome.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Jeff. God bless you. I'm glad you're okay.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Thank you, Jared, Jeff.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
I am heartbroken over this. Ever since last Wednesday, I've
done nothing but cry. I'd be sitting in I just
start crying thinking about Charlie. It's not like I knew him.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
Or anything.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
But Jeff, I want to get onto four points here.
This is a war against us. They haven't decleared war.
The war's already begun. They want to kill us all.
They've made it clear, they've said it in videos. But Jeff,
they have to do this, the globalist this is their plan.
If they do away with all of us heterosexuals and

(06:00):
people that quote unquote normies, then it makes them easier
to go along with their communist one world government of
control over the people. But Jeff, I've seen I don't
know if you've seen this, but I've seen numerous videos
of these transgender people. Do you know what they believe?
You're sitting down.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Right, yes, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
They believed that during World War Two that the Nazis
the first thing they did was round up transgenders and immigrants.
This is what they believe. They actually, wholeheartedly, full throatd
believe this. And I'm not just talking about one person,
numerous I've seen numerous videos with these people saying this.

(06:44):
But Jeff, that memorial yesterday, can I ask you a question?
You know, but you're you're an inside guy. I have
some connections, but you're really inside. What is it that
Sean Duffy and his wife have against Tucker Colson. Do
you know do you know the backstory to that?

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Well, they can't stand the fact that he's now become
a leading critic of Israel. I mean, in a nutshell,
that's what it is. It's there there. They they they're
attacking him for January sixth, that he showed the footage,
and they're going after him now because he's become a
critic of Benjamin et Nyahu and Israel's war in Gaza,

(07:22):
and that's making him now persona non grata, not just
with Sean Duffy, but frankly with many within the Trump administration.
So that's that's the short answer to your question. Jerry.
Six one seven two six six sixty eight sixty eight
is the number. Okay, Listen now to Erica Kirk talking

(07:43):
about her husband, Charlie Kirk, her late husband, at an
absolutely I mean, just a spectacular speech that she delivered
these there's no other way to say it. Listen to
her saying, Charlie Kirk had a bargain with God and
he wanted God to use him in a certain way.

(08:04):
And this was the essence of who Charlie was. Roll
cut five, Mike.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
He quoted one of his favorite Bible verses, Isaiah chapter six,
verse eight, Here I am Lord, send me. After Charlie finished,
I met him backstage and I.

Speaker 5 (08:26):
Spoke to him, and I'll never forget this.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I said, Charlie, baby, please talk to me next time
before you say that statement, because when you say something
like that, there is so much.

Speaker 5 (08:41):
Power in that verse. When you say, here, I am Lord,
use me. God will take you up on that. And
he did with Charlie.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
I mean, it was applause after applause. Honestly, it was
brilliant point after brilliant point, line after line. She truly
met the moment. I have to tell you, I just
can't stress enough just what an incredible speech it was.
It wasn't a home run, it was a grand slam.

(09:21):
And you know she's right. Kirk really saw himself as
doing the Lord's will and being an instrument of God.
He in a way like a true Christian, he surrendered
himself to God, and even if it meant that he
would be martyred, that he would be in a way
like Jesus crucified that you go where you have to go.

(09:44):
And he went into college campuses. He knew the risk.
He got death threats all the time, all the time,
and he didn't care for a lot of security. He
wanted to be as close and direct with the students
as possible. He wanted them to feel welcomed so they
could have a back and forth in a dialogue. And

(10:06):
in the end, it was the power of his message,
it was his truth. It was his words that proved
too much for the radical left, and that's why they
had to kill him. Six one seven two six six
sixty eight sixty eight is the number. Did you watch

(10:27):
the memorial? What did you make of the memorial? And
let me ask you the ultimate question. Erica Kirk forgave,
forgives the killer the shooter of her husband, Tyler Robinson.
Could you forgive the killer of your loved one or
your spouse? Six one seven two six six sixty eight

(10:50):
sixty eight. Andy in Milford, Thanks for holding Andy.

Speaker 6 (10:56):
And welcome Ah, Good morning, Jeff. I did watch the
whole Charlie Kirk memorial service, and the whole thing was
powerful from start to finish, and Erica Kirk was especially powerful.

(11:17):
And is you know as far as as far as forgiveness,
Jeff I'm a yes on that, but only through my
faith in God. I would not be able to do
that within myself. And it's clear to me that Erica's

(11:37):
faith in God is is what enables her to forgive.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Andy. You know, I got to ask you this, and
I'm almost reluctant to ask because this is all about
Charlie and it should be about Charlie. But she honored him,
as you put it, so powerfully and so effectively and honestly,
so gracefully and so brilliantly. Are we watching? Is this

(12:05):
a star is born? Are we watching now? It's almost
like a miracle. The spirit of Charlie Kirk, the message
of Charlie Kirk, the meaning of Charlie Kirk almost passed
on to his wife to continue his message, his legacy,

(12:25):
his mission.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
What say you, Andy, I think that's absolutely what we saw,
because what what a successful leader does is they're able
to reproduce themselves and others. That's what we're seeing there.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Interesting, interesting, Andy. As always, thank you very much for
that call. Tommy in Brockton. Thanks for a whole thing, Tommy,
and as always welcome.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah. I watched that program for Charlie yesterday from beginning
to end. The first young man that spoke really moved me.
And yeah, when Erica Kurk started speaking.

Speaker 4 (13:26):
I just.

Speaker 3 (13:31):
Tears, is all I can say. Tears. I just can't
imagine the loss she's going to feel for the rest
of her life. You know, I've been told for the
last ten years or so that you're a Trump supporter,

(13:52):
you're a Nazi, you're a fascist, blah blah blah. Okay,
and what she said in her addressed to the crowd
in the nation, nobody rioted after Charlie Kirk's death or
his assassination. You mentioned earlier that a TV station was

(14:13):
shot in Sacramento. A day after that was on Friday.
The day after there were protests at that TV station
for the canceling of Jimmy Kimmel. Out in Salt Lake
City about a week ago, there was an acendiary device
found at a Fox News outlet that never went off.

(14:34):
I'm sorry, but those aren't Trump supporters doing that. I
have a message to President Trump. He needs to go
to Memphis and meet with black residents, not activists in
the social justice movement, not features, but meet with regular

(14:57):
people from section of Memphis and just take questions from
those people. If Trump were to do that and that
was broadcast nationally and you were to hear of a
young woman, a mother saying, I can't even let my
kids on the porch. I have to keep my window

(15:19):
shades pulled because I'm afraid we're going to get shot.
And these people are living in total fear of them
of living in those neighborhoods because of the gang violence.
President Trump, please go into Memphis and just talk to people,
because the national public radio crowd is just so condescending

(15:43):
towards people like these. They take people like Al Sharpton
and other so called activists as if they really know
what's going on in the so called hood. No they don't.
These are people that are funded by NGO organizations. But anyway,
I digress that you're right, this violence is only going

(16:06):
to get worse. And Jeff, on Saturday in Brockton, at
the intersection of Pleasant Street in West Street, there was
a protest of a bunch of bellowly white people and
one of the signs said no more death threats. And
I thought, oh, this is great, you know, so I
circled my pickup truck around with my wife and I

(16:27):
stopped because it was just jam packed. And I asked
this one woman and I happened to see a no
King's protester, no no Kings sign, and then another one
that said fascist, and I said you and another one
that said Jimmy Kimmel firing. I said, you do realize
why Jimmy Kimmel was fired? And she goes, yes, Trump's

(16:48):
the fascists. I said no, he blatantly lied about who
the shooter was, and his oh, you're right, Well.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
You're completely right, Tommy. That's the thing. You're so brainwashed
and propagandized. Six one seven two six six sixty eight
sixty eight is the number. Okay, you can text the
cooner man seven zero four seven zero seven zero four
seven zero. Audience is on fire this morning. This is

(17:20):
from seven oh three, Jeff. What I find most disturbing
about the left's reaction to the suspension of Jimmy Kimmel
is imagine being more upset about a canceled TV show
than a political assassination and still thinking you're a decent

(17:45):
human being. You know, seven oh three, I agree with you.
You can see it. Democrats, and you know, these moonbats,
those on the left are much more upset about Jimmy
Kimmel being taking off the air by the way, a
show with no ratings, okay, no ratings, than they are

(18:07):
about the murder of an innocent man, the cold blooded
political murder of an innocent man. And they're going more
and more about Jimmy Kimmel, who, by the way, is
a gazillionaire. He's got three, not one, not two, three mansions,
who made over sixteen million dollars a year. And I'm

(18:31):
talking he made over sixteen million for over what is it,
ten fifteen years? The guy's worth something like two hundred
million dollars. Like he's gonna be okay, but hey, he's
not gonna be out on the streets, you know, he
and his kids won't be eating hand to mouth like
relax anyway. It's unbelievable. Uh, this is from five oh eight, Jeff.

(18:59):
The left keep's defending Jimmy Kimmel. Even now, in the
wake of Charlie Kirk's memorial, they can't stop talking about
Jimmy Kimmel. And yet I am surprised that this guy
who once wore blackface and calls large breasted women to

(19:19):
drump on trampolines lasted as long as he did in
liberal Hollywood. Well, that's the other thing they're also sweeping
under the rug is disgusting past. See they notice it's
not in the left view among so many Democrats and
the media. It's not Charlie Kirk. That's the martyr. No, no, no, no,

(19:45):
it's Jimmy Kimmel. You can't make this up. I'm serious. Okay,
one more. This is from six one seven, Jeff, Please
think about this. The left murders an innocent man and

(20:05):
then celebrates his death and then calls for more political
violence against their opponents, and they're the victims. If you
watch CNN or MSNBC, that's exactly. And many Democrats that's

(20:25):
exactly the narrative of their spinning like somehow they're the ones.
So the fascist right is rising after after Charlie Kirk.
Look at that memorial. It's a rally a fascists. It's
I'm telling you, it's frightening.

Speaker 7 (20:45):
Now.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Remember I spoke about this last week. There is a
very popular liberal podcaster, I mean liberal, I mean I
use that term in the way it's talked about today.
He's a communist. Like most liberals and progressives, he's a
Marxist and he's a communist. But his name is Stephen Bennell.
He goes by AKA Destiny, and he's got millions of

(21:08):
people who follow him on his podcast. And if you remember,
he was the one that cheered on the murder of
Charlie Kirk, celebrated it, in fact, saying we need more
murders of prominent conservatives because conservatives need to be afraid
to go to rallies. They need to be afraid to
speak in public. They need to be afraid to give

(21:29):
speeches or debate people. So the way to keep them
afraid and constantly cowering is if you keep killing them. Well,
here is what he wrote in reaction to the memorial. Quote,
This Charlie Kirk quote unquote memorial is indistinguishable from a

(21:51):
Nazi rally. And I can't say the F bomb on
the air get fined and f anyone who wants to
pret it's not now, it's not just that he says
something as utterly disgusting and frankly unhinged, unhinged. This guy's crazy, unhinged,

(22:11):
He's insane. He's insane. If what you saw yesterday as
a Hitler rally, we're the elevator does not go to
the top. You have some serious scruise loose. But it's
how many likes that post of his got, how many views,

(22:31):
how many liberals and leftists and democrats applauded it, applauded it,
agreed with it. You can't coexist with these people. How
can you peacefully coexist with them? And again, I'm not
calling for violence on them, far from it. We're the

(22:53):
non violent ones. But normalcy, decency, literally love, compassionate forgiveness,
that was on display yesterday. If that's a Nazi rally,
then everything, literally everything is a Nazi rally. That wedding
reception in nashaua where the bride and the groom before

(23:18):
they're about to do their first dance, that's a Nazi
that's a Nazi rally. Free Palestine, just just just mow
them down. Anything that's normal, a school, whatever, a family together,
an ordinary debate, anything, anything that's normal and decent is

(23:40):
it's fascism. It's Nazism. We've got we have to defeat
these people. We have to stand up to them, we
have to call them out. We have to. We can
no longer turn a blind eye. We can't six months

(24:00):
sixty eight sixty eight agreed, disagree, Ross in Boston, Thanks
for holding Ross and welcome.

Speaker 7 (24:11):
Good morning, Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Country.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
God dwells in our end every single day.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Yesterday it was.

Speaker 7 (24:20):
A tribute to a great American and his relationship with God, family,
and country. Do not confuse forgiveness with the need for punishment.
My best example Saint John Paul for game the president
who shot him, but the Italian government did not let
him run free. He was punished for sure, okay, because

(24:41):
he was an evil person and he deserved to be punished.
As a practicing Roman Catholic, How can any practicing Roman
Catholic be so stupid and support the godless Democratic Party
that's led by evil people. To them, God is death. Now,
the spirit of Charlie Kirk lives on and his wife.

(25:02):
Two days after husband was assassinated, she stood next to
her Charlie's empty chair, and it reminded me of the
ridless Soldier, which is a tribute to the dead soldier,
the riderless hoss. Okay, and to me that chair meant
the same exact thing. And there is no doubt in

(25:22):
my mind this woman now is going to dedicate the
rest of her life to keep the spirit of Charlie alive.
And Jeff, you know you're talking about forgiveness. Okay, believe
when I said this. I'm a practicing Wokman Catholic, but
I can never forgive anybody that has done anything, any
harmful thing to my family. And I will say this
about forgiveness. On this radio station, Tom Finner and asked

(25:45):
me about torture and if a terrorist had information that
could lead to the to saving my family, Okay, I
could force myself by envisioning my family members in taskets,
and Jeff believe me, I could commit an act of
evil by taking a blow, touch and standing at the
terrors of a terrorist until I got the information I

(26:07):
needed to save my family. And yes, good people like myself,
people of God like myself, can be first to commit
acts of evil under certain circumstances.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Russ. Honestly, I think that's most of us, and I
think there's nothing wrong with that. In fact, I agree
with you. People would ask me that during the whole
watered boarding debate, and I would say, well, would you
be willing to use torture to save millions of lives?
Would you be willing to use torture to save your family.
To me, you're immoral if you're not willing to do

(26:40):
what it takes to save your family, your country, millions
of people. You're dealing with evil. That's what terrorists are.
They're evil. They're wicked, evil people who are willing to
do wicked, heenous, unspeakable crimes. So to be soft in
front of them, or to be naive about them, or

(27:01):
to be cowardly in the face of them, I believe
is a sin I do. I'm not a pacifist. I've
never been a pacifist. To me, pacifism is a sin.
You're basically saying you're gonna allow evil people to kill you,
which means you have no respect for your own life
and kill everybody around you, which means you have no
respect or care for anybody else's life. So I'm with

(27:26):
you all the way. No, what to me is just
remarkable about her, and I agree with you. There's almost
something saintly. There's like a saintly quality to it where
we know the mense personal price this poor woman is paid,
and what her husband, her late husband, meant to her
and meant to her two dear children, and meant to

(27:48):
everyone in her family and to his family, and for
her to come out and say, because my Lord and
Savior asks me to, I will forgive him as well.
In other words, I'm not gonna let hate brew in
my heart. And what she's really saying is please, no violence, Please,

(28:10):
no retribution. Please, I don't want you to hurt anyone
on the other side the left in the name of
my husband. If that's not who he was about, that's
not what we're about, honestly, Russ, it's Martin Luther King.
I mean, that's what it is. Really, that's the only

(28:30):
thing I can think of in the American context. He
was the same. He believed in nonviolence, he believed in peace,
he believed in forgiveness, he believed in redemption. He was
a deeply Christian man, although he was very flawed in
many ways in his personal life, but you know, let
that go. He you know, he truly believed in the
teachings of the Gospel. And that was Charlie Kirk. And

(28:52):
that's that's Erica Kirk. And you know she doesn't just
you know, talk the talk, she walks the walk. And
that's what I thought was so, I don't know, almost
superhuman I mean, I don't want to overstate it here,
but it really was. It was transcendental, and that's why
she got such an applause when she said it. It

(29:14):
was just so powerful and so moving. I remember, Russ
probably you remember it as well. I did a story
about a police officer, this was in Texas, who literally
maybe had too many drinks, but made the mistake of
going to the wrong apartment on the wrong floor, and

(29:37):
the door happened to be opened, but it wasn't her apartment.
She lived in a different floor. And so she comes
into the apartment and she sees a young African man
watching television on the couch. And this police officer happened
to be white, thought, oh my god, someone just broke
into my apartment. This guy, what's he doing in my apartment?
And then she said, you know, get out, get out,

(29:59):
get out, and of course, like, what do you mean
get out? And she thought he had something on him. Anyway,
she shot him. She shot him, She killed him. It
was clearly an accidental shooting, but he was still shooting.
It was a murder. And I remember during the trial
the victim's younger brother, the mother was very angry, but

(30:21):
the victim's younger brother on the stand, because you could
see that the police officer was weeping and crying like
you can tell she didn't mean to kill him. It
was all one big misunderstanding. And she knows now she's
going to have to live with this for the rest
of her life, and she fears her soul is going
to be damned. Remember if she's a Christian, I'm going

(30:43):
to go to hell like this is going to haunt
me now for the rest of eternity, all eternity forgot
my life. And he says to her, I forgive you.
He's a Christian, the younger brother was a Christian of
the victim, and he said, I forgive you. And he said,
to be honest, what I feel right now is I

(31:04):
just want to come and just give you a hug.
And the whole courtroom was stunned. I mean just stunned.
You would think he'd be angry, he'd be yelling, he'd
be screaming, he'd be you know, profanities, he'd be insulting,
and everybody would understand. Instead, he got up and he
hugged her as she kind of collapsed in his arms,

(31:25):
almost like a child. And he's consoling her, and then
the judge, who happened to be black African American, came
over and gave the police officer at that very moment
a Bible and said, Jesus forgives. If you ask for forgiveness,

(31:47):
Jesus will forgive you, and literally gave the police officer
a Bible. I've never forgotten that. That was years ago.
I've never ever forgotten that ever. I'm telling you it
just it has stayed with me. Number One, I couldn't
be that good. I just couldn't. I couldn't be that forgiving.

(32:09):
I couldn't. But what I saw in that courtroom, honest
to God, was the best of America, the best, the
absolute best. And of course the police officer got punished.
You has to be punished. They threw the book at her.
You have to throw the book at it. I was murder.
That man did not deserve to die, period. He was
an innocent victim. And she's going to spend the rest

(32:30):
of her life in jail. But they thought of her
soul because part of it was they could see, I mean,
the woman was really she's gonna get you thought she
was gonna get a nervous breakdown, you can see on
her like, you know, she's not this grinning sociopath. I mean,
the woman is. She's not a victim. I'm not saying that,

(32:52):
but just you can tell the woman was just so
choked up, so heartbroken over what she had done. Was
what she did was wrong and evil, and she's going
to pay an immense price. But still, the whole thing,
it was just It's why I'm telling you this is
the greatest country in the world. Period. That's it. I'm sorry.
There's nothing else to say, really, Russ. And what Erica

(33:16):
Kirk did yesterday it was christ like and you rarely
see that anymore, at least not in public. Thank you
so much for that call, Russ. As always, I love
your honesty. Thanks again, Russ. Becky in Oregon, thanks for
holding Becky and welcome.

Speaker 8 (33:37):
Hey, good morning, Jiff. I'm so thankful that you're back
in that you're.

Speaker 7 (33:40):
Okay, and thank you.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
Thank you, Becky.

Speaker 8 (33:44):
And I wanted to be lazy and not call, but
I felt like I didn't have a choice, so I'm
just gonna These are the words of Jesus from the Bible.
I'm not trying to preach to anybody, but I felt
like this was important, like you know everybody, Okay, this
is right after this is in Matthew six fourteen and fifteen,

(34:06):
just two short verses, and it's right after he he says,
he says, in this manner, therefore, pray, and he starts
with the our Father, the Lord's prayer. So immediately after
that is verse fourteen, and it says, for if you
forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you,

(34:28):
and verse fifteen, but if you do not forgive men
their trespasses, neither will your father forgive your trespasses. And
the way Google, you know, because I knew that verse
was in there, and boy you can just if you
know a verse, you can just google it and it
tells you right there it was Matthew six fifteen, and
it said the way Google put it, our forgiveness, us

(34:52):
being forgiven is conditional on us forgiving them. So that's
all I wanted to say. And also, so I guess
we have to forgive that stupid bus driver. You're a
bus driver.

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, no, I forgive him a long time. They're just
bruised ribs. You know, I'll be okay, you know, I'll survive, no.
But Becky, I'm so happy you mentioned that point because
you're right. In the Lord's prayer itself, you know you're right,
it commands forgiveness. In other words, if you want to
be forgiven for your sins, you have to forgive others.

(35:28):
And look, I'll be honest with you, there's been a
lot of things done against me personally that have really
hurt over the years. And yeah, I do forgive them.
It takes a bit of time, not right away, but
it's an act of will. What I'm saying is like,
I gotta do it. I know I have to do it.
The Lord commands me to do it. Hell, every time

(35:51):
I do the r Father, it says, right there, you
know I have to forgive. I have to forgive, and
you know so. And but it's it's will. It's like
almost I'm thinking it, and I'm trying to force it
on myself, and you know, and whenever I get flashes
of anger, I say, come on, bury it, push it away.
What she did, it came from within her soul. It

(36:16):
came from deep within her heart. It you know, I mean, yeah,
maybe you know, you say, well, five years from now
or ten years from now, she'd say okay, I forgive him,
you know, and you say, well, that's beautiful. I understand.
But to do it so quickly while everything is still

(36:36):
how do I say this? I mean, he hasn't been
buried yet, for God's sake, the wound is so fresh,
I mean her wound and the children, and the way
she did it, the way she did it so authentically
emotion not just like the way I do it, when
it's it's an act of will, like I gotta okay, God,
please give me the strength to forgive. Please give me

(36:58):
the strength to forgive. Please please. You know, it's like
I'm forcing it, and I almost like intellectually like come on,
you know you have to do this, so just come on.
Do it the way she did it emotionally, spiritually, from
the inner recesses of her heart and her soul, with
true conviction. She truly has pity for the assassin. She

(37:25):
truly like, you know, you're gonna burn in hell, like
I'm praying for your soul. Yeah, you took my husband,
but my husband's in a much better place. Yeah, he
was taken from us too soon, No question, I'm gonna
really miss him. My children are really gonna miss him.
What you've done is something very bad, and there's no question,
but my husband is an eternity. He's in paradise, as

(37:48):
she put it, he's in heaven. He made it. You you're
gonna burn, man, You're gonna burn the pit of hell.
And it's almost like, do you understand what you've done
and what you're facing my husband? You're exactly the kind
of young lost man that my husband made his mission

(38:11):
to go to college campuses to reach and try to
potentially save, and like almost like she's almost like taking
pity on him, not in a condescending way, but really
just like I'm praying for your soul, Like, really, I
forgive you because the fate that's in store for you,

(38:34):
it's it's unimaginable. Look, that's she stole the show. There's
no other way to put it. I've never seen, at
least in public, never seen any I've never seen a
speech like that in my life.