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June 17, 2025 4 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There is now a huge schism within the MAGA movement.
Tucker Carlson, one of maga's premiere, leading prominent influencers and
up until recently, a huge Trump supporter, has now come
out against President Trump, and in particular, Tucker Carlson now

(00:20):
argues that Trump's open public support for Benjamin net Nyahou
and Israel's attack on Tehran Iran is now a fundamental
betrayal of the magabase and of the voters who put
him in the White House. According to Tucker Carlson, the

(00:40):
United States has no business backing Israel in its targeted
nuclear and missile strikes against the key nuclear infrastructure and
facilities that Iran now has across their entire country. According
now to Tucker, this iss fight and bb net Nyaho

(01:03):
is trying to suck drag the United States in on
the side of Israel to fight Iran and impose regime change.
And as Tucker said bluntly on an interview with Steve Bannon,
a war with Iran would be the end of the
American Empire, It would break Trump's presidency, and it would

(01:26):
be a fundamental betrayal, a broken promise to his supporters
and voters that he would end endless wars. Trump now
has responded saying that a nuclear Iran, a nuclear armed Iran,
is so reckless and irresponsible that if you want peace,

(01:47):
it's the one thing that must be avoided. That a
nuclear Iran will lead to a holocaust with Israel and
a larger regional war. It is a risk that the
civilized world cannot take. And so here now stand Trump
and Tucker Carlson. And what is interesting to me is

(02:09):
that Tucker now sees it as himself as the person
who defines who is MAGA and who isn't MAGA. Well,
as Trump said, Trump is the one who has led
the MAGA movement for the last ten years, not Tucker Carlson.
And moreover, Tucker Carlson may talk a good game, but

(02:32):
in the end, the man who has to make the
decisions is President Trump. He has seen the intelligence from Israel.
He believes that Iran is several weeks away from sprinting
to acquiring the nuclear bomb. And as he rightly said,
a nuclear armed Iran guarantees a nuclear holocaust. And if

(02:56):
you believe in peace, and if you believe in not
having wars, a nuclear Iran will guarantee the mother of
all wars. On this one, I'm with Trump and not Tucker.
Tucker Carlson has jumped the shark, and as I said
on Newsmax yesterday, and I want to reemphasize it, so far,

(03:20):
Trump has brilliantly handled the Middle East situation. He has
threaded the needle. He is supporting Israel and bab Net
Nyahu as they pound the Mullahs into submission and destroy
and degrade their nuclear capacity, their military infrastructure, their ability

(03:42):
to ever threaten their neighbors again. Yet he hasn't committed
one American boot on the ground, one American missile, one
American warplane, or one American fighter jet. Israel is not
asking us to fight their war. All they're asking us
is to let them fight their war and end the

(04:03):
threat posed by the Mullas Tucker Carlson is wrong, Donald
Trump is right. And my suggestion to Tucker, maybe it's
time you keep your powder dry, because the longer this
war goes on, the more the obvious fact of Iran's

(04:25):
illicit nuclear weapons program is going to be exposed and
Israel will be vindicated. As I said on the air,
and I'll say it again, Israel shall fight, and Israel
shall be right.
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