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Speaker 1 (00:00):
About the institutions as well as the individuals who are
doing extraordinary things in our cities and communities. We begin
this morning introducing you to an individual who has dedicated
his life to music and the teaching of music to
young people on Chicago's West Side. His name is Howard Sandefer,
and he is the co founder of the Chicago West
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Community Music Center. In honor of International Jazz Day. In
honor of International Jazz Day, his Community Orchestra is conducting
a free music concert at the beautiful Garfield Park Conservatory
on April twenty eighth. We'll get the details. We'll also
learn about the devastating effect of potential funding cuts to
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one of the most successful education programs around the TRIO
programs will talk about what can be done to prevent
the budget and program cuts, and we'll close out our
conversations this morning learning about Arts Alliance, a program dedicated
to promoting the arts and artists in the state of Illinois.
So there is a lot of important to hear about
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this morning, and we begin with a free music concert
in honor of the art form known as jazz. Chicago
is known for many things, from Deep Dish pizza to
the Chicago blues and you have to throw in their
Chicago jazz. This year and celebration of the fifteenth annual
International Jazz Day, the Chicago West Community Music Center presents
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a Chicago World Jazz Celebration. Joining me this morning is
the co founder of the Chicago West Community Music Center,
Howard Sanderfer. Howard, always a pleasure to.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Talk to you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Tell me about this year's fifteenth Annual International Jazz Day
Celebration concert.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
First of all, it's always great to speak with you, Darryl,
Thank you so much. And here we all are excited
about this event coming up. In fact, the week next
week will be a week full of Chicago jazz, international jazz,
whatever artists, particularly Chicago artists who will be performing at
various venus North Side, Soide, West Side and playing the
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music which is always say eminating out of Chicago in
the early days and still eminating throughout the world Chicago
jazz and so in particular our orchestra in the Chicago
West Community Music Center orchestra, we're excited to be doing
a concert on.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Next Tuesday evening, April.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Twenty eighth, at the Garfield Park Conservatory and.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Our concert is titled Chicago to the world.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
A jazz celebration, and there we're going to be celebrating
the music and taking the listeners on a chronological journey
through the history of Chicago's jazz. As you know we've
discussed this before. We're going to start with the music
of the great Lewis Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We'll continue up and talking to King Oliver.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We got to give King Oliver the credit because he's
the guy that brought Lewis.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Here absolutely rightly. Seventeenth, nineteen twenty two. At the behest
of King Oliver, Lewis Armstrong, who was his protege, came
up from Louis, New Orleans to Chicago and changed used
the face of music, not just popular music, jazz music,
but music. Louis Armstrong came in and the rest of
his history. They say he started playing a style of
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music that hadn't been heard before, particularly in Chicago, and
influenced so many artists here in Chicago, and that music
continued to grow and develop, as we say with ear
He worked with Earl Father Hines and even had some
young guys from the West Side of Chicago called the
Austin High Gang, who we used to come out there
were actually Austin high school students. They would come out
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at nighttime on the South Side to check out these
great musicians and come back on the West Side and
develop their music and their art became very influential jazz
musicians as well. We've got to explore the music of
all these great artists Oscar Brown Junior, Donald Washington, not
King Cole, Great Yancock, Ramsey Lewis. It goes on and on,
and we still have some young artists today who are
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music is being performed and heard around the world, still
influenced in the world of music. So we're excited to
it's part of this the Streate celebration next week, and we.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Want to remind people that the wonderful thing about this
incredible music celebration is that it is free and it's
going to be in spectacular surroundings in terms of the
Garfield Park Conservatory, which is located at three hundred North
Central Park Avenue in the Horticultural Hall, and it takes
place from six to seven thirty pm. Once again free
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to the public, but you do ask that people register
in advance.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Correct Howard, absolutely corrected.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They would go to the Garfield Park Conservatory website don't
get all the information right there where they can register
in free tickets and come out and have a wonderful
musical experience next week.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And you being an incredible music treasurer here in Chicago,
not only as a composer or a classically trained and performer,
but also jazz perfectionist. And you even did the music
for the theme show I co hosted for several years
with Deborah Crable, the showcase you did the theme music
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for that. I'm grateful for your contributions. But at the
same time, I think about Chicago and this year's celebration
in particular because Chicago is going to be on full
blast this coming International Jazz Week because of Herbie Hancock
and also Kurt Ellen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, very good point to Chicagoans, who if they say
they didn't get where they came from, they've gone.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
On and made an impact in the world.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And again they're known and respected all over the world
because they're the great music and yet they're still able
to arrange for the celebration to be headquartered here. Now
there will be concerts all over the world again at
the same day, which will be celebrated on that Thursday,
the thirtieth, So in all over Europe, Africa, Asia, there
will be jazz concerts celebrating this wonderful music. But however,
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again Chicago will be the headquarters. And there'll be a
major concert on the thirtieth next Thursday at the Civic
Opera House, which will I believe extreamed all over the
world as well and Herbie and they'll be hosting other
jazz giants Esperansis Baldan and while many others who will
be here at that particular concert. So but yeah, Chicago
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is going to be the center of the universe for
music and jazz next week.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, the thing that I really appreciate is that it's
the city is saying, hey, this is something we helped
create and help give to the world. But you don't
have to give of your money, which is tight all
the way around. Right now, all you have to do
is show up. Show up on April twenty eighth at
the Garfield Park Conservatory.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right And thank you so much SDARRO for helping us
spare the words and always being a support of our organization,
Chicago Community Music Center and all the arts. You you
are a great supporter and we really appreciate that. And
just one final thing. Another great point of the so activity,
they're really into the young people stud uh from all
over in various ways. They'll be activities at schools for
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students to be able to come out to the concerts
as well. They're carrying on it the tradition of this
great music. So that is so wonderful that things were
structured specifically to be able to encourage, expose and support
the young jazz musicians and those who are interested in
jazz as well.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The CWCMC Orchestra Community Orchestra is going to be performing
with musicians, young musicians that you have trained.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, sir, and we're so excited about that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And by being a community orchestra, we're very blessed to
have also some really solid musicians that you would know,
some expert professional musicians who will be sitting next to
many of these young students. And you know, we have
again a community orchestra. We've got three generations of families
participating in the orchestra. We've got the kids to their
parents and the grandparents all coming in and I tell
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you they're playing, they're planning some serious music there also.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well I forget also there is a special guest vocalist
one Miss Tammy McCann.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, sir, we well said, thank you Tammy. Another voice
that's heard all around the world, and she's going to
be bringing it that night. She's got a couple of pieces,
some things she's going to be doing as well as
telling the story. There's a little narration about the music
and the program she'll be giving throughout the evening, but
it's gonna be heavy on music and we're honored to
have her to come out and work with us as well,
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So it's going to be a night to remember.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Also, what is.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
The best way for people not only to support this effort,
but the tremendous work that you and your wife who
co founded it with you do with the Chicago West
Community Music Center.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Visit our website which is CWCMC dot org and there's
information about us. We'd love to invite everyone to come
out and see what we're doing in person. That means
coming out to some of our classes. We have a
number of events which will be coming up in a
fute and its future weeks. We'll have those listed on
our website as well, and we always welcome again any
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contributions that you want to helps up financially, They're always welcome.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They'll put the good use site. We assure you that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Visit our website and to find out what's going on
and come out and visitors and come out to the
concert next to the we I guarantee you all have
a great time. It's actually the language of jazz, right,
being able to communicate, come together and do things better.
So we are thoroughly excited about continuing working with our
kids in particular and the community.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And it's it's a joy to be able to do
this every day. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's what we want everybody to come out to the
World Jazz Celebration given by the Chicago West Community Music
Center on April twenty eighth at Garfield Park Conservatory. Simply
go to their website to get tickets for that free event.
How we thank you so much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
My pleasure. Thank you so much. Well.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
College education offers significant long term benefits, including almost a
ninety percent higher medium lifetime income and have the unemployment
rate of high school graduates. The bottom line is a
college education pays off. Yet, despite the proven benefits of
a college education, many programs which are designed to help
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people enroll and graduate from college are facing drastic cuts.
Joining me this morning to discuss those cuts as well
as what can be done to prevent them from happening,
is Bernard Clay. He is the executive director of Introspect
Youth Services. Bernard, always a pleasure to talk to you.
First of all, talk about what Introspect Youth Services is
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and just how many people you've helped get into college.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Introspect Youth Services is a community based organization that focuses
on pre collegiate development of students. We've been operating programs
to help kids get into post secondary institutions for the
last fifty years. We served twenty five hundred kids young
adults each year on Chicago's West Side. We provide campus
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visits through our upper Bound and Talent Search programs. We
provide college tourists, We provide tutoring, and the number of
services designed to help students get to and be successful
in post secondary institution.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I would be remiss if I didn't say that I
am a beneficiary of upward Bound programs in terms of
allowing me to be the first person in my extended
family to graduate from college. And I know the value
of it. And you literally are responsible through introspect in
terms of tens of thousands of people having the opportunity
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to go to college and increase the income as well
as contribution potential to this country that we love dearly.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yes, and that's one of the reasons why we came
on this morning is because one of our programs, of
the eight Trio programs that the government funds, is called
Talent Search. And right now that program is under attack.
The Department of Education and the Department of Labor is
trying to make that an employment program. And it was
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never designed to be employment. It was designed to be
that first safety net program to help kids get directly
into college. And it's been operating through a number of
agencies in Chicago for more than almost sixty years.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know, there are about eight agencies now. The oldest agency,
of course, is ADA S McKinley. And most of your
listeners would remember a gentleman by the name of Silas
Barnell who helped countless of individuals getting to college.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well, it was of yours right.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He operated a talent search program that ADA S McKinley.
And in addition to Aida S McKinley is a knock
at the door, the Black United Fund, Build Family Legacy Foundation,
A number of community based organizations operate those programs, and
they're the first program run to get the kids and
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take them to colleges, help them complete forms, make home
visits to help their parents go through the financial aid
forms and complete them fairly, and then follow them all
the way to the college door to help them be successful.
And there's these programs that you know that are under attack.
Right now, we're completing the applications, but it's sending the
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programs in a whole new direction of doing employment rather
than pre college activities.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Now. The reality is is that for decades it was
just automatic that these programs, given their success rate, were
always funded. It's only over the last year or two
that there have been draconian cutbacks to these programs that
you're talking about, so much so that they literally had
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their funding cut. But Congress fortunately did the right thing
and restored it for twenty six. But twenty twenty seven
it looks like it's back in play again.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yes, the President has issued a budget last month that
zeros out the funding for TRIO. The only saving grace
we have in Congress, the Senators and the representatives put
it back into the budget, so that we're asking all
of our constituency to write to their congressman, right to
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their senators and ask them that they restore the TRIO
funding in the fiscal year twenty seven budget.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now, we know that people are listening right now and
they're going what is TRIO? We described the programs associated
with TRIO, But is there a document that they can
just pull down or a number that they can call
that has already prepared what specifically to ask for.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yes, they can go to introspect Youth dot org and
we have a letter online that they can write their
kind congressmen. Use that and right to their congressman or
to their senator and ask them to restore the TRIO funding.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And that's introspect Youth dot org and they'll be able
to do that. You know, Bernard, you just celebrated fifty
years of doing this work. You're responsible for tens of
thousands of kids going to college and getting a college education.
Why do you continue to do what you do and
talk about in terms of this new reality that we're facing.
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How does it make you feel having labored in the
vineyard for so long?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
It makes you feel almost terrible at times. I mean,
we've done so much.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
One of the things that you said early alluded to
is a higher education changes everything. It's not only a
college degree. We put kids into vocational and training programs.
Higher education changes everything. I mean, we've got electricians that
we put into apprenticeship programs. We have done a lot
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of kids into vocational programs, electrical technology programs. But you
can literally see the difference. You see, kids that you
send off the college as teenagers, they come back as
an adult and they're really, really ready to contribute to
their community. You know, that's the important legacy that we
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have from these programs, and no one thought that they
would be around for fifty years. But you know, nationwide,
over twelve million students have benefited from the twelve different
programs that you know, the upward Bound, the upward Bound
Math and Science, the McNair program, the student support services
when they're in college, they help them onward college, and
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then of course the veterans, upward Bound and the Educational
Opportunity Centers. These programs have been the lifeline to get
young adults into college. We serve kids that are homeless
going to college, kids who are have mill insecurity and
unstable housing. Those students have been able to lift their
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family income just by getting a higher education and skills
that are marketable that they can get a job or
either start a business in their community.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We have to issue this clarion call here once again.
The program is called Trio. It's t r Io and
all you have to do to find out how to
support it, and as the good representatives in Congress to
restore funding for fiscal year twenty twenty seven is simply
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go to introspect youth dot org. That is, I N
t r O spec t youth dot org. Just be
sure to do what you need to do, because even
as United Negro College Fund says, a mind is a
terrible thing to waste, and here's an organization that has
been cultivating minds for success for decades. We need to
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restore this funding. Final word, Bernard.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yes, we like to suggest say that Trio work.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Trio does work, works for me, you and the country.
You got the trifecta right there, be sure to support it.
Bernard Clay, We thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Us this morning.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Chicago is known for many things, including al Capone deep
Dish Pizza, the Bears, Bulls, Black Hawks, Cubs, White Sox,
and Fire. Yet the city is also the birthplace of
many trail blazing individuals. Joining us this morning to talk
about a unique bus tour that gives visitors guided tours
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of the birthplace of many of the areas that have
been traditionally neglected is Sherman Dillar Thomas, as well as
our intern with Northwestern University, Samuel Osario. It is a pleasure,
Sharan to welcome you back to the program. Always fascinated
by your history in terms of becoming just this social
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media phenomenon. Tell me about how that started and then
we'll get into Mahogany Tours.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Hey, good to be talking to you, brother than Ore.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And Yeah, this new journey I'm on kind of started
by I guess accident, right. We were all stuck in
the house during the pandemic, and so I started a
TikTok channel to promote Chicago history along with my daughter.
It was a real reason I started, but you know,
TikTok was this new thing. I wanted to have my
kids learning if they were going to have the screens
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in their faces all day. So it just started like
telling these what I thought were common Chicago history stories
that I grew up here in about or that I've studied,
and it turned into something really really cool and very
very happy that I made that decision.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
You've won an Emmy Award because of your broadcast in
terms of telling she I go history. Did you ever
dream that you know this was going to be your calling?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I wish I was smart enough to have had this
as a dream, and then that way I could be
running around here like, yeah, I fulfill my dream. I've
always been very interested in history, and particularly Chicago history,
and I've always fancied myself as someone that could tell
other people what to see in Chicago. But I, in
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no shape, form or fashion thought that this would be
hown feeding my family. If I'm honest, I'm it's extremely lucky, right, Like,
I know, besides all the craft that goes with business, right,
paperwork and taxes and all that other kind of stuff,
But beyond that, I don't work, right, I'm doing what
I love every day, and I would be doing this
for free.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So that's what makes it really really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
In a sense with doing it for free. Because when
you came up with the idea of recording yourself on TikTok.
You initially weren't getting any money for that. That was
to inspire your child, not a.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Sin in tons of hours.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
You know, when I go to school to talk to
young people and they asked me similar questions, right, you know,
how did your page go viral?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And this, that and there?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
And I always tell them, you know, I did the
ten thousand man hours before any success came, and that
that usually helps you sustain success when you're willing to
do it for free.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Talk to me about the genesis. I remember when you
first launched Mahogany Tours. I had you on in terms
of trying to promote the event itself. But what was
the genesis for Mahogany Bus Tours.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Well, you know I looked at first when I was
doing the videos, people would often ask me, would I
be interested in doing a virtual tour?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Right doing Zoom lunch.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And learn, because all of this was during the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, But you know I looked and I still
saw people going out and to joint things just you know,
I'll be able a mask in social distancing. So and
I thought that that doing virtual tours in the South
and West. It allows people to not really feel the
South and west side. So you can learn that doctor
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King lived in North Lindale, or you can go online
and see, you know, the building Fred Hampton was killed in.
If you don't go over there and see the neighborhood
and see what those legacies left behind, you know, it's
really performative. And so that was the genesis, right, I
want to we need our small businesses on the south
and west side and the North Side to thrive. And
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the only way we can do that is if people
find value in those spaces. And I've come to discover
that history and the historic perspectives help bring that value
to spaces.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So that's really what got me started.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
You know, I just wanted people to understand that there's
value in these places in history, and the best way
to discover it is to come there physically.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And talk about some of the places that you take
visitors too.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh man, man, now you got me giving away my
secret sauce. But you know, it just depends on the neighborhood, right.
Taking people out in Humble Park yesterday and you know,
we go by Division Street, we talk about the flags
and how Puerto Ricans were placed pushed out of Lincoln Park,
and so that's why they planted the flags and Humble
parks to show they were gonna be moved again. But
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we go by the house that Frank Obama wrote Wizard
of Oz. You know we're in Chatham, right, we we
take you by Thomas Dorsey's house, he was on Walbash.
We take you by Mahela Jackson's house, she lived on Indiana.
We uh check you by George Johnson's house, right, he
gives us Afrosen and s curl. If we're in North Linde,
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we may visit the Sears robut campus and talk about
how back of the day you can order a house.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Out of that dang on mill or catalog.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But you know also how Sears was very early to
hire in blacks executives on the other powerful warehouses, the
Marshall Fields and the Montgomery Wars, that that wasn't even
a thought for them, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
If we're at the Rose and Walk homes, yeah, you
know like in Bronxville.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yes, sir, so we we we lift up those type
of spaces, right if we're in if we're in Pullman,
we're talking about you know that being one of the
first Plan, industrial workers towns and the architectures Solid and Beaman.
But we're also going by, you know, going in and
Brooks and talking about that history is Mendel So so
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you know, we lift up a lot of Chicago stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, cham yell, I know that you have a question.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yes, right on, I was listening. I was really intrigued
by by what you were saying about the Puerto Ricans
off by Lincoln Park. I didn't know that story. Could
you laborate little on that?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah? Absolutely, so, yeah, you know you I don't know
if you had a chance.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
To be there to visit Puerto Rico or not with
Gene Nevin your life heard of Puerto Rican with the
last name of Humble, right, you know that's not a
Latino Hispanic name. It is a German name, and that
was a German community. When the Puerto Rican started coming
to Chicago and droves in the forties fifties, they initially
land in Lincoln Park. So you know, south of North Avenue,
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all of you stretched down to maybe about Armatage and
from you know, shoot Clark Street dang there to getting
close to like Houston. Right, that was a thriving, growing
Puerto Rican community. But as they as the population of
Puerto Ricans grew, they started to get closer and closer
to the Gold Coast. And our mari at the time
was Richard J.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Daly.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
He didn't want He thought that wasn't a good thing
to have, you know, Puerto Ricans so close to.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The Mad Mile, and so he had.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
He bought up a bunch of you know what was stable,
low gering housing and he knocked it down and he
built this thing called Carl Sandberg Village is still standing today,
but it was priced at a point toward the Puerto
Ricans who lived there couldn't anymore, and so they have
to move to the other side of Western on Division Street.
And what was over there was a shifting demographic, right,
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so the Polish and German dudes were leaving and that
vacancy was open, and that allowed the Puerto Ricans to
move into that neighborhood. But then later gentrification tried to
push them out again.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
And that's when people who like the organizers of.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
The National Puerto Rican Heart this museum, they started to
really really galvanize the community. They create Passe, which is
the only official Puerto Rican neighborhood in America and they
plant their flags over there showing that they won't be
pushed out in fifty years.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's a wonderful story. What is the best way for
people to find out more about these tours?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Oh easy?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
You can follow me on all platforms six figure, deal
of the number, six.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
FI, g GA, Underscore, d I L l A.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I'm on everything LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all of the
same name, and that's typically the venue we use to
promote the tours.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And you can also book neighborhood tours.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I mean, even if you think you know everything about Chicago,
if I actually what's the three white stripes on the
Chicago flag, you ain't gonna know it. So come on
learn learn more about the city we all love. You
can book tours at Chicago Mahogany doc.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The thing I want people to understand is that here's
this love for history that is bearing fruit. Feel that
there's no value in it, but people who do not
know their history are doomed to repeat the bad parts
of it very much.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
So you know, history, it isn't just this far off thing, right,
It's a blueprint, and yes there's value to it, right,
we're seeing that right now.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a woodline or in South Shore.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
As the Obama Presidential Center comes online, more and more
developers are going to be going over there to try
to build out. And those of us who know the
history of the space can position ourselves to see what
the neighborhood needs to be protective of the long term
residents so that they don't get priced out. Like there's
so many lessons and adaptable tools. And the other thing
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that I will remind us all is that no matter
what you're dreaming is it still falls into history. If
you want to play in the NBA, your best bet
at doing that is to follow the history of somebody
else who has already made it. If brother Darrel Denard
is getting ready to be the next Jack Cooper, America's
first black DJ, right, how he got to be an
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ordinary on air personality, It's how we have the legendary
Darrel Denard on our airways today.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So you know, history is a powerful tool.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And we want to thank Sherman Dilla Thomas. I told
him this last time, it's six figured Dilla, but no, man,
we got to go for seven eight Figurdilla.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Man. My kids would love that. I told all of
them not this morning to something they was big. From
your lips to God.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Ears, Amen, Samuel and Sherman. We definitely appreciate you joining
us this morning.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Thank you well.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
There was a lot of information that we passed on
to you today. Please don't forget to attend the Chicago
West Community Center's free International Jazz Day concert, as well
as contact you're congressional representative about the proposed funding cuts
to the TRIO program. And also, if you happen to
be an artist or a creative or someone who wants
to support the art, please make sure that you get
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in contact with Arts Alliance Illinois. They are worth the visit.
That wraps up this edition of Chicago Insight and Closing.
Please take advantage of the useful information that we presented today.
I'm Darryl Dinard always remembered to use informed inside in
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About the institutions as well as the individuals who are
doing extraordinary things in our cities and communities. We begin
this morning introducing you to an individual who has dedicated
his life to music and the teaching of music to
young people on Chicago's West Side. His name is Howard Sandefer,
and he is the co founder of the Chicago West
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Community Music Center. In honor of International Jazz Day. In
honor of International Jazz Day, his Community Orchestra is conducting
a free music concert at the beautiful Garfield Park Conservatory
on April twenty eighth. We'll get the details. We'll also
learn about the devastating effect of potential funding cuts to
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one of the most successful education programs around the TRIO
programs will talk about what can be done to prevent
the budget and program cuts, and we'll close out our
conversations this morning learning about Arts Alliance, a program dedicated
to promoting the arts and artists in the state of Illinois.
So there is a lot of important to hear about
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this morning, and we begin with a free music concert
in honor of the art form known as jazz. Chicago
is known for many things, from Deep Dish pizza to
the Chicago blues and you have to throw in their
Chicago jazz. This year and celebration of the fifteenth annual
International Jazz Day, the Chicago West Community Music Center presents
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a Chicago World Jazz Celebration. Joining me this morning is
the co founder of the Chicago West Community Music Center,
Howard Sanderfer. Howard, always a pleasure to.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Talk to you.
Speaker 1 (01:35):
Tell me about this year's fifteenth Annual International Jazz Day
Celebration concert.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
First of all, it's always great to speak with you, Darryl,
Thank you so much. And here we all are excited
about this event coming up. In fact, the week next
week will be a week full of Chicago jazz, international jazz,
whatever artists, particularly Chicago artists who will be performing at
various venus North Side, Soide, West Side and playing the
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music which is always say eminating out of Chicago in
the early days and still eminating throughout the world Chicago
jazz and so in particular our orchestra in the Chicago
West Community Music Center orchestra, we're excited to be doing
a concert on.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Next Tuesday evening, April.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Twenty eighth, at the Garfield Park Conservatory and.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Our concert is titled Chicago to the world.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
A jazz celebration, and there we're going to be celebrating
the music and taking the listeners on a chronological journey
through the history of Chicago's jazz. As you know we've
discussed this before. We're going to start with the music
of the great Lewis Armstrong.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
We'll continue up and talking to King Oliver.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
We got to give King Oliver the credit because he's
the guy that brought Lewis.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Here absolutely rightly. Seventeenth, nineteen twenty two. At the behest
of King Oliver, Lewis Armstrong, who was his protege, came
up from Louis, New Orleans to Chicago and changed used
the face of music, not just popular music, jazz music,
but music. Louis Armstrong came in and the rest of
his history. They say he started playing a style of
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music that hadn't been heard before, particularly in Chicago, and
influenced so many artists here in Chicago, and that music
continued to grow and develop, as we say with ear
He worked with Earl Father Hines and even had some
young guys from the West Side of Chicago called the
Austin High Gang, who we used to come out there
were actually Austin high school students. They would come out
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at nighttime on the South Side to check out these
great musicians and come back on the West Side and
develop their music and their art became very influential jazz
musicians as well. We've got to explore the music of
all these great artists Oscar Brown Junior, Donald Washington, not
King Cole, Great Yancock, Ramsey Lewis. It goes on and on,
and we still have some young artists today who are
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music is being performed and heard around the world, still
influenced in the world of music. So we're excited to
it's part of this the Streate celebration next week, and we.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Want to remind people that the wonderful thing about this
incredible music celebration is that it is free and it's
going to be in spectacular surroundings in terms of the
Garfield Park Conservatory, which is located at three hundred North
Central Park Avenue in the Horticultural Hall, and it takes
place from six to seven thirty pm. Once again free
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to the public, but you do ask that people register
in advance.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Correct Howard, absolutely corrected.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They would go to the Garfield Park Conservatory website don't
get all the information right there where they can register
in free tickets and come out and have a wonderful
musical experience next week.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
And you being an incredible music treasurer here in Chicago,
not only as a composer or a classically trained and performer,
but also jazz perfectionist. And you even did the music
for the theme show I co hosted for several years
with Deborah Crable, the showcase you did the theme music
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for that. I'm grateful for your contributions. But at the
same time, I think about Chicago and this year's celebration
in particular because Chicago is going to be on full
blast this coming International Jazz Week because of Herbie Hancock
and also Kurt Ellen.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Yes, very good point to Chicagoans, who if they say
they didn't get where they came from, they've gone.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
On and made an impact in the world.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
And again they're known and respected all over the world
because they're the great music and yet they're still able
to arrange for the celebration to be headquartered here. Now
there will be concerts all over the world again at
the same day, which will be celebrated on that Thursday,
the thirtieth, So in all over Europe, Africa, Asia, there
will be jazz concerts celebrating this wonderful music. But however,
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again Chicago will be the headquarters. And there'll be a
major concert on the thirtieth next Thursday at the Civic
Opera House, which will I believe extreamed all over the
world as well and Herbie and they'll be hosting other
jazz giants Esperansis Baldan and while many others who will
be here at that particular concert. So but yeah, Chicago
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is going to be the center of the universe for
music and jazz next week.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Well, the thing that I really appreciate is that it's
the city is saying, hey, this is something we helped
create and help give to the world. But you don't
have to give of your money, which is tight all
the way around. Right now, all you have to do
is show up. Show up on April twenty eighth at
the Garfield Park Conservatory.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right And thank you so much SDARRO for helping us
spare the words and always being a support of our organization,
Chicago Community Music Center and all the arts. You you
are a great supporter and we really appreciate that. And
just one final thing. Another great point of the so activity,
they're really into the young people stud uh from all
over in various ways. They'll be activities at schools for
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students to be able to come out to the concerts
as well. They're carrying on it the tradition of this
great music. So that is so wonderful that things were
structured specifically to be able to encourage, expose and support
the young jazz musicians and those who are interested in
jazz as well.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The CWCMC Orchestra Community Orchestra is going to be performing
with musicians, young musicians that you have trained.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yes, sir, and we're so excited about that.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
And by being a community orchestra, we're very blessed to
have also some really solid musicians that you would know,
some expert professional musicians who will be sitting next to
many of these young students. And you know, we have
again a community orchestra. We've got three generations of families
participating in the orchestra. We've got the kids to their
parents and the grandparents all coming in and I tell
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you they're playing, they're planning some serious music there also.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Well I forget also there is a special guest vocalist
one Miss Tammy McCann.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yes, sir, we well said, thank you Tammy. Another voice
that's heard all around the world, and she's going to
be bringing it that night. She's got a couple of pieces,
some things she's going to be doing as well as
telling the story. There's a little narration about the music
and the program she'll be giving throughout the evening, but
it's gonna be heavy on music and we're honored to
have her to come out and work with us as well,
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So it's going to be a night to remember.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Also, what is.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
The best way for people not only to support this effort,
but the tremendous work that you and your wife who
co founded it with you do with the Chicago West
Community Music Center.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Visit our website which is CWCMC dot org and there's
information about us. We'd love to invite everyone to come
out and see what we're doing in person. That means
coming out to some of our classes. We have a
number of events which will be coming up in a
fute and its future weeks. We'll have those listed on
our website as well, and we always welcome again any
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contributions that you want to helps up financially, They're always welcome.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
They'll put the good use site. We assure you that.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Visit our website and to find out what's going on
and come out and visitors and come out to the
concert next to the we I guarantee you all have
a great time. It's actually the language of jazz, right,
being able to communicate, come together and do things better.
So we are thoroughly excited about continuing working with our
kids in particular and the community.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And it's it's a joy to be able to do
this every day. Man.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
That's what we want everybody to come out to the
World Jazz Celebration given by the Chicago West Community Music
Center on April twenty eighth at Garfield Park Conservatory. Simply
go to their website to get tickets for that free event.
How we thank you so much for joining us this morning.
Speaker 2 (09:44):
My pleasure. Thank you so much. Well.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
College education offers significant long term benefits, including almost a
ninety percent higher medium lifetime income and have the unemployment
rate of high school graduates. The bottom line is a
college education pays off. Yet, despite the proven benefits of
a college education, many programs which are designed to help
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people enroll and graduate from college are facing drastic cuts.
Joining me this morning to discuss those cuts as well
as what can be done to prevent them from happening,
is Bernard Clay. He is the executive director of Introspect
Youth Services. Bernard, always a pleasure to talk to you.
First of all, talk about what Introspect Youth Services is
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and just how many people you've helped get into college.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Good morning.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Introspect Youth Services is a community based organization that focuses
on pre collegiate development of students. We've been operating programs
to help kids get into post secondary institutions for the
last fifty years. We served twenty five hundred kids young
adults each year on Chicago's West Side. We provide campus
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visits through our upper Bound and Talent Search programs. We
provide college tourists, We provide tutoring, and the number of
services designed to help students get to and be successful
in post secondary institution.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
I would be remiss if I didn't say that I
am a beneficiary of upward Bound programs in terms of
allowing me to be the first person in my extended
family to graduate from college. And I know the value
of it. And you literally are responsible through introspect in
terms of tens of thousands of people having the opportunity
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to go to college and increase the income as well
as contribution potential to this country that we love dearly.
Speaker 5 (11:44):
Yes, and that's one of the reasons why we came
on this morning is because one of our programs, of
the eight Trio programs that the government funds, is called
Talent Search. And right now that program is under attack.
The Department of Education and the Department of Labor is
trying to make that an employment program. And it was
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never designed to be employment. It was designed to be
that first safety net program to help kids get directly
into college. And it's been operating through a number of
agencies in Chicago for more than almost sixty years.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Now.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You know, there are about eight agencies now. The oldest agency,
of course, is ADA S McKinley. And most of your
listeners would remember a gentleman by the name of Silas
Barnell who helped countless of individuals getting to college.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Well, it was of yours right.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
He operated a talent search program that ADA S McKinley.
And in addition to Aida S McKinley is a knock
at the door, the Black United Fund, Build Family Legacy Foundation,
A number of community based organizations operate those programs, and
they're the first program run to get the kids and
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take them to colleges, help them complete forms, make home
visits to help their parents go through the financial aid
forms and complete them fairly, and then follow them all
the way to the college door to help them be successful.
And there's these programs that you know that are under attack.
Right now, we're completing the applications, but it's sending the
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programs in a whole new direction of doing employment rather
than pre college activities.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Now. The reality is is that for decades it was
just automatic that these programs, given their success rate, were
always funded. It's only over the last year or two
that there have been draconian cutbacks to these programs that
you're talking about, so much so that they literally had
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their funding cut. But Congress fortunately did the right thing
and restored it for twenty six. But twenty twenty seven
it looks like it's back in play again.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Talk about that.
Speaker 5 (14:05):
Yes, the President has issued a budget last month that
zeros out the funding for TRIO. The only saving grace
we have in Congress, the Senators and the representatives put
it back into the budget, so that we're asking all
of our constituency to write to their congressman, right to
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their senators and ask them that they restore the TRIO
funding in the fiscal year twenty seven budget.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Now, we know that people are listening right now and
they're going what is TRIO? We described the programs associated
with TRIO, But is there a document that they can
just pull down or a number that they can call
that has already prepared what specifically to ask for.
Speaker 5 (14:51):
Yes, they can go to introspect Youth dot org and
we have a letter online that they can write their
kind congressmen. Use that and right to their congressman or
to their senator and ask them to restore the TRIO funding.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And that's introspect Youth dot org and they'll be able
to do that. You know, Bernard, you just celebrated fifty
years of doing this work. You're responsible for tens of
thousands of kids going to college and getting a college education.
Why do you continue to do what you do and
talk about in terms of this new reality that we're facing.
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How does it make you feel having labored in the
vineyard for so long?
Speaker 5 (15:36):
It makes you feel almost terrible at times. I mean,
we've done so much.
Speaker 4 (15:41):
You know.
Speaker 5 (15:41):
One of the things that you said early alluded to
is a higher education changes everything. It's not only a
college degree. We put kids into vocational and training programs.
Higher education changes everything. I mean, we've got electricians that
we put into apprenticeship programs. We have done a lot
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of kids into vocational programs, electrical technology programs. But you
can literally see the difference. You see, kids that you
send off the college as teenagers, they come back as
an adult and they're really, really ready to contribute to
their community. You know, that's the important legacy that we
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have from these programs, and no one thought that they
would be around for fifty years. But you know, nationwide,
over twelve million students have benefited from the twelve different
programs that you know, the upward Bound, the upward Bound
Math and Science, the McNair program, the student support services
when they're in college, they help them onward college, and
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then of course the veterans, upward Bound and the Educational
Opportunity Centers. These programs have been the lifeline to get
young adults into college. We serve kids that are homeless
going to college, kids who are have mill insecurity and
unstable housing. Those students have been able to lift their
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family income just by getting a higher education and skills
that are marketable that they can get a job or
either start a business in their community.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
We have to issue this clarion call here once again.
The program is called Trio. It's t r Io and
all you have to do to find out how to
support it, and as the good representatives in Congress to
restore funding for fiscal year twenty twenty seven is simply
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go to introspect youth dot org. That is, I N
t r O spec t youth dot org. Just be
sure to do what you need to do, because even
as United Negro College Fund says, a mind is a
terrible thing to waste, and here's an organization that has
been cultivating minds for success for decades. We need to
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restore this funding. Final word, Bernard.
Speaker 5 (18:06):
Yes, we like to suggest say that Trio work.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Trio does work, works for me, you and the country.
You got the trifecta right there, be sure to support it.
Bernard Clay, We thank you so much for joining.
Speaker 2 (18:19):
Us this morning.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Chicago is known for many things, including al Capone deep
Dish Pizza, the Bears, Bulls, Black Hawks, Cubs, White Sox,
and Fire. Yet the city is also the birthplace of
many trail blazing individuals. Joining us this morning to talk
about a unique bus tour that gives visitors guided tours
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of the birthplace of many of the areas that have
been traditionally neglected is Sherman Dillar Thomas, as well as
our intern with Northwestern University, Samuel Osario. It is a pleasure,
Sharan to welcome you back to the program. Always fascinated
by your history in terms of becoming just this social
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media phenomenon. Tell me about how that started and then
we'll get into Mahogany Tours.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Hey, good to be talking to you, brother than Ore.
Speaker 6 (19:17):
And Yeah, this new journey I'm on kind of started
by I guess accident, right. We were all stuck in
the house during the pandemic, and so I started a
TikTok channel to promote Chicago history along with my daughter.
It was a real reason I started, but you know,
TikTok was this new thing. I wanted to have my
kids learning if they were going to have the screens
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in their faces all day. So it just started like
telling these what I thought were common Chicago history stories
that I grew up here in about or that I've studied,
and it turned into something really really cool and very
very happy that I made that decision.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
You've won an Emmy Award because of your broadcast in
terms of telling she I go history. Did you ever
dream that you know this was going to be your calling?
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You know?
Speaker 6 (20:06):
I wish I was smart enough to have had this
as a dream, and then that way I could be
running around here like, yeah, I fulfill my dream. I've
always been very interested in history, and particularly Chicago history,
and I've always fancied myself as someone that could tell
other people what to see in Chicago. But I, in
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no shape, form or fashion thought that this would be
hown feeding my family. If I'm honest, I'm it's extremely lucky, right, Like,
I know, besides all the craft that goes with business, right,
paperwork and taxes and all that other kind of stuff,
But beyond that, I don't work, right, I'm doing what
I love every day, and I would be doing this
for free.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
So that's what makes it really really cool.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
In a sense with doing it for free. Because when
you came up with the idea of recording yourself on TikTok.
You initially weren't getting any money for that. That was
to inspire your child, not a.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
Sin in tons of hours.
Speaker 6 (21:02):
You know, when I go to school to talk to
young people and they asked me similar questions, right, you know,
how did your page go viral?
Speaker 4 (21:09):
And this, that and there?
Speaker 6 (21:10):
And I always tell them, you know, I did the
ten thousand man hours before any success came, and that
that usually helps you sustain success when you're willing to
do it for free.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Talk to me about the genesis. I remember when you
first launched Mahogany Tours. I had you on in terms
of trying to promote the event itself. But what was
the genesis for Mahogany Bus Tours.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
Well, you know I looked at first when I was
doing the videos, people would often ask me, would I
be interested in doing a virtual tour?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Right doing Zoom lunch.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
And learn, because all of this was during the pandemic.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, But you know I looked and I still
saw people going out and to joint things just you know,
I'll be able a mask in social distancing. So and
I thought that that doing virtual tours in the South
and West. It allows people to not really feel the
South and west side. So you can learn that doctor
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King lived in North Lindale, or you can go online
and see, you know, the building Fred Hampton was killed in.
If you don't go over there and see the neighborhood
and see what those legacies left behind, you know, it's
really performative. And so that was the genesis, right, I
want to we need our small businesses on the south
and west side and the North Side to thrive. And
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the only way we can do that is if people
find value in those spaces. And I've come to discover
that history and the historic perspectives help bring that value
to spaces.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
So that's really what got me started.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
You know, I just wanted people to understand that there's
value in these places in history, and the best way
to discover it is to come there physically.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And talk about some of the places that you take
visitors too.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
Oh man, man, now you got me giving away my
secret sauce. But you know, it just depends on the neighborhood, right.
Taking people out in Humble Park yesterday and you know,
we go by Division Street, we talk about the flags
and how Puerto Ricans were placed pushed out of Lincoln Park,
and so that's why they planted the flags and Humble
parks to show they were gonna be moved again. But
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we go by the house that Frank Obama wrote Wizard
of Oz. You know we're in Chatham, right, we we
take you by Thomas Dorsey's house, he was on Walbash.
We take you by Mahela Jackson's house, she lived on Indiana.
We uh check you by George Johnson's house, right, he
gives us Afrosen and s curl. If we're in North Linde,
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we may visit the Sears robut campus and talk about
how back of the day you can order a house.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
Out of that dang on mill or catalog.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
But you know also how Sears was very early to
hire in blacks executives on the other powerful warehouses, the
Marshall Fields and the Montgomery Wars, that that wasn't even
a thought for them, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
If we're at the Rose and Walk homes, yeah, you
know like in Bronxville.
Speaker 6 (23:59):
Yes, sir, so we we we lift up those type
of spaces, right if we're in if we're in Pullman,
we're talking about you know that being one of the
first Plan, industrial workers towns and the architectures Solid and Beaman.
But we're also going by, you know, going in and
Brooks and talking about that history is Mendel So so
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you know, we lift up a lot of Chicago stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, cham yell, I know that you have a question.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yes, right on, I was listening. I was really intrigued
by by what you were saying about the Puerto Ricans
off by Lincoln Park. I didn't know that story. Could
you laborate little on that?
Speaker 4 (24:34):
Yeah? Absolutely, so, yeah, you know you I don't know
if you had a chance.
Speaker 6 (24:38):
To be there to visit Puerto Rico or not with
Gene Nevin your life heard of Puerto Rican with the
last name of Humble, right, you know that's not a
Latino Hispanic name. It is a German name, and that
was a German community. When the Puerto Rican started coming
to Chicago and droves in the forties fifties, they initially
land in Lincoln Park. So you know, south of North Avenue,
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all of you stretched down to maybe about Armatage and
from you know, shoot Clark Street dang there to getting
close to like Houston. Right, that was a thriving, growing
Puerto Rican community. But as they as the population of
Puerto Ricans grew, they started to get closer and closer
to the Gold Coast. And our mari at the time
was Richard J.
Speaker 4 (25:22):
Daly.
Speaker 6 (25:23):
He didn't want He thought that wasn't a good thing
to have, you know, Puerto Ricans so close to.
Speaker 4 (25:27):
The Mad Mile, and so he had.
Speaker 6 (25:30):
He bought up a bunch of you know what was stable,
low gering housing and he knocked it down and he
built this thing called Carl Sandberg Village is still standing today,
but it was priced at a point toward the Puerto
Ricans who lived there couldn't anymore, and so they have
to move to the other side of Western on Division Street.
And what was over there was a shifting demographic, right,
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so the Polish and German dudes were leaving and that
vacancy was open, and that allowed the Puerto Ricans to
move into that neighborhood. But then later gentrification tried to
push them out again.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
And that's when people who like the organizers of.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
The National Puerto Rican Heart this museum, they started to
really really galvanize the community. They create Passe, which is
the only official Puerto Rican neighborhood in America and they
plant their flags over there showing that they won't be
pushed out in fifty years.
Speaker 4 (26:25):
They haven't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
It's a wonderful story. What is the best way for
people to find out more about these tours?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Oh easy?
Speaker 6 (26:32):
You can follow me on all platforms six figure, deal
of the number, six.
Speaker 4 (26:37):
FI, g GA, Underscore, d I L l A.
Speaker 6 (26:40):
I'm on everything LinkedIn, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, all of the
same name, and that's typically the venue we use to
promote the tours.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
And you can also book neighborhood tours.
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I mean, even if you think you know everything about Chicago,
if I actually what's the three white stripes on the
Chicago flag, you ain't gonna know it. So come on
learn learn more about the city we all love. You
can book tours at Chicago Mahogany doc.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
The thing I want people to understand is that here's
this love for history that is bearing fruit. Feel that
there's no value in it, but people who do not
know their history are doomed to repeat the bad parts
of it very much.
Speaker 6 (27:20):
So you know, history, it isn't just this far off thing, right,
It's a blueprint, and yes there's value to it, right,
we're seeing that right now.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
It's a woodline or in South Shore.
Speaker 6 (27:31):
As the Obama Presidential Center comes online, more and more
developers are going to be going over there to try
to build out. And those of us who know the
history of the space can position ourselves to see what
the neighborhood needs to be protective of the long term
residents so that they don't get priced out. Like there's
so many lessons and adaptable tools. And the other thing
(27:53):
that I will remind us all is that no matter
what you're dreaming is it still falls into history. If
you want to play in the NBA, your best bet
at doing that is to follow the history of somebody
else who has already made it. If brother Darrel Denard
is getting ready to be the next Jack Cooper, America's
first black DJ, right, how he got to be an
(28:15):
ordinary on air personality, It's how we have the legendary
Darrel Denard on our airways today.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
So you know, history is a powerful tool.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
And we want to thank Sherman Dilla Thomas. I told
him this last time, it's six figured Dilla, but no, man,
we got to go for seven eight Figurdilla.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Man. My kids would love that. I told all of
them not this morning to something they was big. From
your lips to God.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
Ears, Amen, Samuel and Sherman. We definitely appreciate you joining
us this morning.
Speaker 4 (28:45):
Thank you well.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
There was a lot of information that we passed on
to you today. Please don't forget to attend the Chicago
West Community Center's free International Jazz Day concert, as well
as contact you're congressional representative about the proposed funding cuts
to the TRIO program. And also, if you happen to
be an artist or a creative or someone who wants
to support the art, please make sure that you get
(29:08):
in contact with Arts Alliance Illinois. They are worth the visit.
That wraps up this edition of Chicago Insight and Closing.
Please take advantage of the useful information that we presented today.
I'm Darryl Dinard always remembered to use informed inside in
iHeartRadio breaking news.
Speaker 7 (29:28):
President Trump is safe after confirmed the report of a
shooter at the White House Correspondence dinner in Washington, DC.
The event was taking place at the DC Hilton when
several loud bangs were heard from the lobby of the hotel.
The President versus Lady Vice President and other dignitaries were
then rushed out by secret service. A rep from the
(29:49):
dinner announced that the event will move forward following the disruption.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
More updates on this iHeartRadio station or anytime online at
iHeartRadio dot com.
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