What The Nutters Club wants you to be aware of

Mental Health Awareness Week has prompted a wave of discussions about the importance of mental health and practical strategies for improving wellbeing. ​The Nutters Club took the eve of the week to explore various approaches, from mindfulness to community connection, with listeners sharing personal insights and experiences of what they would like New Zealanders to be most aware of during this years awareness week.

The show highlighted the significance of small, everyday actions in fostering mental health. ​ Many callers emphasised the power of simple gestures, such as greeting strangers, smiling, or engaging in light conversation. ​These small acts of connection, they argued, can have a profound impact on both the giver and receiver. ​

One caller, a personal trainer, underscored the mental health benefits of physical activity, particularly weight training. He explained how exercise releases endorphins, the brain’s “feel-good” hormones, and provides a mental escape from daily stressors. ​ Another listener shared how repairing items and gardening offered a sense of accomplishment and mindfulness. ​

The Mental Health Foundation’s “Five Ways to Wellbeing” framework—give, connect, be active, keep learning, and take notice—was frequently referenced as a practical guide. It was also noted that activities like joining run clubs, reading books, or even watching uplifting movies align with these principles and can significantly enhance mental health. ​

Gratitude emerged as a recurring theme. ​Several participants shared how starting the day by reflecting on things they’re thankful for helps set a positive tone. ​However, Psychotherapist Kyle MacDonald cautioned that while self-directed strategies like gratitude and mindset shifts are valuable, they should not be imposed on others who may be struggling. ​

The show also addressed the challenges of systemic issues, such as access to mental health services. One caller highlighted the need for better support for individuals in emergency housing or those with complex needs, emphasising the importance of listening without judgment. Listeners were reminded that mental health struggles are diverse and that solutions must be tailored to individual circumstances. ​For those feeling overwhelmed, reaching out to professionals or helplines like 1737 was encouraged. ​

The discussions underscored the importance of community, empathy, and taking proactive steps to support mental health. As one caller aptly put it, “Treat everyone as you would someone with a broken arm—compassionately and without judgment.” ​

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:08):
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Speaker 2 (00:20):
Greetings and welcome. I'm Hamish Williams and you're listening to
the podcast version of The Mutters Club, a radio show
a broadcast on News Talk said B that talks about
mental health and shares helpful tips about how to live
with your own. The show is broadcast live on Sunday
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and around the world. This week there's New Zealand's Mental

(00:44):
Health Awareness Week and as such, we thought we would
get you, our audience to let us know what you
would like people to be aware of. Since two thousand
and nine, our audience has shared their stories of experiences
with mental health and with that in mind, we thought
you couldn't find a better group of topic experts. Let

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Speaker 3 (01:17):
That's Mental Health Awareness Week.

Speaker 2 (01:18):
And that's what we want to talk about tonight on
the show. So look Mental Health Awareness Week. It's a
bit of a funny one, and I guess I feel
funny about it. And I'll be honest about this is
because when we do this show, I feel like Mental
Health Awareness Week is every week. Yeah, However, that's not
kind of how it always works. And I guess you

(01:39):
know the general public, and sometimes it's good to actually
make an event or a week for awareness so that
people actually stop and have a listen. We want to
hear from you. What do you want New Zealanders to
be aware of when it comes to Mental Health Awareness Week?

(01:59):
What part of it do you want people to know about?
The second part? Tonight on the TV news, was watching
the Telly News and they headed story about potentially having
you know, could you you're the mental health benefits of fishing?

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Okay, and they were saying that they actually thought that
fishing should be prescribed.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Well, my business partner, who you know, Rob, he would
absolutely agree. He's a psychotherapist and a very avid fisherman,
a sweeze bine.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
What for mental health benefits?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
Yeah, absolutely, because it's actually kind of mindfulness, especially if
you don't catch anything, because if you think about it,
what are you doing? You're sitting on a boat, which
is always pretty nice, as I'm sure you would agree.
Out on the water. Yeah, you're sort of not doing
anything in a way, right, like you're you're doing an activity,
but you're doing something that actually, you know, you're not

(02:55):
on your phone, you're not reading a book, you're not
sort of you're actually just focusing on the line in
the water. And that's quite mindful. Okay, I see what
you're saying. Yeah, okay, so I can I can see
that probably would help people.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
So what I would love to hear from tonight is
what would you prescribe for people's mental health? And it
doesn't have to be anything, you know, like that, the
symptom doesn't have to be specific, it's just in general terms,
what would you prescribe for people's mental health? Now, just
a little parameter on this, no substance, legal or otherwise,

(03:30):
but I'm talking about, you know, would you prescribe say, yeah,
you know what, go fishing. Go fishing for a few
hours a week, that will really improve your mental health.
You know, I'll tell you a few things that I've
seen around the place that people I know is having
a positive impact on people's mental health at the moment.
Run clubs. Run clubs absolutely booming all over the country,

(03:53):
all over the world. Run clubs two things that you
have like physical activity and community. You know, you're running
as a pack and it's quite fun. A lot of
young people that they're doing and this is quite sweet.
They're doing a lot of a lot of singles and
meeting through run clubs.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Well, that's going to better than at a bar at
one o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Don't well, doing the old swipe left or swipe right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
And that it also fits into the you know what
we're talking about with the Mental Health Awareness Week this week,
which is the five Ways to well being, which is
give your time, your words, your present, be active. Run
club definitely fits into that, doesn't it. Keep learning, you know,
having new experiences. Perhaps you've never been a runner before
and you're join one of these run clubs, connecting with
others and taking notice and paying attention to the things

(04:34):
that bring you joy. So, you know, this is the
kind of things that we're talking about prescribing. What are
the things that actually you would from your own experience
advice someone else do to help with their mental health.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
I know books are a big one.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah, yeah, I love books. I love second hand box
in particular.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
Yeah, something about a pre loved book that you know
just has a different life of its own. It's been
somewhere before, its stories being told, and now it's your tea.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
You know.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
There's something about that, so you know it's not all physical.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
No, I'd prescribe cycling myself, and if you know cycling
feels that too much, I forget your help. An EU bike.
I love my e bike. It's a way to get
about without busting into a huge sweat. But actually you
still get the kind of the joy of riding a bike.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Uplifting movies. Yeah, you know, great bit of music. I
mean you may not know this about me, because I
know when you hear me on the radio, I probably
sound pretty rock and roll, at least that's what I
think I sound like in my head. But at home
during the day, especially when I'm working, I'd listened to
a lot of symphonies. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a sucker
for a symphony. And why because honestly, just the whole

(05:38):
mood of the environment on working becomes very calm, becomes
very serene. It's great. I would prescribe a good amount
of symphonies for your musical rotation.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
No prop I listened to a lot of classical music
and electronic music, but no vocals. Yeah, I was ye
when I was writing and studying, because it's the words
put off the part of your brain that's trying to
write the words.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
So tonight, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty, what would
you want New Zealand to be aware of this mental
health awareness week? And what would your prescription for better
mental health be. We're going to put all of your
suggestions together and put it as a bit of an
article which we'll be putting through to the news bosses

(06:23):
outside of the studio. Either way, we'll be putting it
together and we want your input, So look forward to
your ideas you've used tonight, O one hundred and eighty
teen eighty, will flick us a text nine two ninety
two back here shortly on Another's club. Need to leave
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Speaker 2 (08:47):
Nutters Club Now on News Talk z edb Hey, welcome
back to the show. Already getting a few texts in
Kyle about this. One says, jim work increases your endorphins,
which is the feel good or any type of exercise,
and listen to ZB to relax me. It's the only
station on my car radio. Mark, Okay, So that's one
for the gym and another one here about the gym

(09:07):
from and she just says body jam class at Les
Mills will fight the blues nice and body jam. I
think that's where it's kind of like high impact aerobic
so quite like high energy music. Probably not my symphonies.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
No, probably not the symphonies.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
No, no, Yeah, you might have a bit of a
bit of sweet symphony by the Verve, but maybe the
dance remakes. But no, okay. And this one about medication,
which I think is quite quite a good one, Melissa
just says, you know, in terms of what we'd want
people to know during Mental Health Awareness Week is medication
side effects and coming off long term medication too quickly.

(09:45):
And she says, I have a friend that's suffering badly
from this right now.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:49):
Look, I mean I we've said that it probably a million times,
but it's always worth repeating. You're more than entitled to
decide you don't want to take medication anymore or to
change medications. Please always do that with the advice of
your doctor, because they can be a bit rough to stop,
and so it's always good to get that support. And
just one thing on exercise, I think the most important
thing with exercise, and this might sound like a really

(10:11):
sort of obvious thing. Pick something you enjoy. I think
that's very very good. And in a way, it doesn't
matter what it is. It's just as long as it's
something you can keep doing.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Yeah, Consistency is probably the biggest thing when it comes
to exercise. You know, a classic one and you know,
I've been susceptible to this. And someone goes, let's go
for a walk tomorrow, and you go, We're not just
going to go for a walk. We're got for a
ten kill a meter walk. I mean, when was the
last time you went for a ten k walk? Well, well,
I go, but I used to do ten k runs

(10:44):
all the time and go, yeah fifteen years ago.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Yeah, it's like, just how about we just go for
a nice walk down to the coffee shop and bag
and but we'll do it again the next day and
the next day.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
Perfect, don't rush too.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Much, all right. Hey, look the calls are coming in
thick and fast. Good news. Let's go to the lines. Dan,
good evening to.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
You, Good evening.

Speaker 2 (11:06):
How are you today? I'm very good, Dan.

Speaker 9 (11:10):
Okay, I've got about three or four things that have
helped my mental health.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Go for it.

Speaker 4 (11:16):
Just disn't tee you very quickly.

Speaker 9 (11:19):
Number one is I always take my meds. Okay, I
don't skip on my meds, and that's helped me. Number two,
when I don't feel like doing something, when I feel
letharget and feel feeling blue, the thing that I don't

(11:42):
feel like doing, I do nice.

Speaker 4 (11:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, you force yourself to do that task that's linked,
you know, of daunting you and just get it out
of the way.

Speaker 9 (11:51):
Right, yes, And that makes me feel a lot better.
And number number three is I always like to stay
on top of my finances because a lot of people
who suffer from greece and anxiety, you'll find that if

(12:11):
they haven't got their finances right, it gives them something
else to worry about. Even if you have to go
to a budget advisor like I did, and they set
me up with a real good plan and it's working.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Really nicely, fantastic. And you know what you've done there, Dan,
You know, instead of sort of running away from the
problem or just be burying your head in the sand,
you've you've made a plan and you've you've gone and
actually got some help and some advice and been able
to put something into action. And it doesn't mean it's
all going to be easy sailing, but you know you've

(12:48):
you've you've put some time into it and that's just fantastic.

Speaker 9 (12:53):
And the last one is hang around with positive people.
I mean people who are going to have good input
into your life. You may only have one or two
or three French, but they are a lot. They are

(13:14):
worth a lot more than twenty friends who have not
got a positive thing to say about you.

Speaker 10 (13:24):
No.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
I agree, It's amazing how much we get influenced by
who we hang around. And you know, my son Danny,
he said to me a few years ago that he said,
what do you want to what do you want to
do when you grow up? And he says, I want
to be a tech millionaire. And I said to him,
you know what you don't want to do if you
want to be a tech millionaire And he said, what's that?
And I said, start hanging out with tech millionaires.

Speaker 4 (13:47):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 9 (13:48):
The birds of the Fever flopped together.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Absolutely. Yeah, Hey, Dan, that is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You think you're on top of it, well, I.

Speaker 9 (13:58):
Try and stay on top of it, but you know,
if I find myself slipping, I always come back to
those principles. You know that that gives you a good foundation,
and you're great. And the last thing I like to
say is learn to embrace what you've got. You know,

(14:23):
you may not have a job, you may not even
have your own house or whatever it is, but just
embrace what you've got. And once you embrace it, you'll
learn to love it. And you wouldn't want any other things.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Gratitude, Dan, gratitude, You're all over it.

Speaker 11 (14:44):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, thank you, Dan, And I'll tell you what I'm
grateful for having great callers like you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 3 (14:50):
That was brilliant, Yeah, jeers Dan, I mean I agree
with all of those things, especially the one about be
very thoughtful about who you spend your time with. What's
the old saying that you're the average of the five
people you spend the most time with. I always like
that as an idea to challenge yourself with the next
you take on the habits and beliefs and values of

(15:11):
the people you spend time with.

Speaker 2 (15:12):
God, it's terrifying considering I spend a bit of time
with you.

Speaker 3 (15:15):
There you go. It's only two hours a week, though,
so you probably reasonably.

Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yeah, no, but maybe I need to rethink. I've got
a really poignant text message here, and I really like it,
and I'm going to read it because it is actually important,
and I don't want it to seem as though we're
trivializing things too much. And that says, hey, guys, so
when are we going to get to the root cause
of things domestic violence and bullying? A good start? Running

(15:40):
all good, but not the solution long term, like how
do we change society? All very well, going for a run.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
But really, yeah, I really take the text's point and
I could probably talk about it for the rest of
the show, but I won't. But yes, you're absolutely right,
and you know, all of these things that we talk about,
these are skills and strategies that help might help lift
our mood or improve our well being in the short term.
But we shouldn't, for one moment minimize the fact that

(16:07):
if people are struggling to overcome trauma or poverty, or
deprivation or really tricky circumstances in their life, then obviously, yes,
they are going to need to do more than go
for a run. And that is when people like me kicking.
So you know, here's a really good prescription. Hamish if

(16:28):
you're listening right now and you feel like, actually, maybe
you've tried some of these things and you're still feeling
pretty overwhelmed, or actually you feel like things have been
getting worse for you and you're struggling to get out
of that hole, then maybe it's a good time to
reach out if you have never done this before, to
talk to someone who can help. One seven three seven
is a great place to start. The National Help Line,
or you might want to book yourself into see a

(16:49):
GP or a counselor in your local area, because yeah,
that helps too.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
And so I think, really what I'm hearing from the
text is to not lose sight that actually, when it
comes to mental health awareness, don't for a minute think
that the solution is simple or straightforward. No, sometimes it's
going to take a lot of time to be able
to find the solution that actually gives you the result
that you want.

Speaker 3 (17:14):
It might and the big question, of course, is what
do we do about all of this? Well, I mean, again,
you know that's that's probably beyond the time that we
have tonight. But I just want to say, hey, I
hear I think there's a lot of things we need
to fix in New Zealand that are causing the problems
we face.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Let's go back to the lines. A good long time
listener contributed and a performing guest on the show too.
Bronnie is on the line. Bronnie, good evening to you.

Speaker 12 (17:39):
Good avening.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
How are we are all the better for hearing your voice?

Speaker 13 (17:42):
Bronnie, Oh, thank you.

Speaker 12 (17:44):
That's nice to hear. Yeah, I've got I've got a
chucky situation and it is to do with mental health
and me been working in it too. I have a
I have a man who I've been seeing for two
years now and needing support yet mental help. He's been

(18:10):
checked in emergency housing. He has not been listened. Thank goodness,
I'm listening to him because I go and see him
every day. Otherwise he'd go absolutely berserk. He has got
a tendencies of violence. He has been put in prison
because no one want will listen to him. He has

(18:31):
also seek mental help, but everyone's trespassed him all that
type of thing. So where do you go when there
is two hard basket for someone who's been dumped in
emergency housing?

Speaker 4 (18:49):
How is he?

Speaker 12 (18:50):
How is he meant to get help? Yeah, he's been trespassed.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
It's a really important thing for us to be aware of,
which is one of the questions tonight, A Bronnie. I mean,
I wish, I know you've you talked about this chat before,
and I wish there were easy answers. But I think unfortunately,
when people are stuck in that situation, where they go
is probably people like you. Is the people that are
there who aren't in the official system, whether that be
you know, the city mission, or a helpful friend or

(19:16):
a support person, because as you say, that combination of
things is really hard. It's really hard when people's mental
health manifests in ways that scare other people and kind
of then they end up on the wrong list or
black marked in some way.

Speaker 12 (19:32):
Yeah, well, I see him. He's really trying. He's an
intelligent man. And I believe for anyone who's in this position,
you know, listening time, like you just said, time is
a big thing, but I mean being heard. I mean
that man said, you know, he went through getting help,

(19:53):
and he tried getting help, but everyone let him down,
or everyone put into medication, you know, or they already
judged him, you know, before actually knowing or listening to
whereas I did, and I went straight and I just
talked to him listen. So I mean it's approaching, I think,

(20:18):
but it's also not judging somebody in the mental health
is the biggest problem. You know, people have great which
you call it assumptions, assumptions and not knowing the facts
and people when you haven't got trusts, have been hurt

(20:42):
or been rejected or you know, all of that kind
of thing.

Speaker 4 (20:47):
It's huge.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
So there are a lot of things.

Speaker 3 (20:51):
Thank you so much for the work that you do, Bridie,
because you know it's wonderful. It's wonderful that you're there
to support them, I think, unfortunately, and I'm just going
to have a very brief rent, if it's okay. I
think you know, one of the things we've seen in
the last couple of weeks is the Ministry of Mental
Health coming out and say that the numbers are improving,
which is true, actually it is true. But what the

(21:12):
numbers say is and it's this old sort of thing
with policy and government work that the only thing that
matters is what you count, and what they're counting is
the number of people that are seen what you're seeing
with your chat, that you're looking after. And actually another
example is you know, the service seeger House. That we
lost here in Auckland is the high intensity, high investment

(21:33):
people that need a huge amount of input in to
say one person or one family. But the problem is
at the moment that just counts as one. So you know,
it's really frustrating because actually we're losing those services that
actually can help people who need that really high input.
And you know, I guess we are getting more people

(21:54):
seen at the front end, but who knows how that's
going to work out for them.

Speaker 12 (21:59):
Yeah, But you know, on the other side, I mean
for me, I want, I mean, I love to get
into pair support. It's what I'm absolutely passionate about now.
And I mean the more and more I'm coming along
with the emergency side, or the more and more people
are in need, of course, and definitely I'm getting that,

(22:22):
but I just don't get any avenues where I'm qualified.
Yes I've had my mental health issues, Yes I've had
my pass but I've also worked at it and I've
also realized that I have a lot of insight for
these people, and I mean I'm passionate and wanting them

(22:44):
to have the right support where there is needed, you know,
not just being passed off. You know, encouragement is the
hugest thing. Having something like that manset of previously having
something that you like is really important. Encouragement. I find

(23:05):
of so many people lacking and told, you know, you're
doing a good job, or you know, praise or having that.
Everyone's too negative and down, you know, I mean running
someone down. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yeah, I hear what you're saying, Brinnie, And I think
you know, the thing is is that there's no there's
no exclusivity or qualification needed to be encouraging and supportive
of other people in our communities or people around us,
just within our daily day lives. You know, make the
effort and just try and connect with people, which you

(23:43):
are doing. And I think that that's that's as much
as anyone could be expected to do. And sometimes I
think is as nice as that. When you do put
yourself out there as you do, people know how to
look for the helpers. They really do. It's it's a
funny thing that you will probably find that you actually
stick out more than you realize in all the best

(24:04):
way possible. So what I'm hearing from you to be
a of is actually make the effort if you're able
to be able to be there to help others. Thanks
very much for the call, Bronnie, welcome back to the show.
A few more texts. I just want to read quickly
in terms of things that Texas would like New Zealand

(24:25):
to be aware of this health wins we Jacko says,
I'd like to make tradees aware of mates and construction, talking,
exercise and remembering to do things for yourself. Great May says,
be emotionally brave and be your genuine self. I highly
agree with that. This Phil says, Hi, guys, something that's

(24:47):
good for mental health is a good laugh. Keeping Up
Appearances is a brilliant TV series from the nineties. Rip
the great Patricia Rutledge, who of course played Hyacinth Bouchane.

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Ah Yes, the Leader of the House speaking Richard, I
couldn't agree more about a good laugh. You know, it's
so easy when you're in not a great spot to
be drawn to watching things that might help you stay
in that great space. And if you flick onto Netflix
documentaries or war documentaries or think there's no shortage of
things that will keep you feeling miserable and worried and despairing,

(25:21):
try a comedy.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
Yeah, I mean, like all time favorite movie comedy for
me that I have revisited and takes me back to
being a teenager back in Otago. Super Troopers. Ah, yes,
if you've ever seen super Troopers, and the whole premise
is that they're on the they're in some I think
they're upstate New York or something, or Delaware or something

(25:44):
like that, and they're on the Canadian border and they're
just so bored, like there's nothing happening, and they're they're
they're highway troopers, you know, highway policeman, motorway cops basically,
and they've just got nothing to do, so they just
play pranks on themselves, each other, unsuspecting teenage kids, just

(26:06):
people who are passing by, just basically to kill the time.
Brilliant and it just cheers me up every time because
the whole thing is one big giant in joke. Yeah,
and they let you in nice. Yeah, nothing very serious
happens in it. Good laugh, perfect, exactly what you want.
Let's go back to the lines. Mark, good evening to you.

Speaker 4 (26:26):
Hey you go ahead, excuse me, sorry, Hey you guys.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Here doing Yeah, yeah, good good to hear. Mark.

Speaker 14 (26:33):
I've actually seen that movies super trivially.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
I was actually quite blessed.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
It's a good one, eh.

Speaker 14 (26:38):
It was funny, real funny. I'm a personal trainer at
David Telly's BB in juryman ding Eden.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oh fantastic, Yeah, fantastic man.

Speaker 14 (26:51):
Of their industry for over thirty years, so I've seen
a lot of us go on with depression and everything
like that. I mainly deal with teenagers through to forty
plus males, and most of them are looking to improve
your fitness and their wellbeing. And I'm also a wellbeing coach.

(27:14):
So the good thing about exercise and this those on
rugs pitching, but I focus on the weight training Disney.
There's brain releases and door themes, which is the feel
good hormone. When you are actually exercising right now, the

(27:34):
door things that are released into the brain make you
feel happy, make you feel relaxed. Also, the good thing
about coming into the gym is you leave the door,
everything at the door behind and you just spend that

(27:54):
time focusing on yourself and you forget about everything else
that's going on in the gym class. I also yeah,
plus I also mentor a couple of them young young
men in my office about their mental health problems. And

(28:18):
we're in a lot of time through the mental health
through because I also had a mental health issue, and
we also go sure and I give him the advice
what to do, what to say, what to say to
the ill friends, how to approach that nicely, have not
do not say that, do not say that, say this,

(28:40):
say that, and all those types of things. So I
think it was vitally important and benefit in the days.
I know the intricate ins and out on BBM and
his charity that he does.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
Yeah, we've had We've had Dave on the show many
many times over the years.

Speaker 14 (29:02):
Yeah. Yeah, he's a fantastic individual. So if anyone's overweight
or struggling in any way, you need to go to
BBM or out west here and I'm just on the
border of ben Needing and Newly and you need to

(29:25):
pop in there and just say I love it because
the community he has bought is phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. They
had all types of support there for you to help.
They have psychiatrists, they have doctors, they had everything. I mean,

(29:50):
I was a pro body building back at my day,
and I saw a lot of this depression with people
and what they are doing and training and trying to
get ready for it shows and that, and I had
to deal with all that.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Type of stuff.

Speaker 14 (30:08):
Well, so I've got a pretty good handle light everything.
But I really think anyone there is such depression that
they have a look at BBM. We'll go on their
website and they will guide you in the right direction.
It's invite and important that they do that, absolutely the
overweight people.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Yeah, fantastic Mark, and and also too, you know, I
do want to thank you for your time that you
put in there. You know, none of none of these
things happen with just one one person. That can start
with one person and everything does. But you know, Mark,
well done to all of your time, and thank you
so much. Yeah. Look, if anybody wants to search that up,

(30:49):
just go and put in those three magic letters BBM.
And there's all sorts of other bbms popping up around
the country of late actually too.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
Yeah, there are.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
So go and have a look if you're in the
especially the New Auckland area. I've got a text here
from Joe. Joe says, I'm thirty four years old. I've
just been diagnosed with a s D used to be
called ASPURGS. Yes, it makes total sense, but I'm fuming
in the mental health system since sixteen how my life
could have been different. So what I'm taking from Joe's

(31:21):
text here is just how difficult diagnosis can be sometimes.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
Yeah, look, it can do. And ASD stands for autism
spectrum disorder, which is the way that we now classify
anyone who has any kind of difficulty that we used
to talk about as autism or aspergers, which is a
funny term, but it was always kind of described as
high functioning autism, which was kind of a terrible way

(31:46):
of talking about it really because of what it implied.
So we now talk about autism spectrum disorders and that
people fall on a spectrum when it comes to their neurodiversity.
And yeah, look, I really take your point. I think
the thing that's really hard these days is we're learning
so much, so fast about neurodiversity, about autism, about ADHD

(32:07):
and disorders, that we're actually getting to the point now
where as you quite rightly say, you know a lot
of people who would never have been diagnosed or seen
through that lens ten twenty thirty years ago now are
so yeah, fair enough be annoyed. That's part of the
grief part of the change process, but also get the

(32:30):
support that you need, and it probably also helps to
start to frame some of your own thoughts about what
you need to move more comfortably in the world. Hopefully.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
Okay, let's go back to the call, shall we, Matthew,
good even to you.

Speaker 13 (32:45):
Yeah, no, good evening. Yeah, Hi there. What I just
want to talk quickly about here is, because there's only
so much time to talk, I've actually written down my
thoughts on a Christmas card here, what I relate to
you guys, and my Christmas card here. What I've written
down I'm going to put in my memory box, and

(33:07):
one day someone I'm going to find my memory box.
I know, I know, because like you know, it's very
special that you guys, you know, give advocity, you know,
advocate towards mental health, and that you know it is
it is a real thing. It's not a fake thing.

(33:30):
And so what I've written down here is what's always
helped me. I've always been my own artist. I'm reading
my Christmas card here. I've always been my own artist.
I've always avoided religion, I've always avoided politics, I've always
avoided royalty, and nowadays I always avoid social media, and

(33:54):
nowadays I always avoid money. And then I've got a
quote mark on my Christmas card and it says to myself,
only then can I found what I need to be doing,
what I need to do, and that's quite special to me.

(34:15):
Only then I found what I need to be doing
is what I need to do. And then over here
I've got another quote mark my land, my garden like
in reality tonight, when I hang up the cell phone
with you guys tonight, I've already grown my own silver spring,

(34:38):
onions and all of the things in my garden. And
I've done that for myself. I'm lucky. I've got land.
I can grow my own vegetables. But I need to
rely I don't need to rely on religion, politics, royalty,
social media and money. I did grow the things in
my garden, and that's what I'll be feasting on tonight,

(35:01):
and just accept the way that life's going to be
and not wished for so much more money in my
my life, because that's when I'm going to start to
be a failure towards myself.

Speaker 2 (35:15):
Well, I think if you stay on that kind of thinking, Matthew,
there's no way that you can be a failure to
yourself because you know you're you're working with what you have,
you're having that gratitude for where you are. That's as
we well know, Kyle that that that's a great key
to being able to maintain healthy mental health.

Speaker 3 (35:33):
Absolutely, and I actual would like the idea of a
memory box. I mean, I think most people have probably
got something like that. I know I have. I've got
a couple of sort of boxes of bits and pieces
from different times in my life, might be maybe bits
of jewelry or ID cards. I've still got my old
student IDs university, and that's a box somewhere. I think
it's important to have somewhere that you keep put those

(35:53):
little keepsakes. I think that's a great idea. I like
calling it a memory box too.

Speaker 13 (35:59):
Oh thank you. I'll put this card in my memory box.
I'll put a date on it, Today's date, brilliant And
maybe when I'm I'm ninety years old, will see how
a future changes.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Yeah, yeah, it sounds like it sounds like a plan.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
Well you know what, Sometimes they say, the more things change,
the more they stayed the same. Good on you, good
on your message. I love the idea of a memory box.
I've got what I call the I call it the
trophy wall at home, and it's there's just a few
nice photos just from some bobs through life actually, and

(36:32):
sometimes people might look at it and not actually understand
what it is, but just little mementos from you know,
adventures and experiences.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Yeah, I think we've got a couple of others club
ones hanging around there actually, same. Yeah, straight to the
Pearl Room straight pretty much, you know. And I think actually,
if you wanted a wonderful, albeit fictitious study and gratitude,
you should watch The Castle.

Speaker 3 (36:56):
One of the best all time.

Speaker 2 (36:57):
Ah. Do you know that they filmed they made that
entire film, Well, they filmed it in ten days.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me because it was just so
genuine and straightforward. Eh.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
It wasn't a complicated added story, but a really important
one and one that perhaps we should remind ourself. If
you've never watched it before, go and find it The Castle.
I'll see if I can. I'll have a search around
and see where I went ahead a look. You can
watch The Castle if you've never seen it. It's on
TV in Z for free on demand on demand. So
if you've got if you've got an Internet connection, just

(37:29):
go to TVNZ dot co dot nz logan and you
can watch the Castle. Somebody else also suggested keeping up appearances.
All five seasons of keeping up appearances are there, brilliant
for free, so you just go on and it's there,
So you know, you're sort of starting to run out
of excuses here.

Speaker 3 (37:48):
There's a lot of great comedies there are.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
The lines are choc a block. So I'm going to
come to in just one moment a couple of text
messages I've got here first though, This one says greetings,
a smile, a wave, a nod or hello could make
their day more than you know. So go on and
give it a go and you'll feel better, I promise.

(38:12):
I know.

Speaker 3 (38:13):
I like that. It's a limericky sort of doctor ZEUSI feel,
isn't it. Yeah, it's got a bit of doctor Zeus
in there.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That's from Annie. Thank you Annie. I really like that.
Another one here, I've got the Mental Health Foundations Five
Ways to well Being is a great way to manage
our mental health. Every day, give connect, learn, take notice,
be active, focus on the positives in your life, especially
with all the negative news of the world today. We

(38:40):
have a lot to be grateful for. But you know
what we talk about, you know, the negative news of
the day. I remember she's long past now, but I
remember my grandmother telling me about things that she never
thought she would see end. And these were negative things
in her life. She never thought she'd see the Berlin warfall.

Speaker 3 (38:59):
Yeah, yeah, it's a bigie.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Right and it fell. She never thought she'd see peace
in Ireland now, the IRA is you know, well shinn'
feint is, you know, like a legitimate political party.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
Yeah. Absolutely.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
So the thing is is that, you know, we kind
of think about perhaps, you know, are we in unprecedented times? Yep, sure,
you know things are different, but every time has the
has their bad news, has their their tough stories, has
their challenges, and we find a way forward, and most
of all, we find a way forward by actually helping
each other out, which is exactly what this show's all

(39:33):
about and what you guys are doing tonight.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
Yeah, gratitude is important to he and I mean, let
me just give you my general provisor. With gratitude, it's
non judgmental, it's not judge mental, and it's compassionate, so
it doesn't have to be it's okay to compare. You know,
it's okay to say, hey, I'm grateful I live in
New Zealand and not somewhere in the Middle East. You know,
that's okay. That's not punching down, it's not saying that,
you know, ha ha. It's actually just kind of saying, well, yeah,

(39:57):
we can feel negative about the way things are going
in New Zealand and some of those problems are true,
but we can also go and isn't it great we
live in a peaceful country?

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I think so, you know, especially when what I've been
preoccupied for the last week at the front of my
mind was, you know, would a targo I finished top
of the NPC?

Speaker 3 (40:14):
What a wonderful luxury to be worried about that huge?

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Actually yeah, massive. And again it's not to say that
you're not consider it or empathetic to the the other
challenges of the world.

Speaker 3 (40:25):
Because it could be worse. I mean, you could be
an Auckland fan.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
Well look, commiserations and it's not like you can you
can you know, that's your hats your wagon to Northland
or Harbor.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
I got three teams, right manaw were two where I
was born, North Harbor, where I went to high school
and Auckland.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
You know, to be fair, your best been at the
moment would be to start going but south and go
to counties manicure. Oh, come with right.

Speaker 3 (40:48):
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
I come with you. Hey, look we're going to go
to our next caller. I'm very happy to see this
caller pop up because we had an inquiry and I
think it was last week or the week before as
to the welfare of this caller.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Excellent.

Speaker 2 (41:01):
So I'm very happy to say LB, good morning to.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
You, col and co. Tough of the lorn, to you.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
Lovely to hear from you.

Speaker 4 (41:11):
It's very lovely to talk to you. About ten fifteen
years ago, I went to see a societrest called doctor Bucket,
and everyone beyond the back called him doctor Buquet.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Yeah, he's got to start of the day with a laugh,
you know, to make.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
Sure Helbi Alby, did you push the wrong button? Helbie?

Speaker 3 (41:38):
Oh no, he was getting into it.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
I had a great opener. That was a there was
a there was a prodression Patricia Rutler's you know, keeping
up appearance's reference. It was about to go some some
deep inside as Albie does.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
He's totally on the vibe.

Speaker 2 (41:51):
Oh, cool back, Mane, cool back, Albie, We've got your back.

Speaker 4 (41:56):
Yes, yes, yeah, I wouldn't see a psychiatrist called doctor Bucket.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yes you're saying.

Speaker 4 (42:03):
Behind And we called him doctor the Bouquet. And I
sat in front of him and he said to me,
what's on your mind? And I rolled my eyes around
and I really was stumped for an answer, and I said, well,
I mean it. I'm not sleeping. I'm making mountains out

(42:27):
of molehills. My head's doing one hundred dollars in there.
But why did you ask me such a awful question?
And he said to me, because it tells the a
lot on the way you answered it.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
That's what you call it.

Speaker 4 (42:48):
Real question?

Speaker 2 (42:50):
Before what do you call it a leading question?

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Indeed?

Speaker 4 (42:55):
Well, normally when you say as a character. So let's
all how I was, I mane, you know? But then
he said, how is your mind? I really good? Did
not know how to answer there.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
So I'll be, you know, in terms of what you know.
With it being Mental Health Awareness Week twenty three minutes
in people, what would you want New Zealanders to be
aware of when it comes to mental health?

Speaker 4 (43:25):
Open talk? Just treat everyone as an equal I use
belong discrimination, stigma in Christ Jewish, but just treat everyone
has like so one would a broken arm, it's got
a broken mind. Just treat them as an equal. But

(43:47):
no one's better and no one's worse. So high to everyone.
Sometimes you're not going to get a high back. But
just remember they might be having a bad day and
the next day they'll say hi, back to here. But
it's a lovely world. Love them. But some people use

(44:12):
stigma and label people would means littleness is different than
you know, a body of parts.

Speaker 14 (44:24):
Or some leg.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
No, I think that's really fair.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
Alb.

Speaker 2 (44:29):
Yeah, thank you very much, Thank you very much. Brilliant
insiders always and nice to hear you back. Yeah, fantastic.

Speaker 3 (44:37):
And yeah, connection even those especially sometimes those little connections.
The hello is the walking past someone on the street
and nice day. I find those little moments often make
quite a difference, you know. The self checkouts.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
Yeah, you know, I have noticed, and I've had this
happen in a few places I'm going at the moment, right,
I have noticed that the normal checkouts, you know, the
ones that have humans in them, are increasing less busy,
and there's actually fewer and fewer people going through. I've
started making a probably in the last few months, actually

(45:16):
started making a purpose to go through and I've actually
asked the person how's day going, Yeah, they asked me,
and I say, oh, you know, all right. But then
I go house, things down, things here, and I say,
you know, you've been busy, and you know you're coming
up to Christmas? Does it get busier? And when you
get to the months and what's your busiest time of
the week. And they just love it, you know, like
the person you're talking to really just engaged in the conversation.

(45:38):
And I actually really enjoy it too, because I'm learning
a bit about the supermarket game. I mean, the supermarkets.
We've all got to go to them, right sure, And
I mean I'm genuinely fascinated and the people are interested
in talking to you, and I'm like, yeah, because when
I was having the conversation like this at the at
the self checkout, it didn't go very well and it

(45:59):
said plea and I was saying, you know, how's it going,
you know, and the just keeps saying back to me,
please place your item in the bagging areasation I was like,
well no, but I mean, like, just tell me like,
you know your Virgo Sagittarius, but please place your bit
And I was like, wow, short tempered, yeah, not very
polite really, I mean she said please, but I felt

(46:21):
like it was only because she had to. And then
I thought the conversation was special. She was saying exactly
the same thing to the other two people behind.

Speaker 3 (46:27):
Me as well, all at the same time.

Speaker 10 (46:29):
Ah.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I just the connection just wasn't there.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yeah, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, so I'll go and talk to the humans now.
Just seems to be a bit more engaging. I've got
a couple of techs I wanted to get to. Hey,
morning team. What helps my mental health is repairing things,
taking things apart, seeing what's wrong, and fixing it keeps
my brain occupied. Plus I literally fizzit the bung when
I eventually fix it. I've been given a broken lawnmark

(46:56):
and I'm looking forward to get the parts I need
to make it all better. Plus I find that keeping
my house tidy is always good for my mental health.
By the way, even though it Targo's number two, there'll
always been number one to me. That's from Matt Nice one,
Matt best text of the night. I thought you might
say that I love fixing stuff too. And the best

(47:18):
thing about fixing stuff is if something's already broken, you
can't break it anymore. That's true.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
Yeah, I have a saying with a friend of mine.
I can't say the whole thing on the radio, actually,
but it's fix it or effort, right, because you if
you don't fix it, it was broken anyway. So at
least you gave it a crack. And sometimes it's actually
quite satisfying just to take something apart.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yeah, I mean, I'm yeah, Yeah, I've fixed a few
things in my time. I felt pretty good about it.
I agree. Sherry has texted and to say I work
in forensic scientific or she says, I worked in forensic
psychiatric unit for years. My suggestion is to start where
a person is at. That is, look at Maslow's hierarchy

(48:00):
of needs.

Speaker 3 (48:01):
Right.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
We need to stop assuming that we know best for
someone who was unwell. I suffer from anxiety too, and
I take ash r gwander with magnesium. Okay, I hope
I said that right. It seems to help with a
good dose of Jack Veil's farting videos on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
Sounds like a fantastic combination.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
At one part, we're going with long words and magnesium
to jack veils, farting videos. I mean, what even works.

Speaker 3 (48:33):
So anyone who's ever done a social sciences degree or
know what Mezo's hierarchy needs is. But it's basically this
idea that actually, if you're struggling to have food on
the table and actually shelter, then that's your only focus.
And once those things are sorted, then you might start
to think about improving your income or getting a bit
more income, or having relationships or satisfying things. And actually

(48:55):
we often don't get to focus on the sort of
the meaning of life until all those other things are
sort of sorted.

Speaker 4 (49:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
It's that of hierarchy, right, So those are the last
things we think about. So, yeah, meet people where they are,
help them solve the problems they Actually I'm.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Going to tell this story because this is true. But
I did one time and I did not realize that
this guy, I thought he was joking for a start,
and I realized and we're just talking about hierarchy of needs.
And he literally told me that he was going to
have to sell his BMW to be able to keep
the upkeep, upkeep for his polo horses.

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Yeah, I think that's off the hierarchy of needs altogether.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
But he was like, you know, he goes, I just
I don't know what to do, and I think I'm
going to have to sell the Beamer. And I was like, oh, okay,
what are we selling the Beama for? He gets, well,
you know, my polo horses. I've just because I've been
running a seven horse program and I've just I was like,
the sky joking or is he? Then I realized because
he was, I could see the anxiety, and I thought, well,

(49:56):
I just if that's what you're worried about, that that's
the hierarchy of needs right there, the Beamer, all the
polo horses. Can't you choose the other vision I've.

Speaker 3 (50:04):
Seen in the hierarchy of needs, because if you see
a diagram of it, it's like a triangle with slices
through it, with the things stacked up. Is the modern version,
which is that triangle with a big piece edit at
the bottom that just says wi fi.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah, let's go back to the lines. Calvin, good morning
to you.

Speaker 15 (50:22):
Hi, good morning.

Speaker 14 (50:26):
Hey.

Speaker 15 (50:26):
I actually I was going to say something, but I've
actually changed it. But you know that the best thing
that you can actually do for yourself is that when
you wake up in the morning, is just think of something.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
You're grateful for.

Speaker 15 (50:40):
And you know, I sus from depression of anxiety, and
but the pills aren't the answer. The answer is actually
just living life. And like, yeah, when you pass from
all the street just to hello, and people don't actually

(51:02):
do that these days. And you know, like my oldest boy,
his mother put him in the hard basket and so
he went to she went to his doctor and said, well,
well he's got social anxiety disorder, and so he got

(51:25):
it into his head that he got so to anxuicy disorder.
And he's now twenty six and he's still not doing anything.
And you know, it's you just.

Speaker 13 (51:38):
Got to.

Speaker 15 (51:41):
Live life the best way you can, and everyone else
is going through a different stage in life. But you know,
a lot of people are.

Speaker 4 (51:57):
Worrying about other.

Speaker 15 (51:59):
People's perception of you, but the perception of you has
actually got nothing.

Speaker 4 (52:05):
To do with you.

Speaker 2 (52:06):
And they also too, Calvin, the thing I've been told
many a time is that you'll probably be surprised at
how little other people actually think about you exactly.

Speaker 15 (52:16):
And I mean, my my thing with the depression anxiety
is you know, I wasn't told, taught until later in
life what grief was, right, and if you don't, if
you don't understand what grief is, well, then you don't

(52:37):
understand what's going on in life. And I mean grief
is even just losing Boddy, a car or something.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Oh yeah, comes to lots of different forms. Yeah, I
mean grief is a.

Speaker 15 (52:50):
Oh yeah, you've got to go through the grocesses of
life of grief too. Like I had a stage where
I my kids went in my life, so I had
to grieve for that, but my kids eventually come back.
But you know, I've had stuff stolen from me, so

(53:13):
you know that's all grief as well. Absolutely, And if
you don't understand what grief is, well that's going to
cause you a mental disorder, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Well it can definitely. It definitely cause a lot of discomfort.
And really it's about making sure that you've got the
right amount of support around you and that you're doing
the best to look after yourself so that you can
let the grief process run its course as long as
that takes. And that's the other thing, Calvin, when we
come to grief, as we always say, don't let people

(53:47):
try and put you on some kind of timetable. You
take it at your own pace.

Speaker 15 (53:52):
I mean when I grew up going to high school
and everything, primary school, high school, you know, college, I
would befriend the ones that were picked on because you know,
you don't know what.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Sorry, just lost Calvin there. But no, I agreed with
what Calvin was saying. And also I got a text
in here that actually said a lot of people scared
to say what this guy says. I one hundred percent
agree with him.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Yeah, I think the thing is a diagnosis is only
ever as useful as the treatment plan that follows it. Right,
So it's all very well to find out what we
might be struggling with, but actually then we have to
find ways to keep hope and to keep engage with change.
And you know what, actually which we should have kept
a tally mark. Maybe you are over there on that screen,
Neils there, Hamish, but I reckon gratitude is probably the

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thing that's come up the most tonight.

Speaker 2 (54:46):
Well, we'll be going through and actually analyzing the you know,
all of the talk here, but I would say that
people talking about the little things has cropped up a lot.
Just saying hello, having time I think that, you know,
sometimes we can feel like we're all in a hurry
or where you know, we'll get round to that later,
but just taking the time to just have those interactions

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with people like I was talking about at the supermarket.
It's actually the stuff that really counts.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
It really does.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
Colin texted them to say, I don't suffer from depression
or anxiety, but a little morning thought I was taught
in my early days and alcoholics anonymous was I will
be as happy today as I make up my mind
to be. It does work when I remember to practice it. Yeah,
I think that's that's actually pretty pretty key, isn't it.
You know, we can actually set our own expectations for

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our happiness for the day.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
We can and maybe just jump in with a with
a caution please, because a lot of these suggestions are
really important. That it's the person who's doing the challenging
of themselves. So absolutely change your mindset, think positively, shift
how you're thinking about things. All great things to suggest
to yourself to yourself, not great things to suggest to
someone else who's suffering. Just change how you're thinking about it, mate, Come.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
On, so hi, you know I'm sort of you know,
I'm feeling a bit anxious.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
An it's just changing.

Speaker 2 (56:07):
Okay, all right, is this what you say to your clients?

Speaker 3 (56:11):
It depends, but you take my point right, Okay, yeah, no,
exactly exactly. These are great things to challenge ourselves.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Yeah, and let's be honest when it comes to the
inner critic, the inner critic can also be the inner
motivator as well. And that's sometimes what we're trying to
talk about is how do we actually change that little
voice of doubts, of criticism and turn it into one
of encouragement and support.

Speaker 3 (56:36):
That's it.

Speaker 2 (56:38):
When you get that voice mastered, it can do incredible
things for you, and it does, and it does with
people all over the place, you know, talking about movies.
We were just talking with Calvin before and he was
sort of saying, you know how, you know you don't
treat people any different, and don't let them tell you
that you're any different. I was remembering that was Forrest
Comp's mum remembers. She gets Forest and Forrest is clearly

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not the sharpest all in the shed, and she gets
in there and she says, just you remember, don't you
ever let anyone treat you any different? Just like everyone
else you know, and you go, Okay, Mama, you know,
and it's it is that simple. But man, it's hard
for us to tell ourselves that and believe it at times.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Right, it is, but it's important to keep trying.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
Let's go to the lines. A topic expert of mental
health awareness. He's been with the show pretty much since
day one. Read good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (57:32):
You're a Hamish Williams and doctor Carle Sally Fields was
the woman you were talking about.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
She was indeed, did she want to ask her for that?

Speaker 10 (57:42):
I hope? So you want you ask New Zealand what
they think about what's happening on Earth and everywhere else
deep down. Do you want to know what I think's
happening deep down on Earth?

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, well, I want to know what you would like
New Zealanders to know to be aware of during Mental
Health Awareness Week.

Speaker 10 (58:02):
Do you want to what I think New Zealanders should
be aware of during Mental Health Week in New Zealand
this week?

Speaker 2 (58:10):
I don't, but luckily you've rung me to tell me.

Speaker 10 (58:15):
Okay. Icons are demons created by the Demiurge. The demi
Urge was created by the goddess Sophia and it's like
we're on a prison planet and we're a baggage.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Right, well, I think that you've been given the airtime.
There we go. We can be made aware of it now,
thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (58:37):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
It gets solus out of our souls.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
There we go, all right, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (58:44):
They're escalated quickly.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Well look here's the thing. You don't even know where
it's going to go.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
It's actually part of the brilliance of life. I got
to say, David, good morning to you.

Speaker 11 (58:54):
Hi, am, Hi, Hamish and Carl. I want to talk
about quickly too, pre brief top topics first of all,
and a recent in direction with my friend Julien and
that went bad just recently, but I try not to
get on that so much as a good interaction with

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First of all, that that book I was trying to
bring up last week to the guy from Australia. Not
was it Nuts as Everything? What was a book called again?

Speaker 2 (59:26):
Mental as Anything?

Speaker 11 (59:29):
Mental is? Oh good? I want to get that book
on to try to buy it. How much is it
and where do you buy it?

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Like, I'm not sure how much it is, but it'll
be around I think it's around the thirty bucks at
any any any major bookstore. It's big pink cover mental
as anything that's good.

Speaker 11 (59:46):
And what's his name again? I forgot his name?

Speaker 1 (59:50):
M j or.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Jmo Jonathan Moran, Oh good Jamo.

Speaker 11 (59:55):
And also a recent but the best thing is a
recent interaction with a friend and old psychiatric nurse Graham
Graham Hutchinson. I met him at a feff. You know
we met before where with you Hamish? A few times
I've met Graham and he's really good. Interactions with him

(01:00:19):
and he doesn't mind me talking to him. And he said,
and I said to him, I remembered when when Albi
said this is what figgered this? When Alby said has
psychatching doctor said how's how's your mind? Well, I remember
saying to Graham years ago when he took the crisis

(01:00:41):
call off off me in nearly two thousands. I said,
I said I think I think this and and Graham,
as Adak, said, I didn't think you could think and
I don't. And I said that to him recently and
he said, you you seriously can think, David. You're quite
a you're quite a smart bookie really, but people under
you underestimate yourself. And he said, he actually said this

(01:01:05):
is a really good interaction about a month, about three
weeks go at the cafe, and he said, he said
it just he said that the only really real issue
he's noticed is my behavior is has been bad, you
know at times, but apart from that, really I'm quite

(01:01:26):
a good person. It's just my behavior. But now that
and we had a really good interaction and it was
really good. Now there was quickly with Julian. I got
slapped over the head really hard because I we were
at KFC yesterday and I he was Julian wasn't in

(01:01:46):
a very good fame of mine. He was really he
was talking out of order things. And all I said
is there are some kids there and that that they
don't want to hear is psychotic stuff. That's all I said.
And he slapped me out, but he'd really really hard,
and I he came back and he said he said,

(01:02:11):
he said, don't threaten me like that or something, and
I didn't treat and and and the thing is I said,
shut up, not really loud, and I was out of order,
but I basically was was assaulted and it can cast
but but I'm getting over it. And I have to

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forgive Julian and I know that I triggered him and
he was unwell, and I threatened the police signed him
tonight on the Texas and everything. But I don't want
to do that. I want to tell his nurses that
he is own well and he's refused medication and also

(01:02:54):
drinks and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
But that sounds like a much better plan because actually
that's going to help him, letting them know his own well.

Speaker 11 (01:03:02):
Okay, thanks very much, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Go well.

Speaker 3 (01:03:07):
Sally Feels didn't win an Academy Award for Forest Gump Support.
She was nominated for a Bethter Best Actress and a
Supporting Role for Forest Gumps. She won two Academy Awards though,
Best Actress in Normal Ray and Places in the Heart.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
I have a feeling was it her that when she
won one of the Oscars and she her speech, she said,
you like me, you really really like me? Have a
funny feeling that was the Sally Field speech. It's kind
of been lampoon somewhat right during the time, but I
don't know, I meanin yeah, yeah, yeah, she got up
there and she goes, you like me, you really really were.

Speaker 3 (01:03:44):
Her Academy Award for an eighty and eighty five Yeah, Okay.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Yeah, so she's been quite prolific for a long time,
really has. Yeah, but I think I think we can
all agree, probably regardless of the awards. Iconic role Forest
Gump's Mum. Absolutely great film. Actually, yeah, one of my favorites.
Well that's it for this episode of the Nutterers Club.
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