Mass Golf Part One

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winning the studio with come on,Angelina, you learn here Angelina, Chad
Stump and and I am Jesse monockelmAnd who's Jesse? Well, first of

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all, thanks for having me.I am the executive we want to have
you. I'm the executive director andCEO of Mass Golf, the State Golf
Association. Okay. And for peoplethat don't cough with the people up at
they don't cough anymore, we're tryingto get them in the family. Get
We'll bring them in. I don'tknow, bet, I was a golf
widow mcolf mother. I've been atgolf. I don't even I don't like

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golf. Okay, I've been theone making a living so big else can
go golf. Okay, but tellme, Jesse, tell me what's going
on out there? You how'd youtake get into this position? Give me
the background, and how do youend up here? Sure? Yeah,
Well I grew up playing. Myfather introduced me to the game. I
was probably about four or five yearsold. Common story, right, I
mean that happens, played a littlebit competitively through high school and then in

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college was like anyone else, whatam I going to do with my life?
Pursued sports management and always knew therewas some sports administration interest, knew
there was an affinity for golf,and cold called a few organizations, the
Mask Golf Association being one, andthey brought me on as an intern my
first summer in school and since thenI stuck around for three summers. They

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hired me when I graduated from school. So you started with them in college.
I did, I did, andI haven't left. So and that's
how many years later? This is? This is year eighteen all in,
so it took you eighteen years tobecome president. Well, I've been in
this world now eleven. So Iran our championships for about six years and
so three years is an intern,about six years running events and now year

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eleven as executive director. And Chow, when did you meet Chessie? How
did you know Chesseay? On dayone? He's noised since I was a
little kid running around out there,what thirteen twelve years old, competing absolutely
one event to the next, andyou watch all these kids chasing the dream.
Yeah, you know, it's it'sinteresting because we serve all levels of
play, right, so you mighthave juniors that are looking to pursue,

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you know, a competitive career inthe game. But on the other end
of it, you might have amid am who just enjoys the game.
They work for a living, butthey have that competitive juice. Maybe they
played in high school, they playedin college, and they still keep that
fire going where they can compete,you know, as a twenty five year
old or even as a senior amateura fifty five and up. We offer
those events for everybody, and Ithink that was what your father wanted to

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do. And don't remember it wascalled the Senior Tour. Yeah, you
want to try out back. Itis a forty fifty senior tour. So
the Mascolf Association does all these typeof tournaments. Yeah, it's one component
of our services. We're an organizationof member clubs. So the clubs in
Massachusetts are a member of our organization. We service them whether it's through handicapping,

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course raiding. But then on thegolfer side, one of our major
show cases is really our championships andour tournaments. So who who heads up
like us AM is that you guys. So the USGA is the national governing
body. We're a partner of theus GA. We're kind of their local
affiliate if you will, and weconduct their local qualifying. So we'll host

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the USAM qualifier in Massachusetts, okay, and then also do the us Open
call. That's been Chad. Youronly turn is that you always come in
like, oh, I've had theUSAM. I've had so many bad stories
on my home course, Blue Hill. It's mah, what's that kid?
Something broom, Matt broom. We'regoing to playoff because I just go I
went wild on the final nine.We go to one. He's in the

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back of the green. This it'sstraight downhill. I too put. I'm
going to the us M. Thisthing hits a come from sixty feet,
go straight up and then he takesmy spot. Wow yep. And apparently
his friend took my stys on theday of the night before. That was
great and his friend he did.The kid popped the ball. Yeah yeah,

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and at least if not, itwas off the green going into the
friends, you had to chip upand unces, you made the chip.
He's had some crazy like moments.Yeah, it's golf. Let me tell
you're playing against mother nature, right, and sometimes those stars just have to
line up and a your a luckyday. It's one of those crazy you're
grinded for every shot out there.Let me tell you that you're working for
every shot. So okay, sotell me about do you see these kids

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that are getting younger and younger?You're how old? Now? I'm thirty
seven, so you're young. Butif you ask golfers that are in their
fifties and sixties, they would tellyou good golfers didn't hit the PGA till
the late middle thirties. Is thatcorrect? I think years ago that might
have been the case. It's gettingyounger and younger. And how young are
they? Well, several are notgoing to college, going right to the

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pros from high school. Really,yeah, we've seen that recently. But
you've also got college has a gooddevelopment option. You know, a kid
like Michael thorp Jornson, he's he'sat Stanford right now and he has an
opportunity to get to the PGA Tourjust by way of his collegiate finishes.
So no more C school for somethinglike that, or there is still Q

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school, but there's other avenues throughthe sponsors, exemptions and stuff like that.
Oh yeah, that you don't haveto go. And this this kid,
Michael, he's he's a stick.He's the real deal. One thing
I would share to just locally.I think the junior golf scene has changed
dramatically. You grew up with it, but it's changed even since him.
It has. Yeah, there's moreplayers number one, and there's more talent.

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You can play year round, right, you can go through simulate.
You know, there's there's different programs, clinics. But here here's my question
to you. If you're living inFlorida, why did you get to come
to mass and sign up here?Easier competition sometimes because they've been playing all
your in Florida, but that comeback here. Well, given the kids

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actually working, we're kind of inthat snowbird scenario where you might have families
that go down south over the wintercome back for the summer. So but
it is aren't they working the system? A bit? A little bit?
But you can't stop that? No. I mean, for us, if
if you're a member of Mask Golf, if you have an affiliation, a
handicap or membership at one of ourclubs, you're eligible to Oh you are,

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so you have to have some tiesto Mask, you do, but
that's easy to get. No,relatively speaking, Yeah, okay, all
right, well let's go off toother questions. Are you happy who you
are? Extremely Yeah, this hasbeen an incredible ride and seeing a lot
of change over eighteen years. Scottystill over there, No, Scottie is.

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He's worked at actually a few clubsin the South Shore area. So
basically Start is an intern and endedup as present eighteen years. So you
ways stuck it out. I didnot your typical millennial right, No,
not at all. Well, youhave the attentions of being a fe I
like that. I okay, I'mthe worst person talk golf, Chad.

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You got questions there? This isjoshtick, not mine. There you go,
all right? Did was worth tosupport it? All? Okay?
There you go? What it takes. So in your opinion, how is
the Masters's Golf Association evolves since itsinception? Yeah, it's I'd say we've
professionalized. We've grown tremendously. Youknow. I even for my time within

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the organization, I feel we werethis mom and pop organization. Yeah,
you know a little bit I'm gonnasay fraternal in a way. But now
I feel we're a community based organizationthat serves any golfer, no matter how
they want to engage a lot ofthat speaks to a merger that we UH
successfully accomplished back in twenty eighteen,So the Massachusetts Golf Association and the Women's

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Golf Association Massachusetts. We merged bothorganizations, two one hundred year old organizations
into one with the intent to beof service to any again, any golferline
operation. And that's also doing becausein the golf world that really didn't happen
before. No, no, therewas. It was a bit segmentary,
and you know, call it territorial, but you know, six years in,

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it's it's made us a strong organizationand I think more visible. Yeah,
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thirty. And I'm here with Angelinaand the Star Child Chad, the Star
Chad go ahead, and Jesse MONOCKELMall right, So Jesse knows Chad.
Chad knows Jesse. Chad played golfamateur, went to Europe, you played
for the European Tour, left Massachusetts, went moved to Florida and still played
the mass events up until COVID.Yep. And I'm coming back and hopefully

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we have a great summer because Iknow the events are awesome. But now
let's get back to this. Youwill not see me out there for dinner.
No, no, no, becauselast year up there, hold on,
hold on, you forget. Iwas leaving. The friends that we
met with us was the sixty six. Did you hear she had got kicked
out the termin almost she had towrite a letter to you guys. Did
you know what happened the going outthis this Charles River? Oh, I

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was so pissed them. I hadthe woman that helped me raise Chad and
she had cancer in the cart andthis kid made such a big deal about
it, and I asked for permissionpro but there was a kid and then
he went to the head. Idon't, I don't care. So they
found us out there and they saidyou can't have a cart, and I'm
like, this is like the closestthing to Chad besides me being his mom,

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is the second mom. It wasn'tand it was nice, came out.
I was nice until they said shestill can't be here. And I'm
like, wow, this is thisis like terrible, right. So I
knew the kid said, Jesse Senyou out there. He's actually told you
put your phone down a couple oftimes. So I pulled up into the

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ghost shop and I said, youhad to start this, didn't you.
I said, well, let metell you something. You started with the
wrong woman. And then all ofa sudden, that night, I'm getting
finned. I walk off the eighteenthGreen just happy as hell. I just
shot six under. I'm going atit with Herbie and my dad calls me.
He goes, cheat, I don'tthink you play tomorrow. I go,
what do you mean? I go, I go ahead, didn't do
anything. I'm thinking, like,did I dismiss a dibbit or something like?

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What's going on? He goes yourmother? I go, what the
hell did she do? And thenI heard the story. I go,
oh God, I go, she'snot gonna write the letter. I'm gonna
have to write this. I endwriting a letter that I know. I
wrote a letter and I sent itand I think FITZI wrote the letter and
then I signed it and sent it. I'm like, I'm not apologizing.
I keep everything you have to apologizeto challenge. I apologize. So that

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that's my crazy story. I maybehad a couple more crazy stories out there.
Oh in the US opened a coupleof times. Your phone's just ringing,
and it's always on the par fourardsat whole number three with where the
bunker in the front at Pine Hills, and then it goes down to part
four of the water on the right. Meanwhile there's ten of us with shat
a Pine Hills. Her phone's going. I do remember there's always like,

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yeah, always there was a prettygood group. Always not because it would
be it would be my caddie Micand my dad does she had to come.
She can't drive alone. So bethree people, four people and they
just don't know any golf edit,you know. And then Steve and all
your buddies show up like you alwayshad like ten twelve people up there.
But go ahead, but they're notstressful to have out there. But all

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right, let's go back to theMask Association. How's it evolved? Yeah,
so I would evolve from where fromwhere you were a kid to now
from actually let's go from your startfrom when you started with the mask off
today. Well, again, Iwould say we've grown in stature. We've
grown, you know, from avolunteer based organization now with a staff of

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about twenty seven. You know,when I started, we had a staff
of about eight, very reliant onour volunteer network to you know, really
run the organization and be the frontface of the organization. You know,
as technologies evolved, as the gamesevolved, services, et cetera. You
know, we need to support ourgolfers and our clubs in a different way.
So we still very much rely onvolunteers, but there's a machine now

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behind the operation. We're over onehundred year old organization, so we were
established in nineteen hundred. You know, early on, right, the likes
of Donald Ross Francis we met.I mean, these are the legends within
the game, not just here inMassachusetts but beyond, and you know they're
kind of the foundation of golf herein the state. Then you go to
the likes of Pat Bradley and movingon to the Frank Vanas and Marie Tobns,

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Harry McCracken. Right, Ryah,another ambassador of the game. So
it's important that wed I mess him. He was a legend, he was
a good friend and to me,oh yeah, good role model all that.
But you know, it's important forus that we you know, honor
respect the traditions of it. Buthow do we continue to evolve as an
organization and making sure that we sustainthis game long term? Well, keep

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the tradition. I like that.And now so with evolving, Now,
you said you joined with the Women'sLeague and all that. Are there any
co ed events for the listeners outthere where you know, say a boyfriend
and girlfriend, husband and wife aretwo good golfers, they want to link
up and play a tournament. Doyou guys offer that? Yeah, absolutely,
we have a handful of them,and actually one of them has become

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a mixed four ball championship. Sothis was something new for the organization.
Once we merged, we felt,is there an opportunity to bring our top
players from the male side the femaleside and have them merge together. You
see combinations of Matt parzy Ally andShannon Johnson, two of our best players
nationally pairing up as a team,Herbie Aikins and Megan b Sue curtain Frank

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Vanna. You know, in avery natural way, this became really a
stable calendar and it just took off. So it's partnering up a female and
the male. Yeah, which hasnever really never happened because honestly, female
weren't really a lot of golf coursesto when it probably depends what part of
the country or the mass mass waslate late, yeah, relatively. Yeah,

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mass is real old traditional golf coy. I remember even at Spring Valua
when we first longed to Spring Valley, I was in my early twenties.
I was twenty three. Dad couldgo out there early. We got to
look four o'clock. No, no, no, like twelve one o'clock after
lunch. The women could go outthere and play. I think you'll find
a lot of that type of policyis still there. No, it's gone

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six that is faded, and therewere some clubs that you couldn't even bring
your kids to the country club.I mean, you want to talk about
down south, they still have someof their ways with their clubs and stuff.
Oh no, we're in Massachusetts.Yeah, even we're airing in thirty
seven states, we're in Massachusetts.So we'll stay with the mask because yeah

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we do. But and specifically standthis show right now, we're able to
champion, you know, the women'sgame and having events like this So I
have a question like who would LexiThompson, Lexi and Chad go back to
kids? Very close to no,but who would they partner her up with
if she wanted to play? Youchoose? So I would play with Lexi,
but I can't because she's a professional. There's actually on the professional tours,

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there's some I think behind the scenesdiscussion as to a mixed, a
potential mixed. It hasn't got tothat level yet. Didn't they just do
some small event where they said twoand two? They did? Lexi played
with uh yeah down in Florida.Yeah, yeah, the match, yeah,
the master happened. Yeah. Butisn't she playing on the PGA Men's
No, she played one event Ithink most recently. That's right. Yeah,

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she's exclusively on the LPGA Tour.But I think she had a sponsor
exemption to a PG tour and letme tell you, she kept up.
Have you met many women that canplay absolutely better than put it on the
same tea, Well, let megive you an example. I mentioned Shannon
Johnson a few minutes ago. SoShannon won the US Women's mid Am just
a couple of years ago, andshe has signed up and played in several

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predominantly male events of ours, callit our mid Am Championship. Successfully competed
in that event. She qualified forit. You had Mollie Smith compete in
the mass Amateur last year, whichand howl. So Molly's in college now
she's a freshman in college. Shannonis, Uh, she's a mid am

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probably late thirties. So they're thereare They're out there, and they can
definitely compete, but they can't playon the PGA Men's They have to again
Lexi, Lexi did play, sothere's the ability to play. Is she
the first one to play on themen's I don't know. I don't think

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she is. Then we shall weplay the male event. Yeah, I
can't remember off hand, but Iknow I mean we played in the women's
amateur public links. Yeah. Right, Well, then I have a female
question here. I'm gonna ask thehard questions. I always ask the hard
questions, Right, why do malegolfers make more money than female golfers?

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In your opinion or you don't havean opinion, that's a good one.
Now that's well, I think you'restarting to see that shift a bit.
You know, you're seeing the USWomen's opens perse increase. I think it's
getting up to twelve million dollars.And what's the men's uh, I can't
remember off the top of my head. It might be it might be in

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the around twenty thereabouts. Yeah,you know, then I guess the argument
might be eyeballs and awareness and andthey like to watch the men's better.
I mean, that's it. Itcomes down to. It comes down to
sponsorship, pay advertise. That's whatit comes down. So yep, it's
okay women, you can't complain.We've come a long way. But actually

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no, but it's it's upcoming.I think things are changing quite rapidly.
Rapid Yeah, and now do yousee any and that's kind of hard,
but actually we come back to that. All right, we'll hold that thought.
We're going to break chat and we'lllet you take back. Go with
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back to Toughest Nails on wbc Who'sRadio ten thirty and I'm City Stumple and
I'm here with Angelina quiet one.Chad Stumpo. Chad's got a lot to
say today. I'm not Okay,there you go. I'm backing off of
this one because these are the golfers, right. I know when it's my
lane. I know when I'm offI ninety five. I'm not on I
ninety five. I'm not on driver. I'm on he sed I'm I'm in

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the cast seat. Okay, goahead, boys. She's like happy Gilmore
comes. I'm happy Gilmore comes togolf. Just destructive. That's a good
thing, all right, Jesse.So another question I have. What initiatives
or programs has a Masschosists Golf Associationundertaken to promote the sport and foster community
engagement. Yeah, we are afive and one C three charity and we've

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been and what's the five O oneC. I mean, we're a nonprofit
organization and our development arm is ultimatelyaround junior golf and we've been a champion
of first t National program under thePGA Tours umbrella. This is an opportunity
for us to bring young kids intothe game, but teach them core values

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of life and skills and really tobe great people long term, and we
get them on the golf course throughinstruction, through coaching, and what have
you. And we're twenty years in. We are hugely proud of this program
serving all of Massachusetts. And ontop of that, another program that's a
little bit newer for us, it'scalled Youth on Course, and we feel

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this program complements the first t asit's an opportunity to get kids on the
golf course where they pay no morethan five dollars per round and we subsidize
the balance of that round at anyfacility that they participate at. So it's
a way to get these kids onthe golf course, to make it accessible,
yep, and affordable. One ofthe big challenges that we face as
an industry. Golf can be expensivein certain markets, right, and we

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want to make sure that we're gettingmore kids in a game, that it's
affordable to them their families, andthat there's no barrier to entry. And
now do you think with all that, do you think with bringing these kids
in a young age teach them,they're also learning life lessons through this game
and morals that which kind of ourcountry is kind of lacking right now,
we do you think the game ofgolf teaches that, you know, that's

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that's really the foundation of first tea, right, But think about it.
You know, whether you're you're playingcaddying the people that you're with, the
etiquette that you're learning on the golfcourse. You know, respect, integrity,
honesty, perseverance, all these valuesright that are going to help you
in your career. Accountability, No, I have. Let me tell you,

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it comes back to you. Onething. I would one thing about
Chad. He would never lie onhis and I'd say to his father,
everybody else is lying, why isn'the? And Joe would say that's not
a gentleman sport, that's right.And I remember Joe saying that accountable if
he ever threw his club, Ohmy god, Oh no, Joe is
going to go like, I'm walkingyour club, and don't you ever cheat

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on your score like they played formy bank, Village bank, like they
use those guys just like all thetime. Completely a completely different world.
He completely different. I'm talking aboutthat world. I want to tell all
you male golfers that get up thereand lie and you put those scores that

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you really didn't hit those scores,you're liars. You collect the gifts,
and you should feel guilty because that'slike not even impossible. That comes out
when you play with the actual personabout this one. They're playing and chat
shoots a hole in one right,like like they brought a score that was
crazy, and I'm like the presidentmy bank, I'm like, how how
did they? I shot sixty twothat day and we lost? Because how

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can these kids? I have mystupid question. It's like only asked stupid
questions that comes off. Can thesekids cheat without you guys knowing it?
Hot? Well, let's let's soso Chad knows, right, he's played,
I played numerous events. You know, yes, no, yes she
can and I've seen it done firsthand. But then I've also seen it catch

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up to you. But let's talkabout why. It's a little easier than
the pros. So, yes,you have a marker at the amateur level,
but you only have one you got. It's an honor system, it
really is. You got to betruthful and you know you play the same
ball. You can't change. Youhave to say the same market. You
have to find that ball. There'skids out here. You go in the
woods, and it takes two secondsto you know, drop a ball.

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Some kids maybe get a little footedge just to get a little fluffly and
then the catch it or you don't, I mean you kind of don't want
to be, you know, thatperson to catch them because then the conversation
will happen. But yes, there'scheating that goes on at a lower level
of golf, right chesse professional Andwhen you catch these kids, what happens
like do you say, like,well, hey, we're we're you know,
a rules governing body, right,we've got to run an equitable competition

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or event for all the players thatare in the field. It's likely that
we're going to have a conversation withthat player, maybe a parent, if
they're a guardian, if they're around, and you know, at times maybe
it's an education opportunity. But ifyou're in an amateur championship or you know,
a mid am it's a different differentscenario. You know, if that
were to happen, it's going tocome to light. Oh let me tell

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you shape in the golf world,you'll be known and you don't want that
name? Is that true, Chad? You just say that in the golf
world, you don't want to beknown as a cheater. Well, I
mean in any in any way oflife, in anyway that way. But
it's a game of life, itreally is. So when you guys go
out there and you play these amateurevents, isn't something in the golf cut
with you most of the time youwalk in. No, but you have
one marker, you have officials outthere, but it's you have trees.

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You catch one little thing. Theguy times a right. Like you say,
if I'm walking right behind you can'tgo behind, then you can't hear
you. If you're away from themic, Chad, we're not on TV
anymore, one radio. If Ijust walked right behind him real quick,
right, No, you can seeyou walking home. So if I walked
right behind him for two seconds,like a second, I could drop a
ball so fast you wouldn't even seeit because the tree is covering you.
Got it. So say he's atree, I walked by him, you

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couldn't even see it. So it'sthe honest system being kept with the next
generation kids, I would say itis. Yeah, we're doing as much
as we can to educate it,to preach it. Hey, it's a
part of the game. A father'sout there as much as they used to
be. Yes, I would sayparents are out there quite a bit.
We don't run a ton of juniorevents, but for those that we do,
the parents are paying the club.We've got certain policies that keep would

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be us. Just your famous inthe MGA, Thank you. I got
to be famous for Rego. Okay, all right? So do you think
the kids and again I'm gonna askthe dumb questions, not the hard questions,
right because I'm a dummy in thisgame. Do you think having the
parents out there cause more pressure onthese kids than the kids were just out

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there having a good time playing Inmany cases, yes, I think it
depends on on their presence, onyou know, what they're doing. Are
they being encouraging or relationship and therelationship right? And then what happens off
the golf course? Right? Isit going blow by blow? This is
what you did? Well? Thisis what you didn't or was it did
you have fun out there? Sport? Right? Then? But there are

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kids that a father is that hehad a father that was a scratch golfer.
Sure, so it's not like hehad a father that's was a country
club golfer, you know, orno golfer. So of course his dad
was going to give him honesty.But had Timmy Tarney, who's like an
older brother to me my whole life. And so he put a club in
my hand three years old. There'sa mentor there, right, Yeah,

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mentor your dad put the club inTimmy's here and you see how it went.
Yeah, he was working for yourdad as a lot boy. He
came out of his HackMaster we usedto call him, and Joe put the
club in his hand. That's whenhe found in love of golf. And
that's the beauty of the game.Yeah, exactly, exactly. So that
was just my dumb question. Umat all. You can go back to

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your smarty pant questions. Well,let me let me jump on the smarty
pant question again. I mentioned firstT and youth on course, but we're
seeing another new initiative coming from theUSGA. This is something from Mike wand
the new CEO there. He wasthe former LPGA commissioner for about eleven years,
but he recognized in his role asa commission of the LPGA that there

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weren't a lot of Americans at thetop of the leader board. For LPGA
events. That is true reason beingwe don't have a formal junior development program
for golf. We have it forall other sports, right hockey, baseball,
soccer. We have all these othercountries that have a formalized program for
golf. They have houses in Florida, Arizona where they bring and kind of

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raise these kids, teach them,develop them, provide different services that they
might need to improve their game anddevelop in their game. So we are
actually launching, we're one of sevenpilot programs across the country to create Team
Massachusetts, So a junior golf developmentinitiative that we hope will bear fruit down

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the line. And perhaps you seea young girl from Massachusetts at the top
of the or boy at the topof the leaderboard. And what do you
think do you think you'll see inthe female world's go to LPGA? Do
you think you'll see more female Americangolfers out there? I do think after
ten years, this is going tocreate a pipeline, you know, whether
it's through high school golf, aj G, a USGA competition's college golf,

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and then hopefully at some time,you know, the tours. If
things are successful, I would loveto see it. Even though I played
for Italy, I still love tosee the United States too good. My
producer is knocking me on the shoulders. That means I got to get off
my phone because I can't keep itwith a conversation and go off to break
Thank you. I'm Sinny Stompany.Listens WBZ News Radio ten thirty and We'll

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be right back, sponsored by newBrook Realty Group, Boston, would Smaller
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(30:18):
to Toughest Nails on w b ZNews Radio ten thirty And I'm City Stumpo
and I'm here with Angelina, Chadand Jesse Monocle. Chad. You your
last name? Yeah, your sonusually what's your last name again? Grilla?
No, it wasn't it was,It's stump She's not feisty anymore.
Would you say it's going to bewhat would you say it's going to be

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Stumpo? Yes? Oh you sureabout that? Very sure? Okay,
I'll be the golf widow taker,you'll be the golfer. I'll be the
golf widow, the golf widow.Ye, yes, I'll be divorced.
You need to understand that, yes, maybe it'll be a team. Yeah,
I want to caddy for me,right, she's have We've seen that

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out in the PG to just watch. So let's get back to this listeners
out there. I hope everyone's havinga wonderful night. Actually my list is
like to listen to see who mykids are dating and then they try to
picture like what they We'll come backwith the reality show you all back to
TV. Never had it up.Honestly, I think I need one.
But let's talk about how the game'sevolving. And in my opinion, because

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I worked with First Team Miami Dadefor a little while and I did a
lot of work within the city kids, I brought my own clubs for them
and stuff like that taught them.Do you see a lot more of that
mass now? Still? Are youguys developing a program for that here?
Do you guys have that? Yeah? Great question? And you know,
again, as I spoke earlier withour first TEA program, that's where I'll
put some focus and energy because theintent there is underserved communities. You know,

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where can we bring golf to thosethat need it that can't afford it
too? First and foremost City ofBoston has been a champion location for us.
We've had our first tea program atFranklin Park since twenty fifteen and it's
been hugely successful. You know,it's tied into parks and rec. Kids
have an opportunity to participate in theprogram for free three seasons out of the
year. On top of that,we're down in Brockton, We're at dw

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Field, which has been another homerun. We're out in Springfield as well.
So trying to put some like Isaid, some energy and focus in
these parts of the states that reallywe want to see golf thrive. And
you know, the municipalities, theparks and rec departments, they've all been
hugely supportive and it's allowed our gameto grow and thrive. And we're seeing
these kids kind of graduate on becomemembers of you know, our organization,

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competitors and certain events and seeing aton of success from that. Yeah.
Well, also one of my friendsactually in Boston. Have you ever heard
of urban Golf? I have,So that's one of my really good friends,
pretty good. I did a littlelesson last year with him in Franklin
Park. Just love to see likeall those inner city because they like it.
But it's hard to focus them realquick, but once they get it,

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they all in love with it.And I mean, I don't know
if you guys ever met, buti'd love to introduce you guys. Maybe
I think you're speaking about Marcos.Yeah, Marcos, well, yeah,
absolutely, Jesse. Where can parentsfind these programs? So you can start
with our website at massolf dot org. You can also go to first Team
mass and through those websites you cancheck out the programming, the scheduling.

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I mentioned three seasons out of theyear. We also do have off season
programming, so indoor clinics at boysand girls clubs, you know, gymnasiums,
virtual golf as well. Right,so there's a ton of different options
for them. That's awesome, allright. And with all that, with

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all the you know, the technologycoming up. Yeah, can you how
can you say, like has thetechnology impacted like the golf world it dramatically?
You know, let's talk about question. That's okay, I got the
interviewed. All my clients want golfsimulas in the house. Everyone, it's

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it's hey, it's a way tokeep the golf clib in your hand.
Twelve months out of the technology getout of a golf simulator. You can,
you absolutely can. And not onlythat, but you can get data
right and it can you can analyzeyour swing and get feedback from coaches through
video technology and you can see allyour all your angles, you know,
swing speeds, everything. So it'sbecoming tool. Even if you just have

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a net, you get a track, you can see everything on the computer.
Come on these golf simulas I'm puttingin houses Like yeah, I'm saying,
if you want to got that puttinggreen and the little cheaper side.
I guess if you want a golfin the winter time? Do you think
they're simulating golf? They're blowing up. I see them opening them up everywhere.
Now we have we've seen league playyou know where folks. You know

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it's there's also the social element too, right, whether it's your your top
golf experience or uh is there thetop golf is or are you outside playing
on top of it? Why you'reindoor lire heated base tape but you're hitting
out indoor out door. And mylast question, and I have no more,
the rest is on you in chat. If one more person tells me.

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In my twenty year career with chatthat golf is not a sport.
Can I punch them in the eyeballsand like hold them? Yes? And
then can I put my pants inyour ears? Because to this day they
still say it's not a sport.There's athletes the hardest. It's one of
the hardest games. I think it'shardest. Is golf considered a sport?

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But thank you? I think thatcan be answered differently by how you engage
with the game. Is it asport or not? Absolutely? And how
long have people been saying that it'snot a sport until COVID, I think,
well, I mean, just lookat these athletes right on the LPGA
or PGA. No, look atthe athletes at all. One of the
NBA players based you know, baseballbasketball think they could hit the ball,

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couldn't hit the easy. He couldn'teven touch it. And I finally got
him hit it. He was hita seven, nine, one fifty.
But all my addicted, all myathletes that live in my homes, they
always say, can chat teach me? Can chatt teach me? Because they
think it's a sport. Thinks it'sa sport. I think about it too
post post career. If they're anNBA player or NFL player. Right,

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they're not playing these sports until they'refifty years old. They need a competitive
atmosphere. How do they get thatcompetitive outlet? And golf becomes for a
lot of them. Yeah, LikeI played with Lawrence all the time in
Florida. Man, he just lovescompeting. He just came out that mental
state. They just love to compete. You know a couple of NBA players
that were in the bubble back inthe pandemic right Orlando. They had a
lot of time in between their games. They were this this fraternity where they

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really couldn't go anywhere. They wereeating together. There were golf courses in
that facility Gate. All they woulddo is play golfer. And the guys
are young. But when the RyderCup came to the country club, Michael
Jordan was in town, cam theythat was with all of them hanging out
like they were playing, they werewatching. Then they would play their own
games and they were having a ball. Yeah. Who fell off the balcony

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that year because he got so drunk. I will not say I keep that
one. There's certain things I can'tdiscuss, But I just want to say
this because a lot of people saythis, golf is not a sport.
Have we said now, golf isa sport? Yes, okay, RD
Golf's a sport. If anyone wantsto argue that, go pick up a

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golf club, yeah and go shoot. Yeah, let me know if you
can make a bird or a parI just I think you got to look
at you know, the best playersin the world and how they train and
how they prepare themselves to be thebest in the world. Right, it
looks a lot different than it didyears ago. Oh yeah, now everyone's
at shay. It's a full timesit's a full time job, it is.
I have another dumb question. Sorry, this will be my last dumb

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work, I promised, Like,I'm sorry. We're out here hitting balls
to our hands are bleeding. That'show much you have to practice. Did
Tiger Woods change this game forever beingone of the youngest guys to come out
there and play the way he played. Yeah, you know at that time,
he made it relevant for the nextgeneration. Yep, no one worked
out he started that. Okay,I'm done with my dumb questions. You

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know the pandemic, right, itwas an unfortunate time, but great time
for the golf. Well, itwas a boon for the industry. It
absolutely was, and I think itbecame relevant once again. I think there's
been some changes, and I thinkthis is why people don't want to go
They want to do this. Don'tgo to work, go to work thing.
Don't want to go to the officebecause they go to play golf.

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Okay, yeah, they' bring tolaptops so there they do zoom calls.
Yeah, I think you're seeing morerounds early in the morning and then more
rounds at four o'clock in the afternoonthan I agree. They're getting their licks
in right, all right, Solet's get back to this. What are
some unique characteristics or features? Alittle dumb question? No, stupid question.
Good, I have another one.I'll play it. No, I'm

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all done with my dumb questions topayroll. What are some unique characteristics or
features of golf culture in Massachusetts comparedto the other regions. So a couple
things. Uh. One, Iwould start that two thirds of the facilities
in Massachusetts are publicly accessible. SoI think that's that's something we should champion,

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right, anyone can get on thesefacilities and enjoy the game. On
top of that, let's talk aboutthe territory of the state. Right,
you go from Cape Cod, youknow some tourists type attractions all the way
to Western mass You've got two verydifferent experiences. Exactly in between, we've

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got a plethora of nine hole venues. And to me, I think a
nine hole venue allows for, youknow, an easy way for folks to
bake golf into their lifestyle. Right. It's a shorter experience, a little
less intimidating in some respects. Youcan fit into your schedule whether you're you

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know, a working parent, right, You've you've got to juggle kids activities.
Yet an hour and a half,an hour and a half go play
night holes right now? For thelisteners out there, where are a lot
of these night whole courses? Howabout this? I gotta step in hold.
I thought we're going to break onCidney Stump and he listens to WBZ
News Radio ten thirty. It'll beright back to you. Yeah, it's

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me again, would you know?And welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ
News Radio ten thirty And I'm CitySTUMPO. I got another dumb question,
Jess. We have too much tocover it, Okay, can you just
come back next weekend so we cando a two part of here. Just
make sure it's not seventy five degreesand sunny. Okay, it won't be,

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I promise, because I might beon the golf course with you.
No, you won't be eight o'clockat night. You're not on the golf
course eight o'clock. Yes, youare, actually all right. I can
get on you absolutely boom. Howdo people get in touch you, Jesse
Fast, our website maskolf dot org, or on social playmask golf. Repeat
that, maskolf dot org. Ourwebsite and our social handles, play mask

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golf. One more time, maskolfdot org and our social handles play mask
golf. And if you didn't getthat, then I don't know what's wrong
with you. People, have agreat, safe weekend, and I'll see
you next weekend. This is CindyStumpo toughes Nails WBZ News, raded ten thirty