Raven Drum Foundation

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I welcome to Cindy Stumpo tough hisnails on WVS News Radio ten thirty
and I'm here tonight with obviously mynew brunette daughter, Samantha new brunette,
new daughter now will give my newbrunette daughter. And our topic tonight is

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Raven Drum Foundation. That I havethat right? Yes? Okay? Good?
And I guess star Rick Allen,Laura Monroe and Rick what do you
do? Just in case people don'tknow who Rick Allen is, I played
drums with Deaf Leopard and hold on, let's play that down. We just
played drums with def Leppard, right, there's like no big deal, there
was no video. Well, I'vebeen doing it for so long, you

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know, it's kind of second natureat this point. I mean, it's
massive, massive blessing, as youcan imagine. But some of the things
that I do outside of that arereally I'm really passionate about, and Raven
Drum Foundation is one of them.Okay, so let's talk about that.
Why did a rock and roller fromdef Leppard back in the years you guys

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started? The band started in seventyseven, and I joined them round about
my fifteenth birthday in nineteen seventy eight. So seventy eight, you're fifteen.
I'm thirteen. So I just figuredout your age and you just figured out
my I'm fifty. What am IYou're going to be sixty? Sam?
Stop, don't go there gonna sayage. You're not missing anything. I'm
not missing thing. It's not thatbig deal. If I have to age,

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you have to age? Yeah,I guess can you age? And
I stopped. So basically, afifteen year old boy is playing in a
rock band that's already made it outthere? Or were you still making it
out there? No, that wasearly days of def Leppard. You know,
we were still playing smaller, smallershows, you know, small venues,

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clubs, and then we kind ofwe got a break in about nineteen
seventy nine. We opened up forlet's see, we opened up for Sammy
Hagar and then we ended up openingup for Sammy Hay. Wasn't he did
he come later? He can't?It was No, Sammy's Samy. Sammy's

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been around for a long time.He was he was with a band called
Montreal. And then yeah, thisthis was this was this was early day.
So really Sammy gave us one ofour first breaks. And then we
opened for ac DC. I rememberhaving my sixteenth birthday at the Hammersmith Odeon

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with ac DC. Now at thatpoint, you're getting star struck. Now,
yeah, I was totally start.How many kids can say they've you
know, they've played on the samestage as ac DC at that age,
you know, so I just feltI felt really blessed. Yeah, so
things have just gone up and outand def Leppert took off in what year?

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When did they really get home?Probably probably? You know, our
first record, our first LP wasin man LP L days mean nineteen eighty
No, kids don't even know whatLP means, but it's okay, No,
And then and then really I thinkI think our big break was nineteen
eighty three with a record called Pyromania. Correct, Yeah, Pyromania. And

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then right after that what then?And we did a record called Hysteria That
was a nineteen eighty seven big breakbetween Pyromania and Hysteria. But that really
blew the doors off. That wasthat was a massive success for the band.
And as you're hearing this music playin the radio, love Bites is
my favorite, by the way.Yeah, it's beautiful song. I mean,

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I it still excites me. Ofcourse. You know, you hear
something that you were involved with,you know, you hear a song and
yeah, I feel really good aboutit. And then you realize that,
you know, tons of other peopleare hearing it as well. So that's
that's a gift. And you guysare still you still run tours. I
see you've got a tour coming up, right, Yeah, we're going to

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be a Fenway. When was itfifth of August? Yeah? Fifth of
August? Fifth? Yeah, theydon't have a roof on that place,
you know. No, no,we don't know. The Red Sox does
not have a roof over that place. So you guys are still toring.
Is everybody still in the band thatstarted as of in the eighties still there?
Or three of us? The newguys been with us maybe? And

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Campbell he's been with us for whattwenty five years and he's the new guy.
Yeah, we've been together for along time. All right, So
now tell me now that people understandwho you are, where you come from,
they're listening. What makes this foundation, Raven Drum Foundation important to you
and your lovely wife by the way, well, right, like, can

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we introduce her? Do we evenintroduce her? I'm so sorry we didn't
do we ladies, gentlemen, loadenand gentlemen, go ahead introduce yourself.
What are you doing besides being hiswife. You have your own business on
the side. Go ahead, we'regonna hit on you for a minute.
I'm Laura Monroe. I'm the cofounder Raven Drum Foundation with my husband,
and I'm been a teacher of energymedicine for over twenty five years. And

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energy medicine is what is energy medicinesounds like it's something I need say,
I think you do well. That'san umbrella term for a lot of different
momentsties you probably know of, likeacupuncture and reiki, breath work, mindfulness
as an element of energy medicine,anything that's not considered allopathic Western medicine that

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has ancient roots and also new rootsbecause there are a lot of things in
neuroscience that are becoming very very popularand very evidence based around how we can
use our mind to heal. AndI've been teaching this for quite a long
time and that's what we bring tothe foundation along with drumming. Okay,
I'm here for that. And thenyou also playing your own band I do.

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I'm a singer songwriter and I tourand you too. You guys must
live a pretty exciting life. We'rebusy, busy. We're really good thing
busy keeps you young. Yeah.And one of the reasons for Raven Drum
Foundation, or the reason I'm sopassionate about it, is if it wasn't
for first responders, I probably wouldn'tbe here. So I think that's why

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I want to get into why RavenDrum Foundation is so important to you.
And I think we should take thisfrom the beginning. So go ahead.
I'm gonna let Lauren explain. Okay, laurens off, this is what this
is what every wife does. Okay, go ahead, we speak for them.
Okay, I don't want to takethe training wheels off yet. All
right, We're good. You goahead, Loine. Well, in two

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thousand and one, right after Rickand I met, we realized that we
both bringing our gifts together and ourknowledge of trauma. His you know,
I'm not sure if you mentioned itin this interview, but everybody who knows
him well knows he lost his armin a car accident when he was twenty
one years old. That was atthe height of his career. So he

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has a history of trauma and mybackground is healing trauma. And so when
we came together, we realized thatnot only drumming, because I'm a drummer,
I'm percussionist myself. That when westarted drumming together and I started giving
him some guidance in how to usehis breath, how to ground himself,
what to do with when he's feelinganxious on stage, all these little tools

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he would be using on stage,and then we would be practicing together.
We thought, you know what,other people can really use this information and
we can help people. So westarted this foundation. Our first populations of
people were in the public school system, special needs. We went into a
juvenile detention center, work with gangkids, safe houses, cancer care centers,

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and then Rick took a trip towell to Read Medical Center in Washington,
d C. And that was intwo thousand and six, and he
was deeply moved by some of theveterans there, the military there that have
lost limbs and immediately created a bondwith them, and we decided that's our
mission. Now, we need toreally focus on veterans. And now we're

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moving into first responders who are veryunderserved and a lot of them have deep
trauma from their work. Thank youfor that. That was very concise.
That was perfect. Okay, thatwas an awesome elevator page Okay, So
I like this all right, SoI get it. I like this foundation
to stand. We're going to gooff to break, and I want to
just ask you this question. Whenwe come back from break, can you

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tell the audience how you lost yourarm? Are we going to go there?
You don't want to go there withyou? Tell me? I can?
I can go in a in abrief way. You want me to
tell you now or after we're goingto go to break. How's that cool?
Okay? You're listening to Cidey Stumpoand we'll be right back. It's
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I'm Sidney Stumpo and I'm here withSamantha and Lauren, Lauren, Lauren and
Ray Allen. Okay remember their names? Yeah, you're sure? Okay,
moving along fast? Okay, seriously, you might forget well, I'm always
forgetting my own name. No,I remember my name, I just can't
remember like little like what's that for? Breakfast? My mother? Your cousins

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before your name? So you mentionedbefore the break about how I lost my
arm. Let's go, it wasa shark attack. A shark had me
on that one, Okay, that'swhat I tell the kids. Or a
shaving accident, a shavy accident,you took your arm off, Yeah,
and that that normally breaks the icewith the kids. But the reality was

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it was a terrible car accident andI I was driving a left hand drive
car in England and I put myfoot down to pass this car that wouldn't
let me pass miles and then Ilost control of the car, rolled the
car and as I rolled the car, the seat belt that I was wearing

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came undone came across my chest andthat took my arm. And as the
car was rolling, I actually leftthrough the south roof and I guess I
bang my head really bad in thein the in that particular accent. So
I long story short, I dida lot of damage to myself and through

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the help of you know, thethe health system in England, they took
care of my physical wounds. Youknow, obviously I ended up losing my
arm, which is devastating for adrama, but there were a lot of
invisible wounds that I didn't necessarily takecare of the time. So I always

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say I'm a I'm a work inprogress, and I'm still working in progress.
Let's call there dramas. Use twoarps for everything, right, most
of them. Okay, you're righting, yeah, left arm right? Yeah
I was. I was very righthanded, you know, right for kicking
a soccer ball around. That's calledthat football over there. Yeah yeah,

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okay, yeah, So in thatrespect, guys are weird football. You
throw the sockey kick with your foot, but it's okay, you guys can
call it football. But here's myquestion to you, what made you decide?
I'm sure after all this, you'rein your own depression, You're in
your own world. What made yougo back behind those drums and say I

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can do this with the band members? There were they there to help you
or they there to lift you up? Was it family? Was it yourself?
How did you get behind those drumsagain with one arm? My brother
was very instrumental. He stayed withme for the whole month. It doesn't
sound like very long, but hestayed with me in the hospital, and

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he lifted me up. He broughtall the music in that inspired me growing
up, and I started tapping outrhythms with my feet, which really helped
me to realize that I could expressmyself in a new way. My family,

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they were really supportive at twenty oneyears old. Now, remember that
you're a kid, I know,I know. Yeah, I had to
do quite a bit of growing upin a very short short amount of time.
I could never have envisioned, youknow, something this terrible was going
to happen. But there were afew people. Matt Lang was a producer

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at the time. He was verysupportive, and he started talking about things
that I could do, whereas Iwas dwelling on the things that I couldn't
do, and that sort of planta seed and then I really discovered the
power of the human spirit and howI could move forward. And I think

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an AHA moment for me was whenI stopped comparing myself to how I used
to be, and stop comparing myyou know, how I used to play,
and stop comparing myself the guy youwere prior to losing it up.
Yeah, I think we all dothat in our wrong way. Like I
still compare myself to be in twentyfive when I'm not twenty five anymore,
right, So, like you know, it's like, remember, remember like

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remember these and remember so you hadto do a whole I hate this word.
Everybody knows this word, but youdid a complete mindset. I use
the words you did a complete,a complete brain reset. But the world
the new word is mindset. SoI'll go with it. I suppose.
I suppose in many ways yes,And I'm still doing that to this day.

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You know, there's always something new, and it's been it's been good
and bad along the way. Butmeets the first time you get back on
stage one arm, not in yourhome, not playing around yourself, not
playing with family, You're on thatstage, people looking at you, and
you have one arm. Did youfeel like you crushed it that night?

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I did. I was very conservative. I kept I kept thinking simple,
and as a bit of a safetynet, I actually took out another drama
with me, a guy called JeffRich who I'm really grateful that he was
there with me. So they broughtback up just in case, what in
case you was in case went wrong. You know, electronic drums in those

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days, because I remember I'm usingmy feet on these electronic foot pedals,
and you know, it was itwas different, and it was it was
a newer sort of technology, youknow, being able to play electronic drums
as opposed to acoustic drums. Soit was nice to have somebody next to
me that was playing an acoustic drumkit in case something went wrong. And

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this was a small tour. Wedid a warm up tour for a bigger
show that we were going to beplaying in you know, in about a
week or so. That ended upwe ended up actually playing a venue called
Donnington in England, and that wasthis giant festival. So we did a

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few warm up shows and remember thefirst night was great, you know,
myself and Jeff, we'd rehearsed reallywell, We practiced these songs really really
well together. And then the secondnight I ended up playing part of the
show on my own and then hewould come and join me on stage.

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And then the third night he'd gonehome because we had a day off in
between, and he missed this flighton the way back. The flight was
Cancler. Yeah, security blanket's gone. Now, yeah, my security blanket's
gone. So I ended up playingmost of the show on my own,
and then when he came and satdown next to me because he finally got

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a fly. The rest of theguys in the band said well, we
didn't really notice any different, soI was like, well that was good,
you know. And then we endedup playing this show in Waterford and
it was more like it. Itwas more like a bar, very small,
very small stage, and one ofthe crew called me and said,

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well, the place isn't big enoughto get two dram kits on the stage.
Do you want to have a playingon your own? And I said,
yeah, I'd love to. SoI played the show that night on
my own and after the show,Jeff Rich came up to me and it

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was beautiful the way he did it. He just said, I guess I'm
going home tomorrow and that's it,and that was it. That was the
beginning of me doing this on myown and having the confidence to drive a
band, you know, like likedef Leopard. You know, it's crazy
because you look at this generation.They don't know music, Like they listen

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to whatever they're spinning. I canhear it next door, right, they're
spinning. But to me, goingto watch a band back in the day,
or even MTV VH one back inthe day when they just played videos
after videos, right, I alwaysthought the drummer was the sexy guy,
right, that's as a young girl. That's why I saw not the bass
play, not the guitar. Soyou married the sexy drummer, right,

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So that was just my take,the drummer like he made the band.
I don't know why. You know, all my favorite bands today it's always
the drummer, right. Is thatit's just that me? Or is that
a lot of people that watch bandsback in the day. I think everyone
has their own favorite personal connections.What do you like to watch when you're

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watching? I watch everyone I do. I watch when I watch him,
I watch him the most because Iknow when that starts slipping those you know,
but fine, and then they're they'redoing there what's that called? Oh,
stick twirling? You know what Ithink it is? Down left right?
You know what I think is Ithink there's something primal about drumming.

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It's probably the most ancient form thereis in any band. You know,
drumming has been around in every culturemost thousands of years. I thought we're
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And I'm here with the beautiful Samanthaand the beautiful Lauren and the unbelievable,
amazing, handsome what's my name again? Rick Allen? I'm used to
doing this for her all the time? What's my name again? No,
you said pick it up where weleft off, and I forgot what I
was saying. Oh, that's normal. It happens to me all the time.
I think it was the bang onthe head that did it. We
can use that as an excuse,all right, he says, menopause.

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No, he would be low testAustralia. I would be metopause. Okay,
So does the remember what we werejust talking about. No, So
that's it. We're going to clearthat road. Okay. You were talking
about how the second the second guysaid to him, I guess I'm going
home now respectfully said it to himnicely that he could do it on his
own now. And then we startedtalking about why everybody thinks, well not

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everybody, why some people think theDramma is the most sexy guy in the
band, and then I started andthen I started talking about well because it's
the most ancient form. You know, you said it was crimal. It
happens back to you know, dancingaround in loin cloths or less. You
know, so I don't remember thosedays. I just say the drama is
a sexy guy out there. Idon't know why. It's the alms,

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it's the whole thing. The drumstake'sgoing everywhere. Okay, can you both
of you shure a memoral experience fromyour charity work that deeply impacted both of
you together, not as one.There are so many I think most recently

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last year and this year. Thishappened at two different events, and you
couldn't plan this, so this wasn'tsomething that we created per se. But
we work with various people that gothrough trauma. On on two different occasions,
we had people that have lost childrencome and we had this one incident.

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We had eight people come to thisevent that lost children, and one
of these people recognized a first responderthere that was the one that came to
the scene, uh and found herdaughter in a car accident and was the
one that lifted her out of thecar and she was what she she came
to her daughter, She came tothe drum circle for healing, this drum

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event for healing, and so didthis first responder. They did not know
each other, but then they realizedthat they were together at the scene of
her daughter's death at the accident.He was one of the first responders that
came, and she recognized him,and there was this moment really deep healing
where the two of them, youknow, remembered this event and reconnected and

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we have This happened quite a bitbecause we mix our events with first responders,
veterans, people in crisis, andthere's such a synergy with a lot
of them, and this one wassomething we couldn't plan uh, And that
happened quite a few times just recently, where it was just created by something
bigger than us. But what happensduring during these events and during these circles

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that people begin to experience their traumain a more intimate way. Because most
of the time we're managing trauma,we're managing our thoughts were either in the
past or in the future. Beingin the moment is too painful, and
so when we bring people together withthe rhythms and with the cues and how
to breathe and how to be withour pain. Together as a group,

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the walls start coming down. We'reable to access We're able to see each
other in ways that we don't normallysee strangers in a room, and we
all become this have this family connection. And I know that's not a specific
uh uh incident that I'm speaking about, but every single event uh is very
profound for people, and all we'redoing is guiding them to a place to

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feel their pain in a way that'ssafe and musical. I have a question,
does everybody walk around with trauma oris it just a generation that we
just tell everybody our trauma now?Because God knows, our grandparents and our
parents didn't talk about trauma, right, they did not talk about it.
But you know, if you askthe veterans from the I call them the
secret generation. By the way,an ancestry is bringing everything out now.

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People have had kids that they didn'thad kids, thought their mothers were their
fathers and their father So that secretgeneration, all the secrets are coming out
now. Well we have this somethingcalled generational trauma too. What is okay?
So look it. I know it'skind of funny and I'll use me
as an excuse. Since twenty sixyears old, I've had crippling panic disorder.
Right, I don't know when mytrauma is like I've went, I've

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talked like literally, I can't findthe trauma that gives me these panic attacks.
Right. So, after at twentysix years old they first hit up,
I literally said to doctor, couldthese be genetic? Nope, Cindy,
panic attacks or trauma? Could theybe hormonal? No? No,
no no. Twenty years later,after twenty years of dealing with them,
we find out they are genetic andthey could be hormonal. Right. But

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twenty years that I walked around them, I can't find anything in my life
that should cause me from thinking I'mdying at the moment, right. So,
and I don't really see where Ihave had trauma, but it be
around me has had trauma. SoI'm trying to figure out where's my trauma
right right. That is such abrilliant thing to bring up because it's not

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about the story of the trauma,because the trauma is in the body.
And I work with a really beautifulman, a scientist. His name is
doctor Bruce Slipton, and he wrotethe book The Biology of Belief and in
our cellular memory, we hold traumaand and we can you know, we
can be perceiving trauma as ours andhave panic attacks and have these moments where

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we're built out of control and don'tremember what caused it. That's it's a
normal thing, just being you know, trauma can happen in the womb even
before you end. Okay, itis true that trauma can carry on from
generations and be passed down one hundredreally ancestral baggage is what I call it.
Anyway, So I could be carriedmy great great great great grandmother's boy.

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Yeah, And I think that's thebeautiful thing about learning how to be
with your body and being able toit doesn't matter. The story of the
trauma doesn't matter because it's a story. What happened to your body is the
thing that you want to connect withand clear and learn how to regulate your
nervous system and be aware. Youknow, when that panic attack, when

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that's diet. You can't reason withme for twenty minutes, right, that's
it. I'm dying, but I'vebeen dying since twenty six. Eventually I
want to die, right, Eventuallyit's going to happen. That's really going
to die. But no, they'revery they're very scary, and I keep
looking for the trauma. But likeyou're saying, it could be my mother's
trauma or my grandmother's trauma. Mom, you say all the time that you're
very empathic, so maybe you're feelingeverybody else's trauma that very umpthing too.

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Yes, I think you know empathicsensitive people. I think the most important
thing is to learn what is someoneelse's energy and emotions and what your own
is, because then it becomes thismixed bag of energy and emotions and you
don't know who's who's. And Ithink that's so important. I've noticed people
born under certain signs, like I'ma cancer one on that cancer sign.

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It seems like we have the mostempathetic and EmPATH people ever. Like you
tell me something, I feel it. If I watch a video somebody getting
beat up in the video which allthese crazy videos, my algorithm has changed
on my Twitter, so it's onebad video of and I get like I
can feel it. It's a horrible, it's a curse in the blessing.
But to go back, my questiontoo, is when you're dealing with all

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this and this foundation, how doyou leave it behind you? And go
home and have a normal life withyour husband and you with your wife,
Like, how do you not takethis type of work home with you?
I learned at an early age howto protect myself and everything we do and

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what we create comes from really beingvery very conscious and learning where to put
our mind and our intention and beingvery familiar with our own heart. And
you have to set boundaries psychically andwith your mind to be able to hold
the space. And also for me, it's believing in a higher power,
like everything that happened in someone else'slife and I'm a witness to that moment

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when they're sharing their pain. I'mnot saving them. There's a higher power
that's guiding them. And in thatmoment, I hold the space and someone
has a moment of healing, andI know that that will continue for them.
And I learned the hard way.I was I'm an empathic healer similar

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to you, but I'm also aphysical impath. So I started working with
cancer care patients, patients in theoncology ward. Back when I first started
doing this work, I would startexperiencing the side effects of chemo when I
went home, and it wasn't me. I wasn't getting a br I'm a
Virgo, but I'm a Scorpio moon. And there's a lot about astrology that

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I would break down because it's notjust about your son's sign but h so,
and it's about how your brain iswired too, and and and my
brain was wired to feel everybody allthe time. And so if someone was
having a panic attack, I wouldfeel it, uh and physically I would

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start feeling it. And so Ilearned very quickly that you have to create
these these these boundaries. Yeah,and if I don't, I don't know
that word. By the way,it's essential because if you don't, your
life will You'll suffer more, especiallywhen you're trying to help people. Well
that thought, I'm sinny standpoint.Listen to Toughest Nails on w BS Oh

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City. Stumpo Toughest Nails on WBCNews Radio ten thirty and I'm we're actually
laughing every time we go to breakthe best questions are asked, it's always
the best questions when we go tobreak Samantha. Yes, can you introduce
every morning? Rick? Okay,perfect, because some people come in halfway
through, right, So I justad laurens and virgos. So I said

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to Rick, when's the last timeyou want to fight on an argument?
And would you say Rick every day? And I said, no, I
think I win the fight, butin reality, I I I don't.
Rco always wins. Yeah, Iknow, you know they say the way
you being a water sign and herbeing earthed, she probably levels you out
a lot. She does well,I'm an Italian virgo. She has five

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votes. I know, well,well, I win, but he thinks
he does and that makes it allgood. No, she makes me think
I win. Yeah, she makesyou think that's it. But the thinkin
what's your rising scorpio, oh risingcapricorn, it doesn't matter. The Virgo's
loyal and that's all that matters.And the virgo's got a big hot too.
I know. I got a virgoas a son and I got there's

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daughter. So tell me about whatis coming? What what do you see
for this mission that you're on?Like where we go in here with this
mission. What's going to finally makeyou guys feel like you've you've hit the
home run, Like okay, we'vewe've made this successful. We feel good

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because see you start talking trauma.Now we can start talking about other trauma.
Like we got kids. I don'tknow if you're following in every eleven
minutes somebody's diameter of a fatanyl overdoseright between the age of I think eleven
twelve to twenty eight, right,you were in the scene of you know,
rock and roll sex, rock androll drugs. That was the error

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of the eighties. You know,we didn't really have people dying of snow
and coke back in nineteen you know, eighty two. It just kind of
was unheard of. And now weget kids dying every eleven minutes, right,
and I've been following that. That'smore trauma coming like wee do you
guys stop? Weir? Do youcross the boundaries? Like we can't take

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everybody into our foundation because now youget parents that are losing children to one
pill right that they might buy atschool an adderall or when you look around
what's going on in our country?I don't know. For some reason,
on my Twitter, my algorithm I'vetrained it in three days to watch all
the most terrific videos, right kidsbeating each other up to death, putting

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them in seizes, putting them incombers, dying parents trying to figure out
how to lose my kids, settingmy kids school. So there's so much.
This world's got so much, evencrazy. It's just not the veterans,
everything you've been paying attention to.It's the reality of what's coming down
the road to us. Absolutely,and I think I'm gonna just just absolutely

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because the goal is collaboration and bringingin people. We have a platform,
and I think we can't heal everysingle person it just the two of us
and and take care of them andeducate them. But as a team,
we can't like people like you talkingabout this issue. We have a group
we started a couple of years agocalled twelve Drummers Drumming as part of our

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organization, and it's a list oflegendary drummers who come forward and that we
do auctions. Right now, wehave an auctions Rocksteady do give smart dot
Com and they sign memorabilia and theyalso speak out around the problems that we
have around trauma and general that cometo events. We have folks like Joey
Kramer for em Rassman, and there'sJoey and Wally Ingram from Sheryl Crow and

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Todd Trushaman from Styx, and thelist goes on, and they're all showing
up because they understand trauma and andthey're speaking about it as well. I
think we need to be champions ofhealing. There's a lot of people that
have been through a lot of thingsand they're overcome it, and we have
to share how we did it.Not only not only musicians, but also

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now we're collaborating with teachers, teachersthat are our consciousness teachers and scientists to
teach of what's going on in ourbrain when we have a we have a
disconnect, a serious disconnect in ourIn our younger generation, you think,
yeah, well, the thing is, they don't they not even know what
it's head and mind disconnect and minddisconnect. We're in a crazy world right

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now, so we have to emulatewhat is healed ourselves. The way to
help another person is to heal yourselfand teach someone how you did it.
And that's why they see heal people, heal people and hurt people. Hurt
people one percent. It starts fromus. It starts from us, and
once we heal us, we workwith our own families, we work with
our community, and then it's aripple effect and then we come on and

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shows like this and we talk toyou, and then the people that are
listening can go, how can Ichange things? Can I? How can
I change things in my family?How can I change things for myself?
But here in lies the problem thatI see is that Rick, if you
could talk to Rick at fifteen orhow old you were and you got on
the accident twenty one, twenty,if Rick today could talk to a twenty

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one year old Rick, he wouldgive him good advice. But twenty one
year old talking to twenty one yearold Rick, you thought what you're twenty
one? Like, life has nomeaning. I'm just gonna go and enjoy
my life like we can't get Ifwe could get younger people to think a
little bit more maturely and look atlife like, what would you say to

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yourself today at twenty one and twentyone? Yeah, I'm gonna get a
roll this car. I'm gonna dowhat I want to do. And it's
a cocky attitude that we all haveat that age, and some of the
more punky than others. I knowI was kind of punky. I didn't
take any from nobody, right,that was nothing happened. If I wasn't
so full of myself, I maybe sitting here with two arms. But

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there again, if I was,if I had two arms, we probably
wouldn't be having this conversation to startwith. So in many ways, you
know, people have said, well, you know, what would you do
differently? And the first time youRick talking to twenty one year Rick,
Yeah, well, just having afive minute if you go back five minutes

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in time that day, what wouldyou say, Just have the patients and
stay behind the car. I thinkI think that, Yeah, you know,
the tendency to be hot headed oryou know, to to have a
short fuse. You know, ifif somebody was in my way, if

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there was a car are in myway that wouldn't let me pass, then
the lesson would have been patience.Isn't it funny? You know you're in
a hurry and you're always sitting behindthe slowest driver on the pope, always
on my way here tonight, yes, yeah, so, and the idiot
doesn't want to move. But it'sthat you go like, well, maybe

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I'm sitting behind this car or thistruck or this railway crossing. I'm sitting
here for a reason. Maybe justthat little bit of time difference is going
to save me from something far worse. But we don't think that way.
We don't think. So when you'redoing what you do, can you get

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into kids' heads? Like, canyou get into these kids that thought the
way? He thought the way lookat everybody in this room at twenty one,
two, twenty five, twenty eight, at a younger age, like
life is precious. We don't knowlife is. I knew life was precious
when I had gave birth to Samantha. That was a game changer for me.
Right, you hold this baby andyou go, oh my god,
my holy, oh my god.My whole life changed. So if we

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can get into young kids' heads,that's what I try to do. That's
where I donate my time trying totalk to these kids. Teach them the
skill gap, teach them the trades. Get into the trades. Not every
kid's made for college. Calm downthe cockiness, calm down that behavior.
Life is precious. I just wantmy son all the time, right,

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He thinks life's been whatever. YouI'll just go out and be a thirteen
year old daughter. You understand thatmindset, and I think you're doing everything
you say is the most essential isto give them a voice, let them
know they're significant, that there,that their their opinions matter, and teach
them how to listen to their intuitionand be able to vocalize it and validate

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them and teach them. They thinka little weird this generation. They're very
weird. I see, I'm verylittle bit acial. I see a very
food, superficial mindset. And becauseof social media, I think, and
you know, even if you comefrom the most holistic home with a lot
of integrity, uh, they're stillexposed to that mindset as being better and

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you know, more innovative and cooland and that's okay, that's how they're
going to think. But in theend, your roots kind of will steer
you at some point in your lifebecause you have to make a decision on
what kind of person you want tobe. Can we just bring back some
old school values, some old someof the I did that with my kids.
I did, and having them aroundthe grandparents and having that's been important

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to me. Right, they seempretty normal. Yeah, she seems pretty
normal. She's my cuckoo eries right, and then I get a cuckoo she.
You know, it's one thing tolove your children, but when you
can honestly say I like you,I like her like I love my children,
but I like her. There aredays I don't like her, but

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I always love her, right,But there's more days I like her,
and then I get the virgo.I love him, and then there are
days I don't like him, Andyou don't you want to like your child.
Once you like your children, youknow you're going down to good path.
Although I thought we're going to break. I'm Sidy Stump when you listened
to w BZ News Radio ten thirtyand we'll be right back and welcome back

(40:32):
to taugh as Nails. I'm CindySTUMPO and WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
Go ahead, you take us out. I just want to remind people to
go and visit us. How dothey find your Ravendrumfoundation dot org. I'll
come see us on social media.Lauren Monroe Live, Rick Allen Live,
and just take an interest in becomingpart of our community and healing through music

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and alternative medicine and supporting first responders, veterans and people enter crisis. Music
is the key. I think musicis the way for all of us to
come together. As there any boxesor yeah, yeah, I'll be coming
back to Boston with Deve Leppard,I think fifth of August and then people

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can check out where else in thecountry we're going to be. But we
love coming to Boston, so we'llsee August fifth fantastic at Fanway Park.
Okay, everybody, have a great, safe weekend. This is Cindy Stampo
w BZ News Radio ten thirty.We'll see you next weekend.