Homeless To Homeowner

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For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpohas been a female homebuilder with a passion
for design, a mastery of detail, and a commitment to her crack.
With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I don't need my whole family on
a date with me. That's agood note. It's goddemn weird. See.
Stumpo Development is the only second generationfemale construction company in the country.
You're crazy, You're a wacko,You're insane. I mean, it just

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doesn't end together. Cindy and Samanthawelcome guests to explore the world of construction,
real estate, development, design andmore. Here unpredictable. Every time
I think I know what you want, you'd switch it out. But that's
what makes sure houses all Udy discussanything that happens between the roof and the
foundation. Nothing is off limits.You truly do care about everybody. She
can yell at, you can scream, but when you get her alone,

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she's the best person on the planet. Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails and
welcome to Cidey Stumpo Toughest Nails onWBZ News Radio ten thirty and I'm Cidey
stumpo and I'm here with who andLa Kenya Rivers? Sure, yeah,

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okay, as long as you knowyour name? Okay, please, how
is your bio? Yes, soI'm La Kenya Rivers. I am a
wife of almost thirteen years. Yeah, it's going good through the pandemic,
right, that's all? Oh,yes, exactly. I am the mother

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of five children. Yeah, threethat I birth and two of my bonus
children. What's bonus bonus? Mystep daughters? Okay, yes, five
kids? We got the Brady Bunchtrouble. Yeah, almost, and then
I raised my sister and then birtha nonprofit. Okay, what is your

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sign? What are you? I'ma liver, so i am. I'm
a little bit of booth. Ihave some good son and I have bad
side if you get on my goodside, but you make a decision.
Oh yes, okay, Oh yes, So you've been nominated for So I've
been nominated for several awards. Butback in I want to say, I

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can't think of the year, butI was unsunged. Right, my brain
is already a scrambled egg with cheese. Not what I always tell them,
But yeah, I was an unsungheroin with the State House and the Women's
Commission. And I took that andleveraged Family Movement, which is a nonprofit

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agency working with homeless families. AndI started by just building self worth.
Okay, but I'm still I wantto build your bio here. Okay.
You were featured in Boston Herald asa success story from young mother to role
model. Yes, okay, let'snot forget that. You're also featured on
the Chronicle right on wcvbm HM.That was one of my hottest interviews,

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was the Chronicle. By the way, I know, and I don't know
why I had. No, Ihad a panic attack and I ran out
the front of him and I hadto walk up and down the sidewalks and
then come back in like, yeah, I don't know it was I had
panck attacks. Oh my god.But people should know you're back. Yeah,
all right, go ahead and I'lllet you go. Yeah, so
people to know. Yeah, no, thank you for pointing that out,

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because when it happens so long agoand then you're in the trenches, yeah,
you do forget. And I'm amom, I'm a wife, you
know, in the community in church. Here's my question too, as another
woman that seems to think she's superwomantoo. Did you get ten minutes yourself
a day or do you wait tilllike late at night that you get that
time to yourself late at night too, when the house goes down everybody's sleeping.

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Yep, you get that half anhour, forty five minutes and like,
yeah, it doesn't matter it tone o'clock in the wine, you're
gonna stay up and enjoy that exactly. And at least once a month,
I try to do some self care, but then my husband goes, oh,
let me come along into a spotday with you, and you're like,
yeah, how about let's not andsay we did? Yeah, yeah,
okay, But then it's nice tohave him around. So I don't

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know, listen, it is whatis is? I've learned Superwoman doesn't exist.
I think you've learned that. Howold you know? Oh gosh forty
two? Okay, So last timeyou on my show was what five years
ago? Five years ago? Alot has changed in five years. I
see beautiful, Yeah, no,you look beautiful. She looks beautiful.
I'm five years older now you're stillhot. Yeah you still I'm a milf?

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Yeah? Is there a new word? Is there a new word?
After milth. Did anything new comeup? I don't think so. So,
but in that five years that onestuck, That one stuck came along
because that was before what was thatdilf? What's a dilf? The opposite
of milk? Oh? Whatever?That means. Okay, you'll fill me
in later. So in five years, how much has your life changed?
Wow, because every five to sevenyears it changes. Oh yes, yes,

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and I don't mean personal growth.I mean in your business. Along
with personal growth, you see lifedifferently. Yeah, years later, yep,
five years ago. I think wewere on the show before the pandemic.
Then the pandemic happened. Yes,through the grace of God, we
did not lose any income. Weactually the nonprofit actually gained income during the

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pandemic because we were helping more familiesthat was losing income. So my personal
household, we actually with all thatfree money that was going around, I
know, I know, And soit helped the families that we serve in
the community. But in my personallife, I felt like it it pivoted

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us to just kind of relax.You know, my job went virtual.
So a lot of the workshops thatwe were doing with the families and the
shelters. We went one virtual,which was new for us because we've done
work inside of the show. Sowhat has really tell me how you guys
are doing now because a lot ofpeople might miss the show five years ago,

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So bring us back from then tonow absolutely, and what you guys
have accomplished in that fart? Yeah? Yeah, So Family Movement was birth
for my own personal experiences in twothousand and nine, and we became a
five to one C three in twentyten. And the reason why you did
all this, Yes, let's gothere. I am a product of a

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mom who was a substance abuser,so I constantly ran away from home.
And in the midst of me runningaway from can you imagine her running home,
running away from home? No?No, she's like so polyanna right,
why she had kids there? Yougo, right, yeah, but
you're so you just don't look likea girl that would run away from home.
Like you look like a girl that'dbe afraid to run away from home.

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And honestly, I don't like agirl that would run away from home,
right, but you don't look likea girl that would run away from
home like you was just like twoeloquent and articulate and like, I'm the
good girl in school, and yes, that's our thing. Homelessness doesn't have.
You can go to a Dunkin Donutand that person be homeless or living
in a homeless shelter. So inthe midst of me running away from home,

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I became a teen mom. Iwas eighteen years old when I had
my daughter, and I was inthe shelter for a whole year, and
I got every aspect of what Ineeded to know as a teen mother,
moving into my own apartment, transitioninginto the work and field, going back
to school at night, and thenI said I want to go back into

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the shelter. Then that's where theBoston Herald article came from, because I
went into the homeless shelters and juststarted pouring into these mothers that just needed
to know that this is not whereyou're predestined to be. You're going to
leave here, You're gonna have anamazing life. You're going to set your
goals and a sword from there.And what's the percentage in the homeless shelters

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that can do what you do.It's a lot of tenacity to do what
you did. I would say,you give yourself a lot of credit for
that. Absolutely, absolutely, Iwill say on an assessment base, because
the nonprofit Family Movement does do assessmentsfor every single client that we work with.

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They it's probably fifteen percent walk outof there and are willing to go
back. And that's what we do. We hire families that move out of
shelter into their own apartments, andwe pay them to go back into homeless
shelters around Massachusetts and do workshops.We do twelve months. So hold on.

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You pay these women whoever that livethere and have moved on with their
lives the fifteen percent to give backtheir time. But they won't go give
back their time for free. Theycharge the organization. They know they won't.
They'll go back, but it's justour love offering to them. It's
not even a payroll, it's astipend. You go back and you teach

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the women what you knew. Wedo have experts that do the workshops for
the families, but that workshop leaderis the one who kind of runs every
day. Okay, well that Ithought we're gonna go to break. I'm
Sidney Stumborley. Listen Toughest Nails onw Z News Radio. Ten thirty views
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I'm Sidny Stumbley. Let's send toughestnails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
Pick it up where we left itoff for sorry. Yeah, so commercials
make our radio show keep going,no worries. So yeah, you had
asked about the moms us paying themom's UH stipend, And yes, we

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do compensate their time. We valuetheir parenting because one of the workshops that
we do with these families is parentingskills. And so if they are going
to leave their child to help usdo something to better another person's life,
I got it. Yeah, wedo help daycaree exactly. Yep. Okay,

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so it's fifteen percent how the homelessshelter is doing. Right now.
I don't even want to go therewith you because right now I'm going to
be very disappointed because I'm very disappointedin our own city. What's going on?
Right So here's this is my feeling. And I don't shave the truth,

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and I don't care. I don'tcare. If I cared, I
wouldn't have a radio show, right, Like, I believe, take care
of our own people first. Absolutely. Okay, so I have a problem
with what's going on in our state. I won't deny it. We have
too many people in our state thatneed our help. Homeless kids going to
bed, hungry. We can getinto this deeper, right that. Now

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you come in across the border andyou're in Massachusetts, and you get a
credit card, you get a cellphone, you get a school, and
you get medical, you get this, and that this is going to be
making your organization crazy, like youwant to pull your hair out of your
head. Yes, so explain tomy listeners. Yes, because there's a
lot of us that feel your pain. Okay, we feel the same way
as well, but we have tobe a little bit more non biased because

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they're also homeless. Right, Solet me back up Family Movement. We
are a nonprofit agency, So ifyou look at us, look at us
as kind of like a once sityou can be politically correct. That don't
have to be, but go ahead, Okay. We're like a one stop
shop. So we work with theclient and then we also work with the
homeless shelters, the property managers,realtors when they get to that homeowner stage,

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and all of the resources in between. So if they need a mental
therapist, if they need anything withphysical awareness, and mental therapists are very
hard to find right now, Too'stalk about that, right. Yeah,
they're not on every street quarter anyothNo, they're not no education, workforce
development, financial literacy. So wework with those experts inside of the homeless

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shelters. Right now, it's ahousing crisis like no other. In general.
If we get a referral for afamily that's looking for housing, the
list is bookoo long because of themigrants that are coming in. So as
the migrants come in and we don'teven know these people. We don't know
where they grew up, we don'tknow where they live, we don't know

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what they're coming in with. Wedon't know if they're rapists, good people,
murdered. We have no idea.No, Okay, at least you
can background check somebody that's homeless inMassachusetts and figure out where they're raised,
maybe who their parents were, weren'tyoung, you know, a teenager whatever.
You have no cluees coming, butyou have to let them in and

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come together in these homeless shelters exactly. And a lot of them aren't even
going into the homeless shelters because there'sno room. How's that going? So
when they make room, then it'sprobably a handful of families. So right
now, a shelter, let's justsay shelter A, has twelve families in
it. Usually when we do workshops, we don't do no more than twelve

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because we like to make a morepowerful impact. So if a shelter has
twelve families and it one person movesinto stable housing, then maybe a migrant
from wherever their house will go intothat shelter. So it's not like it's
a group of them going into theseemergency shelters. What they have done with
the migrants is they have they're nowopening up community centers. I know,

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they're opening up buildings. Some probablyare still at the airport, so they're
housing them. And it's not justthe state of Massachusetts issue. This is
a government issue now and because thestate allows it, these families exactly.
So we've taken away a lot ofinner city areas for kids that go play

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basketball, hangout schools, that thecafeterias. I'm surprised that the inner city
kids and parents aren't actually losing theirminds because they should be. No,
they are and We're hearing the complaintsas well because we are hoping to build

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our first brick and mortar in Dorchesterarea, which is maybe about two blocks
from where one of those community centerswas taken and turned into a migrant stationery.
We were recently asked from the stateto be at one of the locations

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and help with the migrants. Sowe do have interpreters to help with the
families. So it's it's by thesepeople to be calm a little off.
I mean, what's been your runningSo what I'm seeing on Twitter is not
good. Yeah, I mean nota lot of locations are provided with the

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workshops that these families need to getback into the workforce. I'm seeing more
men than i am seeing women andchildren, so that's another thing. I'm
not really on the South Shore.There are women and children and limited men,
so I'm not sure if maybe theyhave the men at different locations.
But we have not started working witha migrant cohort. We do work inside

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the shelters where we may have oneor two Haitian speaking, uh Spanish speaking
migrants. No, it's it's it'sactually funny because I always say this.
I leveled up with the Brazilian communitythey like fifteen eighteen years ago, right,
and they came in. They werehard working people, no trouble,

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never ever had any trouble in construction. They wanted to. They follow the
Sabbath like Jewish people's Saturdays, theday of worship, good husbands, good
father like I of all the SouthAmerican Brazilians I've worked with in construction,
and anybody that's listening knows that's abig part of Massachusetts construction community. They're

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good guys. They own homes,they've leveled up. They came here and
said we're gonna go. We wantto work. We're not here to start
trouble. And that's not what I'mseeing. Like what I'm seeing, and
I got to get off Twitter.I gotta be perfectly honest because I go
home. I go to bed everynight watching twenty twenty five videos. And

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that is absolutely for somebody like meborn on the cancer side. I'm so
EmPATH and which my next time I'mcoming back as a Gemini, watch that
night after night after night. Nowmy whole algorithm is like that, right,
you don't change your algorith I guessstart looking at birds and winding unicorns
to change tonight, change my algorithm. At this point, you could even

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just talk about it and your phonehere's you, and it targets you,
time, everything, everything on mySo I'll sense my friends and they'll go,
stop changing my When you stop watchingthis, it opens your eyes to
the real world. And I liketo live in the real world. I'm
not living in a world with flyingpink unicorns. My neighbors can do that
in Brookline. My neighbors can dothat in Newton, right, they can
do that in west and they cando that in Wellesley. Yep, I'm

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real life. I want to knowwhat's going on. That's me and I
think you know. And I havea fiance that goes, why do we
need to see this? Because thisis the world we're living in. And
if you like this world, thengood for you. But I don't like
this world. And we've had conversations, real conversations as to why would you
put migrants in a low income areaversus putting them in a area like Wellesley,

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New and exactly, But it doesn'thappen that way, does it.
So again, it's tough, andit's a year in with all of this.
Don't worry because there were the governor, don't worry, are trying to
figure it out. They're all comingout. They're just robbing. Yeah,
okay, so we have a hightheft rate right now, extremely high theft
rate. So they might not beliving there, but they're getting they're getting

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the Prodder and the Gucci and theRimez and the Rolexes and everything else and
going somewhere else. Right So,looking, we're all living in crazy times,
crazy time, and the only onesthat have can change this is the
politicians. Exactly and where that's going, I don't know, because Massachusetts as
we know it seems to be lookat it's it's all over the world right

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now. Yeah, New York isworse than us. New York's terrible.
Yeah, Like who wants to gothere? I don't even want to go
there anymore. Like, don't evenyou invite me for a wedding. I'm
not coming. I'll send you abeautiful gifts. Do not I'm not coming.
Don't expect me there. Last timeI was there was a year with
I got COVID. I'm walking out. Gosh, Saint Regis. They tell
me put my pocketbook, my jewelryaway. This is crazy. Don't go

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out there. I'm like, wheream I? I'm a Madison fifty fifth.
What's gonna happen to me? Oh? I see what's happening now?
I just went across street to geta hot dog advanced. I'll have a
hot dog when you landed. Youyou gotta get a hot dog, right.
I'm like, Okay, that's notfor me, but for what you're
seeing out there is not making yourlife any easier. It's making it heart
tiring. And to any CEO leaderthat's in the nonprofit world, I would

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like to just personally just make sureyou are doing some self care. Okay,
hold that. I thought we gotto go to break again. I'm
sitting stumping you. Listen to Topthe Nails on WBZ news Radio ten thirty
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And I'm sitting stump Listen The ToughestNails on WBZ News Radio ten thirty.
Sammy, how are you doing,honey? I'm good? How are you
you? Hold on over there?I am okay. I can't even call
you my blondie anymore. You reallygot to get over this. I'm sorry
you've been a blonde up until sixmonths ago, Like seriously, Like you
just go and change things after thirtyfive years? Yeah, I do.
Okay, Well, now I can'tcall you my brunette because you're my blondie.

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She's my bondie now she doesn't Idon't know. She's beautiful. Yes,
okay, she's got a kind heYes, Okay, we'll go back
finish where we talk about because Ialways love talking to you. I know,
I think we were we were,you know, just talking and I
won't even tell you anybody why Ilove her husband by to love her husbands.
She'll tell her husband later, butgo ahead. Oh he'll love to

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hear that. Yeah. I thinkit's just a matter of this whole housing
crisis with the migrants and what arethey going to do here in our state?
Tell me what the plan is?Do you have a plan? No
one has a planting off their hip, right, I think it's just going
off the hip and trying to seewhat the needs are. There was just
a call last night with I don'tmean to interrupt you, but how many

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homeless people do we have on thestreets right now? In Massachusetts. So
Family Movement works with emergency shelter families. The difference is these are single moms
with children, so we work inthe homeless shelters. So I think overall,
without dividing those, it's about eighteenthousand, probably more than that I've

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seen in the numbers lately. Itcan vary between thirty six thousand. I
know the mayor just did a wholenother consensus on you know, couch surfing
is also considered. Anyone that's doubledup sleeping on a family roomer's couch can
also be considered homeless as well.All those numbers can vary between eighteen and

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thirty six thousand. And now withthe migrants, I haven't seen those numbers,
but we're sure we don't want todo it. I'm sure they have
grown because they're everywhere. Now,you being where you are in life,
and you don't have to ask thisquestion if you don't want to answer,
it's you don't have to. I'man open book, Okay. Would you
just take strangers like this, notAmerican people? Would you take people not

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boring our country and just bring themto your home with your five children?
So and you have a big heartand this is what I have and a
big, big heart. And myhusband's like, you need to chills a
little bit. I would say no, but I will find them a place,
okay, And I make I respectthe honesty because some people won't answer

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that honestly, right, And youjust did and you give your whole life
to this to homeless? How manypeople have ended up from homeless to home
ownership in our program? We nowhave four families and our first male who
just got preapproved to purchase his home. So we in Massachusetts so expensive.

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Yeah, yeah, this is ourprogram though, but there are other programs
out there. We're literally the familiesthat are moving into home ownership they have
experienced homelessness. So that's our program. Where this person that in our program
that is purchasing a home, theyhave been homeless before within the past ten

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years. Okay. Do they havea job, yes, so we make
sure oh yeah, there's definitely rules. We make sure that they are over
kind of middle class, so aboutfifty to sixty thousand dollars at least,
and how they go from homeless tomaking fifty sixty thousand and so they find
programs like ours, but we arestarting in the homeless shelters because we want

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these families to be very aware ofyour financial literacy, your your financial security
for your life. You teach themhow credit, every how credit works,
yes, and how not to getback in a problem that you got into
in the first place, exactly,and to not rely on the government,
which we were just talking about,right, they do not rely on the
government. You work, you'll bemaking more than what the government can give

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you if anything happens. Yeah,it's yeah, we pride ourselves on the
work that we do. Right now, the state has a program it's called
home Base, So these families theydon't get vouchers anymore. They get the
home base, which is eighteen months. Explain that to me, yes,
all right, So we always hadSection eight yep, vouchers. What do

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we have now? So now it'shome base. So it's kind of Section
eight is still out there, butthere's no new applications going out. They're
trying to make the families become moreeconomic, you know, aware of where
they're at currently on a Section eightvoucher and trying to wean them off of

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it. So now they have Sectioneight to home ownership. Okay, so
let's go, let's go back there. So home ownership, who writes the
mortgage for that? Yeah, Sothere's many banks that we have as a
mortgage lender that will write like aone plus Boston mortgage that is income restricted,

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and then because it's income restricted,they are they can go into a
mortgage loan that might have a lowerinterest rate that might give them a little
bit more down payment assistance, familymovement. Whatever our clients save over five
thousand, we match them five thousanddollars towards their down payment and or closing

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cost. So okay, so wheredoes that get them in Massachusetts as a
home like we're the most Yeah,so right now a lot of our families,
we do have one that purchased rightin Chelsea. So we have South
Sure for our families. One endCentral Masks give me so Brockton Stoughton.

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Yeah, we have a family thatjust purchased in around the Framan yep,
Framingham area. And then our mailis just signing into a lottery to be
placed in Boston. So he willbe our first one that will be in
Boston. And he's married, hehas two children, He's not on any

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government assistance, he has a savingsover twenty thousand dollars and right now he
is couch surfing, so him andhis family is living with family members.
So he is literally our product ofhomelessness to home ownership. So he's gone
from homeless to couch surfing and nowhe got a home. Yep, he's

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pre approved. So we haven't foundhis home yet. Hopefully we'll have a
follow up show for the yeah,and we'll bring him in. Yeah.
Yeah, that would be a greatsuccess story. We need to bring some
of these people in so the Youcouldn't have ask for worse timing though for
all this, right, I knowthe interest rates are not where we would

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like them to be, but wedo encourage families if you see something that
is within your pre approval, youknow, purchase and then kind of you
know, refinance in the next sixsix months or so. I don't know
if you read the statistics on Massachusetts. Massachusetts is a great state, right,
So I looked up like it wassomething that came on my phone,

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so I looked it up. Massachusettsis number one for IQ. You know
that number one? Yeah? Googlethat IQ highest of all the states.
Is Massachusetts best place to raise afamily? Raise, raise children, have
a family, Massachusetts number one.We always made Newton, Massachusetts always made
up until COVID the number one cityin the country as one of the most

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safest cities in the country. Butmass is changing, and people that live
here are leaving, and they're lowThey're going, you know, the rich
are going, the middle class aregoing, and the aulter rich are going.
And this is when the politicians gottto sit back and say, hold
on, we're losing good people here. We're losing people that donate a lot

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of money, they give their time, they give to organizations, work hard.
You start losing those billionaires and millionaires. You're running is stay down because
there's too much reason. Look it, we don't live in Masters's for the
beautiful weather, as you can say, right right. We live here because
we make a living here. Welive here because I think we like the
culture. There's so much culture here. We get to live among many different

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type of people, which is great, right, Like not we have a
friend Sammy. What to s alwayssay in Texakonisha, everybody's just white or
black. I'm like, yes,shah, there's no such things just white
people. Yes there is, they'rejust white. There's no white Italians.
No white Irish, no white Jews. I'm like waiting all the time.
She says that wow and in Texakanain her brain. So when she comes

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and she interns with me every monthfor a couple of weeks and shaman Nique
mannon and she's like, I've neverknew like white Jewish differre white Italian people,
white Irish people. You people talkabout this, like, but that's
what we do here, Like wecould be at home depot, Hey,
where are you from? Where areyou from? Oh? I grew?

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Oh what's your mother? What areyou from? It's just like kind of
normal here there. It's just no. She calls me to see stumble it
just white. She say white Concawhen she say white white people, but
she use another word, no whatever, and she's like, that's just how
it is. I'm like and thenshe asks people what are you? They

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don't say white, Irish, whiteItalian. We're going to break hold.
I thought, oh my own thought. I'm sitting stumping lit tough his nails
on WBZ News Radio ten thirty andbe right back. Small by Newbrook Realty
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I couldn't repeat. I was runningfrom it all, and I'm soon stump
on your back on WBC News Radioten thirty with Toughest Nails, I'm here
with who Sammy's Temple and La KenyaRivers pick up where we left off.
Yeah, so, I think youknow, with the transition of the home
ownership after our family leaves stable housing, it's it's crucial for us, not

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just Family Movement, but any nonprofitleader to really really teach the next person.
I don't care if it's a familymember. Financial literacy, you know,
anything that is going to help yourfamily grow and build generation no wealth.

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We are Our model is literally toend generational poverty and build the generational
wealth. So we partner with threehundred financial advisors to bring them into the
homeless shelters and teach them one onone financial literacy. It's kind of like
what Ray did this winter in Florida. Gave everybody one hundred dollars at the
pool deck, the kids and said, you're opening an eight corn account.

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You've proved to me that you openit up. I'm giving everybody one hundred
dollars. And that's he's a wealthadvisor of thirty seven years. And these
kids every day by the pool,like when it was days that were nice.
He comes out like one two o'clockafter working, and we work and
we do both down there, youknow, try to get out there like
three o'clock and go, hey,where's the sun? And they just run
over the way and they can't getenough information. You've seen it. We

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look at this Ray, look atthat right, But he gives back.
Yeah, because you've been doing somethingfor thirty seven years, thirty six years,
you give back. That's it can'ttake this with you when you go
right. But there anywhere from workingthe pool deck fifteen, sixteen, eighteen,
even twenty eight, twenty nine,and they're running over to Ray.
Ray, look at look at this, Look at this right. Race has

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put five dollars a month away,put ten dollars in it. Just teach
consistency matter correct. Yeah, andbut somebody's going to show them. If
they don't have the parents to doit, then you help other kids.
We realize that the homelessness that weexperience working with these families is that they
have not because they know not,and they ask not and they don't know

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how to ask because they don't know. What is more? Okay, the
families that you work with, dowe have white families? Yeah? Hispanic
we have maybe about five percent whitemajority, maybe eighty nine percent are people
of color of so black, Hispanic, Haitian, Creole, and then I

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think we had one Chinese, oneAsian failing. Where do you see?
Where do you want to go inthe next year? Do you see coming
at you guys? Yeah? Sowhat now do you need for help?
Like my list is a listening Yes, so right now we need as much
support just to get our name outthere, increase the visibility of family movement

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in the community, and mainly rightnow we are having a building campaign launching
right now. We have eighteen monthsto build. The shovel to ground is
supposed to be in the fall ofthis year. So what are we building?
Yep, So we're building a ourfirst office space, which round up,
build, ground up, build Mayorcontractor. So right now Mayor will

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just awarded the lot to a developerMTK. So this developer is doing it
in honor of a former general contractorwho passed away. I never heard of
contractor. Who's this it's called MTKDevelopment, Sammy, I never heard of
them either. Yeah, I thinkthey're pretty MTK MTK. See that's weird.

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See why would she not give itto somebody that's been around the Boston
area a long time and that helpand gives some money towards it. But
that's the thing, because when yougo with the notables, Yeah, the
notable people, then I think whatthe mayor is what she did was choose
people that are that have the knowledge, that have the wisdom, that have

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the all of the eggs in thebasket to be able to build on one
lot. There are many lots inthe city of Boston that they're trying to
fill and they're trying to give opportunitiesto people of color, whether it's a
general contractor whether it's you know,architect. We're the first community partner that's

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on this project. So there's adeveloper that bought the property and they're using
this builder. Yep, and thenit'll be stayed fun for the way Yep,
city, city, m state funded. Cindy and city and state funded.
Okay, I said, Cindy,I think, yeah, did you
look that up? No? Okay, So you're not fast enough. I

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need Jonathan being here because he likegets things right. We know that you're
toughing my nails. My service isn'teven not fast enough in here. Well,
then bring a left topic. Sobasically, the developer, like I
said, bought the land. Yep. We don't know what he pays for
the land. How many units arecoming in yep. So the bottom we
will purchase. That's our goal topurchase, so that it will be a

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one stop shop for the families andthe community above. It will be twelve
to eighteen condos, not rental condos, condos, Okay, condos to sell,
yes by lottery? Yes, wherewere they at badly by? Where's
MTK out of? So they're outof Boston? I think Dorchester. So
if I do MGA Construction Services outof Pembroke, they're permanently closed. Yeah,

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you must be the word Boston.Yeah, ye, Boston. So
the developer will so sing makes moneybecause no one's working for free, as
we know in America right like,no one's working for free. So somewhere
they make money, we just don'tknow. I think it's once they sell
the condos and once they sell thebottom storefronts. So it's gonna be the

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first little commercial, yep, andthen residential above them exactly, and it'll
be lottery sales only. But we'rehoping, we're praying that we can get
at least two to four out ofthe condos they are, so we are
trying to raise funds for that.They only do affordable have the so okay,

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so they only do affordable house andcan I see that from it a
place so I can educate myself realfast? Okay? Hold on, And
they are brand new developers in thecommunity. Okay, so they're the empty
Okay, they're the developers. Thenthey hire the builders, yes, got
it? Okay, And I thinkI don't think they've gotten to that point

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yet. I think they're in themiddle of permitting and zoning. Well,
hopefully they move it along fast becauseright now everything is a slow motion too.
But that's our you know, themayor should be pushing this faster,
right Ye, we just had ameeting. They said about eighteen months for
the So I'm looking at the building. Bottom is commercial, top is residential.

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Every unit is affordable or only somany units. Every unit is affordable.
But when we looked at the affordability. It's about it's not affordable.
Yeah, okay, but I cangive you an educated reason why that is.
Okay. It's because to get skilledlabor and to buy product is so

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expensive right now, I believe it. Okay. So even if they give
you the land for free and sayhere, take this, they will have
to You're still got to build itout. And I'm telling you on boots
on the ground it's expensive. Yeah. So this is what I don't understand
is what are they going to sellfor because I know the price is to
build, especially that's a brick buildingby the way. Yeah, I think

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they were saying about four hundred thousandper unit. Yep, and that gives
you hommy square feet you know,a pand or no, not off the
top of my head. I'd haveto look it up. Yeah, but
that sounds even low too. Yeah. So the profits small, but it
helps families that want to stay inthe city at least stay in the city

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because of the whole gentrification that's happeningin the Roxbury Dorchester area. It is
an opportunity and we're gonna you know, the funding hasn't even been discussed yet.
Who's going to fund the construction,but we were having that things were
attendant. It's important because with youknow, and we don't have enough skill

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labor, we got product. That'sridiculous. If they got to pay a
stupid interest rate, it's it's justnot feasible for them to do it and
be able to that. There liesthe problems. So the governor, the
mirror, everybody's gonna pull in nearthe city they us, I guess,
but you can't tell a private bank. Okay, listen, if they want
two through basis points over what they'reyou know what the federate is, you're

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gonna pay it right unless the federalgovernment substance is okay, you can borrow
with this number. Well, there'sdefinitely funding for these lots that's being sold.
So it's just a matter of thefunding, and you got to diversify
it. So funding from the city, how much are you raising, how
much are you putting up grants?We're applying for grants for this as well.

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We are diverse and fying off funds. We don't want this opportunity for
us and for the families to bedebt debt now, and what about trying
to do this outside the commuter railslike they can't aerate the Stote area where
it's like a lot of where thetrain goes right through the Debs housing.
Yeah, we guys looked at that. We have been discussed to look into

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that, and I think our heartis just serving within the community of Boston,
of Boston, the low income area. Okay, let's go off to
break. I'm Sidy Stumbor you listenToughest Nails on WBC News Radio ten thirty

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And I'm Sidy stumporing you listen tothe Toughest Nails on WBZ News Radio ten
thirty. Bring us out, Yes, Sindy, Team Ross, Sammy,
thank you guys so much. I'vebeen trying to get on here. Yes,
so thank you so much. Pleaseplease please follow Family Movement www dot
Familymovement dot com. We have acommunity brunch coming up in June. We're

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still trying to lock down to thedetails for that, but stay tuned on
our website. We also have anannual galla that we do that's called Unlocked.
We are unlocking everything that pertains topoverty and building generational wealth. And
again, as I mentioned on here, we are we're fundraising for our new

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location wherever it will be right,Cindy, let us know, let's know,
and Ross took you a year tobring it back on. Everybody,
have a great, safe weekend andwe'll see you next weekend. This is
Citdy Stumbotop his Nails on WBZ NewsRadio ten thirty