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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And welcome to Cindy Stumpo tough his nails on WBZ
news radio and in the studio tonight.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Is Sammy your daughter?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
Sammy? You and my daughter? Yeap? You sure?

Speaker 2 (00:10):
Yeah? You know, until I do something that that you
don't like that I'm.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Dad's daughter, then you're a Stumpo.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (00:16):
We switch around here a lot. Right, what's your name?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
My name is Nico Verana.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
And who else do we have in the studio?

Speaker 3 (00:22):
Nicos proud Fado, proud fa.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
Almost did it come in today?

Speaker 5 (00:27):
He asked Ross if it was okay for you to
come in because he was having a plumbing issue.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Oh, you're having a plumbing issue?

Speaker 5 (00:32):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 4 (00:32):
And then Ross told me you'd ripped my head off.
So I said, I'll be there too, fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
But then I texted, what kind of issue will help you?

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Having a plumbing issue? You call Cindy.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
Yeah, well, I gotta tell you, Cindy Tody. I always
have respect for you guys, but I'm doing a Mickey
Mouse project right and I swear to God right now,
you guys are like I just I'm in r of
what you do. I'm in awe because I can't get
a landscape of a plant, a tree.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
It's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
I mean, and you're you're a tough part right now.
Down Florida because at least East Coast up here, we
get guys that still want to work at my age,
your age, your son's age. Down there, the help is
very different. I left Florida O seven. Trust me, I
clink it out of there fast enough. You just gotta
have a different mentality when you're working down there. You
can't have that. You know that Boston fast paced northeast

(01:27):
and go down there because uh uh, they're going fishing.
I'm like, well, you're going fishing. You're going fishing. And
the lunch breaks they're sitting there, you know, banging coconuts,
and I'm like, oh my god, my thirties going what
would I fly to? Like they take five steps backwards
and then three steps forward and ten backwards. I'm like,
I'm never gonna down these projects.

Speaker 3 (01:47):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
But then you're down there and you have a lyft
driver uber driver. They're like, oh, I do construction. I'm
like what, I'm so confused.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
Yeah, they all got cousins that I'll do everything.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
They have family members that do everything is right. So
you're finding out that being a GC is not so easy.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
That's good, not so easy, It's impossible, and I'll never
try it again after this year. I can't wait for
it to be over one and done.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
No, maybe not, because once you get the feeling, and
you might get the bug, then I'll go down the
street and say, you know, maybe I'll buy this and
I'll fix some, flip this and make another whatever. Like
you'll say, what comes up.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
I'd rather go to the I'd rather go to the
hot rock hit the shot for three four hours, you.

Speaker 1 (02:26):
And me both when I'm down there. So okay, so
Nick Verano, tell the listeners what are you? Who are you?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Nick?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (02:35):
So? Nick Verano is the crowd soun of Rosetta and
rock with Verano. They're up in heaven right now. They
came from Italy and they gave me an opportunity with nothing,
and I got lucky. In two thousand and three, I
opened the restaurant in my neighborhood in the End where
I was born and raised. And I hit the lottery

(02:56):
because I had the greatest staff in the restaurant business.
And I opened up a little restaurant called Strega, and
from there I probabaid that into uh a little restaurant
group in and around Boston, and became very successful because
of my staff. And more importantly, I'm known in Boston

(03:18):
and around the country as to having two of the
greatest kids. Serena Verano, That's what I'm known for. I
mean my mean ball a little bit, but I got lucky.
Married a neighborhood girl, met her when she was fifteen,
and she gave me the greatest blessing in the world.
The two greatest kids in the world. And uh, they

(03:39):
know everybody feel special?

Speaker 1 (03:42):
Do they know that the greatest kids in the world?
You only tell them every once in a while.

Speaker 3 (03:46):
No, my son, my son could be any My daughter
is a pain in the ass. I don't know about
how Samantha is, but my daughter is a lot of work.
But uh, I make them think that they're not as
good as they are. But I'm very blessed.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Samy is my easy one, and I got I have
the other one.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
You tell me I'm a pain in the assalot.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
No, you just you just you're just very secretive. On
we just can't talk. We can talk about everything, just
not her personal life.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Oh, I have a question for you guys. See you
guys tell each other everything or no, it's fully like
half everything.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
No, no, I tell Sammy everything. She tells me everything
except you know, uh, so you're dating anybody, Let's not
go there. Yeah, I'm like, what's the big deal? Just
tell me like you're dating something. I'll let you know
when it's serious.

Speaker 5 (04:35):
Okay, Well I have a brother that brings everybody home
after one date. So you you date my brother one
date and you're like marrying the family the next day. Crazy,
So until I think they're worth my family meeting, because
meeting my family is a big deal, then it's worth it.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
You'll tell you what do you want me to tell you?

Speaker 3 (04:54):
Now? Now? Sam? So everyone tells me in and around
Boston like I must be had to day your daughter
Marina like that she have an introduce your little boy
and stuff like that. So I would think for you,
it's the opposite, like if I wouldn't want to meet
your mother because I think I get my parts way
too and I don't want to talk to your mother.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
Pretty much, Seemy will tell you not afraid to dad
there was I will say, oh my god, I'm trying
to think of the nightclub I was at and this
guy walk up to heres, probably like early twenties, and
he goes, your mom is Cindy Stump And I said yep.
And he literally turned around and with the other direction
right in front of me, and I was like, okay, bye.

Speaker 3 (05:33):
And I would I would definitely play the lottery and
take a show with somebody else if.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
You your mother in the other end of it.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
It made me feel very safe that I never got
like prayed on by developer any of these things. Like
I've heard stories from brokers and this and that, and
that's never happened to me ever in my career.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
So I rather that.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
So she's felt safe and she and she felt safe
going out in the dating world going to clubs too, right,
and exactly the way I felt right, And we just
talked about this. I only needed two things my whole life,
and that was what I was raised with. Love and safety.
Like I had a father that made me love me,
and I knew I was always safe around him, like.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
To talk to my mom. Then why do I want
them around anyways?

Speaker 3 (06:16):
But it's that's right.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
But that's what kids need to feel love and safe. Right,
you give them that, and you're giving them everything as
far as I'm concerned, right then, all the materialistic things
and whatever. Right, they had a nice life. Thank you
for working so hard, mommy, But at.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
The end, thank you for working so hard.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
But Sammy works. Sammy works hard. That you know the
other one worked really hard in golf, and and that
you know that. I think COVID hit up and that
did a mental game to his head. And we'll get
them somehow, put Humpty Dumpty back together again at some point, Samantha.
And it might be hard for Chad because Chad's watching

(06:54):
his mom. You know that's been pretty successful.

Speaker 5 (06:59):
When you move back here, he was like everyone knows you,
and everyone knows Sam and now I'm getting right rocked everywhere.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
So you know, he was stationed out of Florida. He
went to IMG in Florida.

Speaker 4 (07:11):
Oh wow, so yes.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
And Bradington ms thirteen games right on the cool right
like crazy, and then he'd go to Italy played for
the European Tour. So you know he's had a he's
had a big career.

Speaker 4 (07:24):
I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, then one back tournament and then COVID hit up
and then they went his confidence, right, So it happens
does he still play plays unbelievable when you put him
into the tournament, right, if he went out play with you,
your dad, whatever, the kid will Bertie Bertie Birdie, Birdie Birdie.
Put him in a tournament, it'll bogy bogy.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Bogey without even like having to try. It's so annoying.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah, he's a talented kid. He was. I mean he
made all Boston Glove Harold because when he went ninth
grade South then he played senior because IMG that was virtual. Okay,
that's how we made Boston Globe. And then he brought
home the rider cock back to back to Massachusetts, which
had been years and but so on, so on. So

(08:07):
here's my question. You and your dad, you know you
work together, you don't work together kind of sort of like,
but you.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Lean on him, call him three hundred times a day.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
You do, And he has a saying if he calls
you pal, oh.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
No, like we can base how the whole day is
going to go on the first text that he sends me.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
And how's that going?

Speaker 4 (08:29):
So if he says high pal before I reach out
to him, yeah, because saybe I text him first. If
I get a high Pal from him, something's going to
go wrong that day, like he knows, he sees it,
it's gonna be a bad day.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
Okay. So the war is that the word pal?

Speaker 4 (08:42):
Yeah, pal?

Speaker 1 (08:42):
Alright. So when I do buddy, when I go hide,
the same thing, right buddy. But I say that to
chat hold that thought. We got a little break. I'm
sending stumbling you listen to his nails on WBZ will
be right back and welcome back to Toughest Nails on
WBZ News Radio ten thirty And I'm sending them here
with Sammy and I'm here with Come on, Nico. I say, Nico,
you're gonna inroduce yourself and where's your dad?

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Nick Radio?

Speaker 1 (09:06):
All right, Nikki. So when he says pale, and when
I go hey, buddy, then when I do that, hey.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Buddy, it's the same exact thing.

Speaker 1 (09:13):
It's like I'm coming, I'm coming to watch out.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
Get out of the way.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Also, when you say my full name for you, it's Samantha. Yeah,
I know killed that. She doesn't say that.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
And it's like an immediate thoughts like all right, what
did I do wrong in the last twelve twenty four hours?
You start playing it back in your head, like right,
I screwed up somewhere.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
She has a way of like making it about work
and then it like slings to something personal and I go,
how did that get caught in that trap again?

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Yep, there you go, right, So there there's the same situation.
We work together, right, even though we're in two different
sectors of what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Same.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
He stives her GC license and she has her broker's license,
so she's selling, but she's in the field too. You're
running your sweat houses. He's running his restaurants and doing
what he's doing, right, but he's still heavily involved in
your business.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, because at the end of the day, is still
my dad and my best friend. So you know, he's
a one person. I tell him everything, good, bad, you know,
middle everything. He knows everything, knows you know what I'm
feeling in the morning, the afternoon and the evening. So
you know, it's more than just he's a business partner,
best friend, dad at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
So okay, Nikki, Yeah, how do you rate that relationship?
Do you think the relationship is better because you work
together or it would be better if you didn't work
together or give your input because that's never gonna even
if Dad wasn't invested or whatever in your business, He's

(10:41):
always still going to stick his nose in.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I love for him to invest. If you are interested,
you can kind of check today special Today.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So the point is, you, guys, you rely.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
On him, and you're how old on thirty one?

Speaker 3 (10:57):
Can I say something ahead? I got to tell you
you asked the question. So he truly has become my
best friend. And if I tell you it's no exaggeration.
Like I talked to my mother before she died digitally
twelve fourteen times a day and every single day, I mean,
you know, she would say, did you eat while I

(11:17):
was four hundred pounds? And I go, mine, it just
can left the house like you know, I mean all
day every day we talked. And that's the relationship I
have with my son and my daughter. But Nico, because
now he's building his own little empire with these sweathouses,
not only in Massachusetts but around the country. And I
realized something, I'm actually his biggest I've become his biggest fan.

(11:40):
I don't even know if he knows that. So he
was always like, oh, my dad or my daughter, my dad,
my dad, my dad. Now I've become his biggest fan
to watch his work ethic. Right, So I'd be honest
with you. When I was younger coming up, I worked,
you know, decently hot, you know, I broke my ass
and I gave a lot and everybody feel good, special

(12:01):
and making sure that you know, everybody, you know if
they look like me with a wig. And it was
a woman that'd be making God, look how beautiful you are,
Jesus Christ, you look incredible. And that was day in
and day out. My job was to make everybody feel special, right,
And I think I created a recipe for that, and
I worked hard. But to see what he's doing at
thirty one years old and how had he's worked, the

(12:23):
kid has not worked less in everybody that thinks i'm exaggerating,
less than one hundred, one hundred and ten hundred and
twenty hours a week since the day he graduated college.
So for the last nine ten years, I've never seen
the kid take more than two three days off ever
in ten years. And even when he got married, he

(12:46):
got married on a Sunday, was back in Boston Monday morning.
He doesn't stop his work ethic because he wants to
be bigger and better and make take care of everybody.
I'm in awe. I've become his biggest fan. I've never
seen anybody at his age work and how did he
does ever?

Speaker 1 (13:04):
Okay, now Sammy could kick in and say, what what
do I say? Does that sound like me in the
male version all the time?

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Well, I actually said to you last night, can I
go to sleep now?

Speaker 2 (13:13):
From answering your question?

Speaker 1 (13:16):
But here's the funny pot to think like I never thought. Literally,
twelve thirteen years ago, I would count on Samantha to say, hey, listen,
wanting deals by her, do the valuations run the numbers?
Blah blah blah, get back to me where you think
of these numbers? And now you know, if you were
to tell me thirteen fourteen years ago, I wouldn't pull

(13:37):
the trigger on a deal because Samantha said, well, I
don't like the deal.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
So last night in our group chat with the two
girls in her office, they sent like an address that
came out and I already knew this morning you were
going to ask me the questions about that, And literally,
as I'm peeing on the toilet, I literally set you
here here before you could.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Even like respond back to me about this.

Speaker 5 (13:55):
Yes, she like reasked me, and I was like, I
know that's coming, so I need to have it now
before I get yelled.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
But the point is exactly how you feel is exactly
how I feel.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I love that Sindy honest about Cindy. I don't do
anything anymore, write anything anymore without running it by Nico
in Ann Marina, be honest with you. I don't do
anything but Nico's brain when it comes to just finding deals,
getting deals and getting things done, forget it. I couldn't
do it on my bedst day. And what you said

(14:29):
really struck a chord with me because I never thought
to day that I'd have to ask my son's opinion
on my son's thing. You know, I don't get I
did my way, my own way, like Sanatra said, and
now I wouldn't think of doing anything without getting his
opinion on anything.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
You think that it's partially that he's gained your respect
for sure, Okay, has nothing to do with your age,
but it does.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
No, I'm shopping is a fifty five I look in
credit okay.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
But again you realized the value of Look, my whole
life's been based around family. You don't grow up with
my dad and not be all about family. Right, that's it,
that's just that's just life. Like we're a family. This
comes first. What goes on in this roof stays under
this roof. And don't ever be a rat. That's it.

(15:22):
Be loyal, never be a rat and whatever. My poor
brother got punished twenty times because he would tell on me.
I'd say, what is wrong with you? You're going to be
the one that gets me.

Speaker 5 (15:32):
Because he always noted, you told me if I told
the truth, I didn't get in trouble. If you got
in trouble, my chad, you still don't get this.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
My father said, never lie to me. I will never
punish you. Tell me the truth. I go, So what
I can go kill somebody and tell you, and yeah,
we'll go. We'll go bury the body and you won't
get punished. But the point was he was trying to
get through my head is that I could trust him
with anything. I could go to him for anything. So
if there's ever a problem, I wouldn't go to my girlfriends.
I would go to my dad. And I raised my

(15:59):
kids the same.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
But that even beyond that, like it makes me communicate
better as an adult that I was never afraid to
speak my feelings. I was never afraid of the outcome
of me saying something that somebody else might be.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
Yeah, and like my dad became not only my best friend,
but he became friends with all my friends. Like he
took us on spring break every year, like he was
on every trip. When we graduated college, we all went
to Vegas. He took us, right, And you know, I
don't think he took us because.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
The Playboy Mansion.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, when I was eighteen, he took me and my
five closest friends literally to la Uh to the Playboy
Mansion to see that. And at eighteen, we were like,
this is the coolest thing ever.

Speaker 1 (16:36):
But I and some fathers would think that's a terrible
thing to do. But it's the greatest thing to do.

Speaker 4 (16:42):
Well, when we went we actually went to to gun
range too, and he had to ask all the other
parents for permission, but he didn't think he did. My
mom told him he had to ask, so he pretended
like he asked all the other parents. But he was
the He's the cool dad. He still is, I always
will be. And I think that's also why we're so
clo Right, he's only fifty five. I just turned thirty one.

(17:03):
My mom's only fifty one. So growing up with the
cool young parents I think also brought us a lot
closer together too.

Speaker 1 (17:09):
So if you take the year, Sammy, you're thirty eight, Yeah,
I'm sixty.

Speaker 5 (17:13):
So like growing up, every anytime I'd had people over
in high school and they all came over and she
would always have us there.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
But like, she's seven years old than you, So when
you get to her age, your dad's going to be
he's fifteen two, you'll be sixty three. Oh, you'll be
older than me when you're a kid's my daughter's age.
But how old your daughter?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
Yeah, she is twenty eight, so you'll be twenty eighth
this year. Yeah, I'm the oldest. She'd thinks she's the oldest.
Marina is a queen of the family.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Like period stores, you like nobody's business.

Speaker 4 (17:46):
Yes, exactly every.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
Five seconds on Instagram, my brother, this, my brother that
I love my brother, my brother, my brother, my brother.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Really all the time.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
We're very, very close.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
It's biggest fan.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
But she's on the West Coast.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
No, No, she just moved back. Where's she roommate? Which is
very interesting. We literally just moved to South thea together
which is pretty comical. But yeah, so where as close
as can be. And she's another one. I'm always asking
her opinion, especially on the sweat house stuff, like you know,
if we do this with marketing, will this work? Like
what do you think of this? What do you think
of this location? Because you know she's she knows a lot,

(18:21):
so value her opinion as well. She has a lot
of my dad in her terms, like the traits.

Speaker 1 (18:29):
Oh oh, your sister just started with So.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
She's with Beth today. Actually, Oh good for her.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Okay, and that's thank you for that. Thank you for that.
Breaking breaking news, breaking news. Congratulations, Okay, every hold, I
thought we could go to a break just taking that
camera in my face. I'm Sinney Stumpy. You listen to
Toughest Nails on w BSY News Radio ten thirty and
welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ and I'm Sinney
Stumpo and I'm here with Sammy, I'm here with Nico.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
Okay, Junior Nick, that was a great song to come
back to my dad.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
That song a lot, that's my theme song.

Speaker 5 (19:02):
And I said, I'm literally getting on a plane I
have to go, and you got all sad that I
hung up fun.

Speaker 1 (19:07):
So let me just let me just say this. When
I started my career at twenty three, I was the
bad mummy. Right now, today, if you don't have a career,
you're the bad mummy, right if you want to stay
on the range your children, you're a bad mummy. But
back then I was the bad mummy.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
So I didn't think that.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
I know, you didn't think that the other mothers i'd
have to sit. I'd be running, well, Chad.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
You put them all on their place.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
As my grandpa was a gangster, Okay, keep your grandfather
out of here. But at the end of the day,
like I'd run, I'd have a next toell going, I
have the cell phone going, I'd have you know, the
beeper going, and get the Chad's baseball game. And the
moms would look up at me as I'm running up
to sit on the bleaches, and they look at me.
I'm like, yeah, not now, turning around before this construction
group goes in your head right like I'm not in

(19:50):
any Moore. Then some days I would handle it. But whatever,
it was a different story. But the reason why that
song has so much meaning to me is that I
just felt like that was gonna be my life one day.
Right like.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
That.

Speaker 1 (20:04):
I was running and working and giving these kids everything
every other moment I had that, I had no other hobbies, right,
and just something with that song just related. And then
last week I called Sammy and she's like, Mom, I
got to call you back. I got to catch a plane.
I got to be out of here in fifteen twenty minutes.
I'll call you when I land. I'm like, wow, there

(20:26):
it is right there. It was the first time ever
that I felt the reality of that song when she goes, Mom,
I love you so much. I got a plane to
catch and I just want to say and the bills
to pay, right. I wanted to say that to her,
and I'm like, okay, I love you. Yeah. You know
I waited all these years to hear that line that

(20:47):
I wanted to say back to her, and you know, like, yeah,
I love you so much, Mom, I got a plane
to catch and I literally wanted to say I said it,
but I didn't say it to her and bills to pay,
and it looked well, you know, while it was away
right like you turned into I love that song. It's
just but it has a lot of meaning to mean
yes it does. And you know party you wants to

(21:11):
hear that, right, you want to hear your kids say, Dad,
I love you. But the kids are home with the flu,
and you know, little manam moon man and the moon whatever.
But you know when you're coming home, Dad, I don't
know when. But you're not getting that. You're not getting
that from your kids. So what might have thought might
have been the life isn't. So I'm not saying any

(21:33):
of us are perfect, but we all did something right.
We all did something right, and maybe it's all the
way that mentality of how we grew up, you know,
the values that were instilled in me.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
I don't think any of us could do a nine
to five.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
No, we're not nine to five people, look none at all. No,
when you get moved, when you get moved from the
North Shore, right, your parents are from Rivera and Chelsea,
and then you moved to wes p but then to Newton, right,
but you in review all the time, and then you
want me to make friends in Newton. These kids were
very different than me. I'm like, what's wrong? They came
to a dress These kids like they got more min
than God and they came and dressed nothing like they

(22:09):
were Levi's and like docs whatever, it just you know,
it happened. Yeah, I fit in right way. I made
myself fit in because that was the personality to do that.
I can do that. But I thought what was going
with that? But other parents would say to me, like
when I no one ever asked miss on the North
Shore when I moved to new what did your dad
do for a living? And I didn't really know what

(22:30):
to say, right, I'm like, oh, I don't know. So
I went home. I said, Dad, what's all these parents
that asked me what you do for a living? Just
tell them to see you of the streets. I'm like,
you want me to tell I'm fourteen years old? You
want me to tell people that? What was that? He goes, Yeah,
if you want to shut people up, just told them that.
I'm like, okay, yeah, this is a normal life. Okay,
I went and said, and that.

Speaker 4 (22:48):
Was in normal is never good, normals born.

Speaker 1 (22:51):
I don't want to be normal exactly. I don't want
to be normal ever. But there are families that probably
roll differently than we all roll. And let them roll.
We're warm. We're all warm, And I know one thing.
Your family's all there for you no matter what. And
I know the Stumble family is always there for them. Yep,
for us, right, So we're going to be there for

(23:12):
our kids no matter what. We might want to beat
the hell out of your times a couple of times
you want to beat your kids up?

Speaker 3 (23:18):
At least four or five times a week.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
That's actually less than what I thought. I'm doing pretty good.

Speaker 5 (23:24):
I think the only time I was ever afraid to
call you is when I got arrested.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, because she warned me.

Speaker 5 (23:30):
She has this like weird esp for telling me like
something bad is going to happen, and then it would happen.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
She literally went to the mall with a friend and
the friend goes to stop to sell marijuana or something.
She's in college, she's good, and next thing I know,
she's in the bathroom. She's in the bathroom McDonald's. They
came in and how the gun her?

Speaker 2 (23:51):
How about this? I don't call her?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
And they pull me out of the stall to tell
me my mother's on the phone, and I'm like, you
don't even know where I am When there's no location.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I go, now I'm really.

Speaker 4 (24:00):
Screw Definitely, like just take me, take me.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
I would have said, hang up.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
But I knew my daughter din't do anything wrong because
I know Sammy. But the point was, I'm calling hospitals.
I'm calling because she was going to Natick Mall and
then she's gotta get leave for college next morning. It's
eleven o'clock at night. I'm calling everywhere and leave hospitals.
Police and then I found them, like, put her on
the phone, and they did they put it? I go,

(24:26):
they go, no, we're not charging her for nothing. That
she didn't have anything to do with this. She was
with kids that one kid got set up selling. But
I'm like, Sammy, she was, I'm getting back to college
tomorrow and I'm done with these people. I'm like, yeah,
those kids are done on your life.

Speaker 2 (24:39):
And all the other times. Did you throw a party
at dad's house?

Speaker 1 (24:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (24:41):
I did.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I did.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Like you said, you tell the truth, you can't get
in trouble.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Yeah. Joe gets home and sees his boots not clean.
Did Sammy have a party at my house and were
newly separated. I'm like, no, she would never do that.
I called her. I go, did you have a parbaty dead?
I see I did? Would you clean this?

Speaker 3 (25:00):
Good?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
For he knew where you put his boots right. I'm like,
oh God, you can't make this up. But let me
ask you a question. If you could change anything when
it comes to your children, would there be anything that
you change or you do it all the same?

Speaker 3 (25:15):
I actually got to be honest, I would do it
all the same, all the same, all one time. I mean,
I couldn't ask, you know. I was once asked by it.
I don't know if it was Boston Globe or Boston Magazine.
After I opened up Straighter Waterfront and it was the
first rustaurant on the seaport, and it was a lot
of buzz, obviously, and I don't know who came with
a bunch of big celebrities in that week. And somebody

(25:38):
asked me, Heynick, you know, when do you want your
legacy to be? You know? And they thought I was
going to say something with the restaurants. And I says,
I don't know where you're from. I says, but let
me explain to you. I says, I quit school in
the ninth grade. I says, I play cards every day.
I was looking to make, you know, fifty dollars, one
hundred dollars, two hundred dollars a day, I says, And

(26:00):
then you know, I got very lucky in life with
a little hard to work. But to answer your question,
is that someday when I'm gone that my two kids,
Nico Marina at the time, were like nineteen and seventeen.
I says. They walked down Hanna the street and someone says,
I remember your father, what a nice guy, who was
a good guy. And I stopped talking. They go, what okay?

(26:22):
And what else are going? No, that's it, That's all
I care about. You know, some day they say your
father is a good guy. Yeah, because because I know
that my kids are good kids. They don't have any
malicious like you know, coming up, I was a little
bit of a fresh boy. I was an angla, you know.
I would try to get do whatever I had to
do to get to the next level in life. And

(26:43):
my kids don't have any of that in them, thank god.
So I wouldn't change a thing about them.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
So you're kind of happy that they don't have as
much street in them as you do? Is that what
you're saying?

Speaker 3 (26:56):
One? But in saying that's in the you know, being
around my son the last you know, call it ten
years after college. You know, I always thought he was
too nice, so he's gonna be too soft. He's gonna
let people get over on him this or that. I
realized that the kid is shopper than I ever thought. Right,

(27:17):
much shopper than I thought. And he really has it
in him. It's just is disguised in his niceness because
he's just so nice. Now, my daughter, on the other hand,
she has a little bit more of me and her
and uh, maybe you can call it a little more
Cindy stumpo and right, yeah, she don't give a give
about anybody who what what they can't do if they

(27:40):
want to, you know, nothing. She doesn't care. She's her
father's daughter and that's a good luck to you, God
bless you. And you're not gonna You're not gonna get
over on her.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
But the thing is you a lot like Sammy. You guys. See,
here's the difference, Nick, is that you would rob us
the wrong way. Our personalize coming back at you right,
you throw right, We're gonna throw two lefts right and
then the right aga.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
But we'll do it if you talk about you too.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
The only thing that's gonna piss these two off is
if they talk like if anybody talks about you to
your son, that's gonna put them into the moon. Or
if somebody talks about me or my father to Samantha,
Samantha will go, we don't go there. Well, but your
if your mother says, yeah, we don't go there, but
is your father Bobby Leonardi right? Because sometimes people still,

(28:29):
you know, because they had two names, and Sam goes,
we definitely don't go there. But when it comes to
defending herself, she could walk away and din't here at all,
doesn't care. And that's him that they're actually smarter than
you and I. They really are called dad thought. I'm
going to break this is Sidney standpoint it listen Tough
His Nails on w BZ News Radio ten thirty and
welcome back to Toughest Nails on WBZ. And I'm here

(28:52):
with the gang. I'm not evenna introduce him anyway. I'm Sammy, Okay,
you can be Sammy okay, Nico and right. So you
see how we're so similar in so many ways. It's
kind of crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (29:07):
I think it's beyond crazy.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
That's all I'm thinking about.

Speaker 4 (29:10):
I think it stems from seeing two really hard working
people who made a name for themselves. And I think
seeing the sacrifices that you know, Sammy had to see,
you make the sacrifices I saw and now have learned
that my dad had to make. It gives you that
extra boost to be a better person, be a better worker,
work harder than anybody else in the room into at

(29:30):
the end of the day, make whether it's your mom
or dad, very proud.

Speaker 1 (29:34):
See there's where the value has been lost. Right there.
You just said it, right there. I did what I
did to make my parents proud of me, right and
then you do it to make your kids proud of you.
And then some day you wake up and you're just
doing it because you're doing it. There, it is right
there with your generation. Cindy lost it.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Cindy, do me a favor, Do me a favor? Rightly,
not pre planned. Ask Nicole what he named his name
of his corporation. I didn't find out untill eight months
after he did it. I speak of the name of
his corporation that he opened, letting me know.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
So the name is Make my Father Proud Holdings. So
that's the holding company that owns all the sweat houses.
They're all under separate lcs. That's the big holding company,
and for sure it's MMFP because that would be a
mouthful to say every time, but yeah, that's the name
of the holding company.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
There's where we lost it. There's not a lot of
kids like you, unfortunately, but they want to make that.
We grew up that way. We wanted to do make
our parents proud. We want to do better than our
parents' generation. But you, I don't get to talk to
a lot of kids.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
But you all built a brand, and why would we
want to reuin We didn't.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
Build brands, so you did. I built a business.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
You both built the lack hole everybody and anybody knows,
so why would we ever want to be.

Speaker 2 (30:47):
The that brings it down?

Speaker 4 (30:49):
Exactly got it? Exactly what you're saying. Like, if I
tarnished the name, right, that's the worst thing I do.
I could go belly up with every investment I've ever made, right,
sweathouse could do no people. If I don't name, I
still win because name is like the biggest misstep I
can make because of how hard I know my dad

(31:10):
and my mom have worked to build that up.

Speaker 1 (31:13):
What's your sign again?

Speaker 3 (31:15):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, that's raise the pisces. That's why he's the warm one.

Speaker 4 (31:20):
What is your sister crazy?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (31:24):
June whatever, June.

Speaker 1 (31:24):
Eighteenth, black and White, Yeah, yeah, no, Gray Black John.
Don't try to win a fight with her.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
No, you can't win. You literally can't win. Even if
you're right, you can't win. She'll convince you that she's
right and you're wrong, and she's great at it. So
here's this. We just moved into this new place in Southee,
the building.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
With your wife that we know that she's a love.

Speaker 4 (31:47):
No, no, so my wife.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Public he said it on TV.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Okay, it's okay.

Speaker 4 (31:54):
She's down in Florida. So she's in Sarasota. We have
a house down there. I don't get there very much.
So Marina and I now live together in SOUTHI. She's
in one Adam on the other. In the building shakes
so like, but I haven't felt it. Only Marina has
felt it, and she is convinced the owner to send
out the architect from Ireland to come look at why

(32:15):
the building is shaking. Yet she's the only one feeling it.
That's how good she is.

Speaker 1 (32:20):
She like, she's unbelievable, and they're coming out of this seat,
but you can't feel the building.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Shit, No, it's fine. Like it's probably a bus driving by.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
Nigga. You're never gonna win with a Gemini. You got
to understand that they're very black and white and they're
very you have to do a lot of talking to
convince them.

Speaker 2 (32:37):
Baby baby gets away with murder.

Speaker 4 (32:40):
The big difference.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
We had all the rules, we had everything. Why we
can stind our defeat the baby gets way.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
With the murder?

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yep, I don't know about that. Like I had to
make you strong because you were a girl. And I thought,
and Nikki, I made a mistake. I thought boys just
come out with Popeye. I didn't realize we have to
spend a lot of time making into men. I thought
it just came out like Papa I did, and I thought, okay,
Sammy Plus Sammy was six seven years old in Chad.

(33:08):
But I put my time into making her stronger because
I could see through junior high school she takes.

Speaker 5 (33:15):
I can tell you right now, if you were as
tough as chide for me, no way ther chance.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
The point was is I get picked on. But she
just didn't have a backbone back then, right And I'd
be like, tell that girl she's a I don't need
to tell that girl. Mom she already knows. No, no, she
doesn't know. You need to tell her. She goes, Mom,
you need to tell people that I don't. I'm like,
oh my god, this is my daughter. So I'm going
to tell the girl. So I wait till Sammy goes
to shower, and I get on instant message, right, and

(33:42):
I'm trying to talk and Oline the girl goes, hi, Cindy.
I'm like, this is not Cindy. This is the new Samantha, right,
And then finally she just grew into herself. But like
I'll be like, no, no, no, no, you need to
tell that person. She went, no, no, no, no, you
need to tell people.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
My dad, it's the same thing. We handle people very differently, right,
So you know, oh, he needs to tell people, But
like I have now we have we're up to like
eighty employees at sweathouse, right, and my dad obviously with
the restaurants, he was up to like five hundred plays.
And the way that we handle certain situations is very different.
And I'd probably say that is certain situations we handle
very differently. That is probably the one ear where him

(34:18):
and I bicker the most. Right, I'll say, hey, this
is going on, I'm handling this way and he's like, Nope,
I wouldn't do that. This is what I would do.
And I'd say, well, I'm not that way because that's
not who I wiyh. And we'll still get to the
same results, but we're gonna do it differently. And those
are the moments where there's like the most like.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, okay, because your dad gets a point where he goes, listen,
you dumb, stupid idiot, right, Like we can't help ourselves.
We're so jaded already.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
But there's also difference between guys.

Speaker 5 (34:46):
But like if you that's like when I call you
to be my bad guy and I'm like, I need
you to set it's easier for you to do it
that they're gonna have more respect for you that way
than if I were to do it.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Yeah, that's true. Like she was dealing with a broker
that had to go out and deal with right, and
I watched the broker and the broker was probably little
bit older than me, and I saw it and I
called her old. But I saw the way she was
talking to Samantha, and I said, listen, I like you
just for at thirty minutes. Be it a creepy old lady,

(35:16):
I said, you talk to my daughter like that. Again,
she has probably she probably had two three years of
me if that, but she looked old or whatever. There's
gonna be a problem on here. So you will talk
to my daughter with respect the same way she's talking
to you. Do we understand each other? Right with Sammy
would never say that because it's not in her to

(35:38):
deliver that way. Her father's got his delivery. I have
my delivery, You have your delivery, and she has her delivery.
And yes, I'll say to her many times that sounds weak.
You know, your father's like down your throat. But maybe
they're right and we're wrong.

Speaker 4 (35:54):
Well, I'll tell you a funny story, because.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
They're going to deal with people their generation, not ours.

Speaker 4 (35:58):
So my dad is the only person that UH has
ever called. When I was working at Bank of American
Merrilynch in New York, he called my boss directly. And
it was because you know, it probably works like eight
eight days straight. We're working on a big pitch to
a client and I was loving it, but I was
like exhausted, hand slept, but my dad was starting to

(36:19):
get very concerned. So he goes, if you don't tell
them that you need like a couple hours of sleep,
I'm gonna call them. So I was like, no, no,
I'm fine, Like I got this, Like we're almost done.
The next day I show up to work, my boss
comes out, who I was very close, and goes, yeah,
you got to you gotta go home now. He goes,
I got a call from someone, uh and basically, if
you don't go home now, I'm going to get thrown
off the top of the building. So I only knew

(36:40):
there was one person I would call UH and threaten that.
So so yeah, my dad holds that title is the
only person to ever call a guy at Bank of
American Merrillynch and threaten him to throw them off the
building if it's Sunday.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
It's that to some of my ex boyfriends.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Please, Nikki, I've done everything that you've done, Okay, I would,
there's no there's a difference. We don't have limitations when
it comes to you guys. When you guys get hurt,
somebody hurts you, we go right to the devil because
you just hurt the most important things that we have
in our lives. So good luck, God bless anybody that

(37:17):
hurts my daughter, right, anybody that hurts you or your
sister or my son for that matter.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
So the difference here is this is how Joe's supposed
to be, and I'm supposed to be the loving mother, right, like,
oh give me a high, kissy, lovey.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:32):
Unfortunately Joe's he's like the mother. Like he's like the
and I'm the father.

Speaker 5 (37:40):
Right.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
So it's the role reverse.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
If you think, if you think my dad gets mad,
you should see my mom get mad. Oh she's she's
a different, different story too, similar to you.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Like you know, dad get natty blows.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah, he's a sad She doesn't blow a lot. It
only blows a couple times a year.

Speaker 4 (37:53):
Yeah, it takes, it takes a little bit more. But yeah,
I get I get it exactly what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
But listen, there's no such thing as perfect parents. None
of us have perfect parents. And we're not perfect people.
Well yes we are, but we will.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
I have a lot of friends.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
We are purpose for anything that they're terrified to talk
to their parents.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
There's no relationship there because that's why they have Mother's
Day and Father's Day and you get a card.

Speaker 4 (38:18):
Yeah, like if I go three hours talking to my dad,
I call him because I'm nervous. I'm happened to him. Okay,
you are right, what happened? We haven't talked in three hours.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
That's what you say to me if I don't respond
to you in ten seconds.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
We've sent the Red Brigade toget Samantha. Okay, I have
found her in Florida. You have no clue the things
that I've had to do to find her, because she
hasn't called me in an hour? One hour? Does she
answers her phone like this?

Speaker 3 (38:41):
Like this? Like this?

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Okay, We'll go to break Sidney Stumboke Top his Nails
w BZ. We'll be right back and welcome back to
Top his Nails on WBZ News Radio. And I'm Sindy
in here with Sammy.

Speaker 4 (38:50):
And Nico Verno Jr. Actually, great way to wrap this up.
My dad and I are actually going in together on
our first venture together. We're opening it April twenty fourth
in the North End. It's called My Mother's Cutlets. In
my opinion, my mom makes the best chicken colets, and
everybody when you hear the word cutlets wants to cut it.
It's going to be the Italian version of Chipotle. It's
located right next to the original Stray on Hanover Street.

(39:12):
You're basically gonna pick your cutlet, your bread, your bass,
your cheese, your sauce in all right.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
It was like the summer'll beaten colts exactly.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
It'll be the biggest influencer event. They're coming from all
over the world for this.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I better be there. I will be there with my
camera crew. About colors today was well cutlets. We'll bring
them back in for sweaters. Everybody, have a great, safe weekend.
This is Cindy Stumbo tough his nails. WBZ.
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