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November 25, 2025 36 mins

Topics covered include: Getting comfortable in the chaos, moments of brevity, John writing his directorial debut on set of Eternity, double-fisting at TIFF, attending Interlochen at the exact same time, training in opera, Da’Vine’s stint as a camp counselor for child prodigies, ill-informed southern accents for The Laramie Project, witnessing the greatness of Audra McDonald in Gypsy, a shared love of Company, John’s huge plans for Da’Vine’s career, vocal tics, Da’Vine losing her voice on Broadway after she got nominated for a Tony, choosing to be the clown, and the great problem with contemporary musicals.   

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