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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Many of you may have heard this week that the
Boy Scouts of America decided it was going to be
a good idea to.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Change their name.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
What you may not realize is why the headlines from
the liberal media were pretty clear. Wow, there was years
of scandal around the Boy Scouts. That is true, and
so that was the main reason why they needed to
change their name.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
That part is not true.

Speaker 1 (00:28):
There was a very interesting article that was put out
this week by the National Review entitled the Bastardization of
the Boy Scouts. The editors put together a article and
it was basically an article to every Scout that's ever
been through the Scouts, who's ever been a part of it. Now,
I was a Boy Scout when I was younger, went

(00:49):
all the way through. I think I quit, if I
remember correctly, after I got my wee blows.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
So I didn't. I wasn't a lifer. I wasn't an
Eagle Scout.

Speaker 1 (00:57):
I had family members that were Eagle Scouts and friends
that are Eagle Scouts that absolutely loved what the Boy
Scouts had to offer. Now, the Boy Scouts of America.
You may not realize this either. It was found at
one hundred and fourteen years ago by men who were
concerned about the disappearance of traditional boyhood. I want you

(01:20):
to think about that as the backdrop of this entire conversation.
Let me say that again, because there's a word in
there that the left hated, and this is part of
the reason why the left started to take over the
Boy Scouts. They didn't like that the Boy Scouts were
trying to raise traditional men and give children a traditional

(01:40):
boy hood.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
The keyword there is boyhood and most importantly, the cultivation
of masculine virtues.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
They wanted to cultivate young boys to turn.

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Them into young men, masculine men, masculine virtues.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Why did they do this.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
They did this because one hundred and fourteen years ago,
there were some men that understood that when America was
rapidly urbanizing and you were seeing cities in America that
were popping up, they were concerned, right, they were concerned
that men were going.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
To lose that thing that made them men.

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Now, the organization received a hearty endorsement from the adventure
and popular former President Teddy Roosevelt. So there was absolutely
politics involved in the Boy Scouts, and then it became
a pillar of American culture. For much of the twentieth century,
it was something that people looked at when they were hiring.

(02:49):
Were you a Boy Scout? How far did you go?
If you were an Eagle Scout? It was something massive
to put on your resume, whether it was going to
a college or applying for a It was something that
the military also looked out, and it was something that
was very very very very important for the military to

(03:10):
look at see if you could accomplish something that was
not easy.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
You combined all.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
That together and it was one of the most I
think prominent things that someone eighteen or under could get
on their resume that was meaningful, that was impactful. Fast
forward to today, why is it that the Boy Scouts
of America are no longer going to do any of

(03:38):
the things that I just said, Well, look no further
than the CEO of the Boy Scouts of America, a
weak and feeble man by the name of Roger Krohn.
Roger said this in an interview this week to the
Associated Press about the changing of the name.

Speaker 3 (03:58):
Listen carefully sends this really strong message to everyone in
America that they can come to this program, they can
bring their authentic self, they can be who they are
and they will be welcomed.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
Here the argument that I make with the people that say, well,
I always like Boy Scouts of America or BSA, why
do we have to change go? You know, membership is
at historic lows right. Part of my job is to
reduce all the barriers I possibly can for people to
accept us as an organization and to join.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
So, now, what is he saying.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
He's telling you that it's all about membership, the Boy
Scouts of America changing their name to Scouting America to
be quote, more inclusive and welcoming, more inclusive and welcoming.
His words, this is about destroying what it means to
be a masculine man. Now, there are scandals and many

(05:02):
organizations there have been scandals in the Catholic Church. Does
that mean that you change Catholicism because membership goes down?
In fact, I would argue the reason why the Boy
Scouts of America have become irrelevant is not actually because
of the scandals. It is because we allowed the woke
left to grab a hold of Boy Scouts of America

(05:23):
and demand that it becomes Scouting Kumbaya where men or women,
or boys or girls or those that identify as whatever
they want to claim they identify as took over an
organization which core value was raising strong masculine men in America.
So when it happened this week, the Boy Scouts of

(05:46):
America announced it was changing the name to Scouting America,
and that president came out and insisted that, quote, our
mission remains unchanged.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
He's lying to you, he said.

Speaker 1 (05:56):
The mission is, quote, we are committed to teaching young people.
So now we're using people. We're not boys or girls,
are using people, Like, how do you identify as to
be quote prepared for life?

Speaker 2 (06:10):
It's not true.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
In reality, the renaming reflects changes that have already taken
place within the Boy Scouts, including the admission of more
than one hundred and eighty thousand girls. Did you know that, Yes,
one hundred and eighty thousand girls have joined the Boy Scouts.
So they had to change the name. But you notice
they didn't change the name first. No, no, no, no,

(06:32):
They kept the name the same until they guaranteed themselves
enough members that had infiltrated that are not boys, that
are actually girls. And then they said, after they knew
they had strong footing, then they would change the name. Now,
the reports that have come out about the rebranding is
quote specifically aimed at recruiting more quote diverse members. In fact,

(06:58):
CBS News reports that the rebranding is specifically aimed at
recruiting not just more diverse members quote unquote, but more
diverse members from.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
The LGBT community.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
So if you think this is about just including girls,
you're wrong. For many, the name change is only further
confirmation that the Boy Scouts have abandoned their traditional values,
their traditional role of instilling traditional masculine virtues in boys,
becoming yet one more arm of a progressive culture and

(07:35):
a culture war that has gone out to seek out
anything that raises or encourages strong masculine boys slash men.
They ended, by the way, a ban on gay adult
leaders in twenty thirteen, they welcome girls who identify as

(07:56):
boys to enroll in their boys' only program in twenty seventeen,
and they settled that massive sex abuse lawsuit as well.
During all of this, while the President rambled on about
Scouting Americas now dedicated helping young people be their authentic
selves his words authentic selves, leaks online show that even

(08:20):
nominal separation of boys and girls and older troops is
likely to be ended in favor now of co ed arrangements.
We predicted when this was going down in thirteen and
then in seventeen that this would happen. One of the
other reasons why they decided to go after and I'm
talking about the woke mob of the left Boy Scouts

(08:43):
of America is because they didn't like one other aspect.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
What built Boy Scouts.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
Of America were small communities and specifically churches. Virtually everyone
I knew in the Boy Scouts went to a church
for the meetings. So what better way to get rid
of religion in young people than get rid of the
Scouts in churches. When I was young, you went to church,

(09:12):
and you went to church to go to Scouts. The
Boy Scouts were where you met the same people you
went to church with. You spent time with people that
you went to church with in the Scouts at church.
I remember my troop was two seven to six. When
we went on Scouting trips. Did we go on a

(09:32):
Boy Scout van? No, we went in a church van
that said on the side of it first Evangelical Church.
We did have a white trailer that had the Boy
Scout logo on it with Troop two seven six, and
when you went on these events, you were meeting at

(09:52):
the church parking lot.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
What the left understood was the Scouts is a.

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Very dangerous mechanism for instilling traditional values and values that
made men masculine. And they understood that there was opportunities
to infiltrate the Scouts. And what they did at first
is they started getting Scout troops that didn't meet at churches.
Like you got to understand the left, they don't play folks.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
They have a long term goal.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
When they first started opening these different troops that were
more progressive or liberal, they started doing it at places
that were not churches, and then they started to gain
in numbers, and then they would start in certain areas
where the council would be smaller, and then they would say, hey,
we should do this, or we believe that we should

(10:47):
have members that should be able to be openly gay
that are in the running the troops. And eventually the
pressure got to them like okay, fine, we'll let that happen.
And then they say, well hold on, you got to
think about where we are in twenty twenty four, go back,
and I mentioned the years earlier, but in twenty seventeen,

(11:12):
they decided that they let me rephrase that hold on.
They ended the band on gay adult leaders in thirteen.
Then they started welcoming girls who identified as boys to
enroll in their boys only program in seventeen. It's twenty
twenty four. Twenty seventeen was a long time ago, folks.

(11:34):
That's almost I mean what eight years ago. Basically they
were doing that before seventeen, and then seventeen was when
they've officially quote allowed it the idea, and in seventeen
I remember doing a show telling you this is going
to be the beginning of the end of the Boys
Scouts as we know it. When they officially allowed girls
identify as boys into the Boys Scouts. They also when

(12:01):
the Boy Scouts became weak and they settled that massive
sex abuse lawsuit, they understood then that there was a
chance to really get into leadership and fundamentally forever change
the Boy Scouts. And this woke CEO of Boy Scouts
America says, Scouting America is now dedicated to helping young

(12:23):
people right be their authentic self. So this is now
not about your kid becoming a leader, a warrior, a
man's man, a guy's guy, a masculine individual.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Okay, that's not what this is about.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
What it's actually about is taking your kids, just like
they've done in the public schools and giving you your
quote authentic selves, find your own person. This is why
they're moving to boys and girls and older troops, co
ed arrangements. They're not going to separate boys and girls

(13:03):
because they don't want you to believe and they don't
want your kids, I should say, to believe that there
is a difference between boys and girls. Understand that they
do not want you to believe that there is any
difference between the two. And they're going to indoctrinate your
kids to understand that Scouting America is going to face a.

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Decline in membership. I have no doubt because of this.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Okay, when you kick out the churches, right when you
get rid of the churches, you're going to have this problem.
And much like the churches that allowed them to become
woke within their churches and didn't fight to protect the
Boy Scouts, because many churches become weak and they don't
stand up when there are people that are coming in

(13:50):
with secular and progressive values. Scouting America is now Boy
Scouts America and I mean, this is dead. What it
used to be is gone, and that is a victory
for the left. Now you can say, well, we should
start our own, and there's other groups out there that
have started. It will never get as big as Boy
Scouts of America was. Now you could also argue that

(14:12):
because of you sports and other things that now society
has changed and Boy Scouts is not as prominent and
or as important.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
As it was before.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
But let me say this about Boy Scouts and one
of the things that I noticed a lot of the
kids when I was in the Boy Scouts, and this
is back in the nineties, once you got into sports,
and sports is a great way to teach boys how
to become young men and be masculine men and not
weak men. But once sports became a thing, that's when

(14:44):
most of my friends started dropping out of the Scouts.
But the boys that didn't have sports, like they didn't
really connect with baseball or football or basketball, or maybe
they didn't make the eighth grade team because they just
weren't good enough.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Scouting was a phenomenal place.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
For them to be involved, to feel like you're on
a team, and to do something and accomplish something in
your extracurricular activities that was meaningful and significant in the
same way that sports was to many of us. And
so destroying the Boy Scouts of America as the radical

(15:24):
left has now seized it and done this.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
They're now seeing.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
This as an opportunity to get rid of a lot
of the young boys that didn't that weren't involved in
something else, and so now they have a lock on
their minds. A lot of the most masculine men are
not going to be in the Scouts, like certainly now
they're not right, that is success. How many young people's

(15:51):
lives can they now change? Right, You've gotten rid of
God in the Scouts, you got rid of church and
the Scouts you now have these secular and progressive values.
You're telling these Scouts be whoever you want to be.
Scouts are now saying, you know, boys and girls are
no different. You can identify as whatever you want to be.
This is a progressive, radical takeover of one of the
most important institutions in history in this country. This is

(16:17):
no different, by the way than what they've done in
our public schools. So think about the real estate now,
And this is why I went back, go back to
what I said earlier. The left doesn't play the values
that Scouting America is now dedicated to is a complete
opposite of what it was back in the day. And

(16:38):
they're going to be able to do this, and you
want to know why, because major corporations are going to
back them, Major foundations are going to back them. Non
governmental organizations are going to back them. Hollywood is going
to back them, Silicon Valley is going to back them.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
Bye bye.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
By taking over Scouting, what the left has done is
they've said, all right, now we've got your back. You
did it. We are now committed to you. We are
now committed to this trans agenda and this woke radical agenda,
and we're going to have this boy Scouts that die,
the word boys died.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
This is such a.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Massive victory and we are going to grab the minds
of a lot of people that aren't that are easier.
I think they believe to influence because real men, a
lot of ro men are not going to be in
the Scouts anymore, because their fathers are not going to
allow them to be in in this version of the Scouts.

(17:40):
I know if I was a kid now, my dad
wouldn't put me in the Scouting of America. He'd be like,
that's a liberal, woke organization. But you know who they're
really prying after going after right now. They're going after
and taking advantage of a lot of single mothers who
are desperate for their children to have something that teaches

(18:02):
them civility and manners, and they're going to use these
woke leaders to then go after these kids that are
desperate for role models. This is about replacing a parent.
That's what this is all about. You look at the Left,
and this is why I say they're playing at a

(18:23):
different level. They're playing the long game, and they're understanding.
They are understanding that if you can become the father
to the child, then you can control the child's destiny,
their mind, their values, their beliefs. This is like a
thirty year game, folks. This isn't a one year game.

(18:46):
This isn't a six month game. This is something that
they started in our public schools. And when public schools
started to go bad, the conservatives ran to give their
kids the best education possible. They ran to private schools,
and the liberals said, okay, this is awesome. The majority

(19:06):
of kids in America are going to go to public schools.
So let's own that. Let's indoctrinate them to believe in
radical extremist values Marxism, socialism, communism. Won't use those words
early on, but we'll get them to believe that the
government is your father. And then they saw something in
the public schools. They saw the breakdown of the home.

(19:27):
They saw that more than fifty percent of marriages were
inning in divorces. They saw that there was a lot
of single moms out there that were desperate for extracurricular
activities while they were at work. You got to understand
the number one reason why a single mom is looking
for extracurricular activities is in a weird way. And I'm
not blaming them, but it's selfish. Right, I got to work,

(19:49):
so I got to get them in something after school.
And the left was like, hey, we got you. We'll
take over the arts, right, we'll take over the after programs.
We might not be able to take over sports, but
we can take over everything else but sports. And the
Scouts was a great next target, and they did. They

(20:11):
targeted it perfectly because if your kid's not playing sports
and you need an extra cricke activity, and you hear
boy Scouts of America you're gonna immediately say yeah, let's
sign them.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
Up for that.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
That's a great idea, right, Like, you're not gonna stop
and say, oh, I don't know about this group.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
This group's went around forever. You have a great connotation.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
They had great marketing, they had great history, they had
great pr They built strong young men, and if you're
a woman without a husband at home, you're looking for that,
for someone to really dive into your son. And then
they saw something else. They saw the breakdown of the home,

(20:50):
especially among the African American community, and they saw an
opportunity to then, just like democrats have done with the
African American community, they have.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Pandered to them.

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Right, Hey vote for us and will literally be your father,
will be your dad. Hey vote for us, and we'll
give you free food, We'll give you free housing, will
give you basically money like your father of your children
should be doing, and will take care of you.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Just got to keep voting for us.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
You have to understand this is, in my opinion, so
much bigger than the Boy Scouts America. This is an
entire plan for the radical left to become the parents
of your children. You look at this transagenda and the
Boy Scouts America. And when it started, it was a

(21:45):
long running war on all male spaces, which the left hates,
and Boy Scouts America was an all male space. And
what they did was they said, Okay, no, we're gonna
change that, and we're gonna fight hard to change it,
but we're going to.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
Play the long game here.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
And when the transgender movements war on men happen, and
then this even war on female only spaces and it
kicked into high gear, what do they say? The progressive said,
now's time for us to claim our victory.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
We're going to go into these.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Campaigns that say that if you support gender only groups
will come after you and we will attack your company.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
And what happened Boy Scouts of America.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
They started losing their funding, They started losing their funding, and.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
Then the scandals came. And where the left do.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
They used it to tear down the Boy Scouts of
America even more because they understood that they could potentially
have the millions of boys' minds, millions of kids under
their supervision over decade after decade, and they could destroy
what the Boy Scouts actually were. I go back to

(22:57):
the Boy Scouts of America. Where did the Boy Scouts
really get their footing. They got their footing in the church,
They got their footing in family values. They got their
footing in a home that had a mother and a father.
And then that started to change, and they saw that

(23:18):
it started to change. And this is another example of
a warning sign.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
And by the way, they're doing.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
This in religion right now. You look at the left
and what they've done with religion. They've gone into churches
and many churches and denominations and they've slowly started to
take over and they all they started saying, no, no, we'll
have gay marriage, We'll have gay pastors. Right, who cares
what the Bible says, because this is no longer about that, right.

(23:46):
But you look at what they've done in churches, taking
over entire congregations and separating churches and dividing churches. Why
because conservatives were not willing to fight, they saw opportunities churches.
They didn't go after the biggest churches with these changes.
They went after the weakest churches. Okay, they went after

(24:06):
the weakest churches. They went after the churches that had
attendance numbers that were down, and they were desperate for
money and funding, and they came in.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
They said, hey, hey, we'll help out. We want to
be here.

Speaker 1 (24:21):
You look at the radical left, the Marxist, the socialists,
the communists, they have years of figuring this out, years
and years and years, decades and decades of.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Watching what works and doesn't work around the world.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
If you can take away faith in people, then the
government can become your religion. If you can take away
the father in the home, then the government can become
the father. If you can take away traditional marriage where
no one gets married, then you become the husband or

(24:58):
the wife to the other person, the government. You look
at the strongest relationships in America today, I would argue
the strongest relationship in America today is the relationship between
the government and the single mothers, the single parents. You
look at education. How many parents are not involved in

(25:20):
their kids' education anymore in the public school system. They
just drop them off. It's become daycare. Why has it
become daycare? Because they've allowed it to become daycare. So
why is the Boy Scouts of America rebranding? It's real
and something else I do have.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
To say about this.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
This rebranding happened by an organization that was a Texas
based organization founded one hundred and fourteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
It became a weak organization because it was.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
Involved in scandal and turmoil over the flood of sexual
abuse claims and bankruptcy. And they said, no, no, no,
we're not going to let this I We're gonna, we're gonna,
We're gonna save you. The left came in and said,
we're gonna save you, but we're gonna have to save
you by bringing girls. And the only way you can
survive is if we have an inclusive message, uh that

(26:14):
girls can join throughout its ranks and boys that identify
as girls can join throughout the ranks. The chief executive
officer said, quote, it sends us really strong message to
everyone in America that can come to this program. So
everyone can come, right, We got rid of boys or
boys and girls or girls. Anyone can come. We sent

(26:37):
a really strong message his words that they can come
and be who they are and they will be welcomed here.
By the way, you want to know when this CEO
took over, he took over last fall. He was too
progressive and liberal to take over five years ago. And
so now the change was announced after many conservatives of

(27:00):
ban in the organization, many churches that were not going
to do Boy Scouts anymore. And it was announced on
Tuesday at the Boy Scouts national meeting in Florida. They
didn't have their meeting in Texas but Florida, and they
said this is going to change everything.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
And they're right.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
The Boy Scouts have been murdered, and they've been murdered
by the extreme and radical left who are now saying,
going forward, all children and teens are very very welcome,
regardless of how you identify. By the way you notice,
the same thing has to happen for them to take over.

(27:38):
Something had to be weak. When people are poor, liberals
can take over. You know why Donald Trump was the
biggest threat to the Democratic Party in twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen,
and nineteen because he was empowering people to take care
of themselves and he was making the Democratic Party irrelevant,
and only because of COVID he didn't win reelection.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
The Scouts understand something.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You have to make organizations weak so that you can
then take them over, because if they're strong, you can't
take them over. Public education became weak.

Speaker 2 (28:14):
It's a failure. Look at public education in America day,
it's a failure.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
The majority of public schools, the major cities are failing
schools with failing grades, where kids that aren't even graduating
with an eighth grade reading, writing, arithmetic level of understanding,
but they've taken them over. They don't care if your
kids failing. They don't care if your kids winning. They
don't care if your kid can read right and do arithmetic,
as long as they own their mind when they send

(28:38):
them out into society. You look at the biggest cities
in America today, what do we have? High crime, high poverty,
a massive amount of single mothers. They don't care if
you're actually suffering, not living your best life because they
control you. The government has become the father to all
of these children. You have to have a week home,

(28:59):
you have to have a weak family, you have to
have week everything for there to be an opportunity to
take over. And the problem you know, I'm gonna read
you an ap line here it says quote. Like other organizations,
the Scouts lost members during the pandemic when participation was difficult.
The high point over the past decade was in eighteen

(29:21):
when there were over two million Scouts. Currently, the organization
serves just over one million, so they've lost half their membership.
A million people disappeared. Okay, they lost one million young people,
including more than one hundred and seventy six thousand girls
and teens. So of the one million people, almost twenty
percent of girls. Membership peaked in nineteen seventy two at

(29:45):
more than five million members. Just to put it in perspective,
and the new CEO said that although the name is changed,
in the core of the organization is staying the same.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
No, it's not.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
Our mission remains unchanged. We're committed to teaching young people
to be prepared for life. In a written statement, that's
not what's happened. The real organization allowing gay members in thirteen,
ending blanket band on gay adult leaders in fifteen. In seventeen,
they made the historic announcement the girls will be accepted
as cub Scouts, and as of twenty eighteen, they decided,

(30:17):
you know, hey, we're gonna get rid of the Boy
Scout program.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
We're gonna rename it.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
Congratulations, folks, they've done it. They have killed another amazing
American organization, and they did it by playing the long game.
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(30:42):
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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