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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We've got a lot to discuss today, and there's two
major stories. Number One, Joe Biden has now gone full
blown anti Israel, calling for a two state solution and
demanding a ceasefire from Israel after Israel is continuing to
go after the actual terrorists that are killing so many
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Jews in America and around the world. They are targeting
Jews and they are wanting to kill them. We now
know the Democratic Party is against the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We know they're the ones that are supporting.
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Supplying, and funding the anti Semitic protesters on college campuses
and calling for the annihilation of the Jewish people from
the river to the sea. That is being funded by
the Democratic Party elite, those that have the most cash
to spend, billionaires like George Soros and others. They are
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We also know.
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nine to seven to two Patriot. Michael Cohen has got
some problems because he's been lying. Yes, he has been
lying on the stand. MSNBC talking about it. They spent
about eight minutes trying to rehab him. But Michael Cohen
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is lying. NBC News covering the Trump trial said, Michael
Cohen lying quote not a devastating blow to the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Admitting that he is lying on the stand. Take a listen, Danny,
let's bring you in here.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
How significant a moment was that?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, does that really give the jury something to doubt?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Here?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It's significant, but I appear to be in the minority.
A lot of folks seem to think this was a
devastating blow for the prosecution. I don't see it that way.
I doubt the prosecutions is that way. I would bet
the defense doesn't even consider it that Michael Cohen is
a cooperating witness. By definition, he's a guy who has
credibility issues. So when you're asking him about a phone call,
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and if you catch him, they're going to say in
a lie or maybe forgetting what the reason was for
his phone call eight years ago. A couple of things
could happen. The jury might think, oh, he's concealing it,
which is bad for the prosecution, or they may just
conclude it was eight years ago he just doesn't remember.
So really, I don't think it was a devastating blow
to the prosecution, but it's something they may want to
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clean up on redirect. Do look for the defense to
focus on that phone call in their closing and say
Michael Cohen himself has reasonable doubt about whether or not
he even called Donald Trump. You should have reasonable doubt
about his story. He's a liar, he's got a motive
to lie, and we even caught him in one particular lie.
Expect something like that, for them to focus on that
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one moment in a cross examination that otherwise didn't have
a lot of aha moments.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, so because of that, no court today. We expect
this cross will wrap up on Monday.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
What more do you think the defense needs to do
to try and make their case here? Needs to do nothing.
They don't have the burden to prove anything, and they
will say that several times in their closing That's why
you may see the defense called zero witnesses. It happens
more often than you think. I frequently call no witnesses.
It's a risk averse move to do so. I wouldn't
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be surprised if they rest with no evidence, no witnesses,
and then just proceed to closing arguments and really try
to argue that the state has not proved the case
beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I love how NBC News there says He's like, look,
I'm in the minority here.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Did you hear that? I don't think this is devastating.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're on a trial, you're a juror, and the main
witness that this entire case revolves around is caught lying
on the stand. Now, there was also something else that
was very damning that was played during this court case.
And this is part number two that I think is
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extremely important when it comes to all of this, Okay,
and that is Michael Cohen has made it clear. Michael
Cohen is a guy that hates Donald Trump. He's made
money off of attacking Donald Trump. They played the audio
in the court case so that they could hear him
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on TikTok attacking the president of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Listen to what Michael Cohen.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Again, this is Michael Cohen in his own words about
Donald Trump, and the jury heard this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It was played in court.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I truly can hope that this man dands up in prison.
It won't bring back the year that I lost or
the damage done to my family, But revenge is a
dish best serve cold, and you better believe I want
this man to go down and rot in sighth for
what he did to me and my family.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, so you were.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He wants him to rot Okay, I let's let's just
let's just back that up quote. I truly effing hope
that this man ends up in prison, the man Donald Trump.
It won't bring back the year that I lost or
the damage under my family. But revenge is a dish.
Revenge this man's talking about. Revenge is a dish. Best
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serve cold. And you better believe I want this man
to go down and rot inside for what he did
to me and my family. So the this is on TikTok.
This guy, this is their this is their witness. Okay, like,
this is their guy. And then he gets caught lying
about a phone call. So you you have to ask
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yourself the question, right, And this is the same question
that MSNBC brought up, like, hey, this.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Guy's a liar. The jury knows he's a liar.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
NBC News like, well, we think they'll overlook it. They
can get over the line, right way, we can move
past this. Keep listening to the MSNBC trying to rehab Michael
coh into the world and.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
At the courthouse again. Yesterday we talked about that podcast
moment in just a second, but let's go back to
because it was a little confusing, maybe as you listened
through it. What was Todd Blanche What was the Trump
defense team getting at with that text and phone call
between Michael Cohen and the bodyguard Keith Schiller.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
Well, let's talk about there was a narrow implication and
then a much broader one, Wally that they were trying
to draw. The first thing they were trying to say
is that Cohen's testimony about the phone call on October
twenty fourth between him and Keith Schiller, which he testified
was really a call to Trump about the Stormy Daniel's settlement,
wasn't true. They presented him with text messages and phone
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call records that hadn't been part of his direct examination.
And the insinuation was you manufacture this when you said
you talked to Keith Shiller in order to talk to
Donald Trump about finalizing the Stormy Daniels settlement. That didn't
really happen, did it. You had a minute and thirty long, minute,
thirty second long phone call with him, and juxtaposed with
these texts about the fourteen year old who was prank
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calling you at the time, it's pretty clear that you
called Keith Shiller to complain about that to get secret
service involved to get security involved in these harassing phone calls.
It had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels. That may
or may not be true. It is also true that
two days later, on the twenty six, there is indisputably
calls between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump. And I expect
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on redirect that we'll hear a lot from the prosecution
about that. That Michael Cohen certainly notified Donald Trump and
spoke with him for some longer period of time as
he was finalizing it. But the broader implication that Todd
Blanche was trying to draw is, if you can't trust
Michael Cohen about this phone call, can you really trust
any of his testimony about the conversations that he had
with Donald Trump at the time? After all, this was
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nearly eight years ago. And isn't it really the case
that Michael Cohen's recollection is not organic, but is rather
the construction of multiple prep sessions upon prep sessions with
prosecutors from the Manhattan DIA's office who have constructed a
memory in Michael Cohen that didn't organically exist about a
conversation that never happened, and others as well.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So he lied, he lied right there in this court case,
not eight years ago. He took a phone call and
a phone call record and then said that a big,
long conversation took place about Stormy down on some paying
her off. That was a one minute and thirty second
phone call with text messages that the defense never shared
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with the court that were clearly about a harassing phone
call and wanting to get the Secret Service involved somebody
that was harassing them and that's why the phone call
even took place, and said I need to talk to
you about this, and he's like, oh crap, I lied,
I made it all up. Oh wait, I just took
a phone call and said something else was talked about.
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But the text message show that the phone call happened
for one reason because of a different subject.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Sann.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
By the way, they're now hedging their bets having to
admit that this isn't going well. Sann's Anderson Cooper said
it this way about what happened to Michael Cohen and
the cross examination by Trump's legal team.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
It was an extraordinary cross examination by Todd Blanche and
you know Michael Cohen's throughout the day. Michael Cohen went
cornered and when he found himself in a corner. He
does have a pattern of suddenly not understanding the question
that being asked. It seemingly kind of I mean, one
could say buying time to try to figure out what
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how he wants to answer, but he definitely suddenly starts to,
you know, have a Todd blanche repeat questions and said,
I quite understand what you mean.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm confused by the question.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
But this time Michael Cohen was was cornered in what
appeared to be a lie. I think too many in
the room and had to adjust suddenly his memory that
he had just testified to on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I mean, you can hear it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They're like, okay, we we gotta just kind of admit
things aren't good, right. Trump's attorney cornered Michael Cohen what
appeared to be a lie. So so so now they're
saying what everybody else was watching in the court, this
was a lie. It was a lie, and it happened
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to the jury, and it was a lie that it
just was gonna happen. There's also Trump lawyer's cross examining
Michael Cohen, and and this is another thing that they
said on CNN.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Listen, we knew Caitlin Collins that they were going to
be aggressive against Michael Cohen, and it seems that mister
Blanche had a few tricks up his sleeve things we
did not anticipate. We anticipated that he was going to
ask Michael Cohen about a number of things that he
had said under oath that he had since admitted were
not true, about contradictions he had made in terms of
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telling one judge that he was pleading guilty to a
crime because he's guilty of it, telling another judge that
he was never guilty of that crime, then trying to
get permission from another judge to have unsupervised release. But
now we are learning that he had even more than
we knew. I want to bring in former Trump White
House communications director Alissa Farrah Griffin. Alissa, So, Michael Cohen
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says he never sought a job at the White House.
The prosecutors, I mean, Michael Cohen said he never sought
a job at the White House. Ryan Lanza here, who
worked on the twenty sixteen campaign, says that's not true.
He recalls Michael Cohen one to be White House counsel.
We have some journalists on our panel here saying that's
not true. They were called Michael Cohen saying he was
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going to join the White House. He was very excited
to do so, according to Blanche. By the way, Cohen,
this is about the harassing calls. Cohen said the person
they would have to explain to the Secret Service. The
person replied, I'm fourteen, Please don't do this. This is
when Michael Cohen was getting a harassing phone calls. There
is a block feature on phones, by the way, if
you're getting harassing phone calls in any case, Alizafir Griffin,
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tell me what.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So listen. I was working for a number of Republican
lawmakers at that time, several of whom would go into
the administration, including mcmulvaney as omb Director. And it was
widely known and believed. Now, Michael Cohen never told me firsthand,
I'm going into the White House. I want to, but
it was widely discussed that he was angling for attorney
general or to be a White House counsel's. I mean,
there's dozens and dozens of people around Washington who could
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cooperate that. My jaw hit the floor when I hurt him.
That and is a practical matter which is probably extraneous
to this discussion, but I'll share anyway, he likely wouldn't
have qualified for a job in the West Wing. You
have to be able to get a top secret security clearance.
They would have gone through his finances. Frankly, this home
equity line probably would have shown up. The payment that
he got back likely would have shown up on a
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financial disclosure. But yeah, that really struck me. And to
be honest, I do not think this is going the
way the prosecution had hoped.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So I love the way you think. Yeah, this would
have shown up. Of course, it would have shown up
when you go through the background check, it would have
shown up.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Here MSNBC one of their hosts, right, Ari Melbert, saying
this about the case. He's one of their hosts. He
was like, I'm outside the courtroom. I gotta be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
I think the punches are building cumulatively. I think Tuesday
there were bruises and today there's blood. To extend the metaphor,
they're not done. This is a back and forth process.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
I was listening to.
Speaker 10 (16:01):
Your reporting, following along, like everyone, I'm going back in
the court room next. I was just speaking to our
Colleaguelaurence o'donald, who spoke to MSNBC today as well. I
think the collective view is these are moments the jury
will remember and they are instilling or adding possible doubts
about Michael Cohen's long term credibility, as I think everyone
knows by new has followed the trial. The question is
and has he changed his mind and retracted things? Both
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sides agree on that that's not in doubt. The question
is does this guy still lie? And if he does
still lie about anything, little, medium or large, can you
trust him? And the standard is not okay, do we
have to be convinced that he lies about everything? The
standard for the jury and why Blanche is making some progress, is,
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by the end of this, does the jury have reasonable
doubt about Cohen telling the truth on elements of the crime.
The other stuff won't ultimately matter when they deliberate it
just a cruise. But what we saw in that kind
of dramatic back and forth that it's been described today, well,
but you did lie and have you and why do
you sound like this? And a podcast where you might
sound allegedly unhinged. All of that accruise to whether jurors
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go back and say I doubt whether he's telling the
truth about an element of the crime, for example, Trump's
criminal intent back in sixteen. So I think they are
landing blows Andrea.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's MSNBC there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And the reason why they're saying this, and the reason
why they're doing this is they're trying to get out
of the fact that they're the ones that pushed this
case and said Donald Trump's going to be found guilty. Now, look,
Donald Trump could still be found guilty. I want to
be clear about that, because you're in a courtroom in
a place, Okay, you're in a courtroom in a place
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where what ninety percent of the people voted against Donald J.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, so that they could still do this. But you
hope that there's at least one juror out there that
luks and says I can't trust Michael Cohen. How could
I trust Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen lied to our face.
He lied about a phone call, He lied about not
trying to get a job at the White House, which
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everyone knew he was trying to get at the White House.
Michael Cohen was was the reason why we've been told
he paid Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket. Was
he was basically using it, almost as if it was
like a shoe in for the White House job. In Blackmail,
it was like, Hey, I took out a heelock loan
that my wife didn't even know about because I know
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she wouldn't let me do this. I paid this myself,
mister President, because I didn't want it to be embarrassing
to you, and so I took all this risk for you. Man,
I need a job in the White House. I want
to be the Attorney General, which tells you how delusional
he is. I said, it's on Fox this week. I said,
Michael Cohen wasn't on the A list, he wasn't on
the B list. He went on the C list. He
would on the WTF list. Okay, Michael Cohen was never
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going to be the Attorney General. Michael Cohen was never
going to be White House counsel either. Like that was
never ever ever going to happen. Michael Cohen was never
getting those jobs. And it shows you how delusional he
is that he thought he could become the Attorney General
of the United States of America when he's a guy
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that was hoping to get the job.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Only because.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
He paid out of his own pocket Stormy Daniels some
cash so he could use it as leverage, or you
could argue at this point blackmail to then try to
force Trump to give him the job that he desperately
wanted so he would be important, right, Because really, that's
what this is all about. He wanted to be important.
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He wanted to be really, really really important. He wanted
to be the man. He wanted to make sure that
he was the man.
Speaker 10 (19:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He wanted to make.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sure that when people looked at Michael Cohen, he was
a guy in the White House that made it. He
didn't want to get left behind, and so he probably thought, Hey,
paying Stormy Daniels some cash, pulling out a heelock loan,
hiding it from my wife, this is money well spent,
because I'm gonna get paid back when he gets to
the White House.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
He's gonna owe me one.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Now that the jury's got all of this, they've got
a lie that they know was told to them during
the trial. They've got other lies that have now been
clearly exposed. He told in the past, and then he's
lied at the trial about his lies in the past.
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So it's like three different ways of lying that he's
all been caught to the point where MSNBC says, hey,
he was bruised yesterday, now he's bleeding today. I want
to get by the way, and I'm going to keep
covering everything going on with a Trump trial. Make sure
you listen to the podcasts all week. I'm going to
be doing the podcast every day as all, but we're
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going to be really focusing a lot on the Trump
trial and what happens this week.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So download it, listen to it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Ben Ferguson podcasts every every day, and I'm going to
keep you updated on what's happening in this trial. But
there's also what I mentioned earlier that I want to
get to and that deals with what's also going on now,
specifically with Israel. President Biden now is continuing to show
how much he is working not with Israel, not for Israel,
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but against Israel. And the reason why he's working against
Israel is because he's had to sell sell his soul
to the terrorists, to the devil, to Hamas to try
to get the thirty five and younger crowd of the
Democratic Party, which are socialists, Marxists.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And communists on his side, on his team.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's what this really boils down to the Democratic Party,
and the polling numbers are showing now overwhelmingly that Joe
Biden is in real trouble with younger voters and specifically
younger voters that believe that the president should not be
supporting and or advocating for Israel. They hate Israel, they
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hate the Jews, and they want to push the Jews
into the sea is how they describe it. From the
river the sea. They want to exterminate all the Jews.
It's no different than the Hitler mentality. Now, it's all,
I want to be clear, a campaign tactic for him
to avoid losing the support of the anti Israel wing
of the Democratic Party, the socialist, communists and Marxist as
I've said and I will continue to say over again
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over again, because I do believe that the Democratic Party
is in fact dead. Okay, I completely believe that the
Democratic Party is dead. They are now Marxists and socialists
and communists who are mascer rating as Democrats. AMA's supporters,
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by the way, are screaming about palies in in casualties
for example, and there this is happening on college campuses
and at college graduations. It's important to remember that the
casualty numbers that we are getting are coming directly from
the terrorist organization Hamas. And even though we're getting these
numbers from Hamas, the Biden administration is treating these casualty
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numbers as if they are fact. Now, this is the
same organization, by the way, who that are giving us
these casual casualty numbers. That the same exact people who
also told you that Israel bomb a hospital in Gaza,
which didn't happen. In fact, it was a rocket, a
misfired rocket from the terrorists Hamas that landed in the
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parking lot. And they also said I think there was
what was it, five hundred casualties or fifty, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It was a significant number of casualties.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And the reporters all ran with us, every major news
organization ran with it, and then they had to retract
it or act like, go, oh wait, we had bad information.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So they lied.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
They basically bombed their own hospital parking lot and then
said there was hundreds of casualties that were happened by Israel,
And they said that Israel bombed the parking lot, and
then there was like very clear evidence that no, Israel
didn't bomb a hospital and there was zero casualties and
that it was their own rocket that did it. And
then what happened, Oh, the media just moved on right away.
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So to be clear, the same people that are giving
the casually numbers to the world, the same people that
lied to you about that bombing. And what did the
White House say about this week when they were asked like, Hey,
these these casually numbers are really high that are coming
out of Amah, you know, of Gaza. The problem is
the numbers are coming from the terrorists. Do you guys
trust these numbers and listen to what Listen carefully what
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Kirby said at the White House.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I have a question about the death tool of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Does President by neck confidence and the casualty numbers coming
out of Gaza.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
The President watches this very very closely, and you've heard
him talk about the more than thirty thousand people have
been killed, and he said the majority of women and children.
He's also said that's unacceptable. And as we've maintained time
and time again, the right number of civilian casualties ought
to be zero. But in terms of you know what
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specific number we're quoting or citing on any given day.
I mean, we're doing the best we can, working with
the Israelis to ascertain the scope of the civilian suffering.
But it's obviously a mess.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's this confidence in the numbers come out of Gaza
increased since late October, and he said he had no
confidence in the numbers.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
If you've heard the President talked about the numbers and
talk about the concern. And the most important thing, aside
from obviously how tragic that is, is what we're doing
to alleviate and help improve conditions in Gaza, including through
this temporary here today.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Again, this is a guy Kirby at the White House
that's sitting there going, yes, we do trust the numbers
coming from the terraces. The same terrorists that lie about
everything and lied about a hospital being bombed by Israel
and lied about casualties connected to the bombing of a
hospital which never happened, and they lie about the number
of casualis to make Israel look bad and to get
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the pressure on the rest of the world to tell
Israel that they're going too far and they're killing too
many civilians. And the White House is sitting there given
an opportunity to do the right things.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Day.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of course, we don't trust these numbers. We can't trust
these numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Look, we don't want anyone to die, but we're not
going to sit here and believe the terrorist numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like, we would never do that. That would have been
a normal answer. That's not what they did. You won't
know why.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Because they're completely beholden to the radicals and the terrorists
in the Democratic Party, and so they can't tell you
the truth here, Like it's not acceptable. It's not something
that they're allowed to do. They cannot tell you that. Look,
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of course, we don't trust the terrorists, right, Like, of
course we don't try us to terrorists. They're like, no, no, no,
we trust the numbers. No, no, we have no problem
with the numbers. No, no, we think the numbers are fine.
Like we're all in on these numbers. These numbers are good, right, Like,
these numbers are totally We're totally like, these numbers are legit.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
We have no issue with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Let me go back to another point here, all right
deals with Kirby as well. Kirby has asked another question here,
and this is actually.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
A really simple question.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Are you guys with holding weapons deliveries from Israel, because
that's what we're being told, and Israel desperately needs these
weapons to protect and defend themselves and go after the
actual terrorists. In fact, the weapons now that we are
withholding from Israel are the weapons that are the precision
guided bombs that make sure that the loss of life
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and innocent people are more than likely never killed because
these precision guided bombs are so vitally important to just
hitting the terraces.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And so those precision guided.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Bombs that you could, you could argue the safest bombs
that Israel can use to take out the terrace and
not kill civilians are now officially being withheld.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You heard that, right, are being withheld from Israel.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And the White House is asked about, like, are you
guys withholding these bombs from Israel or ally and listen
to the way they lie the American people's not a withholding.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
There's a pause put in place on a shipment of
two thousand pound bombs and that pause is still in place.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Huh so, so it's a pause on these bombs. He's like, no, no,
it's not a pause.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We're just withholding the bombs that's all we're doing here.
This is just this is just us holding. We're not
We're not withholding. We're just hitting a pause here, it's
a pause. This is a lie, this is this is semantics,
and they're trying to have it both ways. Hey, we're
not gonna give Israel what they need, but we're gonna
withhold what they what they desperately need, and somehow this
(29:05):
will work out.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So then you look at Joe Biden. Is Joe Biden
taking his hand fully off of Israel?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
The answer, yes, Joe Biden is one hundred percent now
working basically for.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Hamas and the terrorist organization.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Joe Biden was at a commencement ceremony and Joe Biden
was talking about Israel and talking about the Palestinians or Hamas. However,
however the hell you want to put it, and what
Joe Biden said was I am in favor now of
a two state solution. The only way we're gonna get
this is if there is a two state solution.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
What does that mean in translation? Take exactly what it means.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
What it means in translation is Israel, You're gonna have
to live with the terrorists, and you better pay attention
and live with a terrorists, because I'm in favor of
a two state solution, which would include the terrorists, I
would assume being in charge.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right, Like, the terrorists are clearly in charge. Now. The
President of the United.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
States of America is up there and saying, Okay, I'm
all in for the terrorists. I'm defending the terrorists. What
else do you want from me, you guys in this audience, right, like,
I'm all in for the terrorists. Here he's at Morause
College and he's talking about I'm in favor of a
two stay solution. We must have a two stat solution.
And I'm withholding these bombs. But just a pause, is right?
(30:39):
The White House says, are you kidding me? Morehouse College graduates,
by the way, they turn their backs on crooked Joe Biden,
which was hysterical to me. This is a guy that
just sits there at Morause College and straight aupplies to you.
He lies over and over again and throws Israel under
the bus in the process of lying to.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
They didn't even want him, by the way, at Morehouse College, right,
they didn't want him there. In fact that the audio
from CNN talks about how the president I s it's
America who goes to Morehouse, who's trying to get back voters.
Listen to what they said about him right now and
how bad is among the back vote.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
A new Fox News poll shows just how much President
Biden support among black voters has fallen since the last election.
Take a look at this. In twenty twenty, he enjoyed
a dominant seventy five point margin, but now that margin
has dropped to just forty nine points. What are you
hearing from voters out there about why this is and
what is the Biden team's plan to try to turn
(31:41):
these numbers around?
Speaker 13 (31:42):
You know, well, if I spoke to black voters earlier
this year for some reporting, and their concerns are primarily economic.
It's a deep frustration with stagnant wages. It's anxiety about
being able to afford a home. They feel as though
they keep voting for Democrats and they're live, aren't getting
any materially bitter.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
A new Fox News polish, I mean, did you hear that?
Did you hear what he just said? The black vote
is running away from Joe Biden on purpose. So look,
Joe Biden can go out there to morehouse and he
can try to, you know, get all the support he wants.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They turn their back on him. They don't They don't
trust him.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Israel doesn't trust him. The terrorists like him, the extremists
don't like him enough. This guy is foundering with every
core group he needs right now because he's trying to
play both sides of every single issue, and it's backfiring.
Sometimes you just have to stand up to the evil
ones in the world. And yet he's afraid about losing
(32:39):
a reelection, so he's saying, Okay, Hamas, I'll work with
you now, I'll be on your team and I'll go
after Israel instead.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That's a problem.
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We've got a lot to discuss today, and there's two
major stories. Number One, Joe Biden has now gone full
blown anti Israel, calling for a two state solution and
demanding a ceasefire from Israel after Israel is continuing to
go after the actual terrorists that are killing so many
(00:23):
Jews in America and around the world. They are targeting
Jews and they are wanting to kill them. We now
know the Democratic Party is against the Jewish people.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
We know they're the ones that are supporting.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Supplying, and funding the anti Semitic protesters on college campuses
and calling for the annihilation of the Jewish people from
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We also know.
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nine to seven to two Patriot. Michael Cohen has got
some problems because he's been lying. Yes, he has been
lying on the stand. MSNBC talking about it. They spent
about eight minutes trying to rehab him. But Michael Cohen
(03:42):
is lying. NBC News covering the Trump trial said, Michael
Cohen lying quote not a devastating blow to the prosecution.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
Admitting that he is lying on the stand. Take a listen, Danny,
let's bring you in here.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
How significant a moment was that?
Speaker 4 (03:59):
I mean, does that really give the jury something to doubt?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Here?
Speaker 5 (04:02):
It's significant, but I appear to be in the minority.
A lot of folks seem to think this was a
devastating blow for the prosecution. I don't see it that way.
I doubt the prosecutions is that way. I would bet
the defense doesn't even consider it that Michael Cohen is
a cooperating witness. By definition, he's a guy who has
credibility issues. So when you're asking him about a phone call,
(04:22):
and if you catch him, they're going to say in
a lie or maybe forgetting what the reason was for
his phone call eight years ago. A couple of things
could happen. The jury might think, oh, he's concealing it,
which is bad for the prosecution, or they may just
conclude it was eight years ago he just doesn't remember.
So really, I don't think it was a devastating blow
to the prosecution, but it's something they may want to
(04:44):
clean up on redirect. Do look for the defense to
focus on that phone call in their closing and say
Michael Cohen himself has reasonable doubt about whether or not
he even called Donald Trump. You should have reasonable doubt
about his story. He's a liar, he's got a motive
to lie, and we even caught him in one particular lie.
Expect something like that, for them to focus on that
(05:07):
one moment in a cross examination that otherwise didn't have
a lot of aha moments.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah, so because of that, no court today. We expect
this cross will wrap up on Monday.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
What more do you think the defense needs to do
to try and make their case here? Needs to do nothing.
They don't have the burden to prove anything, and they
will say that several times in their closing That's why
you may see the defense called zero witnesses. It happens
more often than you think. I frequently call no witnesses.
It's a risk averse move to do so. I wouldn't
(05:38):
be surprised if they rest with no evidence, no witnesses,
and then just proceed to closing arguments and really try
to argue that the state has not proved the case
beyond a reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I love how NBC News there says He's like, look,
I'm in the minority here.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Did you hear that? I don't think this is devastating.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're on a trial, you're a juror, and the main
witness that this entire case revolves around is caught lying
on the stand. Now, there was also something else that
was very damning that was played during this court case.
And this is part number two that I think is
(06:17):
extremely important when it comes to all of this, Okay,
and that is Michael Cohen has made it clear. Michael
Cohen is a guy that hates Donald Trump. He's made
money off of attacking Donald Trump. They played the audio
in the court case so that they could hear him
(06:41):
on TikTok attacking the president of the United States of America.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Listen to what Michael Cohen.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
Again, this is Michael Cohen in his own words about
Donald Trump, and the jury heard this.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
It was played in court.
Speaker 6 (06:56):
I truly can hope that this man dands up in prison.
It won't bring back the year that I lost or
the damage done to my family, But revenge is a
dish best serve cold, and you better believe I want
this man to go down and rot in sighth for
what he did to me and my family.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay, so you were.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
He wants him to rot Okay, I let's let's just
let's just back that up quote. I truly effing hope
that this man ends up in prison, the man Donald Trump.
It won't bring back the year that I lost or
the damage under my family. But revenge is a dish.
Revenge this man's talking about. Revenge is a dish. Best
(07:36):
serve cold. And you better believe I want this man
to go down and rot inside for what he did
to me and my family. So the this is on TikTok.
This guy, this is their this is their witness. Okay, like,
this is their guy. And then he gets caught lying
about a phone call. So you you have to ask
(07:59):
yourself the question, right, And this is the same question
that MSNBC brought up, like, hey, this.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Guy's a liar. The jury knows he's a liar.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
NBC News like, well, we think they'll overlook it. They
can get over the line, right way, we can move
past this. Keep listening to the MSNBC trying to rehab Michael
coh into the world and.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
At the courthouse again. Yesterday we talked about that podcast
moment in just a second, but let's go back to
because it was a little confusing, maybe as you listened
through it. What was Todd Blanche What was the Trump
defense team getting at with that text and phone call
between Michael Cohen and the bodyguard Keith Schiller.
Speaker 8 (08:36):
Well, let's talk about there was a narrow implication and
then a much broader one, Wally that they were trying
to draw. The first thing they were trying to say
is that Cohen's testimony about the phone call on October
twenty fourth between him and Keith Schiller, which he testified
was really a call to Trump about the Stormy Daniel's settlement,
wasn't true. They presented him with text messages and phone
(08:57):
call records that hadn't been part of his direct examination.
And the insinuation was you manufacture this when you said
you talked to Keith Shiller in order to talk to
Donald Trump about finalizing the Stormy Daniels settlement. That didn't
really happen, did it. You had a minute and thirty long, minute,
thirty second long phone call with him, and juxtaposed with
these texts about the fourteen year old who was prank
(09:17):
calling you at the time, it's pretty clear that you
called Keith Shiller to complain about that to get secret
service involved to get security involved in these harassing phone calls.
It had nothing to do with Stormy Daniels. That may
or may not be true. It is also true that
two days later, on the twenty six, there is indisputably
calls between Michael Cohen and Donald Trump. And I expect
(09:39):
on redirect that we'll hear a lot from the prosecution
about that. That Michael Cohen certainly notified Donald Trump and
spoke with him for some longer period of time as
he was finalizing it. But the broader implication that Todd
Blanche was trying to draw is, if you can't trust
Michael Cohen about this phone call, can you really trust
any of his testimony about the conversations that he had
with Donald Trump at the time? After all, this was
(10:01):
nearly eight years ago. And isn't it really the case
that Michael Cohen's recollection is not organic, but is rather
the construction of multiple prep sessions upon prep sessions with
prosecutors from the Manhattan DIA's office who have constructed a
memory in Michael Cohen that didn't organically exist about a
conversation that never happened, and others as well.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
So he lied, he lied right there in this court case,
not eight years ago. He took a phone call and
a phone call record and then said that a big,
long conversation took place about Stormy down on some paying
her off. That was a one minute and thirty second
phone call with text messages that the defense never shared
(10:45):
with the court that were clearly about a harassing phone
call and wanting to get the Secret Service involved somebody
that was harassing them and that's why the phone call
even took place, and said I need to talk to
you about this, and he's like, oh crap, I lied,
I made it all up. Oh wait, I just took
a phone call and said something else was talked about.
(11:05):
But the text message show that the phone call happened
for one reason because of a different subject.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Sann.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
By the way, they're now hedging their bets having to
admit that this isn't going well. Sann's Anderson Cooper said
it this way about what happened to Michael Cohen and
the cross examination by Trump's legal team.
Speaker 9 (11:31):
It was an extraordinary cross examination by Todd Blanche and
you know Michael Cohen's throughout the day. Michael Cohen went
cornered and when he found himself in a corner. He
does have a pattern of suddenly not understanding the question
that being asked. It seemingly kind of I mean, one
could say buying time to try to figure out what
(11:52):
how he wants to answer, but he definitely suddenly starts to,
you know, have a Todd blanche repeat questions and said,
I quite understand what you mean.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
I'm confused by the question.
Speaker 9 (12:04):
But this time Michael Cohen was was cornered in what
appeared to be a lie. I think too many in
the room and had to adjust suddenly his memory that
he had just testified to on Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
I mean, you can hear it.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
They're like, okay, we we gotta just kind of admit
things aren't good, right. Trump's attorney cornered Michael Cohen what
appeared to be a lie. So so so now they're
saying what everybody else was watching in the court, this
was a lie. It was a lie, and it happened
(12:47):
to the jury, and it was a lie that it
just was gonna happen. There's also Trump lawyer's cross examining
Michael Cohen, and and this is another thing that they
said on CNN.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Listen, we knew Caitlin Collins that they were going to
be aggressive against Michael Cohen, and it seems that mister
Blanche had a few tricks up his sleeve things we
did not anticipate. We anticipated that he was going to
ask Michael Cohen about a number of things that he
had said under oath that he had since admitted were
not true, about contradictions he had made in terms of
(13:23):
telling one judge that he was pleading guilty to a
crime because he's guilty of it, telling another judge that
he was never guilty of that crime, then trying to
get permission from another judge to have unsupervised release. But
now we are learning that he had even more than
we knew. I want to bring in former Trump White
House communications director Alissa Farrah Griffin. Alissa, So, Michael Cohen
(13:44):
says he never sought a job at the White House.
The prosecutors, I mean, Michael Cohen said he never sought
a job at the White House. Ryan Lanza here, who
worked on the twenty sixteen campaign, says that's not true.
He recalls Michael Cohen one to be White House counsel.
We have some journalists on our panel here saying that's
not true. They were called Michael Cohen saying he was
(14:06):
going to join the White House. He was very excited
to do so, according to Blanche. By the way, Cohen,
this is about the harassing calls. Cohen said the person
they would have to explain to the Secret Service. The
person replied, I'm fourteen, Please don't do this. This is
when Michael Cohen was getting a harassing phone calls. There
is a block feature on phones, by the way, if
you're getting harassing phone calls in any case, Alizafir Griffin,
(14:31):
tell me what.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Do you think?
Speaker 4 (14:35):
So listen. I was working for a number of Republican
lawmakers at that time, several of whom would go into
the administration, including mcmulvaney as omb Director. And it was
widely known and believed. Now, Michael Cohen never told me firsthand,
I'm going into the White House. I want to, but
it was widely discussed that he was angling for attorney
general or to be a White House counsel's. I mean,
there's dozens and dozens of people around Washington who could
(14:57):
cooperate that. My jaw hit the floor when I hurt him.
That and is a practical matter which is probably extraneous
to this discussion, but I'll share anyway, he likely wouldn't
have qualified for a job in the West Wing. You
have to be able to get a top secret security clearance.
They would have gone through his finances. Frankly, this home
equity line probably would have shown up. The payment that
he got back likely would have shown up on a
(15:18):
financial disclosure. But yeah, that really struck me. And to
be honest, I do not think this is going the
way the prosecution had hoped.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
So I love the way you think. Yeah, this would
have shown up. Of course, it would have shown up
when you go through the background check, it would have
shown up.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
This is a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
Here MSNBC one of their hosts, right, Ari Melbert, saying
this about the case. He's one of their hosts. He
was like, I'm outside the courtroom. I gotta be honest
with you.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Listen.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
I think the punches are building cumulatively. I think Tuesday
there were bruises and today there's blood. To extend the metaphor,
they're not done. This is a back and forth process.
Speaker 8 (16:01):
I was listening to.
Speaker 10 (16:01):
Your reporting, following along, like everyone, I'm going back in
the court room next. I was just speaking to our
Colleaguelaurence o'donald, who spoke to MSNBC today as well. I
think the collective view is these are moments the jury
will remember and they are instilling or adding possible doubts
about Michael Cohen's long term credibility, as I think everyone
knows by new has followed the trial. The question is
and has he changed his mind and retracted things? Both
(16:23):
sides agree on that that's not in doubt. The question
is does this guy still lie? And if he does
still lie about anything, little, medium or large, can you
trust him? And the standard is not okay, do we
have to be convinced that he lies about everything? The
standard for the jury and why Blanche is making some progress, is,
(16:44):
by the end of this, does the jury have reasonable
doubt about Cohen telling the truth on elements of the crime.
The other stuff won't ultimately matter when they deliberate it
just a cruise. But what we saw in that kind
of dramatic back and forth that it's been described today, well,
but you did lie and have you and why do
you sound like this? And a podcast where you might
sound allegedly unhinged. All of that accruise to whether jurors
(17:06):
go back and say I doubt whether he's telling the
truth about an element of the crime, for example, Trump's
criminal intent back in sixteen. So I think they are
landing blows Andrea.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
That's MSNBC there.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
And the reason why they're saying this, and the reason
why they're doing this is they're trying to get out
of the fact that they're the ones that pushed this
case and said Donald Trump's going to be found guilty. Now, look,
Donald Trump could still be found guilty. I want to
be clear about that, because you're in a courtroom in
a place, Okay, you're in a courtroom in a place
(17:44):
where what ninety percent of the people voted against Donald J.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Okay, so that they could still do this. But you
hope that there's at least one juror out there that
luks and says I can't trust Michael Cohen. How could
I trust Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen lied to our face.
He lied about a phone call, He lied about not
trying to get a job at the White House, which
(18:10):
everyone knew he was trying to get at the White House.
Michael Cohen was was the reason why we've been told
he paid Stormy Daniels out of his own pocket. Was
he was basically using it, almost as if it was
like a shoe in for the White House job. In Blackmail,
it was like, Hey, I took out a heelock loan
that my wife didn't even know about because I know
(18:30):
she wouldn't let me do this. I paid this myself,
mister President, because I didn't want it to be embarrassing
to you, and so I took all this risk for you. Man,
I need a job in the White House. I want
to be the Attorney General, which tells you how delusional
he is. I said, it's on Fox this week. I said,
Michael Cohen wasn't on the A list, he wasn't on
the B list. He went on the C list. He
would on the WTF list. Okay, Michael Cohen was never
(18:54):
going to be the Attorney General. Michael Cohen was never
going to be White House counsel either. Like that was
never ever ever going to happen. Michael Cohen was never
getting those jobs. And it shows you how delusional he
is that he thought he could become the Attorney General
of the United States of America when he's a guy
(19:16):
that was hoping to get the job.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Only because.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
He paid out of his own pocket Stormy Daniels some
cash so he could use it as leverage, or you
could argue at this point blackmail to then try to
force Trump to give him the job that he desperately
wanted so he would be important, right, Because really, that's
what this is all about. He wanted to be important.
(19:43):
He wanted to be really, really really important. He wanted
to be the man. He wanted to make sure that
he was the man.
Speaker 10 (19:54):
Right.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
He wanted to make.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Sure that when people looked at Michael Cohen, he was
a guy in the White House that made it. He
didn't want to get left behind, and so he probably thought, Hey,
paying Stormy Daniels some cash, pulling out a heelock loan,
hiding it from my wife, this is money well spent,
because I'm gonna get paid back when he gets to
the White House.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
He's gonna owe me one.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Now that the jury's got all of this, they've got
a lie that they know was told to them during
the trial. They've got other lies that have now been
clearly exposed. He told in the past, and then he's
lied at the trial about his lies in the past.
(20:40):
So it's like three different ways of lying that he's
all been caught to the point where MSNBC says, hey,
he was bruised yesterday, now he's bleeding today. I want
to get by the way, and I'm going to keep
covering everything going on with a Trump trial. Make sure
you listen to the podcasts all week. I'm going to
be doing the podcast every day as all, but we're
(21:00):
going to be really focusing a lot on the Trump
trial and what happens this week.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
So download it, listen to it.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
Ben Ferguson podcasts every every day, and I'm going to
keep you updated on what's happening in this trial. But
there's also what I mentioned earlier that I want to
get to and that deals with what's also going on now,
specifically with Israel. President Biden now is continuing to show
how much he is working not with Israel, not for Israel,
(21:32):
but against Israel. And the reason why he's working against
Israel is because he's had to sell sell his soul
to the terrorists, to the devil, to Hamas to try
to get the thirty five and younger crowd of the
Democratic Party, which are socialists, Marxists.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
And communists on his side, on his team.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
That's what this really boils down to the Democratic Party,
and the polling numbers are showing now overwhelmingly that Joe
Biden is in real trouble with younger voters and specifically
younger voters that believe that the president should not be
supporting and or advocating for Israel. They hate Israel, they
(22:17):
hate the Jews, and they want to push the Jews
into the sea is how they describe it. From the
river the sea. They want to exterminate all the Jews.
It's no different than the Hitler mentality. Now, it's all,
I want to be clear, a campaign tactic for him
to avoid losing the support of the anti Israel wing
of the Democratic Party, the socialist, communists and Marxist as
I've said and I will continue to say over again
(22:38):
over again, because I do believe that the Democratic Party
is in fact dead. Okay, I completely believe that the
Democratic Party is dead. They are now Marxists and socialists
and communists who are mascer rating as Democrats. AMA's supporters,
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by the way, are screaming about palies in in casualties
for example, and there this is happening on college campuses
and at college graduations. It's important to remember that the
casualty numbers that we are getting are coming directly from
the terrorist organization Hamas. And even though we're getting these
numbers from Hamas, the Biden administration is treating these casualty
(23:22):
numbers as if they are fact. Now, this is the
same organization, by the way, who that are giving us
these casual casualty numbers. That the same exact people who
also told you that Israel bomb a hospital in Gaza,
which didn't happen. In fact, it was a rocket, a
misfired rocket from the terrorists Hamas that landed in the
(23:44):
parking lot. And they also said I think there was
what was it, five hundred casualties or fifty, I can't remember.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
It was a significant number of casualties.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
And the reporters all ran with us, every major news
organization ran with it, and then they had to retract
it or act like, go, oh wait, we had bad information.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
So they lied.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
They basically bombed their own hospital parking lot and then
said there was hundreds of casualties that were happened by Israel,
And they said that Israel bombed the parking lot, and
then there was like very clear evidence that no, Israel
didn't bomb a hospital and there was zero casualties and
that it was their own rocket that did it. And
then what happened, Oh, the media just moved on right away.
(24:23):
So to be clear, the same people that are giving
the casually numbers to the world, the same people that
lied to you about that bombing. And what did the
White House say about this week when they were asked like, Hey,
these these casually numbers are really high that are coming
out of Amah, you know, of Gaza. The problem is
the numbers are coming from the terrorists. Do you guys
trust these numbers and listen to what Listen carefully what
(24:45):
Kirby said at the White House.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
I have a question about the death tool of Gaza.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Does President by neck confidence and the casualty numbers coming
out of Gaza.
Speaker 11 (24:54):
The President watches this very very closely, and you've heard
him talk about the more than thirty thousand people have
been killed, and he said the majority of women and children.
He's also said that's unacceptable. And as we've maintained time
and time again, the right number of civilian casualties ought
to be zero. But in terms of you know what
(25:17):
specific number we're quoting or citing on any given day.
I mean, we're doing the best we can, working with
the Israelis to ascertain the scope of the civilian suffering.
But it's obviously a mess.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's this confidence in the numbers come out of Gaza
increased since late October, and he said he had no
confidence in the numbers.
Speaker 11 (25:32):
If you've heard the President talked about the numbers and
talk about the concern. And the most important thing, aside
from obviously how tragic that is, is what we're doing
to alleviate and help improve conditions in Gaza, including through
this temporary here today.
Speaker 1 (25:48):
Again, this is a guy Kirby at the White House
that's sitting there going, yes, we do trust the numbers
coming from the terraces. The same terrorists that lie about
everything and lied about a hospital being bombed by Israel
and lied about casualties connected to the bombing of a
hospital which never happened, and they lie about the number
of casualis to make Israel look bad and to get
(26:10):
the pressure on the rest of the world to tell
Israel that they're going too far and they're killing too
many civilians. And the White House is sitting there given
an opportunity to do the right things.
Speaker 9 (26:21):
Day.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
Of course, we don't trust these numbers. We can't trust
these numbers.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Look, we don't want anyone to die, but we're not
going to sit here and believe the terrorist numbers.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
Like, we would never do that. That would have been
a normal answer. That's not what they did. You won't
know why.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Because they're completely beholden to the radicals and the terrorists
in the Democratic Party, and so they can't tell you
the truth here, Like it's not acceptable. It's not something
that they're allowed to do. They cannot tell you that. Look,
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of course, we don't trust the terrorists, right, Like, of
course we don't try us to terrorists. They're like, no, no, no,
we trust the numbers. No, no, we have no problem
with the numbers. No, no, we think the numbers are fine.
Like we're all in on these numbers. These numbers are good, right, Like,
these numbers are totally We're totally like, these numbers are legit.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
We have no issue with the numbers.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Let me go back to another point here, all right
deals with Kirby as well. Kirby has asked another question here,
and this is actually.
Speaker 2 (27:30):
A really simple question.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
Are you guys with holding weapons deliveries from Israel, because
that's what we're being told, and Israel desperately needs these
weapons to protect and defend themselves and go after the
actual terrorists. In fact, the weapons now that we are
withholding from Israel are the weapons that are the precision
guided bombs that make sure that the loss of life
(27:55):
and innocent people are more than likely never killed because
these precision guided bombs are so vitally important to just
hitting the terraces.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
And so those precision guided.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Bombs that you could, you could argue the safest bombs
that Israel can use to take out the terrace and
not kill civilians are now officially being withheld.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
You heard that, right, are being withheld from Israel.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
And the White House is asked about, like, are you
guys withholding these bombs from Israel or ally and listen
to the way they lie the American people's not a withholding.
Speaker 11 (28:29):
There's a pause put in place on a shipment of
two thousand pound bombs and that pause is still in place.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Huh so, so it's a pause on these bombs. He's like, no, no,
it's not a pause.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
We're just withholding the bombs that's all we're doing here.
This is just this is just us holding. We're not
We're not withholding. We're just hitting a pause here, it's
a pause. This is a lie, this is this is semantics,
and they're trying to have it both ways. Hey, we're
not gonna give Israel what they need, but we're gonna
withhold what they what they desperately need, and somehow this
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will work out.
Speaker 2 (29:07):
So then you look at Joe Biden. Is Joe Biden
taking his hand fully off of Israel?
Speaker 1 (29:16):
The answer, yes, Joe Biden is one hundred percent now
working basically for.
Speaker 2 (29:24):
Hamas and the terrorist organization.
Speaker 1 (29:27):
Joe Biden was at a commencement ceremony and Joe Biden
was talking about Israel and talking about the Palestinians or Hamas. However,
however the hell you want to put it, and what
Joe Biden said was I am in favor now of
a two state solution. The only way we're gonna get
this is if there is a two state solution.
Speaker 2 (29:49):
What does that mean in translation? Take exactly what it means.
Speaker 1 (29:56):
What it means in translation is Israel, You're gonna have
to live with the terrorists, and you better pay attention
and live with a terrorists, because I'm in favor of
a two state solution, which would include the terrorists, I
would assume being in charge.
Speaker 2 (30:12):
Right, Like, the terrorists are clearly in charge. Now. The
President of the United.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
States of America is up there and saying, Okay, I'm
all in for the terrorists. I'm defending the terrorists. What
else do you want from me, you guys in this audience, right, like,
I'm all in for the terrorists. Here he's at Morause
College and he's talking about I'm in favor of a
two stay solution. We must have a two stat solution.
And I'm withholding these bombs. But just a pause, is right?
(30:39):
The White House says, are you kidding me? Morehouse College graduates,
by the way, they turn their backs on crooked Joe Biden,
which was hysterical to me. This is a guy that
just sits there at Morause College and straight aupplies to you.
He lies over and over again and throws Israel under
the bus in the process of lying to.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
You over and over and over again.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
They didn't even want him, by the way, at Morehouse College, right,
they didn't want him there. In fact that the audio
from CNN talks about how the president I s it's
America who goes to Morehouse, who's trying to get back voters.
Listen to what they said about him right now and
how bad is among the back vote.
Speaker 12 (31:18):
A new Fox News poll shows just how much President
Biden support among black voters has fallen since the last election.
Take a look at this. In twenty twenty, he enjoyed
a dominant seventy five point margin, but now that margin
has dropped to just forty nine points. What are you
hearing from voters out there about why this is and
what is the Biden team's plan to try to turn
(31:41):
these numbers around?
Speaker 13 (31:42):
You know, well, if I spoke to black voters earlier
this year for some reporting, and their concerns are primarily economic.
It's a deep frustration with stagnant wages. It's anxiety about
being able to afford a home. They feel as though
they keep voting for Democrats and they're live, aren't getting
any materially bitter.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
A new Fox News polish, I mean, did you hear that?
Did you hear what he just said? The black vote
is running away from Joe Biden on purpose. So look,
Joe Biden can go out there to morehouse and he
can try to, you know, get all the support he wants.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
They turn their back on him. They don't They don't
trust him.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Israel doesn't trust him. The terrorists like him, the extremists
don't like him enough. This guy is foundering with every
core group he needs right now because he's trying to
play both sides of every single issue, and it's backfiring.
Sometimes you just have to stand up to the evil
ones in the world. And yet he's afraid about losing
(32:39):
a reelection, so he's saying, Okay, Hamas, I'll work with
you now, I'll be on your team and I'll go
after Israel instead.
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That's a problem.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
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