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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I hope you had a fabulous Fourth of July with
you and your family celebrating America's birthday. And the White House,
I don't know how much celebrating they were doing because
they've got some serious problems. Now they have now been
busted lying to you about the president's medical attention. In fact,
he did see a doctor after the debate. That is
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what we've been told after the White House lie. How
do we know this because Biden told the governors who
came and met with him that, in fact, he did
receive a medical check up. This now coming from Politico.
Biden tells governors this is their actual headline. He got
a medical a checkup. Two governors also expressed concerns over
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whether the president could still carry their blue leaning state.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So this is all about saving themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
President Joe Biden on Wednesday evening told more than twenty
Democratic governors in a private meeting that he underwent a
medical checkup after last week's debate and it's fine that,
According to three people with knowledge of the discussion, During
an hour long meeting prompted by intensifying concerns about his
health and political viability, one governor asked Biden by his
physical condition. The President mentioned having had a check up
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in recent days and serted that he remains in good health,
knocking on wood for effect. According to two people that
were there, yes, so that happened now. That statement, in
a hastily arranged White House meeting that saw nearly a
dozen governors travel to DC while others participated virtually, came
just hours after the White House Press Secretary Jean Pierre
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sidestep direct questions from reporters who asked if he had
been examined since the debate, saying this, the President has
regular annual physicals, and we released it through a report,
a thorough report. We're going to continue to do that. Again,
that's not the question that was asked. Biden's remarks, according
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to a person familiar with the president's schedule, was in
reference to a short check up by a White House
physician days following the debate due to quote, lingering symptoms
from his cold. The exam, that person at it was
brief and did not include any major tests. Now, Democrats
are coming forward now and they are saying it is
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time for him to step down.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Again.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
They're saying this Democratic representative Huffman said, quote we should
announce our presidential ticket after the Republican convention so we
know what we're running against, implying that Joe Biden is
absolutely not going to be their pick. CNN also says
this that Biden told Democratic governors he needs more sleep
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and to stop scheduling events after eight o'clock at night.
So again the President being a complainer in chief when
meeting with the governors.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We have new details coming in this afternoon on President
Biden's ongoing fight for his political future. Sources tell CNN
and the President told Democratic governors during yesterday's White House
meeting that he needs more sleep and he plans to
stop scheduling events after eight pm. That meeting was an
attempt to reassure Democratic leaders that he could win reelection
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and serve out another term. His campaign faces a critical
test in the next forty eight hours Tomorrow, President Biden
is that hit the campaign tr and then we'll see
him in his first televised interview since the debate today.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now, this first interview that he's going to do has
now been changed to a prime time event with George
Stepanopolis at eight o'clock Eastern on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It is not going to be live. What does that mean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It means that they can protect the president with editing. Now,
let's talk about the money drawing up for the president
as well. Donald Trump's campaign raised three hundred and thirty
one million in this year's second quarter, and it smashes
what Biden has brought in and the money apparently is
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completely drying up. Barbara Boxer slamming Democrats by the way,
calling for Biden to stepped down. They're on TV for
their five minutes of fame as it's clear that a
civil war has broken out within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Art Senator, you said, give Biden two weeks to fix
his ailing campaign. It has now been a full week
since the debate. We haven't even seen a TV interview
or press conference yet. That's not going to come until
tomorrow and next week, respectively. Is he moving too slow
on his reset?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No, I meant two weeks from now. The article you're
quoting was run today two weeks. I agree with Debbie Dingle.
I disagree with these members who are coming on TV
for their five minutes of fame and pushing out a
man who has been one of the greatest presidents since
FDR and by the way I say, because there are
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two schools of thought. My school of thought is show
us the comeback. You've done it your whole life, mister president.
You've come back from personal losses, you've come from political losses.
And here's the thing about these members and folks who
are coming on your station and a lot of your
experts pushing this man out right now before he has
a chance.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Is this.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
We know that Donald Trump is the truth thread here.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
We know because he.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Talked thirty lies in ninety minutes. That's what he put
out there, thirty lies. He refused to accept the results
of the election. He's already going after Liz Cheney and
saying she's guilty of treason, which, by the way, the
penalty for that is murder.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
It goes on and on.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He also said at the debate that Democrats would kill
babies after they're born. And everybody's focused on, you know,
Joe Biden. And last point, how many times did we
some Trump fall asleep at his own criminal trial where
he was found guilty of four counts and also liable
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for sexual assault in another courtroom against Egen Carroll. So
please spare me. You're five minutes of fame. Give this
man a chance to pick himself up. He's done it
so many times.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Joe Woodie.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now, I love this, by the way, because that's Barbara Boxer, right,
She's dug in for him. She's one of the old guards.
She's the one that's saying this. But Debbie Dingle said,
and I'm going to play this for you a little
bit later with my conversation I'm going to have with
Center Cruz about this. She said, Biden is a is
in a bubble wrap interview with Stepanopholis, and one interview
quote won't fix this. David Jolly said, the one person
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Trump doesn't want to run against this Gavin Newsom. As
they're already moving on to who's going to replace him.
Over at MSNBC. They're acting like Joe Biden is gone.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
On the other side of this equation, of course, is
the Trump campaign.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
What scenarios do you think that they are preparing for
right now?
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I look, they hope Joe Biden stays in because they
see him as weak, and then they want to run
against Kamala Harrer. But I think that they should be
very careful here because I do think there's an opportunity
for Joe Biden and the Democrats to have a very
unifying week. First of all, it's inevitable something has to break,
the fever has to break.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So either Joe.
Speaker 9 (07:13):
Biden coalesces all the Democrats this week and says we're
going forward as a unified Democratic party and you are
sticking with me, or he makes another decision but also
creates a very unifying moment for national Democrats and frankly
for the nation as well, about a new chapter of
democratic leadership. Hollywood could write this script ally for the
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next week, but look, who do they want to run
against it?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Look?
Speaker 9 (07:37):
I would also say Joe Biden one tool he hasn't used,
the greatest tool he has is an address to the nation,
because this is not just a political question. We talk
about it as a political question for November, but this
is a question for right now. And if Joe Biden
can reassure the nation it begins to answer the questions
about November, they could decide whether or not to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, they are all over the place now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I believe that there's one other aspect of this that
must be brought up, and that's this. I believe we're
witnessing right now, one of the biggest political cover ups
in history of this country. That all these people around
the president have been covering for an incapacitated president of
the United States of America. This is, by the way,
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why we have the twenty fifth Amendment. This is why
you have a cabinet. Okay, And I'm sorry. It's a
moment in history that I think we're going to look
back on and we're going to realize that that everyone
around the president was covering for him, was lying for him,
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was protecting him, and insulating him and bubble wrapping him.
Is that, one Democrat said a moment ago, and so
I look at this. This is a moment that the
Democratic Party created. Now, even NBC's Allen said this on
TV about the moment we're in now.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Listen, Jonathan starting with you on this. Now that we're
seeing he's getting back on the road, he is going
to be in Wisconsin, business as usual. Certainly this week
has not been business as usual.
Speaker 11 (09:14):
Yeah, this has been the worst week in a presidential
campaign that I can remember in my lifetime. Not only
did he have the debate to bacle, but the effort
to clean it up has been miserable. At best you
hear the arguments for why he didn't do well at
the debate, that he had a cold, that he was
traveling in Europe, he'd been back in the United States
for twelve days. I don't think any American thinks that
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they want a president that is home from twelve for
twelve days from foreign trip and still not quite himself
from the jet lag. So the White House messaging has
been difficult. In the deed yesterday, as you pointed out,
at one moment, Korean John Pierre said he hadn't been
checked out for it by a doctor, than Biden said
he had been checked out by a doctor. One of
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those things is true, one of them is not. Right now,
his White House has a credibility problem. He has a
credibility problem, and I need to make sure that whatever
they're saying is actually true and transparent. He is going
to try over the course of the next several days
to show a different version of himself than people have
been seeing over the last week, but he is in
making a mistake. This is a crisis moment for the
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president and his party.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
They are ready to be done with him, They're ready
to move on to Kamala. I think she's probably the
front runner right now, even though the polls say she
could still be beat. The only person the polling that
shows they would take a lead against Donald Trump would
be a name that I've said here several times, Michelle Obama.
I want to get into my conversation about what is
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next when it comes to Biden campaign and what Democrats
are doing. And we're going to break all this down
with Senator Ted Cruz. We were doing our podcast Verdict.
Take a listen. I mentioned a moment ago that this
White House is floundering on a level I didn't even
know was imaginable in their re responds to this debate.
And every time you think they can't get any worse,
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they then do something that is even more incompetent. And
the response I want to play for you center this.
This is the White House Press secretary floating the idea
that the reason why Joe Biden had a bad night
the other night is that he was suffering from jet
lag almost two weeks, fourteen days after traveling. Here is
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the White House Press secretary trying to sell this to
the American people.
Speaker 12 (11:29):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 13 (11:31):
There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I
think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the
effects of that nearly two weeks later. So can you
articulate a little bit about like, do you guys usually
have accommodations for him after he does a trip that
he's going to have jet lag for that long a
period of time.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
So can you can you when you say two weeks later,
what do you mean the debate?
Speaker 13 (11:53):
He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen
days before the debate, So his explanation for a quar
debate for form jetlag.
Speaker 12 (12:01):
So what I want to say is it's the jet lag.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
And also the cold.
Speaker 12 (12:06):
Right. It is the two things, and that occurred, and
you all heard it in his voice when he did
the debate, right, And it is not even something that
we shared ahead of time.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You heard it in his voice and we confirmed it.
Speaker 12 (12:20):
And I think that's important to note as well, like
it is the jet lag and the cold. But I
want to be really I want to be really clear here.
This is not an excuse, right, this is not an excuse.
You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're
giving it an explanation.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
It is not an excuse.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
I don't want that to be the leading piece of
this asked for the only reason we're sharing this because
it was asked of me here and the President certainly
wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he
did yesterday. We want to We understand that it wasn't
his best night.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
It wasn't a great debate.
Speaker 12 (12:53):
We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw, what
the American people saw, and what you all saw, and
so we wanted to give an explanation. So I don't
want to get into this or are you giving this
excuse that excuse, We're giving.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
You what our explanation was.
Speaker 12 (13:09):
We want to continue to make sure that we do
everything that we can to deliver for the American people.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
That's what we're going to continue to.
Speaker 14 (13:17):
Also want it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, Senator, you hear this. It's no excuse.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We're just you ask So we're just telling you, fourteen
days after international travel, the president was suffering from jetwag.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So there's the story.
Speaker 12 (13:30):
You know.
Speaker 15 (13:30):
I got to say every time I hear Kaarin John Pierre,
I think she is the opposite of William Jefferson Clinton.
William Jefferson Clinton, you'll recall was referred to as an
unusually good liar, that he could lie and it was believable,
and he'd bite his lip and he'd you know, pointed,
push his thumb together, and you just you believed he
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felt your pain. He could lie better than anyone. I
think Karee John Pierre is an unusually bad liar. Like
when she does it, it's laughably false. One of the
things if you're going to be in a job as
a media hack and trying to spin people, typically you
learn not to tell just brazen lies that are absurd.
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When Kareem John Pierre stood in the White House press
briefing room and said, you know, people are not just
coming across the border. It's not happening. They're not walking
across the border. It doesn't happen. That was such a
wild lie. Literally every reporter could pull up on their
phone videos of it happening while she was talking. That's
a bad lie here. This jetlag thing is a really
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bad lie. Like anyone who's actually flown internationally. Look, jetlag
is a si thing. It's a reasonable thing. You feel
it a day maybe two when you fly from one
place to the other. You know, he was in Europe.
He was there for Normandy. I was there for Normandy.
I got to say the idea that I'd be complaining
now you know, I've still got jetlag because several weeks
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ago I was in Europe. That's just obviously stupid. And
they don't want the explanation to be the explanation that
every person with eyeballs and common sense saw, which is
this is an old man who's suffering from dementia. That's
the answer. And so well, you know he wasn't a
plane a few weeks earlier. Let's call it jetlag. Yeah, yeah,
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maybe people out there are dumb enough to believe that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, and they went on TV like a full court
press to try to sell this at the White House.
This was another one of their interviews outside of Jean Pierre,
where they're like, all right, guys, everybody got on TV
and sell that the President is jet lagged.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Apparently, the President apologized to everyone in the room saying,
this is not an excuse, but it is an explanation,
and he blamed the extensive foreign travel that he did
and the lead up to the CNN debate for his
poor performance. Just a reminder for everyone, he did go
to France for the D Day anniversary, and then he
turned right back around and went to Italy for the
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G seven summit, and he told the room, I didn't
listen to my staff, so the suggestion there being his
staff did not think this was a good idea. And
then he apparently said, I almost fell asleep on stage.
I just want to unpack this new explanation for a second,
as the explanation for why his debate performance was so bad.
I find it a little bit puzzling, and frankly, I'm
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not sure that a lot of people are going to
find this reassuring. If anything, some folks might hear this
and be even more concerned. Yes, there were two foreign
trips in the lead up to the June twenty seventh
CNN debate, but he returned from Italy on June fifteenth.
The debate again was on June twenty seven, so we're
talking about roughly twelve days in between when he was
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back in the States. And remember a part of those
twelve days, about a full week, he actually spent with
his advisors at Camp David for the sole purpose of
really focusing on debate preps. So why is the president
falling asleep on the debate stage at the hours of
nine pm.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
To ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I can't believe by the way that CNN saying that
they have all turned on him, like they have just
completely turned on him. With Mjlee, they're saying, I find
it a little bit puzzling that this guy's at Camp
David for a whole week and you've done debate prep.
So let's pull back the curtain on that. When you've
done your most vigorous debate prep, Senator, and I've been
blessed to be in several different debate preps for different
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major races, it doesn't last twelve hours a day now,
the ones I've done certainly not for seven days straight.
It's usually two or three hours of intense debate prep
and then you take a legit break.
Speaker 12 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (17:27):
Look, and I've never done a week of debate prep.
Typically what I do debate prep, it is one to
two days. Is what's involved.
Speaker 12 (17:34):
You know.
Speaker 15 (17:34):
The irony of the of their jet lag explanation is
the fact that we know he spent a week at
Camp David where the only thing on the plate was
getting ready for debate prep, and I am certain he
slept a lot of hours that week and listen he should.
One of the things I do for debate prep. You know,
you know there's studies that have been done. This is
something when I was arguing cases at the Supreme Court,
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I looked at there were medical studies that are done
that show the more sleep you get, the faster your
brain thinks, the faster your neurons fire. Before a Supreme
Court argument, I used to the night before try to
get nine to ten hours sleep, which is a lot
more sleep. I typically get six to seven hours sleep
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a night before a Supreme Court argument, I would try
to get nine to ten hours sleep a night and
I'd do that both the night before the argument, and
I'd do that two nights before the argument the reason
two nights before the argument. Years ago in college, I
used to teach at Princeton Review the test prep class
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that helped students. I taught the SAT and I taught
the l SAT. And when I was teaching at Princeton Review,
we would teach teach students to do the same thing,
get a ton of sleep the night before your exam,
and get a ton of sleep two nights before your exam.
Because there's scientific studies that show the sleep you get
two nights before an event affects your brain speed. And
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what I found in Supreme Court arguments is that if
I had two nights of supercharging sleep, nine to ten
hours of sleep, two nights in a row, that when
I'd stand up there for the argument at the podium,
my brain was a half second faster, a half second
quicker to respond to a question, to think about a
line of argument, to anticipate where the other side was going,
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to anticipate where a justice was going. When I'd prepare
for political debates, I do the same thing. I try
to have two nights of nine to ten hours sleep
the two nights before, and it makes a real difference.
Your brain is fast and quick. Biden had an entire
week where he could sleep. He could have slept twelve
hours a day every day for a week. And so
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the idea that they're saying, well, yeah, but two weeks earlier,
he was on a plane, So it's jet lag. Nobody
who's ever flown an airplane believes that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
There's also this big interview that's about to take place,
and it's become actually even bigger since when you and
I mentioned it, there is George Stepanopolis and I think
we should remind people who he is. He is a
hardcore lefty that acts like he's now some sort of journalist,
even though he was best known for defending Bill Clinton
and giving Bill Clinton some of the best spin lines
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in history.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's the friendliest person.
Speaker 15 (20:14):
Look, he was basically Kareem John John Pierre for Bill Clinton. Yeah,
he was a press staffer. He was a comm staffer.
He was in the White House. He was on the
Clinton White House staff. I think his title is communications director,
So he wasn't actually the press secretary, but he was
the press flack. He was the person. He was the Jensaki.
He was the one who was in charge of communications
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for Bill Clinton for years. He was very close to
Bill Clinton, and then he jumped over. As many dem
communication hacks do, they leave that role and they jump
over and they become like Jensaki, they get their own show. Well,
George Stephanopoulos went from being the official spokesperson for the
Democratic president to being at abs ABC acting as effectively
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the official spokesperson for the Democrat press.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And he's the guy that's going to get this interview.
We now have word that this they've decided to change
this interview to a quote prime time special on Friday
night to save in essence. I think his presidency and
Democrats aren't even buying that. MSNBC and one of the
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hardcore lefties out there, Debbie Dingle, she said this on
MSNBC on July fourth.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
They've been after Joe Biden all week. So he's got
one thing to do, which is to get up and
go out to prove to people that he can do
the job. We'll do the job, and has the stamina.
Took too long to make some of the phone calls.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
He shut up.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I think he's in a bubble wrap. I'm inn of
the senior's staff, and I think he's starting to do
what he has to do.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
One interview tomorrow, he's not going.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
To fix this.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
One interview tomorrow is quote not going to fix this.
This is one of the most extreme lefties on MSNBC
saying that.
Speaker 15 (22:00):
Well, and listen. One of the most revealing things that
ABC interview is taped. It's not live. If they were
real journalists. You know what ABC should do. You know
what George Stephanopholis should insist on doing. The debate was live.
Let's have this interview be live. The American people need
to see how you answer real time, which means we ABC,
We're not going to edit out when you stare blankly
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out at the wall and don't know what I say.
We're not going to edit out when you stumble. The
fact that it is taped means that George Stefanopolis can
go in and say, okay, oh, this exchange looked really
bad for Joe Biden. Let's cut that out.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
Hmm.
Speaker 15 (22:35):
Okay, he's staring off at the ceiling and doesn't know
what's going on. Let's definitely not air that. And let's
find snippets where he seems kjin and let's piece them together. Now,
if George Stephanopolis was wearing his hat as Democrat Operative
putting together a TV campaign for Biden, that would be
a reasonable thing to do. But he's at least pretending
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to be a journalist. The SEA is pretending to be
an actual news organization, and so anyone who actually cares
about journalism or news should insist the thing be live.
Let the American people see how he acts in real time.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Let's take a step back from this, and I want
to ask you another question. You and I actually haven't
even talked about this yet so I'm I'm genuinely intrigued
to know what you think, and that is, are we
going to look back weeks, months, years from now, and
are we going to look at this moment in history
and say, was this the biggest political cover up in history?
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That we had an incapacitated president, that the American people
were sheltered from, that the White House was covering for
and lying for, that the media was covering for and
lying for. I go back to November, Okay, not that
long ago. White House pres seretory Jean Pierre said this
to the American people.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
I would put the President's DaMina Present's wisdom ability to
get this done on behalf of the American people against anyone,
anyone on any.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Day of the week.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mean that was that was November, Senator, And I
think this is one of the biggest.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Progress that she's a really bad witness.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, she is a really bad liar, But I mean
this is this is one of the biggest political cover
ups I've ever witnessed.
Speaker 15 (24:22):
You know, yes, and no, of course it's a cover up.
Of course everyone is complicit in. And of course the
Democrats all know and they're lying. Of Course, the media
all know and they're lying. But at the same time,
it's not a cover up anyone whose head is not
plunged into the sand. You knew before the debate last
week that Joe Biden was mentally incapacitated. You knew that
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it was obvious. Anyone who's ever had an elderly relative,
a loved one, dealing with dementia, dealing with Alzheimer's, You've
seen that distant look, that shuffle, that look of confusion.
We see that every week. It's obvious. Look, We've never
seen a president do what Joe Biden does, which is
not talked to anyone in the Senate. In three and
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a half years, I've had no conversations with Joe Biden.
He has had no conversations with virtually any Republican senator.
We sit around at lunch and talk about how weird
that is, because a major part of the job being
in the Senate is dealing with the president, working with
the president. You know, just over a month ago, I
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passed the FA Reauthorization Bill. That is a huge bill,
one hundred and ten billion dollars investment in infrastructure, in
safety for aviation, enhancing safety for the flying public, hiring
new air traffic controllers to keep people safe when they fly,
investing billions in airports, putting collision detection technology on runways
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to keep people safe, also expanding competition. Just Texas alone,
hundreds of thousands of jobs depend upon aviation. We have
made major airlines based in Texas. Millions of jobs depend
indirectly on aviation. It was a huge bipartisan victory. I
was the lead author along with Maria Cantwell. We passed it.
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We passed it on the floor of the Senate eighty
eight to Ford. Includes within it, finally, finally, finally, a
direct flight from San Antonio to Reagan Washington National Airport,
something San Antonio that entire community has been fighting for
for twenty years. That was a victory I wrote into law,
and we want it now. You know what would normally
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happen when you pass major bipartisan legislation.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm assuming you'd say the President might get in contact with.
Speaker 15 (26:39):
You, you'd have a signing ceremony. In a typical normal
functioning administration when there's big bipartisan legislation, the next step
is the White House contacts you and says we're going
to have a signing ceremony, the signing ceremony, you go,
both the Democrats and Republicans who are the authors of
the bill, go and the president and it signs the
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bill into law in the Oval office, and there are
people there'd be in this instance, you would have people
from the airlines there. You'd have people from airports there,
You'd have the pilots unions there, you'd have the flight
attendance unions there, you'd have everyone impacted by the bill
there in the Oval office. I've been to a lot
of signing ceremonies. It's pretty typical. You know what the
Biden White House said.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, I wouldn't even be surprised. They didn't even know
you guys were doing it.
Speaker 15 (27:25):
Oh no, no, they knew. They knew. And Biden signed the
bill when it came over. He signed it into law.
But there was no ceremony. And the reason there's no
ceremony they cannot have him interact with other people because
it is blazingly obvious this man is incapacitated. That has
been the way the administration is operated from day one.
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They don't do signing ceremonies like other administrations. They hide
him and so yes, it's a cover up. But at
another level, no, it's not really a cover up because
everybody knows the thing that is stuff cutting ben. On
the Democrat side of the aisle, nobody cares. I have
yet to speak to a single Democrat senator or a
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single Democrat House member who's expressed genuine concern that the
commander in chief does not know what type of day
it is, that the commander in chief can't find his
way out of a locked box. I haven't heard any
concern from a single Democrat that America is much less
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safe because our commander in chief is mister Magoo. He
is a confused individual with serious disabilities who is not
able to handle a difficult situation. Look when you see
the g eight leaders gather together and Joe Biden starts
wandering off and the Italian Prime Minister has to go
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and grab his hand and lead him back. That's not good.
It's not good for the American president to be treated
as the elderly uncle everyone needs to take care of
and cut his food for and make sure they're no
big pieces so that he can we can steer the
airplane into the mouth. That is horrible for America and
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frustratingly ben No Democrat cares. The only reason anyone's discussing
this now is suddenly on the debate, the American people
saw it, and the Democrats are afraid they might lose.
If they didn't think they were gonna lose, every Democrat
would say, stick with him forever, We're great, doesn't matter
if the president is competent or not.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
One Democrat that went on TV, I guess he's like
the sacrificial lamb is representative Democratic Representative Dan Goldman. He
said this about the president trying to reassure Americans he's
really fine, there's no cognitive decline.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
And the people who are with him every day have
indicated as well that it was an aberration, that it
is an anomaly, and if that is the case, then
we will see that, and we will see that over
the next week, and he will restore our faith and
confidence in his fitness.
Speaker 16 (30:04):
And then everything else between the two of them cuts
in favor of Joe Biden. So people are right to
have some concerns after that performance. And I don't think
there's any excuse that Joe Biden offered. I think he
was trying to explain how he had such a poor performance,
But he's accepted it, he's owned it, he's acknowledged it
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as we all have. And what we need to see
from him is that vibrant and whip smart president that
we have had for the last three and a half years.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And the people, I mean, you listen to him, and
then you go to the facts. Biden's post debate checkup
actually contradicts what the White House said. They have now
confirmed that, and President Biden confirmed And again I'm quoting
reports coming out of the White House to the Democratic governors.
Remember they had this nine to one to one, you know,
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all hands on deck meeting with Democratic governors to try
to reassure them that he had a medical checkup following
the president of debate, despite earlier statements from the White
House pres secretary on multiple occasions that he had not
received any medical exam since February.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We played some of that in the last show.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
The White House later clarified that Biden was seen by
a doctor for a brief quote brief checkup due to
the lingering symptoms from a cold, which did not include
any major tests. So even when they lie to you,
they still can't. They're now lying to either the governors
or the American people, or they're just lying about all
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Your thoughts.
Speaker 15 (31:33):
Yeah, look, the cold is nonsense, the jet lag is nonsense.
Everyone knows that the issue is that he's too old
and he's suffering from dementia. That that is blazingly true.
They're trying to distract from this. Look, I'll give you
a sense of how bad it is. Even the Praetorian Guard,
even the most zealous defenders of Joe Biden, the Democrats,
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and by that I mean the New York Times, even
there turning on her. On Wednesday of this week, The
New York Times wrote a story, the headline of which
is Biden tells allies he knows he has only days
to salvage candidacy. Here's what The New York Times wrote.
By the way, this is not an editorial, This is
a news story. President Joe Biden has told key allies
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that he knows the coming days are crucial and understands
that he may not be able to salvage his candidacy
if he cannot convince voters that he is up to
the job. After a disastrous debate performance last week. According
to two allies who have spoken with him, Biden has
emphasized that he is still deeply committed to fight for
his reelection, but understands that his viability as a candidate
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is on the line. The President sought to project confidence
Wednesday in a call with campaign staff, even as White
House officials were trying to calm nerves inside the ranks
of the Biden administration. Quote, no one's pushing me out,
Biden said in the call, I'm not leaving. Vice President
Kamala Harris was also on the line. Quote, we will
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not back down. We will follow our president's lead. She said.
We will fight and we will win. Rah rah rah. Still,
Biden allies said the President had privately acknowledged that his
next few appearances heading into the July fourth holiday weekend
must go well, particularly in an interview scheduled for Friday
with George Stephanopolos of ABC News and campaign stops in
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Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Quote, he knows that if he has
two more events like that, we're in a different place
by the end of the weekend, said one of the allies,
referring to Biden's halting and unfocused performance on the debate.
That person who talked to the President in the past
twenty four hours spoke on the condition of anonymity to
discuss a sensitive situation. The accounts of his conversations with
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allies are the first indication to become public that the
president is seriously considering whether he can recover after a
devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta last Thursday.
A new poll from The New York Times in Siena
College show the former president Donald Trump now leads Biden
forty nine to forty three percent among likely voters nationally,
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a three point swing towards the Republican from just a
week earlier before the debate. This is they're terrified. And
note they're terrified about one thing. They think Biden's going
to lose. If they thought a mentally incompetent person was
going to win, they'd be fine. But they're terrified that
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there are at least some people who say, gosh, maybe
the commander in chief should should be aware of what's
going on around it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
In the poll numbers that you just mentioned also connect
to some other polls that have come out, and that
is they're pulling every name against Donald Trump. There is
only one name right now that in the polling shows
that it could that they could quote beat Donald Trump.
That is the that you gave nine months ago that
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we've been talking about ever since. In Michelle Obama, there
have been pretty queer messages coming from her camp. She's
not interested. And then the next person that everyone now
seems to be thinking is probably the one that would
replace them is Kamala Harris. And that's just from the
money aspect of things. She's the one that can use
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the money they've raised. She's the one that's already set
up to just keep walking forward. The same team would
be there, the same campaign manager, all the staff is
around there, So she would be the quote easiest choice.
You look at this, it doesn't say she could win,
But is she the front runner or is it Michelle Obama?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Or who is it? In your opinion?
Speaker 15 (35:45):
Look, I still think it's Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is
the only candidate the Democrats could push Kamala aside, for
they know Kamala is a terrible candidate. They're really scared.
They don't want her at the top of the ticket.
But they're bean counters. The way their party is, whatever
your race, whatever your gender, whoever you are, that is
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the dominant feature about you. It matters more than anything else.
The people who talk about putting Gavin Newsom in and
pushing Kamala aside, the Democrat Party would would would spontaneously
explode if they pushed a black woman aside for a
rich white man. They're not going to do that. There
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is the number of people who can push Kamala aside
in the Democrat Party. It is a set of one,
and the only one is Michelle Obama. She too is
an African American woman. She could push Kamala aside. Look
the polling we've seen where there's a poll that came
out this week that showed Michelle Obama with a double
digit lead over Donald Trump. She would be a very
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very dangerous candidate if it's not Michelle Obama. If Michelle
says no, she might. I hope she says no. You know,
I want to speak directly to mill Hey, you're really rich.
You're enjoying the life of a movie star. Private jets
are fun, the Hamptons are fun. You're palide around with
people who are famous, with rock stars. You don't need
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to go to work. You don't need to bother yourself
with pushing a Marxist agenda to destroy America. Leave it
to others to destroy America. You and your family have
done enough to damage the world. Enjoy the life of
a gazillionaire. I don't know that my pitch is persuasive,
but I hope it is because it would be very
good if she decides not to run. If she does
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decide not to run, then I think the person that
replaces Biden probably is Kamala because I don't think anyone
else can. I think Kamala is a really weak candidate.
She is a very unpopular vice president. There's a reason
when she ran for president in twenty twenty she got
zero delegates. She couldn't even make it to Iowa and
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get any support. But if she becomes the nominee, they
probably probably plug someone in there as a VP to
try to balance it. It wouldn't surprise me to see
I could see Gavin Newsom as a VP to either
Kamala Harris or to Michelle Obama. I think Gavin Newsom
is very much on the VP train. I could see
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a Gretchen Witmer, the governor of Michigan, as a VP
to either one of them, as well both of those.
I think are real possibilities. But at the end of
the day, I think the only two nominees who have
a credible chance replacing Biden or Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris.
And if I were a Democrat, I'd be all in
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on Michelle because the polling shows she wins and Kamala loses.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Final two questions for you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
One, when do you think the media has to stop
this onslaught of attacks on the president because they're going
full court press is in another week and then they
got to dial it back in case he does continue
to be the nominee, they can't push him out. And
number two, how important is this is prime time taped
interview Friday night for Joe Biden's future?
Speaker 15 (39:08):
Well, I mean, let me start with number two. The
interview on Friday is very important. If he goes and
just craps the bed, that could be fatal. I think
ABC and Stephanopoulos are going to do everything they can
to prevent that from happening. I think they're going to
edit the heck out of the interview. They should run
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it live, and anyone who cares like ABC should be
embarrassed about itself that it's not running it live. Because
their editing will be designed to create a false impression,
to protect Joe Biden, to turn it into a campaign video.
If they're a real journalistic outlet. You know when I
do interviews, I do them live, and if I say
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something dumb, you know what, the camera catches it and
all the world can hear. And it's not ABC's job
to be doing the pr and damage control for the Democrats,
but that's what they're doing. I think the interview matters
a lot. I also think it's interesting you're seeing Democrats
publicly breaking ships. So Lloyd Doggett, very liberal Democrat from Austin, Texas,
(40:15):
became the first Democrat member of Congress to say the
president should step aside. Two others, Jared Golden and Maine
and Marie Gluosen camp Perez of Washington, both Democrats, both
said they believe Biden will lose in November. That's significant
that you're seeing elected Democrats coming out saying that. Another one,
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Seth Moulton, another Democrat from Massachusetts, raised real questions about
whether Biden can win. He said, quote, I deeply respect
President Biden and all the great things he's done for America,
but I have grave concerns about his ability to defeat
Donald Trump. Winning will require prosecuting the case of the
media in town halls and at pain stops all over
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the country. President Biden needs to demonstrate that he can
do that. The unfortunate reality is that the status quo
will likely deliver us President Trump. We're seeing that happening
more and more and more.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Now.
Speaker 15 (41:14):
Your first question was how long will the media continue
to attack? Listen on the debate night, I predicted if
this is gonna happen, it's gonna shake out in twenty
one days. So we're a week into it. I think
we have two more weeks ahead of us. We will
go into the Republican Convention in two weeks. I think
we'll know what happens by then. A final point in
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one that has not been discussed a great deal. I
think all of this drama impacts President Trump very significantly,
and in particular, it impacts his vice presidential choice. Trump
is in the middle of presumably picking who he wants
to be VP. Lots of names have been floated, there
are lots of short lists, lots of things discussing. Well,
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normally when you're picking a VP candidate, you know who
your opponent is you know what you're fighting against. In
this instance, it's a very difficult situation for Trump because
the kind of VP he might pick if he's running
against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could be a very
different VP than if he's running against Michelle Obama. I
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think right now the Trump team is feeling incredibly confident.
I think they think they're gonna win, They're gonna beat
Joe Biden. I think they're feeling on top of the world.
I can tell you if the news broke tomorrow that
Biden was not the nominee anymore and it was gonna
be Michelle Obama, the Trump team, if it were not
at a major emergency mode level of this is serious,
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then they'd be misreading the situation because Michelle Obama's the
Democrat nominee is incredibly dangerous and that could easily impact
the vice presidential nominee. So, for example, if it's Michelle Obama,
maybe Trump picks Tim Scott, deciding that he wants to
go fight and fight more aggressively for African American votes.
That's one possible consideration that maybe that's a little bit
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less of a consideration. If Joe Biden is at the
top of the ticket, so there are complicated, complicated chess
moves that are playing out right now because of the
uncertainty of who's going to be the nominee.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
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I hope you had a fabulous Fourth of July with
you and your family celebrating America's birthday. And the White House,
I don't know how much celebrating they were doing because
they've got some serious problems. Now they have now been
busted lying to you about the president's medical attention. In fact,
he did see a doctor after the debate. That is
(00:22):
what we've been told after the White House lie. How
do we know this because Biden told the governors who
came and met with him that, in fact, he did
receive a medical check up. This now coming from Politico.
Biden tells governors this is their actual headline. He got
a medical a checkup. Two governors also expressed concerns over
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whether the president could still carry their blue leaning state.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
So this is all about saving themselves.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
President Joe Biden on Wednesday evening told more than twenty
Democratic governors in a private meeting that he underwent a
medical checkup after last week's debate and it's fine that,
According to three people with knowledge of the discussion, During
an hour long meeting prompted by intensifying concerns about his
health and political viability, one governor asked Biden by his
physical condition. The President mentioned having had a check up
(01:10):
in recent days and serted that he remains in good health,
knocking on wood for effect. According to two people that
were there, yes, so that happened now. That statement, in
a hastily arranged White House meeting that saw nearly a
dozen governors travel to DC while others participated virtually, came
just hours after the White House Press Secretary Jean Pierre
(01:32):
sidestep direct questions from reporters who asked if he had
been examined since the debate, saying this, the President has
regular annual physicals, and we released it through a report,
a thorough report. We're going to continue to do that. Again,
that's not the question that was asked. Biden's remarks, according
(01:53):
to a person familiar with the president's schedule, was in
reference to a short check up by a White House
physician days following the debate due to quote, lingering symptoms
from his cold. The exam, that person at it was
brief and did not include any major tests. Now, Democrats
are coming forward now and they are saying it is
(02:15):
time for him to step down.
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Again.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
They're saying this Democratic representative Huffman said, quote we should
announce our presidential ticket after the Republican convention so we
know what we're running against, implying that Joe Biden is
absolutely not going to be their pick. CNN also says
this that Biden told Democratic governors he needs more sleep
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and to stop scheduling events after eight o'clock at night.
So again the President being a complainer in chief when
meeting with the governors.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
We have new details coming in this afternoon on President
Biden's ongoing fight for his political future. Sources tell CNN
and the President told Democratic governors during yesterday's White House
meeting that he needs more sleep and he plans to
stop scheduling events after eight pm. That meeting was an
attempt to reassure Democratic leaders that he could win reelection
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and serve out another term. His campaign faces a critical
test in the next forty eight hours Tomorrow, President Biden
is that hit the campaign tr and then we'll see
him in his first televised interview since the debate today.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Now, this first interview that he's going to do has
now been changed to a prime time event with George
Stepanopolis at eight o'clock Eastern on Friday night.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It is not going to be live. What does that mean.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
It means that they can protect the president with editing. Now,
let's talk about the money drawing up for the president
as well. Donald Trump's campaign raised three hundred and thirty
one million in this year's second quarter, and it smashes
what Biden has brought in and the money apparently is
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completely drying up. Barbara Boxer slamming Democrats by the way,
calling for Biden to stepped down. They're on TV for
their five minutes of fame as it's clear that a
civil war has broken out within the Democratic Party.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Art Senator, you said, give Biden two weeks to fix
his ailing campaign. It has now been a full week
since the debate. We haven't even seen a TV interview
or press conference yet. That's not going to come until
tomorrow and next week, respectively. Is he moving too slow
on his reset?
Speaker 5 (04:30):
No, I meant two weeks from now. The article you're
quoting was run today two weeks. I agree with Debbie Dingle.
I disagree with these members who are coming on TV
for their five minutes of fame and pushing out a
man who has been one of the greatest presidents since
FDR and by the way I say, because there are
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two schools of thought. My school of thought is show
us the comeback. You've done it your whole life, mister president.
You've come back from personal losses, you've come from political losses.
And here's the thing about these members and folks who
are coming on your station and a lot of your
experts pushing this man out right now before he has
a chance.
Speaker 6 (05:12):
Is this.
Speaker 5 (05:13):
We know that Donald Trump is the truth thread here.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
We know because he.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
Talked thirty lies in ninety minutes. That's what he put
out there, thirty lies. He refused to accept the results
of the election. He's already going after Liz Cheney and
saying she's guilty of treason, which, by the way, the
penalty for that is murder.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
It goes on and on.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
He also said at the debate that Democrats would kill
babies after they're born. And everybody's focused on, you know,
Joe Biden. And last point, how many times did we
some Trump fall asleep at his own criminal trial where
he was found guilty of four counts and also liable
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for sexual assault in another courtroom against Egen Carroll. So
please spare me. You're five minutes of fame. Give this
man a chance to pick himself up. He's done it
so many times.
Speaker 6 (06:15):
Joe Woodie.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Now, I love this, by the way, because that's Barbara Boxer, right,
She's dug in for him. She's one of the old guards.
She's the one that's saying this. But Debbie Dingle said,
and I'm going to play this for you a little
bit later with my conversation I'm going to have with
Center Cruz about this. She said, Biden is a is
in a bubble wrap interview with Stepanopholis, and one interview
quote won't fix this. David Jolly said, the one person
(06:39):
Trump doesn't want to run against this Gavin Newsom. As
they're already moving on to who's going to replace him.
Over at MSNBC. They're acting like Joe Biden is gone.
Speaker 7 (06:47):
On the other side of this equation, of course, is
the Trump campaign.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
What scenarios do you think that they are preparing for
right now?
Speaker 9 (06:54):
I look, they hope Joe Biden stays in because they
see him as weak, and then they want to run
against Kamala Harrer. But I think that they should be
very careful here because I do think there's an opportunity
for Joe Biden and the Democrats to have a very
unifying week. First of all, it's inevitable something has to break,
the fever has to break.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
So either Joe.
Speaker 9 (07:13):
Biden coalesces all the Democrats this week and says we're
going forward as a unified Democratic party and you are
sticking with me, or he makes another decision but also
creates a very unifying moment for national Democrats and frankly
for the nation as well, about a new chapter of
democratic leadership. Hollywood could write this script ally for the
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next week, but look, who do they want to run
against it?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Look?
Speaker 9 (07:37):
I would also say Joe Biden one tool he hasn't used,
the greatest tool he has is an address to the nation,
because this is not just a political question. We talk
about it as a political question for November, but this
is a question for right now. And if Joe Biden
can reassure the nation it begins to answer the questions
about November, they could decide whether or not to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
I mean, they are all over the place now.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I believe that there's one other aspect of this that
must be brought up, and that's this. I believe we're
witnessing right now, one of the biggest political cover ups
in history of this country. That all these people around
the president have been covering for an incapacitated president of
the United States of America. This is, by the way,
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why we have the twenty fifth Amendment. This is why
you have a cabinet. Okay, And I'm sorry. It's a
moment in history that I think we're going to look
back on and we're going to realize that that everyone
around the president was covering for him, was lying for him,
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was protecting him, and insulating him and bubble wrapping him.
Is that, one Democrat said a moment ago, and so
I look at this. This is a moment that the
Democratic Party created. Now, even NBC's Allen said this on
TV about the moment we're in now.
Speaker 10 (09:00):
Listen, Jonathan starting with you on this. Now that we're
seeing he's getting back on the road, he is going
to be in Wisconsin, business as usual. Certainly this week
has not been business as usual.
Speaker 11 (09:14):
Yeah, this has been the worst week in a presidential
campaign that I can remember in my lifetime. Not only
did he have the debate to bacle, but the effort
to clean it up has been miserable. At best you
hear the arguments for why he didn't do well at
the debate, that he had a cold, that he was
traveling in Europe, he'd been back in the United States
for twelve days. I don't think any American thinks that
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they want a president that is home from twelve for
twelve days from foreign trip and still not quite himself
from the jet lag. So the White House messaging has
been difficult. In the deed yesterday, as you pointed out,
at one moment, Korean John Pierre said he hadn't been
checked out for it by a doctor, than Biden said
he had been checked out by a doctor. One of
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those things is true, one of them is not. Right now,
his White House has a credibility problem. He has a
credibility problem, and I need to make sure that whatever
they're saying is actually true and transparent. He is going
to try over the course of the next several days
to show a different version of himself than people have
been seeing over the last week, but he is in
making a mistake. This is a crisis moment for the
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president and his party.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
They are ready to be done with him, They're ready
to move on to Kamala. I think she's probably the
front runner right now, even though the polls say she
could still be beat. The only person the polling that
shows they would take a lead against Donald Trump would
be a name that I've said here several times, Michelle Obama.
I want to get into my conversation about what is
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next when it comes to Biden campaign and what Democrats
are doing. And we're going to break all this down
with Senator Ted Cruz. We were doing our podcast Verdict.
Take a listen. I mentioned a moment ago that this
White House is floundering on a level I didn't even
know was imaginable in their re responds to this debate.
And every time you think they can't get any worse,
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they then do something that is even more incompetent. And
the response I want to play for you center this.
This is the White House Press secretary floating the idea
that the reason why Joe Biden had a bad night
the other night is that he was suffering from jet
lag almost two weeks, fourteen days after traveling. Here is
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the White House Press secretary trying to sell this to
the American people.
Speaker 12 (11:29):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 13 (11:31):
There's no question that international travel can be rigorous. I
think the confusion is that he's still suffering from the
effects of that nearly two weeks later. So can you
articulate a little bit about like, do you guys usually
have accommodations for him after he does a trip that
he's going to have jet lag for that long a
period of time.
Speaker 6 (11:50):
So can you can you when you say two weeks later,
what do you mean the debate?
Speaker 13 (11:53):
He arrives back in the United States twelve or thirteen
days before the debate, So his explanation for a quar
debate for form jetlag.
Speaker 12 (12:01):
So what I want to say is it's the jet lag.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
And also the cold.
Speaker 12 (12:06):
Right. It is the two things, and that occurred, and
you all heard it in his voice when he did
the debate, right, And it is not even something that
we shared ahead of time.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
You heard it in his voice and we confirmed it.
Speaker 12 (12:20):
And I think that's important to note as well, like
it is the jet lag and the cold. But I
want to be really I want to be really clear here.
This is not an excuse, right, this is not an excuse.
You all asked for an explanation, and we get we're
giving it an explanation.
Speaker 6 (12:33):
It is not an excuse.
Speaker 12 (12:35):
I don't want that to be the leading piece of
this asked for the only reason we're sharing this because
it was asked of me here and the President certainly
wanted to give an explanation himself, and that's what he
did yesterday. We want to We understand that it wasn't
his best night.
Speaker 6 (12:51):
It wasn't a great debate.
Speaker 12 (12:53):
We understand that, and we understand what supporters saw, what
the American people saw, and what you all saw, and
so we wanted to give an explanation. So I don't
want to get into this or are you giving this
excuse that excuse, We're giving.
Speaker 6 (13:07):
You what our explanation was.
Speaker 12 (13:09):
We want to continue to make sure that we do
everything that we can to deliver for the American people.
Speaker 6 (13:16):
That's what we're going to continue to.
Speaker 14 (13:17):
Also want it.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
I mean, Senator, you hear this. It's no excuse.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
We're just you ask So we're just telling you, fourteen
days after international travel, the president was suffering from jetwag.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
So there's the story.
Speaker 12 (13:30):
You know.
Speaker 15 (13:30):
I got to say every time I hear Kaarin John Pierre,
I think she is the opposite of William Jefferson Clinton.
William Jefferson Clinton, you'll recall was referred to as an
unusually good liar, that he could lie and it was believable,
and he'd bite his lip and he'd you know, pointed,
push his thumb together, and you just you believed he
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felt your pain. He could lie better than anyone. I
think Karee John Pierre is an unusually bad liar. Like
when she does it, it's laughably false. One of the
things if you're going to be in a job as
a media hack and trying to spin people, typically you
learn not to tell just brazen lies that are absurd.
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When Kareem John Pierre stood in the White House press
briefing room and said, you know, people are not just
coming across the border. It's not happening. They're not walking
across the border. It doesn't happen. That was such a
wild lie. Literally every reporter could pull up on their
phone videos of it happening while she was talking. That's
a bad lie here. This jetlag thing is a really
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bad lie. Like anyone who's actually flown internationally. Look, jetlag
is a si thing. It's a reasonable thing. You feel
it a day maybe two when you fly from one
place to the other. You know, he was in Europe.
He was there for Normandy. I was there for Normandy.
I got to say the idea that I'd be complaining
now you know, I've still got jetlag because several weeks
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ago I was in Europe. That's just obviously stupid. And
they don't want the explanation to be the explanation that
every person with eyeballs and common sense saw, which is
this is an old man who's suffering from dementia. That's
the answer. And so well, you know he wasn't a
plane a few weeks earlier. Let's call it jetlag. Yeah, yeah,
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maybe people out there are dumb enough to believe that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, and they went on TV like a full court
press to try to sell this at the White House.
This was another one of their interviews outside of Jean Pierre,
where they're like, all right, guys, everybody got on TV
and sell that the President is jet lagged.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
Apparently, the President apologized to everyone in the room saying,
this is not an excuse, but it is an explanation,
and he blamed the extensive foreign travel that he did
and the lead up to the CNN debate for his
poor performance. Just a reminder for everyone, he did go
to France for the D Day anniversary, and then he
turned right back around and went to Italy for the
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G seven summit, and he told the room, I didn't
listen to my staff, so the suggestion there being his
staff did not think this was a good idea. And
then he apparently said, I almost fell asleep on stage.
I just want to unpack this new explanation for a second,
as the explanation for why his debate performance was so bad.
I find it a little bit puzzling, and frankly, I'm
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not sure that a lot of people are going to
find this reassuring. If anything, some folks might hear this
and be even more concerned. Yes, there were two foreign
trips in the lead up to the June twenty seventh
CNN debate, but he returned from Italy on June fifteenth.
The debate again was on June twenty seven, so we're
talking about roughly twelve days in between when he was
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back in the States. And remember a part of those
twelve days, about a full week, he actually spent with
his advisors at Camp David for the sole purpose of
really focusing on debate preps. So why is the president
falling asleep on the debate stage at the hours of
nine pm.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
To ten thirty.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
I can't believe by the way that CNN saying that
they have all turned on him, like they have just
completely turned on him. With Mjlee, they're saying, I find
it a little bit puzzling that this guy's at Camp
David for a whole week and you've done debate prep.
So let's pull back the curtain on that. When you've
done your most vigorous debate prep, Senator, and I've been
blessed to be in several different debate preps for different
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major races, it doesn't last twelve hours a day now,
the ones I've done certainly not for seven days straight.
It's usually two or three hours of intense debate prep
and then you take a legit break.
Speaker 12 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (17:27):
Look, and I've never done a week of debate prep.
Typically what I do debate prep, it is one to
two days. Is what's involved.
Speaker 12 (17:34):
You know.
Speaker 15 (17:34):
The irony of the of their jet lag explanation is
the fact that we know he spent a week at
Camp David where the only thing on the plate was
getting ready for debate prep, and I am certain he
slept a lot of hours that week and listen he should.
One of the things I do for debate prep. You know,
you know there's studies that have been done. This is
something when I was arguing cases at the Supreme Court,
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I looked at there were medical studies that are done
that show the more sleep you get, the faster your
brain thinks, the faster your neurons fire. Before a Supreme
Court argument, I used to the night before try to
get nine to ten hours sleep, which is a lot
more sleep. I typically get six to seven hours sleep
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a night before a Supreme Court argument, I would try
to get nine to ten hours sleep a night and
I'd do that both the night before the argument, and
I'd do that two nights before the argument the reason
two nights before the argument. Years ago in college, I
used to teach at Princeton Review the test prep class
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that helped students. I taught the SAT and I taught
the l SAT. And when I was teaching at Princeton Review,
we would teach teach students to do the same thing,
get a ton of sleep the night before your exam,
and get a ton of sleep two nights before your exam.
Because there's scientific studies that show the sleep you get
two nights before an event affects your brain speed. And
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what I found in Supreme Court arguments is that if
I had two nights of supercharging sleep, nine to ten
hours of sleep, two nights in a row, that when
I'd stand up there for the argument at the podium,
my brain was a half second faster, a half second
quicker to respond to a question, to think about a
line of argument, to anticipate where the other side was going,
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to anticipate where a justice was going. When I'd prepare
for political debates, I do the same thing. I try
to have two nights of nine to ten hours sleep
the two nights before, and it makes a real difference.
Your brain is fast and quick. Biden had an entire
week where he could sleep. He could have slept twelve
hours a day every day for a week. And so
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the idea that they're saying, well, yeah, but two weeks earlier,
he was on a plane, So it's jet lag. Nobody
who's ever flown an airplane believes that.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
There's also this big interview that's about to take place,
and it's become actually even bigger since when you and
I mentioned it, there is George Stepanopolis and I think
we should remind people who he is. He is a
hardcore lefty that acts like he's now some sort of journalist,
even though he was best known for defending Bill Clinton
and giving Bill Clinton some of the best spin lines
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in history.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
It's the friendliest person.
Speaker 15 (20:14):
Look, he was basically Kareem John John Pierre for Bill Clinton. Yeah,
he was a press staffer. He was a comm staffer.
He was in the White House. He was on the
Clinton White House staff. I think his title is communications director,
So he wasn't actually the press secretary, but he was
the press flack. He was the person. He was the Jensaki.
He was the one who was in charge of communications
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for Bill Clinton for years. He was very close to
Bill Clinton, and then he jumped over. As many dem
communication hacks do, they leave that role and they jump
over and they become like Jensaki, they get their own show. Well,
George Stephanopoulos went from being the official spokesperson for the
Democratic president to being at abs ABC acting as effectively
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the official spokesperson for the Democrat press.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
And he's the guy that's going to get this interview.
We now have word that this they've decided to change
this interview to a quote prime time special on Friday
night to save in essence. I think his presidency and
Democrats aren't even buying that. MSNBC and one of the
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hardcore lefties out there, Debbie Dingle, she said this on
MSNBC on July fourth.
Speaker 8 (21:28):
They've been after Joe Biden all week. So he's got
one thing to do, which is to get up and
go out to prove to people that he can do
the job. We'll do the job, and has the stamina.
Took too long to make some of the phone calls.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
He shut up.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
I think he's in a bubble wrap. I'm inn of
the senior's staff, and I think he's starting to do
what he has to do.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
One interview tomorrow, he's not going.
Speaker 16 (21:50):
To fix this.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
One interview tomorrow is quote not going to fix this.
This is one of the most extreme lefties on MSNBC
saying that.
Speaker 15 (22:00):
Well, and listen. One of the most revealing things that
ABC interview is taped. It's not live. If they were
real journalists. You know what ABC should do. You know
what George Stephanopholis should insist on doing. The debate was live.
Let's have this interview be live. The American people need
to see how you answer real time, which means we ABC,
We're not going to edit out when you stare blankly
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out at the wall and don't know what I say.
We're not going to edit out when you stumble. The
fact that it is taped means that George Stefanopolis can
go in and say, okay, oh, this exchange looked really
bad for Joe Biden. Let's cut that out.
Speaker 12 (22:34):
Hmm.
Speaker 15 (22:35):
Okay, he's staring off at the ceiling and doesn't know
what's going on. Let's definitely not air that. And let's
find snippets where he seems kjin and let's piece them together. Now,
if George Stephanopolis was wearing his hat as Democrat Operative
putting together a TV campaign for Biden, that would be
a reasonable thing to do. But he's at least pretending
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to be a journalist. The SEA is pretending to be
an actual news organization, and so anyone who actually cares
about journalism or news should insist the thing be live.
Let the American people see how he acts in real time.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Let's take a step back from this, and I want
to ask you another question. You and I actually haven't
even talked about this yet so I'm I'm genuinely intrigued
to know what you think, and that is, are we
going to look back weeks, months, years from now, and
are we going to look at this moment in history
and say, was this the biggest political cover up in history?
(23:37):
That we had an incapacitated president, that the American people
were sheltered from, that the White House was covering for
and lying for, that the media was covering for and
lying for. I go back to November, Okay, not that
long ago. White House pres seretory Jean Pierre said this
to the American people.
Speaker 12 (23:57):
I would put the President's DaMina Present's wisdom ability to
get this done on behalf of the American people against anyone,
anyone on any.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Day of the week.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I mean that was that was November, Senator, And I
think this is one of the biggest.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Progress that she's a really bad witness.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Yeah, she is a really bad liar, But I mean
this is this is one of the biggest political cover
ups I've ever witnessed.
Speaker 15 (24:22):
You know, yes, and no, of course it's a cover up.
Of course everyone is complicit in. And of course the
Democrats all know and they're lying. Of Course, the media
all know and they're lying. But at the same time,
it's not a cover up anyone whose head is not
plunged into the sand. You knew before the debate last
week that Joe Biden was mentally incapacitated. You knew that
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it was obvious. Anyone who's ever had an elderly relative,
a loved one, dealing with dementia, dealing with Alzheimer's, You've
seen that distant look, that shuffle, that look of confusion.
We see that every week. It's obvious. Look, We've never
seen a president do what Joe Biden does, which is
not talked to anyone in the Senate. In three and
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a half years, I've had no conversations with Joe Biden.
He has had no conversations with virtually any Republican senator.
We sit around at lunch and talk about how weird
that is, because a major part of the job being
in the Senate is dealing with the president, working with
the president. You know, just over a month ago, I
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passed the FA Reauthorization Bill. That is a huge bill,
one hundred and ten billion dollars investment in infrastructure, in
safety for aviation, enhancing safety for the flying public, hiring
new air traffic controllers to keep people safe when they fly,
investing billions in airports, putting collision detection technology on runways
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to keep people safe, also expanding competition. Just Texas alone,
hundreds of thousands of jobs depend upon aviation. We have
made major airlines based in Texas. Millions of jobs depend
indirectly on aviation. It was a huge bipartisan victory. I
was the lead author along with Maria Cantwell. We passed it.
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We passed it on the floor of the Senate eighty
eight to Ford. Includes within it, finally, finally, finally, a
direct flight from San Antonio to Reagan Washington National Airport,
something San Antonio that entire community has been fighting for
for twenty years. That was a victory I wrote into law,
and we want it now. You know what would normally
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happen when you pass major bipartisan legislation.
Speaker 2 (26:37):
I'm assuming you'd say the President might get in contact with.
Speaker 15 (26:39):
You, you'd have a signing ceremony. In a typical normal
functioning administration when there's big bipartisan legislation, the next step
is the White House contacts you and says we're going
to have a signing ceremony, the signing ceremony, you go,
both the Democrats and Republicans who are the authors of
the bill, go and the president and it signs the
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bill into law in the Oval office, and there are
people there'd be in this instance, you would have people
from the airlines there. You'd have people from airports there,
You'd have the pilots unions there, you'd have the flight
attendance unions there, you'd have everyone impacted by the bill
there in the Oval office. I've been to a lot
of signing ceremonies. It's pretty typical. You know what the
Biden White House said.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Well, I wouldn't even be surprised. They didn't even know
you guys were doing it.
Speaker 15 (27:25):
Oh no, no, they knew. They knew. And Biden signed the
bill when it came over. He signed it into law.
But there was no ceremony. And the reason there's no
ceremony they cannot have him interact with other people because
it is blazingly obvious this man is incapacitated. That has
been the way the administration is operated from day one.
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They don't do signing ceremonies like other administrations. They hide
him and so yes, it's a cover up. But at
another level, no, it's not really a cover up because
everybody knows the thing that is stuff cutting ben. On
the Democrat side of the aisle, nobody cares. I have
yet to speak to a single Democrat senator or a
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single Democrat House member who's expressed genuine concern that the
commander in chief does not know what type of day
it is, that the commander in chief can't find his
way out of a locked box. I haven't heard any
concern from a single Democrat that America is much less
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safe because our commander in chief is mister Magoo. He
is a confused individual with serious disabilities who is not
able to handle a difficult situation. Look when you see
the g eight leaders gather together and Joe Biden starts
wandering off and the Italian Prime Minister has to go
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and grab his hand and lead him back. That's not good.
It's not good for the American president to be treated
as the elderly uncle everyone needs to take care of
and cut his food for and make sure they're no
big pieces so that he can we can steer the
airplane into the mouth. That is horrible for America and
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frustratingly ben No Democrat cares. The only reason anyone's discussing
this now is suddenly on the debate, the American people
saw it, and the Democrats are afraid they might lose.
If they didn't think they were gonna lose, every Democrat
would say, stick with him forever, We're great, doesn't matter
if the president is competent or not.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
One Democrat that went on TV, I guess he's like
the sacrificial lamb is representative Democratic Representative Dan Goldman. He
said this about the president trying to reassure Americans he's
really fine, there's no cognitive decline.
Speaker 14 (29:47):
And the people who are with him every day have
indicated as well that it was an aberration, that it
is an anomaly, and if that is the case, then
we will see that, and we will see that over
the next week, and he will restore our faith and
confidence in his fitness.
Speaker 16 (30:04):
And then everything else between the two of them cuts
in favor of Joe Biden. So people are right to
have some concerns after that performance. And I don't think
there's any excuse that Joe Biden offered. I think he
was trying to explain how he had such a poor performance,
But he's accepted it, he's owned it, he's acknowledged it
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as we all have. And what we need to see
from him is that vibrant and whip smart president that
we have had for the last three and a half years.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
And the people, I mean, you listen to him, and
then you go to the facts. Biden's post debate checkup
actually contradicts what the White House said. They have now
confirmed that, and President Biden confirmed And again I'm quoting
reports coming out of the White House to the Democratic governors.
Remember they had this nine to one to one, you know,
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all hands on deck meeting with Democratic governors to try
to reassure them that he had a medical checkup following
the president of debate, despite earlier statements from the White
House pres secretary on multiple occasions that he had not
received any medical exam since February.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
We played some of that in the last show.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
The White House later clarified that Biden was seen by
a doctor for a brief quote brief checkup due to
the lingering symptoms from a cold, which did not include
any major tests. So even when they lie to you,
they still can't. They're now lying to either the governors
or the American people, or they're just lying about all
of it.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Your thoughts.
Speaker 15 (31:33):
Yeah, look, the cold is nonsense, the jet lag is nonsense.
Everyone knows that the issue is that he's too old
and he's suffering from dementia. That that is blazingly true.
They're trying to distract from this. Look, I'll give you
a sense of how bad it is. Even the Praetorian Guard,
even the most zealous defenders of Joe Biden, the Democrats,
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and by that I mean the New York Times, even
there turning on her. On Wednesday of this week, The
New York Times wrote a story, the headline of which
is Biden tells allies he knows he has only days
to salvage candidacy. Here's what The New York Times wrote.
By the way, this is not an editorial, This is
a news story. President Joe Biden has told key allies
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that he knows the coming days are crucial and understands
that he may not be able to salvage his candidacy
if he cannot convince voters that he is up to
the job. After a disastrous debate performance last week. According
to two allies who have spoken with him, Biden has
emphasized that he is still deeply committed to fight for
his reelection, but understands that his viability as a candidate
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is on the line. The President sought to project confidence
Wednesday in a call with campaign staff, even as White
House officials were trying to calm nerves inside the ranks
of the Biden administration. Quote, no one's pushing me out,
Biden said in the call, I'm not leaving. Vice President
Kamala Harris was also on the line. Quote, we will
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not back down. We will follow our president's lead. She said.
We will fight and we will win. Rah rah rah. Still,
Biden allies said the President had privately acknowledged that his
next few appearances heading into the July fourth holiday weekend
must go well, particularly in an interview scheduled for Friday
with George Stephanopolos of ABC News and campaign stops in
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Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. Quote, he knows that if he has
two more events like that, we're in a different place
by the end of the weekend, said one of the allies,
referring to Biden's halting and unfocused performance on the debate.
That person who talked to the President in the past
twenty four hours spoke on the condition of anonymity to
discuss a sensitive situation. The accounts of his conversations with
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allies are the first indication to become public that the
president is seriously considering whether he can recover after a
devastating performance on the debate stage in Atlanta last Thursday.
A new poll from The New York Times in Siena
College show the former president Donald Trump now leads Biden
forty nine to forty three percent among likely voters nationally,
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a three point swing towards the Republican from just a
week earlier before the debate. This is they're terrified. And
note they're terrified about one thing. They think Biden's going
to lose. If they thought a mentally incompetent person was
going to win, they'd be fine. But they're terrified that
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there are at least some people who say, gosh, maybe
the commander in chief should should be aware of what's
going on around it.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
So let me ask you this.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
In the poll numbers that you just mentioned also connect
to some other polls that have come out, and that
is they're pulling every name against Donald Trump. There is
only one name right now that in the polling shows
that it could that they could quote beat Donald Trump.
That is the that you gave nine months ago that
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we've been talking about ever since. In Michelle Obama, there
have been pretty queer messages coming from her camp. She's
not interested. And then the next person that everyone now
seems to be thinking is probably the one that would
replace them is Kamala Harris. And that's just from the
money aspect of things. She's the one that can use
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the money they've raised. She's the one that's already set
up to just keep walking forward. The same team would
be there, the same campaign manager, all the staff is
around there, So she would be the quote easiest choice.
You look at this, it doesn't say she could win,
But is she the front runner or is it Michelle Obama?
Speaker 2 (35:43):
Or who is it? In your opinion?
Speaker 15 (35:45):
Look, I still think it's Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama is
the only candidate the Democrats could push Kamala aside, for
they know Kamala is a terrible candidate. They're really scared.
They don't want her at the top of the ticket.
But they're bean counters. The way their party is, whatever
your race, whatever your gender, whoever you are, that is
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the dominant feature about you. It matters more than anything else.
The people who talk about putting Gavin Newsom in and
pushing Kamala aside, the Democrat Party would would would spontaneously
explode if they pushed a black woman aside for a
rich white man. They're not going to do that. There
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is the number of people who can push Kamala aside
in the Democrat Party. It is a set of one,
and the only one is Michelle Obama. She too is
an African American woman. She could push Kamala aside. Look
the polling we've seen where there's a poll that came
out this week that showed Michelle Obama with a double
digit lead over Donald Trump. She would be a very
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very dangerous candidate if it's not Michelle Obama. If Michelle
says no, she might. I hope she says no. You know,
I want to speak directly to mill Hey, you're really rich.
You're enjoying the life of a movie star. Private jets
are fun, the Hamptons are fun. You're palide around with
people who are famous, with rock stars. You don't need
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to go to work. You don't need to bother yourself
with pushing a Marxist agenda to destroy America. Leave it
to others to destroy America. You and your family have
done enough to damage the world. Enjoy the life of
a gazillionaire. I don't know that my pitch is persuasive,
but I hope it is because it would be very
good if she decides not to run. If she does
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decide not to run, then I think the person that
replaces Biden probably is Kamala because I don't think anyone
else can. I think Kamala is a really weak candidate.
She is a very unpopular vice president. There's a reason
when she ran for president in twenty twenty she got
zero delegates. She couldn't even make it to Iowa and
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get any support. But if she becomes the nominee, they
probably probably plug someone in there as a VP to
try to balance it. It wouldn't surprise me to see
I could see Gavin Newsom as a VP to either
Kamala Harris or to Michelle Obama. I think Gavin Newsom
is very much on the VP train. I could see
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a Gretchen Witmer, the governor of Michigan, as a VP
to either one of them, as well both of those.
I think are real possibilities. But at the end of
the day, I think the only two nominees who have
a credible chance replacing Biden or Michelle Obama and Kamala Harris.
And if I were a Democrat, I'd be all in
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on Michelle because the polling shows she wins and Kamala loses.
Speaker 2 (38:42):
Final two questions for you.
Speaker 1 (38:43):
One, when do you think the media has to stop
this onslaught of attacks on the president because they're going
full court press is in another week and then they
got to dial it back in case he does continue
to be the nominee, they can't push him out. And
number two, how important is this is prime time taped
interview Friday night for Joe Biden's future?
Speaker 15 (39:08):
Well, I mean, let me start with number two. The
interview on Friday is very important. If he goes and
just craps the bed, that could be fatal. I think
ABC and Stephanopoulos are going to do everything they can
to prevent that from happening. I think they're going to
edit the heck out of the interview. They should run
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it live, and anyone who cares like ABC should be
embarrassed about itself that it's not running it live. Because
their editing will be designed to create a false impression,
to protect Joe Biden, to turn it into a campaign video.
If they're a real journalistic outlet. You know when I
do interviews, I do them live, and if I say
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something dumb, you know what, the camera catches it and
all the world can hear. And it's not ABC's job
to be doing the pr and damage control for the Democrats,
but that's what they're doing. I think the interview matters
a lot. I also think it's interesting you're seeing Democrats
publicly breaking ships. So Lloyd Doggett, very liberal Democrat from Austin, Texas,
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became the first Democrat member of Congress to say the
president should step aside. Two others, Jared Golden and Maine
and Marie Gluosen camp Perez of Washington, both Democrats, both
said they believe Biden will lose in November. That's significant
that you're seeing elected Democrats coming out saying that. Another one,
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Seth Moulton, another Democrat from Massachusetts, raised real questions about
whether Biden can win. He said, quote, I deeply respect
President Biden and all the great things he's done for America,
but I have grave concerns about his ability to defeat
Donald Trump. Winning will require prosecuting the case of the
media in town halls and at pain stops all over
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the country. President Biden needs to demonstrate that he can
do that. The unfortunate reality is that the status quo
will likely deliver us President Trump. We're seeing that happening
more and more and more.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
Now.
Speaker 15 (41:14):
Your first question was how long will the media continue
to attack? Listen on the debate night, I predicted if
this is gonna happen, it's gonna shake out in twenty
one days. So we're a week into it. I think
we have two more weeks ahead of us. We will
go into the Republican Convention in two weeks. I think
we'll know what happens by then. A final point in
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one that has not been discussed a great deal. I
think all of this drama impacts President Trump very significantly,
and in particular, it impacts his vice presidential choice. Trump
is in the middle of presumably picking who he wants
to be VP. Lots of names have been floated, there
are lots of short lists, lots of things discussing. Well,
(41:58):
normally when you're picking a VP candidate, you know who
your opponent is you know what you're fighting against. In
this instance, it's a very difficult situation for Trump because
the kind of VP he might pick if he's running
against Joe Biden and Kamala Harris could be a very
different VP than if he's running against Michelle Obama. I
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think right now the Trump team is feeling incredibly confident.
I think they think they're gonna win, They're gonna beat
Joe Biden. I think they're feeling on top of the world.
I can tell you if the news broke tomorrow that
Biden was not the nominee anymore and it was gonna
be Michelle Obama, the Trump team, if it were not
at a major emergency mode level of this is serious,
(42:47):
then they'd be misreading the situation because Michelle Obama's the
Democrat nominee is incredibly dangerous and that could easily impact
the vice presidential nominee. So, for example, if it's Michelle Obama,
maybe Trump picks Tim Scott, deciding that he wants to
go fight and fight more aggressively for African American votes.
That's one possible consideration that maybe that's a little bit
(43:10):
less of a consideration. If Joe Biden is at the
top of the ticket, so there are complicated, complicated chess
moves that are playing out right now because of the
uncertainty of who's going to be the nominee.
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