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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Let me start with number one, just so you guys
are prepared. We will be live at the convention all
next week. We have some very big interviews that are
lined up. You are not going to want to miss them.
So number one, make sure you download the Ben Ferguson
podcast every day of the convention. As I said, some
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very big interviews with some very very very big guests
will be joining me at the convention. So that is
number one. I just want to make sure you guys
have that programming note. Okay, now onto the big news,
and I'm going to give you kind of a recap
because I think it's important to talk about what's happened
over the last several days.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Before the quote big boy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Press conference, the President of the United States of America
did that interview with George Stepanopolis. That didn't work. It
didn't make everything better. That is when publicly you started
to see the Democratic Party really unravel publicly. They'd already
done it privately after the first debate, but the White
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House was like, hey, it was just.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A bad night, give us a second chance.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The second chance was the Stepanopolis interview that didn't stop
the bleeding. Democrats then started coming out and publicly saying
we want another candidate. Now, the reason why they did
that is because they don't want to lose power. That's
the whole ballgame here, and I think that's been pretty clear.
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After Stepanopolis happened. Not only did you have Democrats publicly
saying we need a new candidate, but then you had
the staff around the President of the United States of
America start to jump ship on him as well, and
that's when the dam really started to break.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That is where we are right now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All right, You've got a situation now where the President
of the United States of America is losing his staff.
The leagues that are coming from inside the White House
are significant, and you're starting to lose cabinet members that
are now leaking about how they never see the president,
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they never meet with the president, they haven't had a
cabinet meeting in over eight months. When they do meet
with the president, they have to submit their questions beforehand,
and then they're being told how he's going to answer
and when he's going to answer, and to be ready
to answer these questions. So everything is scripted, nothing is real.
I have been very lucky in my career to be
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around presidents. I can tell you it doesn't work this way,
whether it was when I was working as a sagon
on the Bush campaign in two thousand and four, working
with the white House after that after we won that election,
whether it is around candidates that are running for the
presidency and having the meetings at the top level, you
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don't have submitting of questions at that level. My mentor
was former Secretary or say Attorney General John Ashcroft. I
can tell you don't not have meetings with the president
number one, and you don't have meetings that are scripted
the way that they've been described.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
This is not normal.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This has been done solely because of the cognitive decline
of Joe Biden. I've been around Donald Trump, in fact,
I was in the Oval days before his final State
of the Union, and this is not how that White
House worked either. I can tell you from people that
I know that worked with Bill Clinton, that worked with
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Barack Obama, this is not how it worked in any
white House. It is absurd to imply that this is
how it works. To the cabinet. Now we know that
this isn't, by the way normal. As much as the
White House tries to claim that this is somehow very normal.
And the reason why I say that is because it's
the actual cabinet members of Joe Biden's cabinet that are leaking. Now,
why would they be leaking. People have asked this quest
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of me, and I'm going to answer it quickly. They're
leaking because they don't want to lose their job as
a cabinet member. So they if they believe they're going
to lose, right, then they want another candidate so maybe
they can keep their job. The candidate that they seem
to all be coalescing around is the one that they
believe is the easiest one to replace the president, and
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that is Kamala Harris. It's not because she's necessarily the
best one. It's because she's the easiest one. Okay, That's
the real reason here, and people need to understand that
this is the real reason why.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is she's the easiest.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
She can keep the same campaign apparatus, which also, by
the way, means that everybody in the Biden campaign keeps
their job. It means that everybody at the White House
has a very good chance of keeping their jobs. It
means that everybody in the cabinet has a very good
chance of keeping their job or the best chance of
keeping their job. It is friendlies right among them, so
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they're trying to do this. Now here's the other thing.
I think there's a real chance now that the Democrats
in the cabinet are floating these stories out there that
they have not seen the president, that the President doesn't
talk to them, that they have to submit their questions right.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The list goes on and on. And the reason why
they're doing this is.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because I think they're actually looking at the real possibility
of the twenty fifth Amendment. And if they decided to
pull the twenty fifth Amendment on the President of the
United States of America, their boss who they're supposed to
serve at the privilege of they're going to get rid
of him that way, so then they can keep their
jobs in a cabinet with Kamala Harris, and that would
probably be the deal that they're making with Kamala right now.
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You also look at the top advisors of the president
that are leaking right now, and they keep saying things like,
we're really angry, we're really frustrated, We're trying to figure
out how to get him to come to a census.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We're trying to get him to figure out how to
come together.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're trying to get him to understand this is what
he needs to do for the presidency, for the good
of the party.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All that's crap.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This is also they keep their power because remember, every
one of them is out of a job if Joe
Biden loses to Donald Trump. This is about self preservation.
It's not about what's best for the country. It is
about self preservation. And that is the entire conversation that
they're having behind the scenes. Now I put all that
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together to then play the next part of them trying
to get rid of the president. We are now hearing
that donors are stopping the funds. They're saying, we're done
the funds, We're done with We're not going to release
any more of the money that we've pledged to the
President of the United States of America and Joe Biden's
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campaign because we want you gone.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I want you to take a listen to when this
news broke.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Breaking this hour or New York Times reporting, donors have
told the largest pro Biden superpack that roughly ninety million
dollars in pledges are now frozen if Biden remains at
the top of the ticket, but this may only be
the beginning. Reports claim a coordinated Democratic rebellion is set
to unfold during a brutal forty eight hour stretch for Biden.
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An eighteenth Democrat lawmaker just called for Biden's exit ninety
minutes ago. Now we're learning that President Biden privately met
with White House Minority Leader Jeffreys after his solo press
conference last night, where he made several embarrassing mistakes on
the world stage.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
This is again all orchestrated, and they're now laying out
the plan, and you can watch the plan taking shape.
You have the money dry out, you have elected officials
come in and say we're done.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You have.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Other elected officials start leaking, you have cabinet members start leaking,
you have everybody leak everything, and you just keep hammering
at him until he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
See a pathway forward.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This also is a strategy that is going to be
interesting because I don't think Joe Biden cares. I think
he's holding the Democratic Party hostage at this point, saying
if it ain't me, it ain't gonna be you either. Hey, Kamala,
you think you're gonna get this without me?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, everybody, all these elitists and donors like, I think
this guy is irrational and digging in. I think any
irrational person would look at what's happening right now and say, okay, hey,
I am too old, right.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But he's not rational.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He has Parkinson's or dementia or Alzheimer's or who knows
what the hell he's got. But it's clear that logic
is not going to work with him at all. President Trump,
by the way, capitalize on these massive mistakes. He was
asked on Clay and Buck Good Friend of Mine show
today about Biden's undoubtedly bad press conference and getting names wrong,
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for example, like he did when he was introducing Zolensky
and called him Putin. I want you to hear what
Donald Trump said on Klaimbucks show as he was talking
about the massive Zolensky slash Putin intro mistake. If you
missed it, it was cringeworthy. You had Joe Biden talking
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about Zelensky calling him Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Here's what Trump had to say about it. What's your takeaway?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Because the New York Times and a lot of others
seem like they thought it could be the end, but
doesn't really seem like the end.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that to do anything else. But I thought the
worst part of the press conference was the moment during
the day when he introduced Zelenski and he introduced them
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as Vladimir Putin. That was not good. That was unpardonable.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You can't do that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You know, there are things you can do, things you
can't do. Was a bad one. So he introduced them
as Putin, and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know,
that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
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press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
wasn't going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
By the way, I think Donald Trump's absolutely right there.
You noticed how Donald Trump's not really trying to pound
him that hard. Like you notice that like he understands.
Donald Trump gets it. He understands that he wants Joe
Biden to stay the nominee. And every day that goes by,
it is less likely that Donald Trump will have to
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run against Kamala Harris or whoever the hell else the
Democrats decided to put up, including people like Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Now, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Also is in an interesting situation now as well. And
when I say an interesting situation, it's very interesting situation.
Donald Trump has got to pick a vice president. And
you're trying to pick a vice president, which is an
important pick. You pick your vice president obviously, it's someone
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that you believe can take over the job if something
happens to you, Right, that's number one that the people
would trust, that the people would get behind in your party,
and the people that are voting for you would like.
But you also pick a vice president based on what
they bring to the table. And you pick a vice
president many time I'm depending on looking at your opponent,
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like what do I need and a vice president? Right?
What does the other guy have that maybe I want
to be able to counter? Who am I running against
and what attributes would be a good counter to that
person and that team. Well, not knowing who you're running against, right,
you're running against Biden, but you may not be, it
makes it a lot harder to pick your vice president.
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And I'm sure Donald Trump has been holding out as
long as he has because like, all right, well, I
need to know who I'm running against and I need
to know what this looks like If it's Kamala, do
I change my vice president to pick? I think there's
a lot of arguments that you would based on who
the Democrats picked to go against you. Trump was asked
about that in his conversation with my buddies Clay and
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Buck Listen.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Vice President, you've done a good job. I think of
creating a lot of different drama associated with who the
vice president is going to be. Can you tell us
have you made up your mind on your pick yet?
And second part of that, have you decided on how
the vice president is going to be announced?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be, you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
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Tuesday or Wednesday actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
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or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Like?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offer? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of the Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people, and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people think you know four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know
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I had there were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So it's still open though, Sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Jim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
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He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television.
He was incredible. JD has been great. You have a
man named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota.
And you know, it's a state that's very very pressed,
was very successful, and he's done.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A good job there.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You have you have some terrific people.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, if there's any takeaway from what you just heard
from Trumpet's this he wants the vice presidential announcement to
be big. He wants it to be a surprise. You
notice how he floated all those different names there, Right,
I like Bergham, I like JD, I like Marco. Right,
I mean the list, you know, I love you know,
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Tim Scott, And he went through that list. Now there
is a chance he's throwing us off on that list.
And there's another name in there that is on a
list but hasn't been talked about a lot to shock everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Could he do that, Absolutely he could.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But the President wants this to be a made for
RNC convention excitement. He wants to excite the delegates. He
wants to control the media cycle. He wants this to
not come out in a leak. And I don't think
he's made up his mind that he said, probably to anybody.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Maybe in his head he's made up his mind.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But I guarantee you right now, outside of him, like
no one else knows what the hell's going on. And
he's doing that on purpose, which is by the way,
very very very smart. Now, I want to move over
to two other things that are important that Donald Trump
talked about. He talked about like how bad it is
to be Biden right now and how everybody's turning on
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Joe Biden. And notice his demeanor when he's talking about this.
He was asked, for example, about George Clooney. Listen, do
you think.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Barack Obama is behind trying to push out Joe Biden
at all? Do you follow kind of this palace intrigue.
It's really kind of wild. In the two weeks since
you knocked him out in the debate, I mean, they
have just spun completely out of control. And I've been
reading the Barack Obama George Clooney comes out and says, hey,
you got to drop out. Can you believe how much
of a dumpster fire they are right now?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Cloney. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, third
rate movie actor. He was a television actor and never
made really a good movie, and so he's sort of
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third rate. He goes as a movie actor at pluck Gable,
he's not. And you know, but I thought it was.
I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And you hear him there. He does what Trump does
so well.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right, he starts kind of ripping on Clooney, making the
little jabs there, talking about how I'm loyal. And then
you go to the Obama's, all right, what about them?
Are they undermining him?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right now? Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know that
because that's been for a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You remember, you guys, remember your.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary, not Biden,
and Biden never forgot that they hate each other. You
remember when I said that Bush and Marco had a
lot of problems together and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
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and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
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And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
he really passed in a more prime time period.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, what a gift like this is such a gift,
It really is it is a gift that you should
just smile and you should laugh if you're Donald Trump,
because it is a dumpster fire, like a true authentic
dumpster fire. Within the Democratic Party, they're all trying to
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eat each other. It's survival of the fittest right.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They're all trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Out how to get rid of a guy that can
ruin their careers, who, by the way, gave them in
many ways their careers.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I'm like, all right, we're done with you, old man,
see you later.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So if you are looking at this from a conservative standpoint,
there's great things to be excited over. And then there's
the concern over things are so bad for Joe Biden
that we may not even get to run against him.
I want Joe Biden to stay the nominee. I want
Joe Biden to be the guy that I'm voting against
on election day. Democrats realize how out of control this
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has gotten, and now they are just doing everything that
they can to undermine the president.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Let me give you another example.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer went on how it was one
of the late night shows.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't watch them anymore. They suck.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But she was on one this week, and she started
to kind of like, you know, pander and realize like, hey,
the writing's on the wall.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It was a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And Michigan Governor Whitmore, we now have been told, will
not attend Biden's Michigan appearance. And Senator Gary Peters, a
steadfast Biden supporter, and another representative who's by the way,
vying for Michigan's open Senate seats.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So they're like all in right now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They will also now be absent from Joe Biden's appearance
in Michigan, which is a state that you got to
win to win the presidency if you're a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think if you look at.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The math, this is an event, by the way, that
was supposed to be like hey, we're all united, right, Well,
so they're gone. That's the governor gone, number one. You've
got Senator Gary Peters, a step past Biden supporter gone.
You've got another congressperson who's gone, who's actually vying for
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Michigan's open Senate seat. They don't want to be on
stage with him, they don't want to be with him,
they don't want to be around him.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Joe Biden is now toxic all right.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
We also know, and this is a very interesting point,
that the United Auto Workers president is traveling for quote
a conference and won't attend either. He doesn't want to
be on stage with the President of the United States
of America. So what they're telling you is that Joe
Biden is kryptonite and we don't want to be around
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sleepy Joe Biden, and the Democrats internal polling must be
dismal to appear with him on stage. So they're all
now lying and making up reasons why they're not there. Now. Look,
the other thing that the president's having to do now
is have a quote, vigorous schedule.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right, I'm out there, I'm campaigning.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He had an event in Michigan Friday afternoon and creepy
Joe Biden got distracted as he was rambling in Michigan,
and I want you to hear what he said.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And this is the reason why Democrats are running.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
And I think when Debbie and I well, just last
three years, I think we've made a lot of progress.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
We made a lot of progress.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Remember everybody, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Remember?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Serious, guys, you're thirty.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
So it's my daughter and grandad hadn't worked yet, but
I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But anyway, I mean, he just stopped what he says
when he's seeing this like thirteen year old little girl,
and he's like, Hi, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's so creepy. It's not normal.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And then he goes back to his you know, so anyway, right,
we'll go to this other thing. Biden also got very
dazed and confused and started rambling at the same event.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was on TV. Here's what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
And so I decided I wasn't gonna get engates and public.
I was always going to run again. I had been
vice president. I was a professor full professor at the
University of Pennsylvania at the time. And what happened was
that I was going to stay out of it. But
then what happened was remember down in Charlottesville, Virginia, when
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those folks came out of the woods carrying torches and
Nazi banners and literally singing the same Nazi anyway, same
song sung in Germany in the thirties, and a young
woman was killed who was a bystander, and that young
woman I met. I talked to the mother, and the
press contacted Trump and asked him, They said, what do
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you think. He said, there were very good people on
both sides, very good people. And I asked the God,
That's why I decided to run. That's why I decided
to run.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This is the most coherent story.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
This is a guy that's rambling incoherently about being a
quote full professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
That's total lie, and then.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Regurgitates the very good people hoax that has been fact
checked and is also a lie, and he knows it's
a lie. So he's just lying on both issues, one
about his own resume when you're the president of the
United States of America, and so it's a disaster. This
is why the Democrats are clearly running now. Donald Trump
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has also said something else very interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Now. He is saying that Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Should immediately take a cognitive test, and I will go
with him and take one also for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We'll be a team and do it for the good
of the country.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And from now on, all presidents of kendidate should be
mandated to take a cognitive test and aptitude tests, regardless
of their age. That is what the president form. President
Trump is now saying. Let's immediately take the cognitive tests.
All presidential cancl do it, should do it. This is
something that no one should.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Be able to avoid.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
When he did this, it was a smart move because
he's again stepping up further by stating, look, he's not okay,
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Everyone should do this, regardless of age.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's not just Republicans, by the way, talking about Biden's
apparent decline in both mental acuity and physical stamina. Democrats
are saying it as well. So Trump is saying, all right,
I'll go along with you, right, Democrats across the border
actively requesting him to drop out of the presidential race,
begging him to pass the torch to somebody else. And
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we've all seen it. We've all witnessed it. I just
played it for you there. But Biden has remained, you know, defiant, right,
explaining that he would quote reduce the mounting fears by
letting them see me out there. That's their response, We're
not taking a cognitive test. You're gonna see me out there.
Trump calling on Biden to step up to the plate
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and taking cognitive test, offering to take one as well,
is a very smart political decision. It's a smart decision
because you know, Joe Biden's not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's just not We know he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He said, quote, I've taken three significant intense neurological exams
by neurologists. He then says that doctor say he's in
good shape. Do you believe President Biden? No, I don't
believe President Biden. I think he's lying to us, and
that's where these leaks continue to come in from the
people around him. So let's take another step back, okay
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and look at this again from where we are now.
Jim Cliburn, who's a very close friend to the president,
has even floated this idea now that the president's got time,
that Democrats have time until the ninth teenth of August
to open our convention and we have till then decide
if we're going to.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Keep him or not.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
James Cliburn said on the Today Show that he will
support Joe Biden's candidacy the Democratic Party right, and don't worry.
We've got until October the night or excuse me, August
nineteen to open it. So we're going to be fine.
But I want you to listen to even how this
is the guy that's supposed to be like one hundred
percent behind Joe Biden. He's even backing away from it.
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Here's him from the Today Show.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Let's start with this news conference last night. Again, the
news conference was supposed to allay concerns that a lot
of folks have, many of them within your own party,
about the president's ability to do the job. He starts
by confusing his vice president was former President Trump. That
was just a few hours after he confused President Putin
with President Zelensky.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Did he allay.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Those concerns last night?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, those of us who are real close watches of
Joe Biden, we do know that he sometimes mangle words
and phrases. But all of that is almost natural for
people who grew up stuttering, and they do focus a
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little more. And when you folks a little more, you
tend to use to lose the flow.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
But you're not saying that what we've seen from this
president of the last few weeks is just the folks
of him stuttering.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I mean that he doesn't study now. He is still
working to overcome the stutering of his childhood. I've been
around that condition for a long time, and I know
exactly how it operates, but he has one of the
best minds that I've ever been around, and the people
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who've been around him will tell you that. And so
I would hope that we will focus on the substance
of this man rather than these sometimes the misspoken words
and phrases and how he has run this country.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
But Congressman, you've got seventeen Democrats, seventeen Democrats, one of
them is sitting usador who have called on their president
to step aside. Former Speaker Nancy Policy two days ago saying, quote,
it's up to the president.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
To decide if he's going to run.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time
is running short. That is not a full throated endorsement
from your friend and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Should the
conversation about the president getting out of this race? Should
that conversation continue, No, it shouldn't. The conversation should be over.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
No, the conversation should focus on the record of this administration,
on the alternative to his election, and let Joe Biden
continue to make his own decisions about his truct He's
earned that right, and I am going to give him
that much respect. If he decides the changes behind later on,
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then we would respond to that we haven't the nineteenth
of August to open out a convention, and so I
would hope that we would spend our time now focusing
on the record that we would lay out for the
American people, remind the American people of what is in
store for them if probably twenty twenty five were to
become a law in any form. That is where our
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focus are.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Will be a congressman again, how how is this a candidate?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
How is this a candidate's candidacy?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Candidate that can remain viable if you literally have a
Democrat every day calling on him to drop out of
the race. Downvalid Democrats. So we are going to be
answering questions day in and day out about the president's
of mental acuity. How is that a How is that
a campaign that can be successful?
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Well, Joe Biden is focus on the future of this country,
and I always say the best predictor of future performance
is past behavior.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Jim Cliburn is like, well, don't judge the man by by.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
What he's doing. Look at his policies. Okay, we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
They're failures, but notice he's lowered the bar so low
to try to convince you that it's okay to support him.
That he's like, well, we know he's bad, we know
he mixed up mains, we know he's senile, but kind
of trust that the team around him has got everything covered.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So it'll actually be okay.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's the sales pitch you're giving on the Today Show. Now, granted,
he couldn't have imagined that the Today's Show would come
after him this hard, but yet this is exactly what
is happening. It's shocking, It is totally shocking. I'm going
to be at the convention. We're going to get a
lot of answers on a lot of this from the
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Republican side. Make sure that you listen to the podcast
every single day at the convention. Hit that subscriber download
auto download button. I'll see you back here tomorrow.
Let me start with number one, just so you guys
are prepared. We will be live at the convention all
next week. We have some very big interviews that are
lined up. You are not going to want to miss them.
So number one, make sure you download the Ben Ferguson
podcast every day of the convention. As I said, some
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very big interviews with some very very very big guests
will be joining me at the convention. So that is
number one. I just want to make sure you guys
have that programming note. Okay, now onto the big news,
and I'm going to give you kind of a recap
because I think it's important to talk about what's happened
over the last several days.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Before the quote big boy.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
Press conference, the President of the United States of America
did that interview with George Stepanopolis. That didn't work. It
didn't make everything better. That is when publicly you started
to see the Democratic Party really unravel publicly. They'd already
done it privately after the first debate, but the White
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House was like, hey, it was just.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
A bad night, give us a second chance.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
The second chance was the Stepanopolis interview that didn't stop
the bleeding. Democrats then started coming out and publicly saying
we want another candidate. Now, the reason why they did
that is because they don't want to lose power. That's
the whole ballgame here, and I think that's been pretty clear.
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After Stepanopolis happened. Not only did you have Democrats publicly
saying we need a new candidate, but then you had
the staff around the President of the United States of
America start to jump ship on him as well, and
that's when the dam really started to break.
Speaker 2 (01:50):
That is where we are right now.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
All right, You've got a situation now where the President
of the United States of America is losing his staff.
The leagues that are coming from inside the White House
are significant, and you're starting to lose cabinet members that
are now leaking about how they never see the president,
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they never meet with the president, they haven't had a
cabinet meeting in over eight months. When they do meet
with the president, they have to submit their questions beforehand,
and then they're being told how he's going to answer
and when he's going to answer, and to be ready
to answer these questions. So everything is scripted, nothing is real.
I have been very lucky in my career to be
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around presidents. I can tell you it doesn't work this way,
whether it was when I was working as a sagon
on the Bush campaign in two thousand and four, working
with the white House after that after we won that election,
whether it is around candidates that are running for the
presidency and having the meetings at the top level, you
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don't have submitting of questions at that level. My mentor
was former Secretary or say Attorney General John Ashcroft. I
can tell you don't not have meetings with the president
number one, and you don't have meetings that are scripted
the way that they've been described.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
This is not normal.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This has been done solely because of the cognitive decline
of Joe Biden. I've been around Donald Trump, in fact,
I was in the Oval days before his final State
of the Union, and this is not how that White
House worked either. I can tell you from people that
I know that worked with Bill Clinton, that worked with
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Barack Obama, this is not how it worked in any
white House. It is absurd to imply that this is
how it works. To the cabinet. Now we know that
this isn't, by the way normal. As much as the
White House tries to claim that this is somehow very normal.
And the reason why I say that is because it's
the actual cabinet members of Joe Biden's cabinet that are leaking. Now,
why would they be leaking. People have asked this quest
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of me, and I'm going to answer it quickly. They're
leaking because they don't want to lose their job as
a cabinet member. So they if they believe they're going
to lose, right, then they want another candidate so maybe
they can keep their job. The candidate that they seem
to all be coalescing around is the one that they
believe is the easiest one to replace the president, and
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that is Kamala Harris. It's not because she's necessarily the
best one. It's because she's the easiest one. Okay, That's
the real reason here, and people need to understand that
this is the real reason why.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
It is she's the easiest.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
She can keep the same campaign apparatus, which also, by
the way, means that everybody in the Biden campaign keeps
their job. It means that everybody at the White House
has a very good chance of keeping their jobs. It
means that everybody in the cabinet has a very good
chance of keeping their job or the best chance of
keeping their job. It is friendlies right among them, so
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they're trying to do this. Now here's the other thing.
I think there's a real chance now that the Democrats
in the cabinet are floating these stories out there that
they have not seen the president, that the President doesn't
talk to them, that they have to submit their questions right.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
The list goes on and on. And the reason why
they're doing this is.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Because I think they're actually looking at the real possibility
of the twenty fifth Amendment. And if they decided to
pull the twenty fifth Amendment on the President of the
United States of America, their boss who they're supposed to
serve at the privilege of they're going to get rid
of him that way, so then they can keep their
jobs in a cabinet with Kamala Harris, and that would
probably be the deal that they're making with Kamala right now.
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You also look at the top advisors of the president
that are leaking right now, and they keep saying things like,
we're really angry, we're really frustrated, We're trying to figure
out how to get him to come to a census.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
We're trying to get him to figure out how to
come together.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
We're trying to get him to understand this is what
he needs to do for the presidency, for the good
of the party.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
All that's crap.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This is also they keep their power because remember, every
one of them is out of a job if Joe
Biden loses to Donald Trump. This is about self preservation.
It's not about what's best for the country. It is
about self preservation. And that is the entire conversation that
they're having behind the scenes. Now I put all that
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together to then play the next part of them trying
to get rid of the president. We are now hearing
that donors are stopping the funds. They're saying, we're done
the funds, We're done with We're not going to release
any more of the money that we've pledged to the
President of the United States of America and Joe Biden's
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campaign because we want you gone.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
I want you to take a listen to when this
news broke.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Breaking this hour or New York Times reporting, donors have
told the largest pro Biden superpack that roughly ninety million
dollars in pledges are now frozen if Biden remains at
the top of the ticket, but this may only be
the beginning. Reports claim a coordinated Democratic rebellion is set
to unfold during a brutal forty eight hour stretch for Biden.
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An eighteenth Democrat lawmaker just called for Biden's exit ninety
minutes ago. Now we're learning that President Biden privately met
with White House Minority Leader Jeffreys after his solo press
conference last night, where he made several embarrassing mistakes on
the world stage.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
This is again all orchestrated, and they're now laying out
the plan, and you can watch the plan taking shape.
You have the money dry out, you have elected officials
come in and say we're done.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
You have.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Other elected officials start leaking, you have cabinet members start leaking,
you have everybody leak everything, and you just keep hammering
at him until he doesn't.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
See a pathway forward.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
This also is a strategy that is going to be
interesting because I don't think Joe Biden cares. I think
he's holding the Democratic Party hostage at this point, saying
if it ain't me, it ain't gonna be you either. Hey, Kamala,
you think you're gonna get this without me?
Speaker 2 (08:29):
You're wrong.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, everybody, all these elitists and donors like, I think
this guy is irrational and digging in. I think any
irrational person would look at what's happening right now and say, okay, hey,
I am too old, right.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
But he's not rational.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
He has Parkinson's or dementia or Alzheimer's or who knows
what the hell he's got. But it's clear that logic
is not going to work with him at all. President Trump,
by the way, capitalize on these massive mistakes. He was
asked on Clay and Buck Good Friend of Mine show
today about Biden's undoubtedly bad press conference and getting names wrong,
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for example, like he did when he was introducing Zolensky
and called him Putin. I want you to hear what
Donald Trump said on Klaimbucks show as he was talking
about the massive Zolensky slash Putin intro mistake. If you
missed it, it was cringeworthy. You had Joe Biden talking
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about Zelensky calling him Vladimir Putin.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Here's what Trump had to say about it. What's your takeaway?
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Because the New York Times and a lot of others
seem like they thought it could be the end, but
doesn't really seem like the end.
Speaker 5 (09:48):
Well, it's not the end for him, because when you
control the delegates, it's never the end. I mean, there's
nothing anybody can do. So as long as he wants
to continue doing this, he's going to be able to
do that to do anything else. But I thought the
worst part of the press conference was the moment during
the day when he introduced Zelenski and he introduced them
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as Vladimir Putin. That was not good. That was unpardonable.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
You can't do that.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
You know, there are things you can do, things you
can't do. Was a bad one. So he introduced them
as Putin, and then I guess somebody started screaming at him,
and he corrected as much as you can. You know,
that doesn't get corrected very easily. So he went in
there with the yips. I think he went into the
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press conference with the yips because, frankly, if he were
Winston Churchill, who was not bad at press conferences, by
the way, if he were Winston Churchill, his press conference
wasn't going to work out too well because of what
happened previous.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
By the way, I think Donald Trump's absolutely right there.
You noticed how Donald Trump's not really trying to pound
him that hard. Like you notice that like he understands.
Donald Trump gets it. He understands that he wants Joe
Biden to stay the nominee. And every day that goes by,
it is less likely that Donald Trump will have to
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run against Kamala Harris or whoever the hell else the
Democrats decided to put up, including people like Michelle Obama.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
Now, Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Also is in an interesting situation now as well. And
when I say an interesting situation, it's very interesting situation.
Donald Trump has got to pick a vice president. And
you're trying to pick a vice president, which is an
important pick. You pick your vice president obviously, it's someone
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that you believe can take over the job if something
happens to you, Right, that's number one that the people
would trust, that the people would get behind in your party,
and the people that are voting for you would like.
But you also pick a vice president based on what
they bring to the table. And you pick a vice
president many time I'm depending on looking at your opponent,
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like what do I need and a vice president? Right?
What does the other guy have that maybe I want
to be able to counter? Who am I running against
and what attributes would be a good counter to that
person and that team. Well, not knowing who you're running against, right,
you're running against Biden, but you may not be, it
makes it a lot harder to pick your vice president.
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And I'm sure Donald Trump has been holding out as
long as he has because like, all right, well, I
need to know who I'm running against and I need
to know what this looks like If it's Kamala, do
I change my vice president to pick? I think there's
a lot of arguments that you would based on who
the Democrats picked to go against you. Trump was asked
about that in his conversation with my buddies Clay and
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Buck Listen.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
Vice President, you've done a good job. I think of
creating a lot of different drama associated with who the
vice president is going to be. Can you tell us
have you made up your mind on your pick yet?
And second part of that, have you decided on how
the vice president is going to be announced?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
I'd love to do it during the convention. You know,
the Republican Convention is a big deal. In the old days,
they used to do it that way. Now technology makes
it more difficult. I say no, it's supposed to make
it easier. It makes it actually more difficult, if you
can believe it. But I'd love to do it during
the convention, which would be, you know, or just slightly
before the convention, like Monday. Love to do it on
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Tuesday or Wednesday actually, But for a lot of complex
reasons that you people understand, you pretty much don't do that.
And I have some really really good candidates, and you know,
maybe leaning one way and that changes sometimes, you know,
all of a sudden you see something that you like
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or you don't like, and you lean a little bit differently.
But we have some very good We have a very
good bench. We have a very good bench.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
How would you announce it? Do you call up everybody?
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Like?
Speaker 6 (14:00):
How many finalists would you say you have right now?
And is it like a job offer? Do you call
them up? Do you bring them in in person? Have
you thought about how you would convey that offer?
Speaker 5 (14:10):
It's like a highly sophisticated version of the Apprentice? Yeah, okay,
if you think about it. And they're great people, and
they're really good. I got to know them very well.
I'd say four people think you know four or five people,
but I got to know them very well. Some dropped
out over the course of they didn't drive, you know
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I had there were reasons why they wouldn't have done
as well.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
So it's still open though, Sir, you're telling us that
it's not necessarily a done deal in your mind.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Is that right? You're still thinking it over.
Speaker 5 (14:43):
I have no I'm going into great detail, but more ultimately,
it's more of an instinct. You know, you develop an instinct,
but I like to know all the facts before the
instinct kicks in. The people are fantastic, Like I watched
Jim Scott on television yesterday. He was fierce and great.
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He was great. I watched Marco over the weekend on television.
He was incredible. JD has been great. You have a
man named Bergham who's a fantastic governor in North Dakota.
And you know, it's a state that's very very pressed,
was very successful, and he's done.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
A good job there.
Speaker 5 (15:27):
You have you have some terrific people.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, if there's any takeaway from what you just heard
from Trumpet's this he wants the vice presidential announcement to
be big. He wants it to be a surprise. You
notice how he floated all those different names there, Right,
I like Bergham, I like JD, I like Marco. Right,
I mean the list, you know, I love you know,
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Tim Scott, And he went through that list. Now there
is a chance he's throwing us off on that list.
And there's another name in there that is on a
list but hasn't been talked about a lot to shock everybody.
Speaker 2 (16:01):
Could he do that, Absolutely he could.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
But the President wants this to be a made for
RNC convention excitement. He wants to excite the delegates. He
wants to control the media cycle. He wants this to
not come out in a leak. And I don't think
he's made up his mind that he said, probably to anybody.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Maybe in his head he's made up his mind.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
But I guarantee you right now, outside of him, like
no one else knows what the hell's going on. And
he's doing that on purpose, which is by the way,
very very very smart. Now, I want to move over
to two other things that are important that Donald Trump
talked about. He talked about like how bad it is
to be Biden right now and how everybody's turning on
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Joe Biden. And notice his demeanor when he's talking about this.
He was asked, for example, about George Clooney. Listen, do
you think.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
Barack Obama is behind trying to push out Joe Biden
at all? Do you follow kind of this palace intrigue.
It's really kind of wild. In the two weeks since
you knocked him out in the debate, I mean, they
have just spun completely out of control. And I've been
reading the Barack Obama George Clooney comes out and says, hey,
you got to drop out. Can you believe how much
of a dumpster fire they are right now?
Speaker 5 (17:11):
Well, I thought George Clooney was very disloyal, because whether
you like Biden or not, you know, he's been nice
to Cloney. I thought it was very disloyal, backstabber, third
rate movie actor. He was a television actor and never
made really a good movie, and so he's sort of
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third rate. He goes as a movie actor at pluck Gable,
he's not. And you know, but I thought it was.
I thought it was a great actor of disloyalty.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
And you hear him there. He does what Trump does
so well.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
Right, he starts kind of ripping on Clooney, making the
little jabs there, talking about how I'm loyal. And then
you go to the Obama's, all right, what about them?
Are they undermining him?
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Right now? Joe Biden.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Obama hates Biden, and Biden hates Obama. We know that
because that's been for a long time.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
You remember, you guys, remember your.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
Perfect age for us. But Hillary Obama wanted Hillary, not Biden,
and Biden never forgot that they hate each other. You
remember when I said that Bush and Marco had a
lot of problems together and they said, no, no, no,
we get along, we get along. I said, no, you
don't get along. You don't get along. And two debates in,
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and by the way, Marco is doing very well, I
will tell you, But two debates in they started really
going at it. I said, I told you. And if
you remember the famous debates, we had those great debates,
the Republican debates actually among the greatest ever. But I said,
I told you when they started going at it, well,
these two hate each other. There's no question about that.
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And why wouldn't Why wouldn't Biden hate because you know,
he really passed in a more prime time period.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
I mean, what a gift like this is such a gift,
It really is it is a gift that you should
just smile and you should laugh if you're Donald Trump,
because it is a dumpster fire, like a true authentic
dumpster fire. Within the Democratic Party, they're all trying to
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eat each other. It's survival of the fittest right.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
They're all trying to figure.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Out how to get rid of a guy that can
ruin their careers, who, by the way, gave them in
many ways their careers.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
And I'm like, all right, we're done with you, old man,
see you later.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
So if you are looking at this from a conservative standpoint,
there's great things to be excited over. And then there's
the concern over things are so bad for Joe Biden
that we may not even get to run against him.
I want Joe Biden to stay the nominee. I want
Joe Biden to be the guy that I'm voting against
on election day. Democrats realize how out of control this
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has gotten, and now they are just doing everything that
they can to undermine the president.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Let me give you another example.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer went on how it was one
of the late night shows.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
I don't watch them anymore. They suck.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
But she was on one this week, and she started
to kind of like, you know, pander and realize like, hey,
the writing's on the wall.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
It was a problem.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
And Michigan Governor Whitmore, we now have been told, will
not attend Biden's Michigan appearance. And Senator Gary Peters, a
steadfast Biden supporter, and another representative who's by the way,
vying for Michigan's open Senate seats.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
So they're like all in right now.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
They will also now be absent from Joe Biden's appearance
in Michigan, which is a state that you got to
win to win the presidency if you're a Democrat.
Speaker 2 (20:54):
I think if you look at.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
The math, this is an event, by the way, that
was supposed to be like hey, we're all united, right, Well,
so they're gone. That's the governor gone, number one. You've
got Senator Gary Peters, a step past Biden supporter gone.
You've got another congressperson who's gone, who's actually vying for
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Michigan's open Senate seat. They don't want to be on
stage with him, they don't want to be with him,
they don't want to be around him.
Speaker 2 (21:21):
Joe Biden is now toxic all right.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
We also know, and this is a very interesting point,
that the United Auto Workers president is traveling for quote
a conference and won't attend either. He doesn't want to
be on stage with the President of the United States
of America. So what they're telling you is that Joe
Biden is kryptonite and we don't want to be around
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sleepy Joe Biden, and the Democrats internal polling must be
dismal to appear with him on stage. So they're all
now lying and making up reasons why they're not there. Now. Look,
the other thing that the president's having to do now
is have a quote, vigorous schedule.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right, I'm out there, I'm campaigning.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
He had an event in Michigan Friday afternoon and creepy
Joe Biden got distracted as he was rambling in Michigan,
and I want you to hear what he said.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And this is the reason why Democrats are running.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
And I think when Debbie and I well, just last
three years, I think we've made a lot of progress.
Speaker 8 (22:25):
We made a lot of progress.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Remember everybody, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 5 (22:29):
How old are you?
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Remember?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
No?
Speaker 7 (22:32):
Serious, guys, you're thirty.
Speaker 8 (22:33):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (22:34):
So it's my daughter and grandad hadn't worked yet, but
I'm working on it.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
But anyway, I mean, he just stopped what he says
when he's seeing this like thirteen year old little girl,
and he's like, Hi, how old are you?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's so creepy. It's not normal.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
And then he goes back to his you know, so anyway, right,
we'll go to this other thing. Biden also got very
dazed and confused and started rambling at the same event.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
It was on TV. Here's what it sounded like.
Speaker 7 (23:03):
And so I decided I wasn't gonna get engates and public.
I was always going to run again. I had been
vice president. I was a professor full professor at the
University of Pennsylvania at the time. And what happened was
that I was going to stay out of it. But
then what happened was remember down in Charlottesville, Virginia, when
(23:24):
those folks came out of the woods carrying torches and
Nazi banners and literally singing the same Nazi anyway, same
song sung in Germany in the thirties, and a young
woman was killed who was a bystander, and that young
woman I met. I talked to the mother, and the
press contacted Trump and asked him, They said, what do
(23:48):
you think. He said, there were very good people on
both sides, very good people. And I asked the God,
That's why I decided to run. That's why I decided
to run.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
This is the most coherent story.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
This is a guy that's rambling incoherently about being a
quote full professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
That's total lie, and then.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
Regurgitates the very good people hoax that has been fact
checked and is also a lie, and he knows it's
a lie. So he's just lying on both issues, one
about his own resume when you're the president of the
United States of America, and so it's a disaster. This
is why the Democrats are clearly running now. Donald Trump
(24:33):
has also said something else very interesting.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
Now. He is saying that Joe.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Should immediately take a cognitive test, and I will go
with him and take one also for the first time.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
We'll be a team and do it for the good
of the country.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
And from now on, all presidents of kendidate should be
mandated to take a cognitive test and aptitude tests, regardless
of their age. That is what the president form. President
Trump is now saying. Let's immediately take the cognitive tests.
All presidential cancl do it, should do it. This is
something that no one should.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Be able to avoid.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
When he did this, it was a smart move because
he's again stepping up further by stating, look, he's not okay,
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Everyone should do this, regardless of age.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
It's not just Republicans, by the way, talking about Biden's
apparent decline in both mental acuity and physical stamina. Democrats
are saying it as well. So Trump is saying, all right,
I'll go along with you, right, Democrats across the border
actively requesting him to drop out of the presidential race,
begging him to pass the torch to somebody else. And
(25:45):
we've all seen it. We've all witnessed it. I just
played it for you there. But Biden has remained, you know, defiant, right,
explaining that he would quote reduce the mounting fears by
letting them see me out there. That's their response, We're
not taking a cognitive test. You're gonna see me out there.
Trump calling on Biden to step up to the plate
(26:06):
and taking cognitive test, offering to take one as well,
is a very smart political decision. It's a smart decision
because you know, Joe Biden's not gonna do it.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He's just not We know he's not gonna do it.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
He said, quote, I've taken three significant intense neurological exams
by neurologists. He then says that doctor say he's in
good shape. Do you believe President Biden? No, I don't
believe President Biden. I think he's lying to us, and
that's where these leaks continue to come in from the
people around him. So let's take another step back, okay
(26:45):
and look at this again from where we are now.
Jim Cliburn, who's a very close friend to the president,
has even floated this idea now that the president's got time,
that Democrats have time until the ninth teenth of August
to open our convention and we have till then decide
if we're going to.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Keep him or not.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
James Cliburn said on the Today Show that he will
support Joe Biden's candidacy the Democratic Party right, and don't worry.
We've got until October the night or excuse me, August
nineteen to open it. So we're going to be fine.
But I want you to listen to even how this
is the guy that's supposed to be like one hundred
percent behind Joe Biden. He's even backing away from it.
(27:29):
Here's him from the Today Show.
Speaker 9 (27:32):
Let's start with this news conference last night. Again, the
news conference was supposed to allay concerns that a lot
of folks have, many of them within your own party,
about the president's ability to do the job. He starts
by confusing his vice president was former President Trump. That
was just a few hours after he confused President Putin
with President Zelensky.
Speaker 2 (27:50):
Did he allay.
Speaker 9 (27:51):
Those concerns last night?
Speaker 8 (27:53):
Well, those of us who are real close watches of
Joe Biden, we do know that he sometimes mangle words
and phrases. But all of that is almost natural for
people who grew up stuttering, and they do focus a
(28:15):
little more. And when you folks a little more, you
tend to use to lose the flow.
Speaker 9 (28:20):
But you're not saying that what we've seen from this
president of the last few weeks is just the folks
of him stuttering.
Speaker 8 (28:25):
I mean that he doesn't study now. He is still
working to overcome the stutering of his childhood. I've been
around that condition for a long time, and I know
exactly how it operates, but he has one of the
best minds that I've ever been around, and the people
(28:46):
who've been around him will tell you that. And so
I would hope that we will focus on the substance
of this man rather than these sometimes the misspoken words
and phrases and how he has run this country.
Speaker 9 (29:02):
But Congressman, you've got seventeen Democrats, seventeen Democrats, one of
them is sitting usador who have called on their president
to step aside. Former Speaker Nancy Policy two days ago saying, quote,
it's up to the president.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
To decide if he's going to run.
Speaker 9 (29:15):
We're all encouraging him to make that decision because time
is running short. That is not a full throated endorsement
from your friend and former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Should the
conversation about the president getting out of this race? Should
that conversation continue, No, it shouldn't. The conversation should be over.
Speaker 8 (29:34):
No, the conversation should focus on the record of this administration,
on the alternative to his election, and let Joe Biden
continue to make his own decisions about his truct He's
earned that right, and I am going to give him
that much respect. If he decides the changes behind later on,
(29:57):
then we would respond to that we haven't the nineteenth
of August to open out a convention, and so I
would hope that we would spend our time now focusing
on the record that we would lay out for the
American people, remind the American people of what is in
store for them if probably twenty twenty five were to
become a law in any form. That is where our
(30:20):
focus are.
Speaker 9 (30:20):
Will be a congressman again, how how is this a candidate?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
How is this a candidate's candidacy?
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (30:26):
Candidate that can remain viable if you literally have a
Democrat every day calling on him to drop out of
the race. Downvalid Democrats. So we are going to be
answering questions day in and day out about the president's
of mental acuity. How is that a How is that
a campaign that can be successful?
Speaker 8 (30:43):
Well, Joe Biden is focus on the future of this country,
and I always say the best predictor of future performance
is past behavior.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Jim Cliburn is like, well, don't judge the man by by.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
What he's doing. Look at his policies. Okay, we'll do that.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
They're failures, but notice he's lowered the bar so low
to try to convince you that it's okay to support him.
That he's like, well, we know he's bad, we know
he mixed up mains, we know he's senile, but kind
of trust that the team around him has got everything covered.
Speaker 2 (31:20):
So it'll actually be okay.
Speaker 1 (31:23):
That's the sales pitch you're giving on the Today Show. Now, granted,
he couldn't have imagined that the Today's Show would come
after him this hard, but yet this is exactly what
is happening. It's shocking, It is totally shocking. I'm going
to be at the convention. We're going to get a
lot of answers on a lot of this from the
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