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Speaker 1 (00:01):
I am here in Milwaukee, and I can tell you
two things that are a fact. I have never seen
the Republican Party as focused as it is right now.
I have never seen the Republican Party as united as
it is right now. I am also here in Milwaukee,
and I can tell you I've never seen the Democratic
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Party in such disarray. I have never seen the Democratic
Party ever be at a point where they're actually trying
to figure out how to delay their convention with all
the planning that goes into a convention, so they can
have more time to convince Joe Biden to get out
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and say I am no longer going to be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have also never seen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The Democratic Party fight so publicly. Usually they fight and
decide what's going to happen behind the scenes, and they
come out united. The wheels have come off the Democratic Party.
I have never seen the Big Five coalesce behind a
decision to actually get rid of the President of the
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United States of America who is a Democrat in their party.
The five families we've now been told have been pushing
meeting and talking with Joe Biden behind the scenes, and
his family telling him he cannot win.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is going to lose, and his.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Legacy is going to be that he lost, and he
could have stopped this from happening by dropping out of
the race and given them a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Who are the big five? Nancy Pelosi, the Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Family, the Schumer family, the Clinton family, the Obama family.
Those are the ones that are really in his face
right now. Schumer, as you know, the Senate Majority leader,
a dear friend and ally to Joe Biden for decades,
as they serve together for decades in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They are friends.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Chuck Schumer has come out and made it very clear
that there is no way and said this apparently from
what we've been told from multiple sources, met with the
president and said you cannot win and shared internal polling.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nancy Pelosi has done the same.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Hillary and Bill Clinton have done the same, The Obamas
have done the same. And now we're being told that
the leader of the Democratic Party in the House, Jeffries,
has also done this. So the five families of the
Democratic Party, the most powerful you could argue, five families
in the Democratic Party have all organized and coalesced to
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get rid of the president of the United States of America.
That is incredible MSNBC this morning had this report about
Democrats are also warning by not only could this be
his legacy, but they could actually hurt, could actually hurt
the entire day Democratic ticket, begging with him to step down,
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begging with him to stop, begging with him, begging that
he would please not destroy the Democratic Party. And the
Democrats have also coalesced to dry up the money.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This is all about cash now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They are stopping the funds going into the Biden campaign
weeks before the convention, which is incredible, It is shocking,
and it is incredible, and they are stopping the money
and everything else. I want to go to your phone
calls the number five three five nine seven three two
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Speaker 2 (03:41):
Listen to Morning Joe this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Hit us up to datough with what's happening in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Also what you're hearing from the Biden campaign. Yeah, we'll
start with the Biden campaign, Joe, And exactly right about
the sequencing. So on your I talked about the fact
three weeks ago that there was an effort among top
Democrats to give President Biden the chance to walk off
the stage. They said, he is proud, he's stubborn. We
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love him, we appreciate him. We want to give him
the chance to walk off the stage. President Biden, in
the view of these top Democrats, did not take the
hint and the way that one top Democrat, someone very
close to the West wing, put it to me Sunday
as I sat here on the floor of this hall
with my laptop doing reporting at the Republican Convention about
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what was happening in the Democratic Party. They said, we
don't want to humiliate him.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That was the effort. Then we saw this sequence.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yesterday and is my brilliant colleague Zach Bossu puts it
at the top of the axios this morning. President Biden
is now self isolating, both medically and politically with COVID.
Now he had given the sequences, he had said we
could get him out.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Of the race.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The President had said the Lord Almighty. Then he said
data pulling the show that I couldn't win.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Then he said health.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Then privately is reporting saying that he's being told that
Vice President Harris can win. So all his boxes now
are checked. One more thing about Vice President Harris, a
very specific plan for her to run. Democrats are going
to be able to start fast, would be able to
start fast with her. If they go that way, one,
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she instantly makes Row the center of the race. Very
important to Democrats, the fall of Row Dobbs versus democracy
as they have put it. Second, the way that Democrats
cleverly put it is that now age and fitness would
become the Republicans problem, the Republicans issue if she were
the nominee. And third, they would frame it as prosecutor
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as she was in my home state of California elected
DA San Francisco former attorney general versus convicted fella. But
as Ryan Nobles was saying, the president has to choose this.
He has the delegates, the statements yesterday from both the
campaign and the White House. He is the nominee or
soon will be. They can't take it from him. He
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has to make that choice.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I mean, this reporting is rarely do I sit here
and not want to interrupt. I didn't want to interrupt
any of MSNBC. There they are telling you that they
hate Joe Biden and that they have already figured out
how Kamala Harris would win and how to make her
the nominee, and if he would just step aside and
stop being a selfish senile sob that we've been protecting
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for the last three years. He was the same selfish
soob right. It was also c nile that they were
trying to hide, telling us that he that no one
can keep up with Joe Biden, that Joe Biden's faster
and quicker and smarter than everybody else, that Joe Biden
is the man, that Joe Biden is a vibrant We
all knew it was a lie, and then the entire
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country and the world saw it during the last debate.
But you look at this way they framed it. This
is like a something you stick on a tombstone, folks.
He's self isolating both medically and politically, is what they
said on MSNBC. Like, I mean, I'm waiting for the
breaking news banner Joe Biden dead politically, right, Like Joe
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Biden has died politically, it's they're writing his obituary right
now on MSNBC. Both again, Joe Biden is self isolating
both medically and politically. Like like if I was Joe
Biden and I was I was isolated, and I saw
that at MSBC, I actually might wake up from a
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n app and like call somebody and be angry like that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It might actually get me excited, like I'm not dead yet.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Y'all, Like, well, politically you are, sir, like you are politically.
I can't you see Joe Scarborough saying that to him,
like you're done, You're finished. Like they're losing their minds
in the Democratic Party now. I will say this, I've
never seen the Republicans as united as we are now
at convention. I've never witnessed this in my entire political career.
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I have never seen the Democratic Party turning the way
that they're turning. Representative Joyce Beattie was on NBC and
I want you to hear what she had to say
about Joe Biden, and she's still trying to defend him.
Like the group of people that's willing to go on
TV to defend Joe Biden is getting smaller and smaller,
not by the day, but by the hour.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Listen joining us now.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Is the former chair of the Congressional Back Black Caucus,
Congressoman Joyce.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Beatty of Ohio.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
She is a national advisory board member for the Biden
Harris campaign. And Jonathan Lemire has the first question.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Jonathan, Congressman, thanks for joining us this morning. Let me
pose the question to you, very similar the one the
president just received. We know at least Pole suggests, to
this point in the race, black voters have not been
there with the same kind of numbers or enthusiasm for
Joe Biden as they were four years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What can be done?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
What concrete steps can be done to turn that around?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
All, let me just say thank you, and I think
we're doing that right now. We're telling not just Black America,
but we're telling all of America the work that Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris have done. You can pick a topic.
You can talk about our economy, you can talk about
education and health care. They've been leading and for Black Americans.
President Biden kept his word on every promise he made.
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He told us we'd have a black woman on the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He told us that he.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Would stand up for education, and he put the most
money into HBCUs than.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Any other president.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
We could talk about our children or our seniors. More
than fifty percent of our children are now out of poverty,
and we're protecting our seniors. If you just look at
what he did to cap insulin at thirty five dollars
a month or to out of pocket expenses for medical
supplies prescriptions to two thousand dollars. He meets with the
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Congressional Black Caucus. We've done more when you talk about
criminal justice and keeping our communities safe with this president.
So I think we have to tell our stories and
you have to look at it. It's still early in
some ways.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Voters start really.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
Coming out in September.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
In October.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
We know how many black voters go to the polls
on election day.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So we're still all in.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
And I can tell you as a member and char
Emerita of the Congressional Black Caucus, I'm all the way
with Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now she says she's all in with Joe Biden, and then.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
She's asked a question. You know what she says, until
he tells me otherwise. So you're on his campaign, you're
an advisor, you're of the Black Caucus, and you're now
changing your line from I'm all into I'm all in
with Joe Biden dot dot dot until he tells me otherwise.
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So even the people that are his advisors on his
campaign are now looking at the real possibility that we're
gonna get rid of Joe Biden. So let's talk about
this strategy by the way by Democrats to delay their convention.
The reason why the tactic you need to understand is
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once they lock in Joe Biden, and Joe Biden officially
takes the nomination and the delegates at the convention, then
the chances of replacing him drop astronomically. And the options
right now and the power structure, and I'll go over
this very quickly because it's important to understand how this
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could work. So the power right now is all the delegates.
They have all the power. Okay, the power right now
to get a different candidate is in their hands at
the convention. But as soon as the convention is over,
they have zero power, like not even one percent power,
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zero power. It gets much more complicated at that point.
To get rid of Joe Biden. There's two ways you
can do it. One, you could have a twenty fifth
amendment that is invoked by the cabinet where they could
actually say we believe you're unfit and we're going to
take you out. That's option number one. Number two you
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could have then the people that are members of the
Democratic National Committee. Each state has members who could then
come together and pick the candidate that would be chaotic.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I believe, based on the timeline, that the only real
person at this moment that can take over is Kamala Harris.
I think they could have parachuted in Michelle Obama from
what I'm being told, I think she doesn't want any
part of this, especially after.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
The assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So she doesn't want to be a part of this
disaster dumpster fire that the Democratic Party has right now.
Could that change, of course, Kamala Harris is a clear choice.
I just played for you that MSNBC clip from earlier
where they're already talking about like, hey, she's got the money,
she's got the staff.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She would be an easy fixed on Roe v. Wade.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That would be the center point of the campaign, women's rights,
as you, she would fire up minority voters. I mean,
they're selling it, and the sales pitch is pretty solid.
There doesn't seem to be as much as the Democrats
really don't like her, any real push for any other
candid but Kamala, because I think they under stand she's
the only one that has the time and the campaign staff,
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because she would keep everybody that Biden has on the team.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And they would immediately move forward with that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I believe she is the person at this moment,
very very very very very clearly. Okay, like very clearly.
That's number one, number two here. Even the Democrats are
supposed to be the protectors of Joe Biden are not
protecting him. Joyce quote, I'm all in video, who's a
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black caucus? Okay, I'm all in with Joe Biden until
he tells me otherwise. But there's a lot of other
people on TV that are saying the otherwise. Is it's
it's over right? Like it's over.
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the patients of Democrats waiting on Joe Biden to drop out.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, and look, Joe, I mean, yes, so yesterday, as
you said, all those people ducks in a row, Adam
Schiff a close Pelosi ally certainly with her blast thing.
First we had heard the elaked thing about how he
had a fundraiser over the weekend, has said he thought
Biden would lose. That he came out yesterday with the
La Times and announced it would be probably the most
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prominent Democrats so far, almost certain soon to be senator
from California, formerhead of the House Intelligence Committee, came out
and said that he wanted Biden to step aside. And then,
in rapid succession, word coming out that Haakim Jeffries had
had a tough meeting with Biden last Friday, that Schumer
had had a meeting on Saturday, and then last night
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again not coincidentally, the almost the moment that Jade Vance
finished speaking Abby Phillips, the CNN broke the news that
Nancy Pelosi had the same conversation with Biden. I believe
it's possible she's had that conversation with Biden more than once,
in fact, since last Thursday.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And none of this is a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
This is what it looks like when the Democratic leadership
still trying to get Joe Biden to do what they
believe is the right thing for the party, which is
to step aside. Still trying to only go private, go
go public in a kind of oblique way, not calling
a press conference, not issuing anything formal. But they are
their patiences is now exhausted. They have looked at these
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numbers and then come back to the money Joe. Jeffer
Katzenberg has devoted a lot of his professional life to
try to get Joe Biden into the White House, to
getting Joe Biden. In twenty twenty, he raised more money
for Joe Biden. Call told back in twenty twenty than
any other person. He's raised more money for Joe Biden collectively,
pulling all these people together, the big Hollywood fundraisers, and
he's a campaign co chairman.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Jeffrey Katzenberg.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, he went to Biden yesterday and said the big
dollar donors are done effectively I'm paraphrasing, but we can
still raise money at the grassroots but that means about
half of the money that we were expecting for the
fall we are not going to have. Joe Biden has
had a significant financial advantage over Donald Trump for the
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first half of this year, as we all know, and
this goes a little bit of our discussion we've been
having about polling.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They have spent one hundreds.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Of millions dollars already in the battleground states. And one
of the things that worries again Democrats and some of
the president's people is that they've spent a lot of
money in those battleground states and have not moved his
numbers very much. While the Trump campaign has not had
very much money.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
They're now telling you that money can't save Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's damning, folks, That is damning.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One other thing I'll say about this, Van Jones said
last night on CNN, quote, a bullet couldn't stop Trump,
A virus stopped Joe Biden. They want him gone. So
let's talk about last night's speeches. Okay, this is incredible
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for me and jd Vance had a speech last night
and it was a speech.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That a lot of kind of criticized this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Just so you know, they've criticized this speech because they
thought it wasn't a lot of energy. It was one
of those speeches that Minie said, Hey, I think this
is pretty like bland speech. Giving a speech two days
after you've been gotting the phone call that you're the
vice presidential of Canada is intimidating. And do I think
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it could have been punched up a little bit more
being in the room last night, Yes, I think you
could see that on Donald Trump's face a.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Little bit as well. I'm not gonna lie to you, guys.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm also not a cheerleader when I see somebody out
there that you know, I wanted him to kill it.
I think it was a six and a half seven
out of ten. Do I think it's going to hurt
the ticket?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No? Do Am I worried about him picking him now?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I also think he's better in debates than he is
at speeches, So all I care about is the VP debate.
But there were also some incredible moments in his speech
which I if you miss this, I wanted you to
hear it because I love the story of Jdvans. I
love the history of Jdvans, I love the addiction aspect
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of the overcoming with his mom and his grandmother raising him.
But there was one part in the speech last night
that was truly incredible, and that was this moment in
our movement.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, it's about grandparents all across this country
who are living on Social Security and raising grandchildren they
didn't expect to raise. And while we're on the topic
of grandparents, let me tell you another mammal story. And
my mamma died shortly before I left for Iraq in
two thousand and five. And when we went through things,
we found nineteen loaded handguns.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They were.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Now The thing is, they were stashed all over her house,
under her bed, in her closet, in the silverware drawer,
and we wondered what was going on. And it occurred
to us that towards the end of her life, mamma
couldn't get around so well. And so this real old
woman made sure that no matter where she was, she
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was with an arm's length of whatever she needed to
protect her family.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's who we fight for.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
That's American spirit.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That for me, was the highlight of JD. Vance's speech
last night. I thought it was an incredible moment. I
thought it was one that made people love him, his family,
his story. It was one of those moments that I
think people will remember. And look, there's some people that
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may have heard that in thought to themselves, Hey, that's ridiculous.
No grandmother who wanted to protect at all costs her
the person that she loved the most, the people that
she loved the most. There was also another really cool
point of last night, and that was Jade Vance's wife
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coming out on stage.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
She's not a political person.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
She is a mother firsts a wife, and she stepped
up on the stage. This is not her thing to
be a public speaker. And I always feel bad for
people that are expected to do amazing things on the
stage when it's just not what they do.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They do they're not trained for it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Spouses and politics are treated like they are supposed to
be as good as their husband or their wife, and
I don't think that's fair. And there were people last
night that I hope she didn't screw this up. I
thought that Jade Vance's wife did an amazing job introducing
her husband to the world because there's a lot of
people that were going to watch JD for the very
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very first time.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I want you to hear her introduction, Good.
Speaker 10 (24:14):
Evening, Good evening. When I was asked to introduce my
husband JD vance to all of you, I was at
a loss. What could I say that hasn't already been
said before? After all, the man was already the subject
of Ron Howard movie. JD has shared much of his
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life through his own eloquent words in his book He'll
Billy Elogy. During his Senate campaign and now as a
City United States Senator, it occurred to me that there
was only one thing to do, to explain from the
heart why I love and admire JD and stand here
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beside him today, and why he will make a great
Vice President of the United States. I met JD in
law school when he was fresh out of Ohio State,
which he attended with the support of the GI Bill.
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We were friends first, because I mean, who wouldn't want
to be friends with JD. He was then as now,
the most interesting person I knew, A working class guy
who had overcome childhood traumas that I could barely fathom
to end up at Yale Law School, a tough marine
who had served in Iraq, but whose idea of a
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good time was playing with puppies. And watching the movie Babe,
the most determined person I knew, with one overriding ambition
to become a husband and a father, and to build
the kind of tight knit family that he had longed
for as a child. My background is very different from JD's.
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I grew up in San Diego, in a middle class community,
with two loving parents, both immigrants from India, and a
wonderful sister that Jad and I could meet at all,
let alone fall in love and Mary is a testament
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to this great country. It is also a testament to JD,
and it tells you something about who he is. When
JD met me, he approached our differences with curiosity and enthusiasm.
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He wanted to know everything about me, where I came from,
what my life had been like. Although he's a meat
and potatoes kind of guy, he adapted to my vegetarian
diet and learned to cook food from my mother Indian food.
Before I knew it, he had become an integral part
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of my family, a person I could not meant could
not imagine living without. The JD I knew then is
the same JD you see today, except for that beard
and his goals in this new role are the same
that he has pursued for our family, to keep people safe,
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to create opportunities, to build a better life, and to
solve problems with an open mind. It's safe to say
that neither JD nor I expected to find ourselves in
this position. But it's hard to imagine a more powerful
example of the American dream a boy from Middletown, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know, I got to say that I thought that
her explaining who he is and explaining what he stands
for and where he came from was one of the
most powerful moments of the night from someone that's like, look,
I married him, I love him, I want to support him,
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And it was very real. It came across very authentic,
I think in the hall, and I think it translated
on TV. It excited me for his family and the
story of where he came from is an important one.
It's going to relate to many different people, and I
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got to say that was one of my highlights I
think last night in the convention hall, was listening to
her introduce her husband that she's clearly so proud of
and the father of our children is so proud of.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
These are the type of stories that I think we
as conservatives need to just enjoy and be excited at
the age of JD.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Van's and mean, he's younger than I am, for goodness sakes.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And I never get to say that, and I just
I'm rooting for them. I love the fact that he
is this type of individual with small kids that can
relate to the family's real issues in America today, whether
it's public education, whether it's just paying for things with kids,
the cost of living, these are things that he brings
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the ticket because of his age and his wife and
their family.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That is incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
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Speaker 5 (29:55):
And we will see you back here tomorrow
I am here in Milwaukee, and I can tell you
two things that are a fact. I have never seen
the Republican Party as focused as it is right now.
I have never seen the Republican Party as united as
it is right now. I am also here in Milwaukee,
and I can tell you I've never seen the Democratic
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Party in such disarray. I have never seen the Democratic
Party ever be at a point where they're actually trying
to figure out how to delay their convention with all
the planning that goes into a convention, so they can
have more time to convince Joe Biden to get out
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and say I am no longer going to be the nominee.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have also never seen.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
The Democratic Party fight so publicly. Usually they fight and
decide what's going to happen behind the scenes, and they
come out united. The wheels have come off the Democratic Party.
I have never seen the Big Five coalesce behind a
decision to actually get rid of the President of the
(01:11):
United States of America who is a Democrat in their party.
The five families we've now been told have been pushing
meeting and talking with Joe Biden behind the scenes, and
his family telling him he cannot win.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
He is going to lose, and his.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Legacy is going to be that he lost, and he
could have stopped this from happening by dropping out of
the race and given them a chance.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Who are the big five? Nancy Pelosi, the Pelosi.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Family, the Schumer family, the Clinton family, the Obama family.
Those are the ones that are really in his face
right now. Schumer, as you know, the Senate Majority leader,
a dear friend and ally to Joe Biden for decades,
as they serve together for decades in the Senate.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
They are friends.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Chuck Schumer has come out and made it very clear
that there is no way and said this apparently from
what we've been told from multiple sources, met with the
president and said you cannot win and shared internal polling.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Nancy Pelosi has done the same.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Hillary and Bill Clinton have done the same, The Obamas
have done the same. And now we're being told that
the leader of the Democratic Party in the House, Jeffries,
has also done this. So the five families of the
Democratic Party, the most powerful you could argue, five families
in the Democratic Party have all organized and coalesced to
(02:40):
get rid of the president of the United States of America.
That is incredible MSNBC this morning had this report about
Democrats are also warning by not only could this be
his legacy, but they could actually hurt, could actually hurt
the entire day Democratic ticket, begging with him to step down,
(03:03):
begging with him to stop, begging with him, begging that
he would please not destroy the Democratic Party. And the
Democrats have also coalesced to dry up the money.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
This is all about cash now.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
They are stopping the funds going into the Biden campaign
weeks before the convention, which is incredible, It is shocking,
and it is incredible, and they are stopping the money
and everything else. I want to go to your phone
calls the number five three five nine seven three two
five three five nine seven three two.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
Listen to Morning Joe this morning.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Hit us up to datough with what's happening in Milwaukee.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
Also what you're hearing from the Biden campaign. Yeah, we'll
start with the Biden campaign, Joe, And exactly right about
the sequencing. So on your I talked about the fact
three weeks ago that there was an effort among top
Democrats to give President Biden the chance to walk off
the stage. They said, he is proud, he's stubborn. We
(04:12):
love him, we appreciate him. We want to give him
the chance to walk off the stage. President Biden, in
the view of these top Democrats, did not take the
hint and the way that one top Democrat, someone very
close to the West wing, put it to me Sunday
as I sat here on the floor of this hall
with my laptop doing reporting at the Republican Convention about
(04:36):
what was happening in the Democratic Party. They said, we
don't want to humiliate him.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
That was the effort. Then we saw this sequence.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Yesterday and is my brilliant colleague Zach Bossu puts it
at the top of the axios this morning. President Biden
is now self isolating, both medically and politically with COVID.
Now he had given the sequences, he had said we
could get him out.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
Of the race.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
The President had said the Lord Almighty. Then he said
data pulling the show that I couldn't win.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Then he said health.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Then privately is reporting saying that he's being told that
Vice President Harris can win. So all his boxes now
are checked. One more thing about Vice President Harris, a
very specific plan for her to run. Democrats are going
to be able to start fast, would be able to
start fast with her. If they go that way, one,
(05:36):
she instantly makes Row the center of the race. Very
important to Democrats, the fall of Row Dobbs versus democracy
as they have put it. Second, the way that Democrats
cleverly put it is that now age and fitness would
become the Republicans problem, the Republicans issue if she were
the nominee. And third, they would frame it as prosecutor
(05:59):
as she was in my home state of California elected
DA San Francisco former attorney general versus convicted fella. But
as Ryan Nobles was saying, the president has to choose this.
He has the delegates, the statements yesterday from both the
campaign and the White House. He is the nominee or
soon will be. They can't take it from him. He
(06:20):
has to make that choice.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I mean, this reporting is rarely do I sit here
and not want to interrupt. I didn't want to interrupt
any of MSNBC. There they are telling you that they
hate Joe Biden and that they have already figured out
how Kamala Harris would win and how to make her
the nominee, and if he would just step aside and
stop being a selfish senile sob that we've been protecting
(06:45):
for the last three years. He was the same selfish
soob right. It was also c nile that they were
trying to hide, telling us that he that no one
can keep up with Joe Biden, that Joe Biden's faster
and quicker and smarter than everybody else, that Joe Biden
is the man, that Joe Biden is a vibrant We
all knew it was a lie, and then the entire
(07:06):
country and the world saw it during the last debate.
But you look at this way they framed it. This
is like a something you stick on a tombstone, folks.
He's self isolating both medically and politically, is what they
said on MSNBC. Like, I mean, I'm waiting for the
breaking news banner Joe Biden dead politically, right, Like Joe
(07:27):
Biden has died politically, it's they're writing his obituary right
now on MSNBC. Both again, Joe Biden is self isolating
both medically and politically. Like like if I was Joe
Biden and I was I was isolated, and I saw
that at MSBC, I actually might wake up from a
(07:48):
n app and like call somebody and be angry like that.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
It might actually get me excited, like I'm not dead yet.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Y'all, Like, well, politically you are, sir, like you are politically.
I can't you see Joe Scarborough saying that to him,
like you're done, You're finished. Like they're losing their minds
in the Democratic Party now. I will say this, I've
never seen the Republicans as united as we are now
at convention. I've never witnessed this in my entire political career.
(08:17):
I have never seen the Democratic Party turning the way
that they're turning. Representative Joyce Beattie was on NBC and
I want you to hear what she had to say
about Joe Biden, and she's still trying to defend him.
Like the group of people that's willing to go on
TV to defend Joe Biden is getting smaller and smaller,
not by the day, but by the hour.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Listen joining us now.
Speaker 6 (08:40):
Is the former chair of the Congressional Back Black Caucus,
Congressoman Joyce.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Beatty of Ohio.
Speaker 6 (08:46):
She is a national advisory board member for the Biden
Harris campaign. And Jonathan Lemire has the first question.
Speaker 7 (08:54):
Jonathan, Congressman, thanks for joining us this morning. Let me
pose the question to you, very similar the one the
president just received. We know at least Pole suggests, to
this point in the race, black voters have not been
there with the same kind of numbers or enthusiasm for
Joe Biden as they were four years ago.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
What can be done?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
What concrete steps can be done to turn that around?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Well, first of.
Speaker 8 (09:20):
All, let me just say thank you, and I think
we're doing that right now. We're telling not just Black America,
but we're telling all of America the work that Joe
Biden and Kamala Harris have done. You can pick a topic.
You can talk about our economy, you can talk about
education and health care. They've been leading and for Black Americans.
President Biden kept his word on every promise he made.
(09:44):
He told us we'd have a black woman on the
Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
He told us that he.
Speaker 8 (09:49):
Would stand up for education, and he put the most
money into HBCUs than.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Any other president.
Speaker 8 (09:55):
We could talk about our children or our seniors. More
than fifty percent of our children are now out of poverty,
and we're protecting our seniors. If you just look at
what he did to cap insulin at thirty five dollars
a month or to out of pocket expenses for medical
supplies prescriptions to two thousand dollars. He meets with the
(10:20):
Congressional Black Caucus. We've done more when you talk about
criminal justice and keeping our communities safe with this president.
So I think we have to tell our stories and
you have to look at it. It's still early in
some ways.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Voters start really.
Speaker 8 (10:35):
Coming out in September.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
In October.
Speaker 8 (10:37):
We know how many black voters go to the polls
on election day.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
So we're still all in.
Speaker 8 (10:44):
And I can tell you as a member and char
Emerita of the Congressional Black Caucus, I'm all the way
with Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Now she says she's all in with Joe Biden, and then.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
She's asked a question. You know what she says, until
he tells me otherwise. So you're on his campaign, you're
an advisor, you're of the Black Caucus, and you're now
changing your line from I'm all into I'm all in
with Joe Biden dot dot dot until he tells me otherwise.
(11:21):
So even the people that are his advisors on his
campaign are now looking at the real possibility that we're
gonna get rid of Joe Biden. So let's talk about
this strategy by the way by Democrats to delay their convention.
The reason why the tactic you need to understand is
(11:43):
once they lock in Joe Biden, and Joe Biden officially
takes the nomination and the delegates at the convention, then
the chances of replacing him drop astronomically. And the options
right now and the power structure, and I'll go over
this very quickly because it's important to understand how this
(12:04):
could work. So the power right now is all the delegates.
They have all the power. Okay, the power right now
to get a different candidate is in their hands at
the convention. But as soon as the convention is over,
they have zero power, like not even one percent power,
(12:26):
zero power. It gets much more complicated at that point.
To get rid of Joe Biden. There's two ways you
can do it. One, you could have a twenty fifth
amendment that is invoked by the cabinet where they could
actually say we believe you're unfit and we're going to
take you out. That's option number one. Number two you
(12:48):
could have then the people that are members of the
Democratic National Committee. Each state has members who could then
come together and pick the candidate that would be chaotic.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
I believe, based on the timeline, that the only real
person at this moment that can take over is Kamala Harris.
I think they could have parachuted in Michelle Obama from
what I'm being told, I think she doesn't want any
part of this, especially after.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
The assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
So she doesn't want to be a part of this
disaster dumpster fire that the Democratic Party has right now.
Could that change, of course, Kamala Harris is a clear choice.
I just played for you that MSNBC clip from earlier
where they're already talking about like, hey, she's got the money,
she's got the staff.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
She would be an easy fixed on Roe v. Wade.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
That would be the center point of the campaign, women's rights,
as you, she would fire up minority voters. I mean,
they're selling it, and the sales pitch is pretty solid.
There doesn't seem to be as much as the Democrats
really don't like her, any real push for any other
candid but Kamala, because I think they under stand she's
the only one that has the time and the campaign staff,
(14:04):
because she would keep everybody that Biden has on the team.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
And they would immediately move forward with that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
So I believe she is the person at this moment,
very very very very very clearly. Okay, like very clearly.
That's number one, number two here. Even the Democrats are
supposed to be the protectors of Joe Biden are not
protecting him. Joyce quote, I'm all in video, who's a
(14:35):
black caucus? Okay, I'm all in with Joe Biden until
he tells me otherwise. But there's a lot of other
people on TV that are saying the otherwise. Is it's
it's over right? Like it's over.
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Helsman National affairs analysts said this on NBC News about
the patients of Democrats waiting on Joe Biden to drop out.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Yeah, and look, Joe, I mean, yes, so yesterday, as
you said, all those people ducks in a row, Adam
Schiff a close Pelosi ally certainly with her blast thing.
First we had heard the elaked thing about how he
had a fundraiser over the weekend, has said he thought
Biden would lose. That he came out yesterday with the
La Times and announced it would be probably the most
(17:11):
prominent Democrats so far, almost certain soon to be senator
from California, formerhead of the House Intelligence Committee, came out
and said that he wanted Biden to step aside. And then,
in rapid succession, word coming out that Haakim Jeffries had
had a tough meeting with Biden last Friday, that Schumer
had had a meeting on Saturday, and then last night
(17:31):
again not coincidentally, the almost the moment that Jade Vance
finished speaking Abby Phillips, the CNN broke the news that
Nancy Pelosi had the same conversation with Biden. I believe
it's possible she's had that conversation with Biden more than once,
in fact, since last Thursday.
Speaker 5 (17:50):
And none of this is a coincidence.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
This is what it looks like when the Democratic leadership
still trying to get Joe Biden to do what they
believe is the right thing for the party, which is
to step aside. Still trying to only go private, go
go public in a kind of oblique way, not calling
a press conference, not issuing anything formal. But they are
their patiences is now exhausted. They have looked at these
(18:14):
numbers and then come back to the money Joe. Jeffer
Katzenberg has devoted a lot of his professional life to
try to get Joe Biden into the White House, to
getting Joe Biden. In twenty twenty, he raised more money
for Joe Biden. Call told back in twenty twenty than
any other person. He's raised more money for Joe Biden collectively,
pulling all these people together, the big Hollywood fundraisers, and
he's a campaign co chairman.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Jeffrey Katzenberg.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Okay, he went to Biden yesterday and said the big
dollar donors are done effectively I'm paraphrasing, but we can
still raise money at the grassroots but that means about
half of the money that we were expecting for the
fall we are not going to have. Joe Biden has
had a significant financial advantage over Donald Trump for the
(18:59):
first half of this year, as we all know, and
this goes a little bit of our discussion we've been
having about polling.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
They have spent one hundreds.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Of millions dollars already in the battleground states. And one
of the things that worries again Democrats and some of
the president's people is that they've spent a lot of
money in those battleground states and have not moved his
numbers very much. While the Trump campaign has not had
very much money.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
They're now telling you that money can't save Joe Biden.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
That's damning, folks, That is damning.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
One other thing I'll say about this, Van Jones said
last night on CNN, quote, a bullet couldn't stop Trump,
A virus stopped Joe Biden. They want him gone. So
let's talk about last night's speeches. Okay, this is incredible
(19:55):
for me and jd Vance had a speech last night
and it was a speech.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
That a lot of kind of criticized this morning.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Just so you know, they've criticized this speech because they
thought it wasn't a lot of energy. It was one
of those speeches that Minie said, Hey, I think this
is pretty like bland speech. Giving a speech two days
after you've been gotting the phone call that you're the
vice presidential of Canada is intimidating. And do I think
(20:30):
it could have been punched up a little bit more
being in the room last night, Yes, I think you
could see that on Donald Trump's face a.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Little bit as well. I'm not gonna lie to you, guys.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
I'm also not a cheerleader when I see somebody out
there that you know, I wanted him to kill it.
I think it was a six and a half seven
out of ten. Do I think it's going to hurt
the ticket?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
No? Do Am I worried about him picking him now?
Speaker 4 (20:53):
Or No?
Speaker 1 (20:53):
I also think he's better in debates than he is
at speeches, So all I care about is the VP debate.
But there were also some incredible moments in his speech
which I if you miss this, I wanted you to
hear it because I love the story of Jdvans. I
love the history of Jdvans, I love the addiction aspect
(21:15):
of the overcoming with his mom and his grandmother raising him.
But there was one part in the speech last night
that was truly incredible, and that was this moment in
our movement.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
Ladies and gentlemen, it's about grandparents all across this country
who are living on Social Security and raising grandchildren they
didn't expect to raise. And while we're on the topic
of grandparents, let me tell you another mammal story. And
my mamma died shortly before I left for Iraq in
two thousand and five. And when we went through things,
we found nineteen loaded handguns.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
They were.
Speaker 9 (22:05):
Now The thing is, they were stashed all over her house,
under her bed, in her closet, in the silverware drawer,
and we wondered what was going on. And it occurred
to us that towards the end of her life, mamma
couldn't get around so well. And so this real old
woman made sure that no matter where she was, she
(22:26):
was with an arm's length of whatever she needed to
protect her family.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
That's who we fight for.
Speaker 5 (22:31):
That's American spirit.
Speaker 1 (22:34):
That for me, was the highlight of JD. Vance's speech
last night. I thought it was an incredible moment. I
thought it was one that made people love him, his family,
his story. It was one of those moments that I
think people will remember. And look, there's some people that
(22:54):
may have heard that in thought to themselves, Hey, that's ridiculous.
No grandmother who wanted to protect at all costs her
the person that she loved the most, the people that
she loved the most. There was also another really cool
point of last night, and that was Jade Vance's wife
(23:19):
coming out on stage.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
She's not a political person.
Speaker 1 (23:23):
She is a mother firsts a wife, and she stepped
up on the stage. This is not her thing to
be a public speaker. And I always feel bad for
people that are expected to do amazing things on the
stage when it's just not what they do.
Speaker 2 (23:41):
They do they're not trained for it.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Spouses and politics are treated like they are supposed to
be as good as their husband or their wife, and
I don't think that's fair. And there were people last
night that I hope she didn't screw this up. I
thought that Jade Vance's wife did an amazing job introducing
her husband to the world because there's a lot of
people that were going to watch JD for the very
(24:05):
very first time.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
I want you to hear her introduction, Good.
Speaker 10 (24:14):
Evening, Good evening. When I was asked to introduce my
husband JD vance to all of you, I was at
a loss. What could I say that hasn't already been
said before? After all, the man was already the subject
of Ron Howard movie. JD has shared much of his
(24:38):
life through his own eloquent words in his book He'll
Billy Elogy. During his Senate campaign and now as a
City United States Senator, it occurred to me that there
was only one thing to do, to explain from the
heart why I love and admire JD and stand here
(24:59):
beside him today, and why he will make a great
Vice President of the United States. I met JD in
law school when he was fresh out of Ohio State,
which he attended with the support of the GI Bill.
(25:21):
We were friends first, because I mean, who wouldn't want
to be friends with JD. He was then as now,
the most interesting person I knew, A working class guy
who had overcome childhood traumas that I could barely fathom
to end up at Yale Law School, a tough marine
who had served in Iraq, but whose idea of a
(25:43):
good time was playing with puppies. And watching the movie Babe,
the most determined person I knew, with one overriding ambition
to become a husband and a father, and to build
the kind of tight knit family that he had longed
for as a child. My background is very different from JD's.
(26:07):
I grew up in San Diego, in a middle class community,
with two loving parents, both immigrants from India, and a
wonderful sister that Jad and I could meet at all,
let alone fall in love and Mary is a testament
(26:28):
to this great country. It is also a testament to JD,
and it tells you something about who he is. When
JD met me, he approached our differences with curiosity and enthusiasm.
(26:53):
He wanted to know everything about me, where I came from,
what my life had been like. Although he's a meat
and potatoes kind of guy, he adapted to my vegetarian
diet and learned to cook food from my mother Indian food.
Before I knew it, he had become an integral part
(27:13):
of my family, a person I could not meant could
not imagine living without. The JD I knew then is
the same JD you see today, except for that beard
and his goals in this new role are the same
that he has pursued for our family, to keep people safe,
(27:35):
to create opportunities, to build a better life, and to
solve problems with an open mind. It's safe to say
that neither JD nor I expected to find ourselves in
this position. But it's hard to imagine a more powerful
example of the American dream a boy from Middletown, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
You know, I got to say that I thought that
her explaining who he is and explaining what he stands
for and where he came from was one of the
most powerful moments of the night from someone that's like, look,
I married him, I love him, I want to support him,
(28:30):
And it was very real. It came across very authentic,
I think in the hall, and I think it translated
on TV. It excited me for his family and the
story of where he came from is an important one.
It's going to relate to many different people, and I
(28:51):
got to say that was one of my highlights I
think last night in the convention hall, was listening to
her introduce her husband that she's clearly so proud of
and the father of our children is so proud of.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
I love it.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
These are the type of stories that I think we
as conservatives need to just enjoy and be excited at
the age of JD.
Speaker 2 (29:13):
Van's and mean, he's younger than I am, for goodness sakes.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
And I never get to say that, and I just
I'm rooting for them. I love the fact that he
is this type of individual with small kids that can
relate to the family's real issues in America today, whether
it's public education, whether it's just paying for things with kids,
the cost of living, these are things that he brings
(29:36):
the ticket because of his age and his wife and
their family.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
That is incredible.
Speaker 1 (29:44):
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