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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There is a really sad reality in this country right now,
and that is if you are a hard working American
man and you say something online that's supposed to be funny,
it can cost you your job if people find it
politically incorrect.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
There's instant accountability for anything that isn't perfect in the
private sector in this country, especially if you are a conservative.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But what is the accountability like.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
If you're a government employee, for example, maybe you're in
charge of the secret Service detail that's screwed up to
the point where you have a president of the United
States of America or the former president Donald Trump and
the leader to become the president of United States of America,
you know, get shot. How many people lose their jobs
when there's a building that is in plain sight from
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where the president a perfect shot for where the president's
standing on a stage, for example, and no one's on
that rooftop. What happens then? Is there any ability? The
answer is very clearly no. How do we know this
because the acting director testified before Congress and was asked like,
who's been fired?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How many people have been fired? Has anyone been fired? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we don't have anyone that's been fired. And you
may say, well, hold on, I'm going to fact check you, Ben,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The FBI director is gone. That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
She resigned. She was not fired by the President of
the United States of America. Remember, Joe Biden fires no one.
In fact, I'm not sure there's anything you can do
in this administration to get you fired. But what was
even more shocking when the new acting director went before
the Senate. I've got a lot more to say about
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to hear what he said on one basic issue, which
is the most mind blowing twenty nine seconds of this
entire hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever
passed to our personnel. How is that even possible? Do
you want to comment to that senator again? I believe
that information and this is probably something my colleague can
expound on, information that was in law enforcement local law
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enforcement channels but did not cross over and make it
to Secret Service awareness.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Mike Lee. Sener, Mike Lee, you hear they're asking that
simple question. How is that even possible? Because the Acting
Secret Service Director, Ronald Road Junior his quote again, no
information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever Okay,
I'm want to make sure you understand that word he says,
was ever passed to our personnel? The personnel is he's saying,
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our personnel, the Secret Service? Sener, Mike Lee, how is
that even possible? Not only that, but the FBI deputy director,
and this was also someone at the hearing, was asked
another question, and I want you to hear what the
FBI director had to say.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The acting director had to say, listen to this.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
We don't have definitive evidence yet as to how he
got the rifle up there. Based on everything that's been
collected thus far, photos, video, eyewitness accounts, we do believe
he likely had it in the.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Backpack, broken down in the backpack. We're still assessing that.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Our laboratory has taken it, looked at the rifle itself
and measured that against the backpack itself, and if placed
in this backpack it would extend outside, it would have
been visible. We don't have anyone who has observed him,
who observed him with the backpack with a rifle barrel
or other part of it sticking out of the backpack,
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but the rifle would not have fit fully into this
backpack to be concealed in whole.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We have video that was.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Recently found of the shooter walking in a distance from
his car just before six pm, about five point fifty six,
I believe, and based on everything we have, we assess
that he returned to his vehicle at that time, I
got the backpack and then proceeded back to the area
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and to the AGR building and then he's observed of
course on the roof just you know, minutes later, holding
the backpack in front of him. In fact, there's dashcam
footage from a police vehicle that shows him briefly traversing
the roof with the backpack in front of him, and
then it's just minutes after that that he's actually seen
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by the officer who I described with the rifle on
the roof. It's possible that he broke the rifle down,
but we don't have conclusive evidence of that and took
it out of the bag on the roof in those
moments before and reassembled there. That's one of the theories
we're looking at and working on right now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We have a answer here. The FBI deputy director admits
that while the FBI quote has no definitive evidence of
how exactly the Trump jeter managed to get an AR
fifteen on the roof, he admits this juter most likely
had it in his backpack. We can't even figure that
out right now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I'm not blaming the FBI deputy director for that answer.
What I am saying is this was such a colossal
just you know what up that the question goes back
to what I said at the very beginning. How is
it possible that a hard working American man in this
country can put an off color joke out on the
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Internet that somebody's offended by. We can find that person
and make sure they get fired from their job for that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But you have this big of a screw.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Up, and you have an acting Secret Service director who says, yeah,
we had no information regarding a weapon on the roof
that was ever passed to the Secret Service. They weren't
talking to local law enforcement. Yeah, we didn't have anybuy
in the roof there. Yet are bad? Hey, we lost
this guy out there that we didn't even know existed
because no one told us about it, because we weren't
contacting or in contact with the people on the ground
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that we're seeing this guy. And we don't even know
how we got a gun on a roof? How is
it that with this many questions, basic questions, they can't answer.
Has no one been fired? No one has been fired
for any of this. There is a double standard. Do
you understand just how big the double standard is? Now,
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while I'm telling you this, there is another major news
story that I want to get on your radar screen.
I'm going to ask syner Ted Cruz about this coming
up in a moment, and he actually went back and
forth with the leader of the acting director of the
Secret Service, and I'm going to play that for you.
It is an amazing conversation and back and forth of
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him just dismantling the Secret Service director.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm going to have that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
But before I get to that, there's other big breaking
news that you need to know about.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Hamas's political leader.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's now being reported has been killed in Iran in Tehran.
We go back to this over and over again. The
Biden administration has done nothing to stop Iran. We've given
the money, We've released funds, We've not actually dealt with
any of the sanctions that are quote on them actually
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enforcing those sanctions on their oil. We've allowed them to
get rich. And what are they doing with the money?
They are giving it to these terrorist organizations Amasen has
bought to kill innocent people in Israel, including those kids
playing soccer. Over the weekend, we now know that the
Hamas leader was killed in an explosion in Iran's capital
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of Tehran. The militant group and Iran State TV has
now said the news. The Independent is now looking at
this and they're saying yes, they believe this happened as
well as they're reporting it there with reporters on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Want to be clear here, we don't know anything else
at the moment while I'm recording this. But what we
do know is there's been some very big, big victories
now that are coming at the hands of Israel against
these leaders, and that is extremely important. It is extremely
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important for people to understand that this is now a
moment where it seems like Iran is starting to be
able to take out these leaders. Iran has now said
officially that Hamas leader was quote assassinated in Tehran. That's
coming in As I'm recording this, some of this will change.
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But what we know now is that apparently Israel has
killed Hesbla's number two where do they kill him in Beirut,
Lebanon and Hamas's number one in Iran in Tehran. Iran
is also the same country that has hired an assassination
team to kill Donald Trump, which has also been a
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major issue. I'm going to break all of this down
for you, Senator Ted Cruz coming up. Senator Cruz and
I set down to do our podcast, and I want
you to hear what he had to say about the
Secret Services. Just horrific leadership and lack of answers that
they are giving about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Senator,
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so set the stage for us real quick. I want
to play. Obviously, you're back and forth with the acting
director as you got to ask a lot of questions,
and it didn't go well for him. It's made a
lot of headlines, but set the stage of how important
this hearing was and why it was taking place.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
So this was yesterday morning. It was a joint hearing
of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Committee on
Homeland Security, and we head the acting director of the
Secret Service, the former director has finally resigned given the
catastrophic failures we saw, and the deputy director of the FBI.
And so it was hearing that went all morning, and
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I got to say, there was enormous concerned, enormous skepticism.
We saw it from both Republicans and Democrats who were
asking about the disastrous failures of the Secret Service. And listen,
the acting director, he is somewhat better than the old director.
The old director was brazen, she was defiant. Her view
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was we owe nothing, we owe no accountability, We will
not answer any question. We did everything right to his credit.
The acting Director began his testimony by saying, we screwed up.
We screwed up really badly. And the fact that there
was not an agent on the roof where the shooter
was was utterly indefensible. That's a step in the right direction.
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That being said, he's stonewalled, and he stonewalled in a
way that was infuriating. And look, rather than me describe
it to you, just give a listen. Here's my questioning
of the Acting Director of the Secret Service yesterday morning.
Thank you, miss chairman, mister Row, thank you for being here.
I agree with what you said at the outset that
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the individual Secret Service agents demonstrated remarkable personal courage putting
their bodies in between the line of sight of the
shooter and the president. That being said, the bravery of
the line agents is quite different from the decisions of
Secret Service leadership. Secret Service leadership committed catastrophic security failures,
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indeed the worst security failures for the Secret Service since
nineteen eighty one, since the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan.
It is incumbent upon this committee to determine why those
security failures happened. Just after the shooting Secret Service put
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out an official statement from your spokesperson that says, there's
an untrue assertion that a member of the former president's
team requested additional security resources that those were rebuffed. This
is absolutely false. In fact, we added protective resources and
technology and capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Was this tweet accurate with respect to Butler, Pennsylvania. It
is accurate, sir.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
It is accurate that the Trump team had not asked
for additional security and had not been rebuffed.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
If you're talking about Butler, Pennsylvania, all assets requested were approved.
If you're talking about the media reporting of assets requested,
there were times when assets were unavailable and not able
to be filled, and those gaps were staffed with state
and local law enforcement tactical assets.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
So I'm reading from the Washington Post July twentieth, twenty
twenty four. Secret Services denied requests for more security at
Trump events the opening paragraph. Top officials of the US
Secret Service repeatedly denied requests for additional resources and personnel
sought by Donald Trump's security detail in the two years
leading up to his attempted assassination. According to four people
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familiar with the requests. Is that right that repeatedly the
Trump detail asked for more resources and repeatedly Secret Service
leadership turned that down.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
That is not accurate, Senator, assets are requested. There's a
process that has made.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
How many requests did the Trump team or the Trump
Detail ask for?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I can get you that number in a qu you don't.
You don't know now, so I can speak to the
ones that reported in the Washington Post and we can
go through them if you like.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
But you don't know how many requests there were in general?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
How many requests since twenty twenty one that the former
Trump detail has made a request.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
For asking You've had two weeks you had a spokesperson
put something out that is false on its face. By
the way, did you approve this statement when it went out?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I don't know if I did or didn't say.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Has this spokesperson is he still employed?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Does he still have still employed? Center?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
So he lied on behalf of the Secret Service? He
still has a job. Did your predecessor, the former director,
does she approve the statement?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Senator? Are Comm's team they send out statements, they do
deconflict them, and they put them out.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Did she approve this statement?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I don't know if she did or did not, and
you don't know if you did either. I don't recall
approving it. Senator.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Will you commit to provide this committee in writing every
written request for additional resources from the Trump campaign or
the Trump Detail and every response from Secret Service?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Senator, I will commit to providing responses and getting you
the information that you're seeking.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Me ask you something, and who makes the decision to
deny those requests? Did you make that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Which requests are you telling about the ones that written
in the post?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
The processor is that a detail will make a request
for either staffing technical assets that is handled between the
field office and the detail. It goes up to a
logistics office between our.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, so there's a bureaucracy. Is there a decision maker?
It's not a bureaucracy, Senator, it's a person that's a
decision maker. Is there one, Senator? It's a conversation. It's
not just an absolute yet. So let me tell you
what I believe. I believe that the Secret Service leadership
made a political decision to deny these requests, and I
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think the Biden administration has been suffused with partisan politics.
Did the same person who denied the request for additional
security to President Trump also repeatedly deny the request for
security to Robert F. Kennedy Junior, whose father was murdered
by an assassin and whose uncle was murdered by an assassin.
Did the same person make that decision?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Senator? What I will tell you is that Secret Service
agents are not political.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Okay, you're not answering my You know what, leadership by
the president, leadership appointed by the president is political. I
have a simple question, yes or no. Did the same
person deny the Trump requests that also denied the RFK request.
That's a yes or no question, Senator.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That is not a yes or no question. One. There
is a process for a candidate nominee to receive protection.
Is there a bi Cameron does the bike style Budy
artisan process that they.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Say by tameral bipartisan process. What can a candidate not
a congress We have a cameral Mister.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Kennedy submitted a request that was referred over to the
Sea Pack.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Okay, you're refusing to answer the question. Let me ask
because because the failures on that day were catastrophic. By
the way, is it true that on the day of
the of the Butler event, that Secret Service transferred agent
from President Trump to the First Lady H.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, sir, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
That's been widely reported.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's not true. There was one airport agent that actually
went on the MANPIW request for the Trump detail. They
handled the arrival at the airport.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
What is the relative what was the relative size of
the Trump detail compared to the detail that is assigned
to the president of the First Lady? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Senator, the former president travels with a full shift just
like the president.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
What's the so the the exact same size. Is that
your testimony that President Trump had the same size detail
that President Biden has.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
On the day of Inballer the agent surrounding him. It
is the same number of agents surrounding the president today.
There is a difference between a sitting president who also
not only.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And you're using president in a way that is not clear.
Is it your testimony that in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump
had the same number of agents protecting him that Joe
Biden has at a comparable event.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I'm telling you the shift, the close protection shift surrounded Yes,
you asked me, Senator, I'm trying to answer it.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You are not answering it is it the same number
of agents or not?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Senator, there is a difference between the sitting president of
the United States.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And what's the difference the difference two x three x five?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
National demand, authority to launch a nuclear strike? The assets?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
How many more with the president?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's our former president.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You're refusing to the number of Secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm interacting him.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Stop interrupting me. Go ahead, John refusing to answer clear
and direct questions. I am asking the relative difference in
the number of agents between those assigned to Donald Trump
and those assigned to Joe Biden. I'm not asking why
you assign more to Joe Biden. I'm asking is the difference?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is it two x?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Is it three X? Is it five X? Is it
ten x?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Senator, I will get you that number so you can
see it with your own eyes.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Senator number one, let's start the end. He says, he
will get you those numbers. This is not a hard question.
You asked about the difference in the details, and yet
he clearly didn't want to answer that question. Is that
because we're going to be so shocked by what that
answer is?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So listening He engaged in a very deliberate effort at deception.
He said, the close protective detail is identical. Now understand
a Secret Service detail that is protecting someone. You have
the close protective detail, which are the agents that actually
surround the protect tea. You also have typically a perimeter
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that is often at three levels, the close protection, a
second perimeter level that's often where you see magnetometers, that's
often when you see people examined, and then you have
the furthest out perimeter. What he did not want to
answer is how many agents we're protecting Donald Trump, how
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many agents typically protect Joe Biden? And, by the way,
how many agents protect the first Lady Jill Biden. Now
I can tell you following up this cross examination, we
have what are called QFRS questions for the record, So
I am submitting written questions. I am asking the acting
Director of the Secret Service. Number one, how many agents
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were assigned to Donald Trump? Number two? How many are
typically assigned to Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Number three?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
How many are typically assigned the first Lady? Now, to
be clear, and this is where listen, there's some strategy
in terms of how you approach across examination like this
in public hearing. I did not ask him this in
a public hearing, why because he would refuse to answer.
He what he would say is, I'm not going to
disclose to you how many agents are assigned to Donald
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Trump because that would endanger the security of the protective detail,
and that that's a reasonable response. It's why I didn't
ask the question, because there's there's something that is known
as law enforcement confidential. So when I ask him a
question for the record, listen, I have TSSCI clearance. I
have the top level of security clearance there exists in
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the government. I want to know the exact number how
many friggin agents were assigned to Trump, how many were
assigned to the first Lady, how many were assigned to
the president. I'm not going to reveal those numbers, so
when I get them, I'm assuming he will tell me.
If he tells me, they're law enforcement confidential, I'm not
going to repeat them on this podcast. But what I
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am going to repeat is what I asked him that
he refused to answer. What is the relative difference. I understand,
Joe Biden, the sitting president's detail is larger than Trump's,
but by what margin? Is it double? Is it triple?
Is it five? X Is it ten X? He did
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not want to answer that question. The American people are
entitled to know that question.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Let's also go back to some other questions that were
asked of him, and I think these are important. One
of them came from one of your good friends and colleagues,
Mike Lee, A very simple question.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever
passed to our personnel. How is that even possible? Do
you want to comment to that Senator?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Again?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I believe that information and this is probably something my
colleague can expound on, information that was in law enforcement
local law enforcement channels but did not cross over and
make it to Secret Service awareness.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean, that might be one of the worst answers
I've ever heard Center and the fact that he's confirming
what we were terrified of, which is no information regarding
a weapon on the roof for the shooter on the
roof was ever passed to our personnel. Now, when he
refers to our personnel, he's clearly referring to those in
the Secret Service or the Secret Service sniper team. And
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Mike Lee's response is spot on right, how is that
even possible?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Look, this was as I said, a catastrophic security failure
by the leadership of the Secret Service. They are not
taking responsibility for that failure. Now, I got to tell
you the way this hearing was set up, we had
five minute rounds. It is difficult to walk through the
details of what you need to get through in five minutes.
I ended up taking about seven, which then I went
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about two minutes over and that always leary. But let
me tell you some of the other questions that I
had that I was prepared to ask, but because the
acting director of the Secret Service was filibustering to some extent,
he was interrupting me to some extent, he was belligerent
to a significant extent, I didn't get to them. But
there are a whole series of questions that need to
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be answers. And by the way, I'm asking every one
of these questions in writing. So in a follow up
to hearing, you ask written questions Number one. The shooter
when he came into the rally site in Butler, Pennsylvania,
he was stopped by Secret Service at the metal detectors.
He had a rangefinder with him. That was at three pm.
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Why did Secret Service not detain him? Why did they
not question him about the ragefinder. Now, the acting director
of the Secret Service, he said, well, it was a
recreational rangefinder. It was like a golf rangefinder that he
used to look the disc to the pin. Now you're
right now, you're with your son at the World Championship.
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You probably have a golf rangefinder. Yes, you know what.
You know what in Butler, Pennsylvania, they weren't playing golf.
They weren't trying to figure out where the pin was.
There is no benign or innocious explanation for why someone
shows up at a political rally with a rangefinder. So
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that's question number one. Why didn't you detain him? Why
didn't you question him? Why don't you say, why the
hell do you have this rangefinder? They didn't. After that,
Two and a half hours later, at about five point thirty,
the shooter was seen. And by the way, let me
make it a side you will notice on this podcast,
I will never ever ever say the name of the shooter.
I think people that commit heinous acts like this are
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evil bastards who deserve to be forgotten by history. So
I will never I'll call him the shooter, but I
will not repeat his name. But the shooter at about
five thirty was observed using the rangefinder to measure the
distance from where he was to the podium where Donald
Trump was. The next obvious question, why did was the
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shooter not detained? Then question? Then he was observed by
law enforcement scoping out the distance. That is obvious and
highly suspicious activity. Third question, why were there not more agents?
We had repeated requests over and over and over again
from the Trump team. We need more agents, We need
more agents. Why were there not more agents in the
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outer perimeter? Why there were they not more agents? On
another question, why was there not a secret Service agent
on that rooftop? It is obvious it was about one
hundred and forty yards away from the president. That is
a clean line of sight for a sniper. That is
not a difficult shot. Why was there not a secret
Service agent on that roof to ensure that nobody else
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was there? He did not answer that question either.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Why let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let me ask you this question on that because there's
a lot of people that ask me this, and I
want you to answer your perspective. If they didn't have
a team, right, There's been arguments when maybe they didn't
have a team to cover that roof, and so it
was lack of resources assign the agents. There are four
thousand Secret Service agents assign the agents.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
So one of the fundamental problems is the Secret Service.
I believe. I haven't had this confirmed, but here's what
I believe was happening. They were treating Donald Trump as
a former president. Now, listen, former presidents have Secret Service
protection for life. So Jimmy Carter right now, who is
almost one hundred years old, Jimmy Carter has a Secret
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Service detail now. To be honest, that's right, that's good.
But the threats against Jimmy Carter at this point in
his life are very low. There are just not a
lot of Trump. There are not a lot of active
murderers seeking to kill Jimmy Carter at the very end
of his natural life. We know, by the way, the
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Nation of Iran has hired assassins to murder Trump. So
you don't just have crazy ass lunatics who want to
shoot him. You literally have a nation state with billions
of dollars to fund assassins to murder him. And what
I believe the Secret Service, here's what I think happened.
The Biden administration is political in every decision it makes.
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I think they didn't want to up Trump's security detail
because if they did so, they would have to acknowledge
his legitimacy. Listen, Trump is not just a former president
who's retired and is off like painting paintings and building
houses for habitat for humanity. He is the Republican nominee
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to be president right now. He is I think likely
the next president of the United States and the Biden administration,
I believe this was all politics. The leadership of the
Secret Service did not want to up his detail because
it would be according credibility and seriousness to his campaign.
It is, I believe, the identical reason they refused repeatedly
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to give a Secret Service detailed Robert F. Kennedy Junior
now listen, you and I on this podcast months ago
called them out and said it is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Kennedy Junior, his father RFK Senior was murdered when he
was running for president of the United States. His uncle
JFK was murdered as the sitting president of the United States.
RFK Junior has had multiple death threats. He has had
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multiple attempts on his life and I believe the reason
that the Biden administration didn't give him a Secret Service
protection is they hate the fact that another Democrat is
running against what was the Joe Biden now Kamala Harris,
and if they gave Secret Services protection to him, it
would be acknowledging he was legitimate. That is, if that
is the basis, it is a purely political decision. It
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is indefensible and we need to get answers on it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Senata, I want to ask you another couple of quick
questions about this, because there's so much that came out
in this hearing. One of them you mentioned a moment
ago was about Iran, and I want to play this
because I do think it just shows how shocking how
unprepared the Secret Service was, not just at this event,
but maybe at many other events that were supposed to
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be protecting Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
What is the nature of the Iran threat? The threat
to former President Trump that has been mentioned, but we
know that. Let me be clear here.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
The terrorist regime of Iran have been targeting people or
country for many, many years now. We've talked about that
here before. I want to be clear about that. From
the FBI stamp we have we know publicly, they've put
they've targeted former President Trump, they've called for his assassination.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I mean that they know this, and they say they've
been doing this for years, and yet you let this
building just sit unattended. And I go back to the
question I asked you earlier, because it's a question many
have asked, if let's just say hypothetical center, they didn't
have the manpower, hypothetical for the Secret Service, and I
have the manpower, get it, Why wouldn't they have used
those that were on the ground there locally, the SWAT
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teams that were there locally to cover that.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Roof well, and to some extent, so the Secret Service
was trying to pass the blame to local law enforcement.
They were saying, well, local law enforcement screwed up. And
so they said at one point that there were local
SWAT teams that were supposed to be monitoring that roof,
and there's been testimony that there was a local SWAT
team there and then they disappeared. Now they won't tell
us who it was. They won't tell us who made
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the decision to leave that post. There has been media
reports that there was someone assigned to be on that roof,
but it was too hot, so they left. We need
to know the answer to that that that is they're
they're not. But what's what the Secret Service is trying
to do is pass the buck to local law enforcement.
Say local law enforcement screwed up. But I'll tell you
a couple other questions that I was going to ask
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and that I am asking and writing. So we know,
and we've seen the videos. In fact, we played this
on this podcast at the time. There were multiple spectators
who were outside the perimeter who saw the shooter on
the roof. They saw the shooter on the roof with
a gun, with a rifle, and they began screaming and
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yelling and saying, there's a man on the roof, a
man on the roof of the gun. They began doing
that one minute and fifty seven seconds before the shooting began.
That's a lot of time. They told local law enforcement.
It was a sign in that outer perimeter there's a
man on the roof with the gun. Now, one of
the enormous problems is there was apparently zero coordination and
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communication between local law enforcement and Secret Service. So a
natural question a minute in fifty seven seconds before the
shooting began spectators observe a man on the roof of
a gun. Why did the local police officers who were
there not immediately radio Secret Service and say, there's a shooter.
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Pull President Trump down. That's what you do in that circumstance,
is you pull them down. If you have the protect
tee and you know that there's a potential sniper and
it's a dangerous situation, you go up, you pull them down,
say miss President, you need to come down for a second,
and you just pull them out of the harm's way
and then you go and deal with the law enforcement threat.
Why did they not do that for a minute in
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fifty seven second And what appears to be the answer,
but the acting director would not answer it is there
was no interoperability. There was no communication between local law
enforcement and the Secret Service. Now, and it gets even worse,
a local police officer climbed up on the shoulders of
another local police officer climbed up to the roof. So
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when the people are yelling, hey, there's a guy with
a gun, he climbed up to see it. He climbs
up to the roof. He pulls his head up and
the shooter turns and points his rifle at the officer's head.
Now the officer ducks because he doesn't want to get
shot in the head. And the testimony was he fell
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about eight feet to the ground. That happened twenty four
seconds before the first shot was fired. Now, in any
ordinary insane situation, the officer as he sees the rifle,
as he sees the man on the roof, so he knows.
You have a police officer that knows there's a shooter
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with a rifle on the roof while the president is talking.
Here's what should happen. The officer, as he's ducking down,
he pulls out his radio and he says gun gun
gun shooter, shooter, shooter. And if the Secret Service here
is that they have twenty four seconds for the detail
to run up to grab the president, to pull him
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down under the podium. And by the way, they also
have two counter snipers. If they get over the radio,
gun gun gun shooter, shooter shooter, you've got twenty four
seconds for the counter snipers to see the sniper, see
the shooter, and take him out. If that happens, President
Trump is not shot fire Chief Corey Comparatory is not murdered.
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The two other people who are severely injured or not injured.
And what appears to be the case, although the acting
director of the Secret Service would not confirm this, is
there was no radio interoperability. In other words, what the
local police officer saw, he could not communicate with Secret Service,
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and that is utterly unacceptable and what is infuriating. There
was nothing in the hearing yesterday that suggested they've changed
what they've done. So if they're relying on local law
enforcement for important security and yet they have no way
to communicate with local law enforcement about what they're seeing,
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it is fundamentally ineffective. And the most important question is
what are they doing to prevent this from happening again?
And there was zero answer to that question in the
hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Final question on this And somebody sent this to me
earlier today, and I'm just going to read it the
way it was sent to me. It says, quote, it's
sad that we live in the country now. We're a
hard working, regular guy who goes to work from seven
in the morning till nine o'clock at night or eight
o'clock put in fifty sixty hour week, will quote face
(37:57):
more professional consequences for sharing in a defensive joke online.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Then the unelected.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Bureaucrats task with protecting our president will face for almost
getting the leading candidate killed. Now, according to the acting
Secret Service director, he admitted to you guys yesterday that
no agent assigned to the Trump July thirteenth rally has
been fired. And in fact there's only the secret that
(38:24):
the head of the Secret Service that was forced to
resign after a horrible display on Capitol Hill. But it
doesn't seem like there's been any other accountability. And that's sad,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
It's infuriating. So, as best I can tell, in almost
four years of Joe Biden Kamala Harris being in the
White House, not a single person has been fired from
any job whatsoever. You have the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. It
was an absolute debacle that was embarrassing. It undermined the
US military. It led to the deaths of thirteen servicemen
(38:57):
and women. Nobody was fired, there was no accountability. You
have here the first shooting of a presidential candidate a
former president since nineteen eighty one, since Ronald Reagan, nobody
was fired in any sane world. The director of the
Secret Service would have resigned that day. In any sane world,
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the president would have fired the director of the Secret Service.
But there's no accountability. Now you now have the acting director.
And one question you asked me at the beginning of
this pot should the acting director be fired? And I'm
going to say, I don't know. I think the proof
is in the pudding. So on one level, the acting director,
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whom I don't know personally, but he's been a longtime
career Secret Service agent and officer. His answers demonstrated massively
more candor than the old director. The old director was
handpicked by Joe Biden and Joe Biden I believe the
old director was there. She used to be on Joe
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Biden's Secret Service detail when he was vice president. I
think they handpicked her because they wanted the Secret Service
to cover up Joe Biden's massive mental decline, and so
they put her in that place as a political decision
to protect his political vulnerabilities. That's what I believe. But
she was and we talked about this in a prior podcast.
(40:24):
When she did on All Senators briefing, she stonewalled she
would not answer any questions. She said they did everything
perfectly except for the fact that the president was shot,
and by the way, to be clear, had the bullet
been a half inch to the left, Donald Trump would
be dead today. She described this as a success for
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the Secret Service. It's not a success. It is I
think God's providence. I believe God turned Trump's head. But
we came within a half inch of the history of
the world being changed that day. So compared to the
former director, the acting director is at least admitting they
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screwed it up, they did something wrong. He has some
modicum of candor. Here's my answer in terms of whether
he should be fired. How does he answer the questions
for the record that I and other senators ask him.
I believe the Secret Service needs radical transparency. Among the
questions I'm asking also is how many threats are directed
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right now in the last year against Donald Trump, how
many threats are directed against Joe Biden, how many threat
threats are directed against the first Lady? And had to
be clear, all three need to be protected. I'm not
saying that Joe or Joe Biden should not be protected.
But one of the public press reports is on the
day of the Butler rally, they pulled members of Trump's
security detail and put them on the First Lady's detail.
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Now I don't know this, but Secret Service does. But
I'm going to venture a guess that the number of
threats against Trump versus against the First Lady it is
at least one hundred x. And it wouldn't surprise me
if it is a thousand x that I think Donald
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Trump is the most threatened person on the face of
the planet. And if it is the case, it is
all the more indefensible that the Secret Service political leadership
would not provide sufficient agents to keep him safe. And
I'm asking them how many threats against Trump? How many
threats against Joe Biden? How many threats against Joe Biden.
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Will see if they answer that, you know, based on
the testimony, I'm skeptical that they will.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Senator.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Finally, I want to move to some of this breaking news,
and it is an important moment that's happening in the
Middle East right now. Israel is doing everything they can
to protect their people, and they're also having success at
taking out terrorists and terrorist leaders that have been orchestrating
many of these attacks on Israel, including taking out someone
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in Iran in Tehran.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Well that's exactly right. And there are two huge stories
in terms of the war in Israel, the war against
Amas and against Hesbela. One story that broke late this
afternoon and evening is a story that says IDF kills
HESBELA commander behind brutal attack on children's soccer field. And
(43:30):
this is a Fox News story that's being reported everywhere.
Fuad Shukar, whose death is unconfirmed by Hesbela, was wanted
by US government connection to the nineteen ninety nineteen eighty
three Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut, and IDF forces on
Tuesday announced the death of Fuad Shukar, the HESBELA commander
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who was behind the drone strike that killed twelve children
and teens over the weekend. So over the weekend we
saw HESBELA fire rocket in northern Israel. It hit a
soccer field and twelve Israeli children were murdered. Continuing back
from the Fox News story, Shuker, who was also known
as haj Mohsen, joined Hesbel in nineteen eighty five. He
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was also sought by the US government over his connection
to the nineteen eighty three suicide bombing of the marine
corpberracks in Beirut that killed two hundred and forty one
US service members. Schuker served as a senior advisor to
Hesbeli leader Hassan Noasrala at the time of his death
in an IDF strike on Tuesday in southern Bey Route.
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The IDF confirmed the news in a press release announcing
that its fighter jets eliminated Hesbela terrorist organization's most senior
military commander, Shuker in Lebanon's capital city. Now understand, this
is a murderer responsible for murdering two hundred and forty
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one on US service members. This is a reason to celebrate. Listen,
the enemies of Israel are the enemies of America, the
enemies of Jews. Those who want to kill Jews want
to kill Christians. Hamas and Hesbela. They hate Israel, but
they hate America too. And this is an example where
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Israel fighting the war, fighting the war against Tamas and
Hesbela at the same time is defeating someone who has
murdered hundreds of Americans. That is an enormous victory for
this country. And then let me say secondly, so you
and I are recording this podcast, it is eleven forty pm.
At eleven forty pm, this news has just broken, so listen.
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Any time you're dealing with matters of life and death
and war in peace, the news can move. So what
we're recording right now, it may be different by six
am tomorrow. But at eleven forty pm, let me read
the AP story. Iran says Hamas leader Ismail Haniya was
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assassinated in Tehran, and let me just read the AP story.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniya was assassinated in Tehran, Iran's perimilitary
Revolutionary Guards said early Wednesday, no one immediately claimed responsibility
for the assassination, but suspicion immediately fell on Israel No Duh,
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which is vowed to kill Haniya and other leaders of
Hamas over the group's October seventh attack on Israel that
killed one two hundred people and saw some two hundred
and fifty others taken hostage. Haniya was in Tehran to
attend Iran President Masud Pezeshkians swearing in on Tuesday. Iran
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gave no details on how Haniya was killed, and the
Guard said the attack was under investigation. Analysts on Iranian
state television immediately began blaming Israel for the attack. Is
do not immediately comment, but it often doesn't when it
comes to assassinations carried out by their masade intelligence agency.
To come up within twenty four hours with number one
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killing the top military commander of Hesbelah responsible for murdering
twelve Israeli children in northern Israel with a rocket attack
and also responsible for two hundred and forty one American
servicemen and women being killed in Beirut in nineteen eighty three.
That's a big damn deal. And then this taking out
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the top leadership of AMAS. It's a big, big victory
for Israel and a big, big victory for America.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
Make sure you share this podcast with your family and
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and I'll see you back here tomorrow
There is a really sad reality in this country right now,
and that is if you are a hard working American
man and you say something online that's supposed to be funny,
it can cost you your job if people find it
politically incorrect.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:15):
There's instant accountability for anything that isn't perfect in the
private sector in this country, especially if you are a conservative.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But what is the accountability like.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
If you're a government employee, for example, maybe you're in
charge of the secret Service detail that's screwed up to
the point where you have a president of the United
States of America or the former president Donald Trump and
the leader to become the president of United States of America,
you know, get shot. How many people lose their jobs
when there's a building that is in plain sight from
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where the president a perfect shot for where the president's
standing on a stage, for example, and no one's on
that rooftop. What happens then? Is there any ability? The
answer is very clearly no. How do we know this
because the acting director testified before Congress and was asked like,
who's been fired?
Speaker 2 (01:11):
How many people have been fired? Has anyone been fired? Right?
Speaker 1 (01:15):
Well, we don't have anyone that's been fired. And you
may say, well, hold on, I'm going to fact check you, Ben,
that's not true.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
The FBI director is gone. That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
She resigned. She was not fired by the President of
the United States of America. Remember, Joe Biden fires no one.
In fact, I'm not sure there's anything you can do
in this administration to get you fired. But what was
even more shocking when the new acting director went before
the Senate. I've got a lot more to say about
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to hear what he said on one basic issue, which
is the most mind blowing twenty nine seconds of this
entire hearing.
Speaker 3 (03:46):
No information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever
passed to our personnel. How is that even possible? Do
you want to comment to that senator again? I believe
that information and this is probably something my colleague can
expound on, information that was in law enforcement local law
(04:07):
enforcement channels but did not cross over and make it
to Secret Service awareness.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Mike Lee. Sener, Mike Lee, you hear they're asking that
simple question. How is that even possible? Because the Acting
Secret Service Director, Ronald Road Junior his quote again, no
information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever Okay,
I'm want to make sure you understand that word he says,
was ever passed to our personnel? The personnel is he's saying,
(04:36):
our personnel, the Secret Service? Sener, Mike Lee, how is
that even possible? Not only that, but the FBI deputy director,
and this was also someone at the hearing, was asked
another question, and I want you to hear what the
FBI director had to say.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
The acting director had to say, listen to this.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
We don't have definitive evidence yet as to how he
got the rifle up there. Based on everything that's been
collected thus far, photos, video, eyewitness accounts, we do believe
he likely had it in the.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Backpack, broken down in the backpack. We're still assessing that.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Our laboratory has taken it, looked at the rifle itself
and measured that against the backpack itself, and if placed
in this backpack it would extend outside, it would have
been visible. We don't have anyone who has observed him,
who observed him with the backpack with a rifle barrel
or other part of it sticking out of the backpack,
(05:36):
but the rifle would not have fit fully into this
backpack to be concealed in whole.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
We have video that was.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Recently found of the shooter walking in a distance from
his car just before six pm, about five point fifty six,
I believe, and based on everything we have, we assess
that he returned to his vehicle at that time, I
got the backpack and then proceeded back to the area
(06:04):
and to the AGR building and then he's observed of
course on the roof just you know, minutes later, holding
the backpack in front of him. In fact, there's dashcam
footage from a police vehicle that shows him briefly traversing
the roof with the backpack in front of him, and
then it's just minutes after that that he's actually seen
(06:25):
by the officer who I described with the rifle on
the roof. It's possible that he broke the rifle down,
but we don't have conclusive evidence of that and took
it out of the bag on the roof in those
moments before and reassembled there. That's one of the theories
we're looking at and working on right now.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
We have a answer here. The FBI deputy director admits
that while the FBI quote has no definitive evidence of
how exactly the Trump jeter managed to get an AR
fifteen on the roof, he admits this juter most likely
had it in his backpack. We can't even figure that
out right now.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
I'm not blaming the FBI deputy director for that answer.
What I am saying is this was such a colossal
just you know what up that the question goes back
to what I said at the very beginning. How is
it possible that a hard working American man in this
country can put an off color joke out on the
(07:23):
Internet that somebody's offended by. We can find that person
and make sure they get fired from their job for that.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
But you have this big of a screw.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Up, and you have an acting Secret Service director who says, yeah,
we had no information regarding a weapon on the roof
that was ever passed to the Secret Service. They weren't
talking to local law enforcement. Yeah, we didn't have anybuy
in the roof there. Yet are bad? Hey, we lost
this guy out there that we didn't even know existed
because no one told us about it, because we weren't
contacting or in contact with the people on the ground
(07:55):
that we're seeing this guy. And we don't even know
how we got a gun on a roof? How is
it that with this many questions, basic questions, they can't answer.
Has no one been fired? No one has been fired
for any of this. There is a double standard. Do
you understand just how big the double standard is? Now,
(08:17):
while I'm telling you this, there is another major news
story that I want to get on your radar screen.
I'm going to ask syner Ted Cruz about this coming
up in a moment, and he actually went back and
forth with the leader of the acting director of the
Secret Service, and I'm going to play that for you.
It is an amazing conversation and back and forth of
(08:37):
him just dismantling the Secret Service director.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm going to have that in a moment.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
But before I get to that, there's other big breaking
news that you need to know about.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Hamas's political leader.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
It's now being reported has been killed in Iran in Tehran.
We go back to this over and over again. The
Biden administration has done nothing to stop Iran. We've given
the money, We've released funds, We've not actually dealt with
any of the sanctions that are quote on them actually
(09:08):
enforcing those sanctions on their oil. We've allowed them to
get rich. And what are they doing with the money?
They are giving it to these terrorist organizations Amasen has
bought to kill innocent people in Israel, including those kids
playing soccer. Over the weekend, we now know that the
Hamas leader was killed in an explosion in Iran's capital
(09:31):
of Tehran. The militant group and Iran State TV has
now said the news. The Independent is now looking at
this and they're saying yes, they believe this happened as
well as they're reporting it there with reporters on the ground.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Want to be clear here, we don't know anything else
at the moment while I'm recording this. But what we
do know is there's been some very big, big victories
now that are coming at the hands of Israel against
these leaders, and that is extremely important. It is extremely
(10:11):
important for people to understand that this is now a
moment where it seems like Iran is starting to be
able to take out these leaders. Iran has now said
officially that Hamas leader was quote assassinated in Tehran. That's
coming in As I'm recording this, some of this will change.
(10:32):
But what we know now is that apparently Israel has
killed Hesbla's number two where do they kill him in Beirut,
Lebanon and Hamas's number one in Iran in Tehran. Iran
is also the same country that has hired an assassination
team to kill Donald Trump, which has also been a
(10:56):
major issue. I'm going to break all of this down
for you, Senator Ted Cruz coming up. Senator Cruz and
I set down to do our podcast, and I want
you to hear what he had to say about the
Secret Services. Just horrific leadership and lack of answers that
they are giving about the assassination attempt on Donald Trump. Senator,
(11:20):
so set the stage for us real quick. I want
to play. Obviously, you're back and forth with the acting
director as you got to ask a lot of questions,
and it didn't go well for him. It's made a
lot of headlines, but set the stage of how important
this hearing was and why it was taking place.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
So this was yesterday morning. It was a joint hearing
of the Senate Judiciary Committee and the Senate Committee on
Homeland Security, and we head the acting director of the
Secret Service, the former director has finally resigned given the
catastrophic failures we saw, and the deputy director of the FBI.
And so it was hearing that went all morning, and
(11:59):
I got to say, there was enormous concerned, enormous skepticism.
We saw it from both Republicans and Democrats who were
asking about the disastrous failures of the Secret Service. And listen,
the acting director, he is somewhat better than the old director.
The old director was brazen, she was defiant. Her view
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was we owe nothing, we owe no accountability, We will
not answer any question. We did everything right to his credit.
The acting Director began his testimony by saying, we screwed up.
We screwed up really badly. And the fact that there
was not an agent on the roof where the shooter
was was utterly indefensible. That's a step in the right direction.
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That being said, he's stonewalled, and he stonewalled in a
way that was infuriating. And look, rather than me describe
it to you, just give a listen. Here's my questioning
of the Acting Director of the Secret Service yesterday morning.
Thank you, miss chairman, mister Row, thank you for being here.
I agree with what you said at the outset that
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the individual Secret Service agents demonstrated remarkable personal courage putting
their bodies in between the line of sight of the
shooter and the president. That being said, the bravery of
the line agents is quite different from the decisions of
Secret Service leadership. Secret Service leadership committed catastrophic security failures,
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indeed the worst security failures for the Secret Service since
nineteen eighty one, since the attempted assassination of President Ronald Reagan.
It is incumbent upon this committee to determine why those
security failures happened. Just after the shooting Secret Service put
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out an official statement from your spokesperson that says, there's
an untrue assertion that a member of the former president's
team requested additional security resources that those were rebuffed. This
is absolutely false. In fact, we added protective resources and
technology and capabilities as part of the increased campaign travel tempo.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
Was this tweet accurate with respect to Butler, Pennsylvania. It
is accurate, sir.
Speaker 5 (14:11):
It is accurate that the Trump team had not asked
for additional security and had not been rebuffed.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
If you're talking about Butler, Pennsylvania, all assets requested were approved.
If you're talking about the media reporting of assets requested,
there were times when assets were unavailable and not able
to be filled, and those gaps were staffed with state
and local law enforcement tactical assets.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
So I'm reading from the Washington Post July twentieth, twenty
twenty four. Secret Services denied requests for more security at
Trump events the opening paragraph. Top officials of the US
Secret Service repeatedly denied requests for additional resources and personnel
sought by Donald Trump's security detail in the two years
leading up to his attempted assassination. According to four people
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familiar with the requests. Is that right that repeatedly the
Trump detail asked for more resources and repeatedly Secret Service
leadership turned that down.
Speaker 3 (15:10):
That is not accurate, Senator, assets are requested. There's a
process that has made.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
How many requests did the Trump team or the Trump
Detail ask for?
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I can get you that number in a qu you don't.
You don't know now, so I can speak to the
ones that reported in the Washington Post and we can
go through them if you like.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
But you don't know how many requests there were in general?
Speaker 3 (15:33):
How many requests since twenty twenty one that the former
Trump detail has made a request.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
For asking You've had two weeks you had a spokesperson
put something out that is false on its face. By
the way, did you approve this statement when it went out?
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I don't know if I did or didn't say.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Has this spokesperson is he still employed?
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Does he still have still employed? Center?
Speaker 5 (15:51):
So he lied on behalf of the Secret Service? He
still has a job. Did your predecessor, the former director,
does she approve the statement?
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Senator? Are Comm's team they send out statements, they do
deconflict them, and they put them out.
Speaker 5 (16:05):
Did she approve this statement?
Speaker 3 (16:07):
I don't know if she did or did not, and
you don't know if you did either. I don't recall
approving it. Senator.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Will you commit to provide this committee in writing every
written request for additional resources from the Trump campaign or
the Trump Detail and every response from Secret Service?
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Senator, I will commit to providing responses and getting you
the information that you're seeking.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
Me ask you something, and who makes the decision to
deny those requests? Did you make that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Which requests are you telling about the ones that written
in the post?
Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (16:43):
The processor is that a detail will make a request
for either staffing technical assets that is handled between the
field office and the detail. It goes up to a
logistics office between our.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
Okay, so there's a bureaucracy. Is there a decision maker?
It's not a bureaucracy, Senator, it's a person that's a
decision maker. Is there one, Senator? It's a conversation. It's
not just an absolute yet. So let me tell you
what I believe. I believe that the Secret Service leadership
made a political decision to deny these requests, and I
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think the Biden administration has been suffused with partisan politics.
Did the same person who denied the request for additional
security to President Trump also repeatedly deny the request for
security to Robert F. Kennedy Junior, whose father was murdered
by an assassin and whose uncle was murdered by an assassin.
Did the same person make that decision?
Speaker 3 (17:37):
Senator? What I will tell you is that Secret Service
agents are not political.
Speaker 5 (17:42):
Okay, you're not answering my You know what, leadership by
the president, leadership appointed by the president is political. I
have a simple question, yes or no. Did the same
person deny the Trump requests that also denied the RFK request.
That's a yes or no question, Senator.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That is not a yes or no question. One. There
is a process for a candidate nominee to receive protection.
Is there a bi Cameron does the bike style Budy
artisan process that they.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Say by tameral bipartisan process. What can a candidate not
a congress We have a cameral Mister.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
Kennedy submitted a request that was referred over to the
Sea Pack.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
Okay, you're refusing to answer the question. Let me ask
because because the failures on that day were catastrophic. By
the way, is it true that on the day of
the of the Butler event, that Secret Service transferred agent
from President Trump to the First Lady H.
Speaker 3 (18:36):
No, sir, that's not true.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
That's been widely reported.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
It's not true. There was one airport agent that actually
went on the MANPIW request for the Trump detail. They
handled the arrival at the airport.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
What is the relative what was the relative size of
the Trump detail compared to the detail that is assigned
to the president of the First Lady? Uh?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Senator, the former president travels with a full shift just
like the president.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
What's the so the the exact same size. Is that
your testimony that President Trump had the same size detail
that President Biden has.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
On the day of Inballer the agent surrounding him. It
is the same number of agents surrounding the president today.
There is a difference between a sitting president who also
not only.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
And you're using president in a way that is not clear.
Is it your testimony that in Butler, Pennsylvania, Donald Trump
had the same number of agents protecting him that Joe
Biden has at a comparable event.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
I'm telling you the shift, the close protection shift surrounded Yes,
you asked me, Senator, I'm trying to answer it.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
You are not answering it is it the same number
of agents or not?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Senator, there is a difference between the sitting president of
the United States.
Speaker 5 (19:42):
And what's the difference the difference two x three x five?
Speaker 3 (19:46):
National demand, authority to launch a nuclear strike? The assets?
Speaker 5 (19:50):
How many more with the president?
Speaker 3 (19:53):
That's our former president.
Speaker 5 (19:54):
You're refusing to the number of Secret Service agent.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I'm interacting him.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Stop interrupting me. Go ahead, John refusing to answer clear
and direct questions. I am asking the relative difference in
the number of agents between those assigned to Donald Trump
and those assigned to Joe Biden. I'm not asking why
you assign more to Joe Biden. I'm asking is the difference?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Is it two x?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Is it three X? Is it five X? Is it
ten x?
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Senator, I will get you that number so you can
see it with your own eyes.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Senator number one, let's start the end. He says, he
will get you those numbers. This is not a hard question.
You asked about the difference in the details, and yet
he clearly didn't want to answer that question. Is that
because we're going to be so shocked by what that
answer is?
Speaker 5 (20:43):
So listening He engaged in a very deliberate effort at deception.
He said, the close protective detail is identical. Now understand
a Secret Service detail that is protecting someone. You have
the close protective detail, which are the agents that actually
surround the protect tea. You also have typically a perimeter
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that is often at three levels, the close protection, a
second perimeter level that's often where you see magnetometers, that's
often when you see people examined, and then you have
the furthest out perimeter. What he did not want to
answer is how many agents we're protecting Donald Trump, how
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many agents typically protect Joe Biden? And, by the way,
how many agents protect the first Lady Jill Biden. Now
I can tell you following up this cross examination, we
have what are called QFRS questions for the record, So
I am submitting written questions. I am asking the acting
Director of the Secret Service. Number one, how many agents
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were assigned to Donald Trump? Number two? How many are
typically assigned to Joe Biden?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Number three?
Speaker 5 (21:56):
How many are typically assigned the first Lady? Now, to
be clear, and this is where listen, there's some strategy
in terms of how you approach across examination like this
in public hearing. I did not ask him this in
a public hearing, why because he would refuse to answer.
He what he would say is, I'm not going to
disclose to you how many agents are assigned to Donald
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Trump because that would endanger the security of the protective detail,
and that that's a reasonable response. It's why I didn't
ask the question, because there's there's something that is known
as law enforcement confidential. So when I ask him a
question for the record, listen, I have TSSCI clearance. I
have the top level of security clearance there exists in
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the government. I want to know the exact number how
many friggin agents were assigned to Trump, how many were
assigned to the first Lady, how many were assigned to
the president. I'm not going to reveal those numbers, so
when I get them, I'm assuming he will tell me.
If he tells me, they're law enforcement confidential, I'm not
going to repeat them on this podcast. But what I
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am going to repeat is what I asked him that
he refused to answer. What is the relative difference. I understand,
Joe Biden, the sitting president's detail is larger than Trump's,
but by what margin? Is it double? Is it triple?
Is it five? X Is it ten X? He did
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not want to answer that question. The American people are
entitled to know that question.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
Let's also go back to some other questions that were
asked of him, and I think these are important. One
of them came from one of your good friends and colleagues,
Mike Lee, A very simple question.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Take a listen.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
No information regarding a weapon on the roof was ever
passed to our personnel. How is that even possible? Do
you want to comment to that Senator?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Again?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
I believe that information and this is probably something my
colleague can expound on, information that was in law enforcement
local law enforcement channels but did not cross over and
make it to Secret Service awareness.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
I mean, that might be one of the worst answers
I've ever heard Center and the fact that he's confirming
what we were terrified of, which is no information regarding
a weapon on the roof for the shooter on the
roof was ever passed to our personnel. Now, when he
refers to our personnel, he's clearly referring to those in
the Secret Service or the Secret Service sniper team. And
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Mike Lee's response is spot on right, how is that
even possible?
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (24:35):
Look, this was as I said, a catastrophic security failure
by the leadership of the Secret Service. They are not
taking responsibility for that failure. Now, I got to tell
you the way this hearing was set up, we had
five minute rounds. It is difficult to walk through the
details of what you need to get through in five minutes.
I ended up taking about seven, which then I went
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about two minutes over and that always leary. But let
me tell you some of the other questions that I
had that I was prepared to ask, but because the
acting director of the Secret Service was filibustering to some extent,
he was interrupting me to some extent, he was belligerent
to a significant extent, I didn't get to them. But
there are a whole series of questions that need to
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be answers. And by the way, I'm asking every one
of these questions in writing. So in a follow up
to hearing, you ask written questions Number one. The shooter
when he came into the rally site in Butler, Pennsylvania,
he was stopped by Secret Service at the metal detectors.
He had a rangefinder with him. That was at three pm.
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Why did Secret Service not detain him? Why did they
not question him about the ragefinder. Now, the acting director
of the Secret Service, he said, well, it was a
recreational rangefinder. It was like a golf rangefinder that he
used to look the disc to the pin. Now you're
right now, you're with your son at the World Championship.
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You probably have a golf rangefinder. Yes, you know what.
You know what in Butler, Pennsylvania, they weren't playing golf.
They weren't trying to figure out where the pin was.
There is no benign or innocious explanation for why someone
shows up at a political rally with a rangefinder. So
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that's question number one. Why didn't you detain him? Why
didn't you question him? Why don't you say, why the
hell do you have this rangefinder? They didn't. After that,
Two and a half hours later, at about five point thirty,
the shooter was seen. And by the way, let me
make it a side you will notice on this podcast,
I will never ever ever say the name of the shooter.
I think people that commit heinous acts like this are
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evil bastards who deserve to be forgotten by history. So
I will never I'll call him the shooter, but I
will not repeat his name. But the shooter at about
five thirty was observed using the rangefinder to measure the
distance from where he was to the podium where Donald
Trump was. The next obvious question, why did was the
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shooter not detained? Then question? Then he was observed by
law enforcement scoping out the distance. That is obvious and
highly suspicious activity. Third question, why were there not more agents?
We had repeated requests over and over and over again
from the Trump team. We need more agents, We need
more agents. Why were there not more agents in the
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outer perimeter? Why there were they not more agents? On
another question, why was there not a secret Service agent
on that rooftop? It is obvious it was about one
hundred and forty yards away from the president. That is
a clean line of sight for a sniper. That is
not a difficult shot. Why was there not a secret
Service agent on that roof to ensure that nobody else
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was there? He did not answer that question either.
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Why let me ask you this question.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Let me ask you this question on that because there's
a lot of people that ask me this, and I
want you to answer your perspective. If they didn't have
a team, right, There's been arguments when maybe they didn't
have a team to cover that roof, and so it
was lack of resources assign the agents. There are four
thousand Secret Service agents assign the agents.
Speaker 5 (28:25):
So one of the fundamental problems is the Secret Service.
I believe. I haven't had this confirmed, but here's what
I believe was happening. They were treating Donald Trump as
a former president. Now, listen, former presidents have Secret Service
protection for life. So Jimmy Carter right now, who is
almost one hundred years old, Jimmy Carter has a Secret
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Service detail now. To be honest, that's right, that's good.
But the threats against Jimmy Carter at this point in
his life are very low. There are just not a
lot of Trump. There are not a lot of active
murderers seeking to kill Jimmy Carter at the very end
of his natural life. We know, by the way, the
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Nation of Iran has hired assassins to murder Trump. So
you don't just have crazy ass lunatics who want to
shoot him. You literally have a nation state with billions
of dollars to fund assassins to murder him. And what
I believe the Secret Service, here's what I think happened.
The Biden administration is political in every decision it makes.
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I think they didn't want to up Trump's security detail
because if they did so, they would have to acknowledge
his legitimacy. Listen, Trump is not just a former president
who's retired and is off like painting paintings and building
houses for habitat for humanity. He is the Republican nominee
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to be president right now. He is I think likely
the next president of the United States and the Biden administration,
I believe this was all politics. The leadership of the
Secret Service did not want to up his detail because
it would be according credibility and seriousness to his campaign.
It is, I believe, the identical reason they refused repeatedly
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to give a Secret Service detailed Robert F. Kennedy Junior
now listen, you and I on this podcast months ago
called them out and said it is outrageous.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Robert F.
Speaker 5 (30:28):
Kennedy Junior, his father RFK Senior was murdered when he
was running for president of the United States. His uncle
JFK was murdered as the sitting president of the United States.
RFK Junior has had multiple death threats. He has had
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multiple attempts on his life and I believe the reason
that the Biden administration didn't give him a Secret Service
protection is they hate the fact that another Democrat is
running against what was the Joe Biden now Kamala Harris,
and if they gave Secret Services protection to him, it
would be acknowledging he was legitimate. That is, if that
is the basis, it is a purely political decision. It
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is indefensible and we need to get answers on it.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Senata, I want to ask you another couple of quick
questions about this, because there's so much that came out
in this hearing. One of them you mentioned a moment
ago was about Iran, and I want to play this
because I do think it just shows how shocking how
unprepared the Secret Service was, not just at this event,
but maybe at many other events that were supposed to
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be protecting Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
What is the nature of the Iran threat? The threat
to former President Trump that has been mentioned, but we
know that. Let me be clear here.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
The terrorist regime of Iran have been targeting people or
country for many, many years now. We've talked about that
here before. I want to be clear about that. From
the FBI stamp we have we know publicly, they've put
they've targeted former President Trump, they've called for his assassination.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
I mean that they know this, and they say they've
been doing this for years, and yet you let this
building just sit unattended. And I go back to the
question I asked you earlier, because it's a question many
have asked, if let's just say hypothetical center, they didn't
have the manpower, hypothetical for the Secret Service, and I
have the manpower, get it, Why wouldn't they have used
those that were on the ground there locally, the SWAT
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teams that were there locally to cover that.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
Roof well, and to some extent, so the Secret Service
was trying to pass the blame to local law enforcement.
They were saying, well, local law enforcement screwed up. And
so they said at one point that there were local
SWAT teams that were supposed to be monitoring that roof,
and there's been testimony that there was a local SWAT
team there and then they disappeared. Now they won't tell
us who it was. They won't tell us who made
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the decision to leave that post. There has been media
reports that there was someone assigned to be on that roof,
but it was too hot, so they left. We need
to know the answer to that that that is they're
they're not. But what's what the Secret Service is trying
to do is pass the buck to local law enforcement.
Say local law enforcement screwed up. But I'll tell you
a couple other questions that I was going to ask
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and that I am asking and writing. So we know,
and we've seen the videos. In fact, we played this
on this podcast at the time. There were multiple spectators
who were outside the perimeter who saw the shooter on
the roof. They saw the shooter on the roof with
a gun, with a rifle, and they began screaming and
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yelling and saying, there's a man on the roof, a
man on the roof of the gun. They began doing
that one minute and fifty seven seconds before the shooting began.
That's a lot of time. They told local law enforcement.
It was a sign in that outer perimeter there's a
man on the roof with the gun. Now, one of
the enormous problems is there was apparently zero coordination and
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communication between local law enforcement and Secret Service. So a
natural question a minute in fifty seven seconds before the
shooting began spectators observe a man on the roof of
a gun. Why did the local police officers who were
there not immediately radio Secret Service and say, there's a shooter.
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Pull President Trump down. That's what you do in that circumstance,
is you pull them down. If you have the protect
tee and you know that there's a potential sniper and
it's a dangerous situation, you go up, you pull them down,
say miss President, you need to come down for a second,
and you just pull them out of the harm's way
and then you go and deal with the law enforcement threat.
Why did they not do that for a minute in
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fifty seven second And what appears to be the answer,
but the acting director would not answer it is there
was no interoperability. There was no communication between local law
enforcement and the Secret Service. Now, and it gets even worse,
a local police officer climbed up on the shoulders of
another local police officer climbed up to the roof. So
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when the people are yelling, hey, there's a guy with
a gun, he climbed up to see it. He climbs
up to the roof. He pulls his head up and
the shooter turns and points his rifle at the officer's head.
Now the officer ducks because he doesn't want to get
shot in the head. And the testimony was he fell
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about eight feet to the ground. That happened twenty four
seconds before the first shot was fired. Now, in any
ordinary insane situation, the officer as he sees the rifle,
as he sees the man on the roof, so he knows.
You have a police officer that knows there's a shooter
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with a rifle on the roof while the president is talking.
Here's what should happen. The officer, as he's ducking down,
he pulls out his radio and he says gun gun
gun shooter, shooter, shooter. And if the Secret Service here
is that they have twenty four seconds for the detail
to run up to grab the president, to pull him
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down under the podium. And by the way, they also
have two counter snipers. If they get over the radio,
gun gun gun shooter, shooter shooter, you've got twenty four
seconds for the counter snipers to see the sniper, see
the shooter, and take him out. If that happens, President
Trump is not shot fire Chief Corey Comparatory is not murdered.
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The two other people who are severely injured or not injured.
And what appears to be the case, although the acting
director of the Secret Service would not confirm this, is
there was no radio interoperability. In other words, what the
local police officer saw, he could not communicate with Secret Service,
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and that is utterly unacceptable and what is infuriating. There
was nothing in the hearing yesterday that suggested they've changed
what they've done. So if they're relying on local law
enforcement for important security and yet they have no way
to communicate with local law enforcement about what they're seeing,
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it is fundamentally ineffective. And the most important question is
what are they doing to prevent this from happening again?
And there was zero answer to that question in the
hearing yesterday.
Speaker 1 (37:35):
Final question on this And somebody sent this to me
earlier today, and I'm just going to read it the
way it was sent to me. It says, quote, it's
sad that we live in the country now. We're a
hard working, regular guy who goes to work from seven
in the morning till nine o'clock at night or eight
o'clock put in fifty sixty hour week, will quote face
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more professional consequences for sharing in a defensive joke online.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
Then the unelected.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
Bureaucrats task with protecting our president will face for almost
getting the leading candidate killed. Now, according to the acting
Secret Service director, he admitted to you guys yesterday that
no agent assigned to the Trump July thirteenth rally has
been fired. And in fact there's only the secret that
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the head of the Secret Service that was forced to
resign after a horrible display on Capitol Hill. But it
doesn't seem like there's been any other accountability. And that's sad,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (38:34):
It's infuriating. So, as best I can tell, in almost
four years of Joe Biden Kamala Harris being in the
White House, not a single person has been fired from
any job whatsoever. You have the disastrous Afghanistan withdrawal. It
was an absolute debacle that was embarrassing. It undermined the
US military. It led to the deaths of thirteen servicemen
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and women. Nobody was fired, there was no accountability. You
have here the first shooting of a presidential candidate a
former president since nineteen eighty one, since Ronald Reagan, nobody
was fired in any sane world. The director of the
Secret Service would have resigned that day. In any sane world,
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the president would have fired the director of the Secret Service.
But there's no accountability. Now you now have the acting director.
And one question you asked me at the beginning of
this pot should the acting director be fired? And I'm
going to say, I don't know. I think the proof
is in the pudding. So on one level, the acting director,
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whom I don't know personally, but he's been a longtime
career Secret Service agent and officer. His answers demonstrated massively
more candor than the old director. The old director was
handpicked by Joe Biden and Joe Biden I believe the
old director was there. She used to be on Joe
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Biden's Secret Service detail when he was vice president. I
think they handpicked her because they wanted the Secret Service
to cover up Joe Biden's massive mental decline, and so
they put her in that place as a political decision
to protect his political vulnerabilities. That's what I believe. But
she was and we talked about this in a prior podcast.
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When she did on All Senators briefing, she stonewalled she
would not answer any questions. She said they did everything
perfectly except for the fact that the president was shot,
and by the way, to be clear, had the bullet
been a half inch to the left, Donald Trump would
be dead today. She described this as a success for
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the Secret Service. It's not a success. It is I
think God's providence. I believe God turned Trump's head. But
we came within a half inch of the history of
the world being changed that day. So compared to the
former director, the acting director is at least admitting they
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screwed it up, they did something wrong. He has some
modicum of candor. Here's my answer in terms of whether
he should be fired. How does he answer the questions
for the record that I and other senators ask him.
I believe the Secret Service needs radical transparency. Among the
questions I'm asking also is how many threats are directed
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right now in the last year against Donald Trump, how
many threats are directed against Joe Biden, how many threat
threats are directed against the first Lady? And had to
be clear, all three need to be protected. I'm not
saying that Joe or Joe Biden should not be protected.
But one of the public press reports is on the
day of the Butler rally, they pulled members of Trump's
security detail and put them on the First Lady's detail.
(41:52):
Now I don't know this, but Secret Service does. But
I'm going to venture a guess that the number of
threats against Trump versus against the First Lady it is
at least one hundred x. And it wouldn't surprise me
if it is a thousand x that I think Donald
(42:13):
Trump is the most threatened person on the face of
the planet. And if it is the case, it is
all the more indefensible that the Secret Service political leadership
would not provide sufficient agents to keep him safe. And
I'm asking them how many threats against Trump? How many
threats against Joe Biden? How many threats against Joe Biden.
(42:34):
Will see if they answer that, you know, based on
the testimony, I'm skeptical that they will.
Speaker 2 (42:40):
Senator.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Finally, I want to move to some of this breaking news,
and it is an important moment that's happening in the
Middle East right now. Israel is doing everything they can
to protect their people, and they're also having success at
taking out terrorists and terrorist leaders that have been orchestrating
many of these attacks on Israel, including taking out someone
(43:03):
in Iran in Tehran.
Speaker 5 (43:06):
Well that's exactly right. And there are two huge stories
in terms of the war in Israel, the war against
Amas and against Hesbela. One story that broke late this
afternoon and evening is a story that says IDF kills
HESBELA commander behind brutal attack on children's soccer field. And
(43:30):
this is a Fox News story that's being reported everywhere.
Fuad Shukar, whose death is unconfirmed by Hesbela, was wanted
by US government connection to the nineteen ninety nineteen eighty
three Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut, and IDF forces on
Tuesday announced the death of Fuad Shukar, the HESBELA commander
(43:51):
who was behind the drone strike that killed twelve children
and teens over the weekend. So over the weekend we
saw HESBELA fire rocket in northern Israel. It hit a
soccer field and twelve Israeli children were murdered. Continuing back
from the Fox News story, Shuker, who was also known
as haj Mohsen, joined Hesbel in nineteen eighty five. He
(44:15):
was also sought by the US government over his connection
to the nineteen eighty three suicide bombing of the marine
corpberracks in Beirut that killed two hundred and forty one
US service members. Schuker served as a senior advisor to
Hesbeli leader Hassan Noasrala at the time of his death
in an IDF strike on Tuesday in southern Bey Route.
(44:38):
The IDF confirmed the news in a press release announcing
that its fighter jets eliminated Hesbela terrorist organization's most senior
military commander, Shuker in Lebanon's capital city. Now understand, this
is a murderer responsible for murdering two hundred and forty
(44:59):
one on US service members. This is a reason to celebrate. Listen,
the enemies of Israel are the enemies of America, the
enemies of Jews. Those who want to kill Jews want
to kill Christians. Hamas and Hesbela. They hate Israel, but
they hate America too. And this is an example where
(45:20):
Israel fighting the war, fighting the war against Tamas and
Hesbela at the same time is defeating someone who has
murdered hundreds of Americans. That is an enormous victory for
this country. And then let me say secondly, so you
and I are recording this podcast, it is eleven forty pm.
At eleven forty pm, this news has just broken, so listen.
(45:43):
Any time you're dealing with matters of life and death
and war in peace, the news can move. So what
we're recording right now, it may be different by six
am tomorrow. But at eleven forty pm, let me read
the AP story. Iran says Hamas leader Ismail Haniya was
(46:04):
assassinated in Tehran, and let me just read the AP story.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniya was assassinated in Tehran, Iran's perimilitary
Revolutionary Guards said early Wednesday, no one immediately claimed responsibility
for the assassination, but suspicion immediately fell on Israel No Duh,
(46:25):
which is vowed to kill Haniya and other leaders of
Hamas over the group's October seventh attack on Israel that
killed one two hundred people and saw some two hundred
and fifty others taken hostage. Haniya was in Tehran to
attend Iran President Masud Pezeshkians swearing in on Tuesday. Iran
(46:48):
gave no details on how Haniya was killed, and the
Guard said the attack was under investigation. Analysts on Iranian
state television immediately began blaming Israel for the attack. Is
do not immediately comment, but it often doesn't when it
comes to assassinations carried out by their masade intelligence agency.
To come up within twenty four hours with number one
(47:12):
killing the top military commander of Hesbelah responsible for murdering
twelve Israeli children in northern Israel with a rocket attack
and also responsible for two hundred and forty one American
servicemen and women being killed in Beirut in nineteen eighty three.
That's a big damn deal. And then this taking out
(47:33):
the top leadership of AMAS. It's a big, big victory
for Israel and a big, big victory for America.
Speaker 1 (47:41):
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and I'll see you back here tomorrow
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