February 28, 2025 • 33 mins
1. Background:
- We discuss the release of the Epstein files and the controversy over the FBI's handling of these documents.
- Attorney General Pam Bondi has accused the FBI's New York office of withholding critical Epstein documents against the orders of their superiors, including the FBI Director Cash Patel and the President of the United States.
2. Key Events:
- Bondi sent a letter to Patel, revealing that the New York FBI office had not provided the full set of documents related to Epstein, despite repeated requests.
- The letter, dated February 27, was obtained by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by guests at a White House briefing.
3. White House Briefing:
- At the White House briefing, conservative influencers and journalists were given Phase One briefing books on the Epstein files.
- Bondi and Patel explained that rogue FBI officials in New York were withholding documents and possibly destroying them.
4. **Details from the Letter**:
- Bondi's letter states that she had requested the full Epstein files before taking office but received only about 200 pages, mostly consisting of flight logs, contact lists, and victim information.
- A source within the FBI informed Bondi that thousands of pages of documents were being withheld.
5. Immediate Actions:
- Bondi directed Patel to deliver the full Epstein files to her office by 8 AM on Friday and to conduct an investigation into why her orders were not followed.
- The Department of Justice corroborated Bondi's claims, stating that the FBI Field Office in New York had withheld documents.
6. Media and Public Reaction:
- The media criticized the release, claiming there was nothing new in the documents.
- Conservative influencers were chosen to receive the briefing, bypassing mainstream media, which led to further criticism.
8. Interview with Chad Prather:
- The document features an interview with Chad Prather, who attended the White House briefing.
- Prather discusses his experience, the significance of the briefing, and the administration's efforts to be transparent.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
There is a very complicated story that I'm going to
do everything I can to break it down for you,
and it is about the Jeffrey Epstein files. There was
a group of individuals that were asked to come to
the White House that received part one of the Epstein files,
and I'm going to have that guest, Chad Prather join
us in just a moment. But before we get to that,
(00:23):
I want you to understand the real part of this
story that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot
of people saying they're angry by what was released, basically
implying that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a
reason why there was nothing new there, and this is
what you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has
(00:45):
told the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York
FBI office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are
doing this against the wishes and the command of their
bosses that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the
(01:05):
President of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney
General Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Ptel to handle
the seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly
refusing to provide her with the quote full set of
documents related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That
(01:25):
is what a letter from her office revealed to the
American people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated
February the twenty seven, from Bondie to Patel was obtained
by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests
that they actually received this letter at the White House Briefing. Now,
(01:47):
at the White House Briefing, they were given Epstein files,
Phase one briefing books on exactly the laying out of
what they do have. The big part of the meeting
which was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam
Bondi and the FBI director explained to them very clearly
that there are New York FBI officials that have gone
(02:10):
completely rogue. The ag letter says the FBI in New
York is withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the
reports of the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well.
Bondi began her letter by saying, this, before you came
into office, I requested the full and complete files related
(02:31):
to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received
approximately two hundred pages of documents, which consisted primarily of
flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims'
names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was
the full set of documents responsive to my request, and
was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received
(02:55):
the full set of documents. The Attorney General continued before
we reporting that she got a tip from a source
at the FBI Field Office in New York, stating that
the bureau was withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I
learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in
New York was in possession of thousands of pages of
(03:17):
documents related to the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein,
Bondi continued in her letter to the FBI director. Despite
my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of
any of these files. Now, let's just pause for a
second and dissect what we just learned. Pam Bondi, who
(03:39):
is the Attorney journal the United States of America, who
is in charge of the FBI, has rogue deep state
officials in the FBI office in New York that deliberately
lied to her face and claimed that they had given
her all of the documents, when in fact they may
have given her less than about ten percent percent of
(04:00):
what they actually have on hand. This is the deep
state and just how corrupt our government has become now.
Bondi noted that she had already spoken to Cashptel after
receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing that the FBI
director was just as surprised as I was to learn
the new information quote unquote. She then handed Caspatel too
(04:24):
hard deadlines. These are important for you to understand. By
eight am on Friday morning, the FBI will deliver the
full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents,
audio and video recordings, and material related to Jeffrey Epstein
and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained.
(04:46):
That is deadline number one in this letter. Deadline number two,
she says, I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate
investigation to why my order to the FBI was not followed.
You will deliver to me a comprehend report of your
findings and proposed personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion,
(05:07):
Bondi added that she knows that Patel has committed to
transparency for the American people, and that is exactly what
they did together at the White House on Thursday. Now,
a Department of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the
FBI Field office in New York with held Epstein files
(05:27):
in a statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also
claimed that Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on
the same page. Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying,
quote new the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the
last forty eight hours a DJ source telling Real Clear
Politics that additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the
(05:49):
DOJ by the FBI Field Office in New York. I'm
told that the letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate,
but the speculation that the FBI Director Patel a Bondi
are at odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent
of the same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now,
of course, the media is trying to do anything they
(06:10):
can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit,
especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we
now know from the meeting at the White House with
those that were asked to come and receive Phase one
of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear
that the two people are on the same page, and
the letter that she was sending to Cashptel was really
(06:33):
a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the
job that I am instructing you to do. It was
empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many
documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the
FBI Field Office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to
the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox
(06:56):
News's Jesse Waters primetime show that are office would begin
releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she
did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the
words that she was using on TV saying that she
had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing
(07:18):
a lot of information. Pambondi going on TV allowed for
the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that is
exactly why that brave person came over and said, Hey,
you don't have all of the files that you've been
told that you have In other words, there are a
lot of people in the deep state that have been
(07:40):
lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful
people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just
point out one final thing, there are a lot in
the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers
were the ones that got this story that they went
around the mainstream media. They were spotted out the White
(08:00):
House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one.
There were people that were so angry because this was
the media getting cut out of the big story. They're
obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and
say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why
because they didn't get the binder. And the people that
(08:20):
were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives,
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it and also a morning show called Dear America. He
got the phone call to go to the White House
(11:37):
and to have a conversation about the Epstein files and
even get that binder that's now become famous. Chad joins
me now to talk about this. Chad, Let's start from
the very beginning. Uh, when did you get asked to
come to the White House? And did you even know
what the meeting was gonna be about or who was going.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
To be there? Hey, Ben, it's gonna talk to you man.
I did not know. In fact, we were invited for
a completely different reason. We were not invited on the
basis of knowing anything about the Epstein file. In fact,
we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D.
Vance to talk about messaging and specifically if we had
(12:16):
opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and
talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing.
And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort
of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to
deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature
(12:38):
so that the truth could get out there to people,
I mean people with an audience, people like me and
people like you. And this was a part of that.
What happened as we met with various cabinet members today,
it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it.
Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director
Cash Mattel of the FBI, and she said, you know,
(12:59):
in as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking
gun here, she said, but we do want to give
you phase one. She said. The significant thing that we
want to expose is there's a letter that reveals that
we're missing thousands of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously,
when I's dropped in your lap and then immediately get
called in the Oval Office to visit with the president.
(13:19):
You're excited. I mean, especially if there's anyone out there
like myself and many others who have done research and
trying to expose the tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors.
You're excited about that. And obviously you want to be
able to demonstrate to your audience that the administration is
(13:40):
trying to do what they said they were going to do.
Obviously wasn't taking that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's a lot of turf war going on right now.
And I really want to break this down because there
were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come
in for this meeting, and all of you were told
it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously
that was to get you there to keep this quiet.
There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there
that were left out of this meeting that are now
(14:03):
angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a
big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's
nothing new in these files. That this is an embarrassment,
it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats saying this. There's
a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages to you going,
how do we screw this up so bad?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Today?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
There's nothing in here that we didn't already know. This
is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think that's accurate.
And you just mentioned that letter, and that's something that
we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands of Epstein documents,
so yet you got confirmation that file today of what
a lot of what we'd heard about. But you mentioned
(14:40):
that letter, and so explain how important that is to
this being quote phase one.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't
phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they
wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front
of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to
forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney
General BONDI. Whether you agree with it or not, I mean,
we're all hopeful that this administration is going to do
what they say and they're going to be transparent. It's
(15:07):
not that there's nothing in that notebook, it's just not
what we want yet, And that's a big difference. We
all want more. We all demand the exposure and the truth.
We know that this is a serious subject matter. It's
a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question, there
are those who are out there who are saying, you know,
(15:29):
why weren't we invited, Well, there were literally fifteen sixteen
seats around the table. We were invited for a completely
different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben, and
I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers and
creators and hosts out there that I know, if they
had gotten the message that I got to be there,
they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said,
(15:50):
I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested
in being a part of that, because there was nothing
about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other
than we wanted to sit down and talk about message points.
We didn't ask for this folder. We didn't expect this folder.
We didn't know it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Be clear, when you guys all got there, you just
and you and look everybody. I'm assuming it's like a
mini family reunion, as I call it. When I was
asked to go to the White House for back for
the State of the Union in twenty twenty, the last
day of the Union, Donald Trump gave before the election
back then, you walk in the room pretty much you
(16:28):
know everybody. It's a tight conservative community that we live in.
You probably knew everybody. And did you notice then that
something was different, like, okay, this seems a little different
than what we were sold.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, no, no, I thought we were on track for
everything that was going to be I think that a
general BONDI was trying to do something, as I said,
in good faith. Now to that degree, what in back
to your prior question, what that notebook does prove? And
there was some information in there that I had not seen.
(17:01):
And I've done extensive research on Epstein. I know more
about Epstein than the average person knows. We've done some
very deep dives on Epstein and exposed a lot of
things that people have never thought about. There were some
things in there that I've never seen before. To me,
and to her defense, she said, it's not a smoking gun,
but it's the first step. What we want you to
see is that there's a lot of documents that have
(17:23):
been withheld by the FBI. That's the significance to this notebook.
In my opinion, yes, we want more, but what this
notebook proves is that there is more. There's a lot
more and the FBI has been withholding that. So to
post that, you know, to post a picture with the
notebook to me is to say, okay, we want to
(17:46):
show you one that the administration is trying to give
us some information. They're exposing what's being withheld. But also
this is a post that says, hey, we want to
hold you accountable to give us this information as well.
Now I can't explain while others were invited or not
invited or whatever, this was a matter that everybody was
(18:06):
called off guard. And I promise you'd been anybody that
had received that would I mean, what are we supposed
to do throw it back in the face of Attorney
General Bondie and say we don't want this notebook? No,
of course we're going to take it. So as soon
as she gave it to us, we were immediately and
you know how it is. It's President Trump called us
into the Oval office for a visit. We had to
get up and leave. We didn't know what was in
the notebook and.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Then a right, So so hold on, so let's talk
about today. You guys, am, assuming did you come in?
And I want to paint this picture because it's just
when you get to experiences that really is fun. Did
you go in through security by the EEO B and
then they walked you guys into the briefing room. Did
you come in by the White House side on the
West Wing side? And then when did and then where
(18:48):
all did you guys go, because it sounds like you
had multiple briefings like here and then oh, we're going
to go over here and then we're going to the
Oval Office.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, no, we didn't actually, and you're familiar with the
West Wing. We went into the West Wing entrance, and
for those of you who don't know, you immediately check
your cell phone, camera, equipment, device, whatever into a locker.
After the cocaine scandal of July back two years ago,
we all have about the lockers in the right So
there's a locker, and you don't take a phone with you.
(19:17):
So we spend hours in there without a phone, without
a camera. We're not in there looking things up on
our phone, checking out the White House WiFi. We're not
doing that. You know. It's a very secure space. So
we spent the entire time in the Roosevelt Room, which
of course is the conference room, which is one door
separated from the Oval Office. President Trump came in a
little point of trivia. Note it was kind of cool.
(19:38):
Harrison Butker, the placekicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I
probably shouldn't out him like that, but he was there
for a visit. It's great to shake his hand. And
then the cabinet members came in and visited with us.
We did not expect every and we didn't know who
was coming. We didn't know who would be coming next.
In fact, one of our mutual friends he told me,
(20:00):
he said, I did not know this order was gonna happen. Uh.
And so as soon as I got dropped in our lamp,
we were immediately called in the Oval office. Now you
know you come out the back door. We did not know.
Here's the here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Here, by the way, was that your first time in
the OV? Was that the for your first office?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
First time in the office?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Can you and I? Can you and I just take
a moment and and and and explain for people I
don't care you. You have been very blessed in your
life and I have to have moments in our in
our careers where we've gotten to do some pretty cool things.
The very first time I went to the Oval office.
Chad was was with Bush uh in this second term
(20:40):
after I worked on the campaign in four and when
I walked in that Oval office, it was a pinch
you moment. I don't care how many times you've seen
it on TV. It is amazing. And I had the
opportunity to go in that over office quite a few
times in his administration, and then I got to go
in Uh in the in the in the Trump administration
(21:00):
is first term in office when he's forty five. Just
how explain that your feelings just getting to walk in
there and experience.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That, you know, it's one of those moments where obviously
the president had come into the Roosevelt Room and addressed
this for about five minutes, and then he says, I
want you to bring him into the Oval. And you
go in there, and it's surreal that if you're anything
like me, and you're you're a history buff or an
architecture buff, and you've seen this iconic room on TV
(21:32):
or movies or depicted, it's surreal you're taking it all
in from a new perspective. It's not a camera angle.
I mean, it's in three D. You're there, and so
it's a special moment and of course, the President's being
his typical, jovial, candid, comedic self. And it was a
great time. He spent you know, half an hour with us,
told us some stories. It was fantastic, and you know,
(21:55):
you go in there, and that's one of the reasons
why there's a lot of controversy right now. You know,
we tweet a lot, we post a lot on x
we share a lot on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, truth, all
these places we're sharing. I know that people think we
just have this team of people doing it. And when
DC Draino had posted his picture with the notebook, I
(22:15):
copied his post and I put it in my notes
and I was going to edit it and then attribute
part of it back as quote, and I copy and
pasted the wrong thing and posted it to Facebook. And
so a lot of people blew up, saying you this
is this is messaging from the White House. And I'm like,
I promise you were not that sophisticated when you get
rushed out of the Oval office after me.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
By the way, not knowing and not knowing you're going
to go there. And if he did what he did
when I was there, it's like you go to the
gift shop. He loves you to come in, and he
loves you to leave with a bunch of stuff like you.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Laugh, challenge coins and pins and hats and golf towels.
I mean, it's insane. Do you want to die at
coke and so you come out after breathing that rarefied air,
You're not really in the ultimate presence of mind. Now,
I will say this man a lot of people. You know,
I made a post on x about that, saying, listen,
my fault. I copied and pasted Draino. You know, he's
(23:09):
a friend of mine. I copied and pasted him. I
pasted the wrong thing back. I didn't do the edited version,
and so I went back and edited it on Facebook
and attributed it as a quote to him. But you know,
the internets forever and people take screenshots, and you know, like,
I have nothing to hide here. I've never received a
penny from the White House. Neither has anybody else. I mean,
coming up here, I'll just be totally transparent coming up here,
(23:30):
staying where I'm staying, you know, eating food, traveling everything.
It probably cost me about thirty five hundred to four
thousand dollars just to be here, for this two or
three day stint. And so this idea that we're like
Harry Sissen or Chris Mallory is a joke. Simply just
simply not the case. So it is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It is truly shocking when you see those that attack,
because you've got this incredible honor to be there and yeah,
and to see this and look, this wasn't just a
meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that
you guys talked about as well. And I want you
to understand that this was not just one thing only, No.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And we can walk you through it. I mean, from
Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy talking
about what he plans to do with HHS, you know,
Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of
the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a
good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able
to talk about I mean, I literally all these people
(24:30):
posting on social media. I literally talked to both the
Vice President and the President about them holding not just
the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media
owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords, and
they both assured us and gave us a plan of
action whereby they're going to take care of that. So
(24:51):
all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities
were completely different. This just got dropped in our lap.
There was some great information that was shared. There was
some and if you've ever been in there this administration,
and I've been around cabinet members, I've been around the President,
I've been around you know, a lot of important people.
There was a sense of camaraderie, almost backslapping in the
(25:11):
Oval Office today as all of them were there. And
it makes me excited about not just the messaging, but
it makes me excited that I feel like this this
administration is going to do what it says. I totally
got the vibe from Pambondi and Director Patel that they
fully intend to release everything they get their hands on.
(25:32):
You know, people are so jaded and cynical at this point,
and I completely understand that nobody wants that information more
than me. And the reason is not for you know,
clicks and likes or to get a scoop on something.
We're genuinely excited about justice. There are there are women
and families out there that deserve closure. In no means
(25:55):
did we mean to post anything that was going to
bring them more harm. We fully ex infected there to
be more in that notebook, but again to look at it,
what we realized is once again the reason we're jaded
is this FBI has been lying to us.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Let's go to that headline because I think this is
a really important point. The FBI is what we've been
told with how thousands of pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents,
Pambonni says, and she's demanding that they be turned over.
This is the deep state, and this is I'm assuming
what you guys got a briefing on. I want you
to expand on this. But they'd said she's demanding that
(26:33):
they be turned over by Friday morning. I mean, this
is the attorney general. You've got Cashpttel, who was there
today and his own employees in essence, are not serving
the president. They're not serving the FBI director, they're not
serving the attorney general. They're going rogue and BONDI disclosed
this letter the FBI director Casptel, which has now been
put out there that this was a whistle blower, a
(26:55):
tipster that said that all but quote approximately two hundred
pages of documents were They're still being kept secret at
the FBI office in New York, despite her repeated request
for the full Epstein files. That is a takeaway from
y'all's meeting today.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Anyone, anyone in our shoes, would be excited. Anyone sitting
in those seats today would be excited. They would have
responded the same way. They would have been hopeful. They
would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that,
and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today
and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said,
you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm
(27:31):
reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of
people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information,
Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some
stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking
at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also,
you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and
(27:53):
Fox News and all these others is when we went out,
obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming
in to date, the presspool was there in full force.
They were out back when we walked out. You know,
unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a
giant pile of cameras and uh reporters and they're taking
(28:13):
the pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know, it's
a it's it is in the messaging of the Trump
administration reminding the mainstream media that they're not kings and
they're not gods.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But by the way, you better frame the picture of
you with that binder walking out. I saw it before
I even called you, and I just said I was
proud of you. Congratulations. Like I hope you frame it
and put it over the mantel, my friend. If you don't,
I'm gonna do it for you for Christmas and and
and I'm gonna charge you for it, because I'm gonna
you should do it on your own.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There's you know, we go out there and obviously we
we all have our disdain for the mainstream media. We
all have that that feeling of ire towards them. Uh
and you know, obviously there's a little bit on the
part of some some folks to want to say, look,
we're receiving information that you're not receiving. You know what
if that, if that makes you mad, then I'm sorry,
(29:07):
I can't help you. Uh. This is a populous president.
He is a guy who is he He's not going
to play the party games. He doesn't care whose feelings
he hurts. We're all that way if you're going to
be if you're gonna put up with all the crap
we've put up with for over the last eight years,
with the persecution, the name calling, and the and the
you know, gosh, the demonetization and the deep latforming. Yeah,
(29:29):
we we don't mind a little middle finger to the
mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
As we should well, and they don't report this news
and they lie. And so that goes back to my
my my final question for you, which is those that
are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that it was
a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new. The point
I think that I want to make sure this audience
understands is that this is the beginning of what we
(29:57):
of of this, not the end. Is is that a
fair way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, from the sentiment that I got from both General
Bondi and UH Secretary or sorry, Director Patel was they
literally and they were amicable with one another. I mean,
you read that note, you read that letter that Pam
Bondi wrote to Cash Pattel, and you would think, oh,
somebody's in trouble here, there's this is sort of a rebuke,
(30:22):
but it wasn't. And she wanted to make sure that
everybody knew that was clear. They are working in conjunction
with one another in this new Department of Justice to
make sure is that this information comes out. Uh. And
and I believe them. I believe them, you know, Ben,
I don't. I don't. I don't suffer fools. And man,
I can see through people. I'm pretty intuitive. But this
(30:42):
this administration what I saw today, the sense, the atmosphere,
just as I said earlier, just the backslapping camaraderie of
a team working together. Uh. To use Carolyn Levette's phrase,
this you can't keep up. It's a whirlwind. This administration
is working around the clock. I truly believe them.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well, I think I agree. As I was sitting last
week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Cinder Cruz.
We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when
he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration
just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's
us against the world, and we are going to do
(31:25):
our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going
to work together. There is none of this. This is
my turf, and you stay off at and it sounds
like from the way that you met with so many
cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to
you as well.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a
cowboy hat and somehow got popular posting truck videos years ago.
The fact that I was sitting in the Oval office
today or sitting down with the Vice president and they're
willing to talk to me and share with me their priorities,
that should tell you I'm nobody. I was the dumbest
(31:59):
guy in the room. Tell you how to sixteen people
in that room, I was the dumbest guy in the room. Then,
I'm telling you there were some intelligent folks in there.
But the fact that they would extend an invitation graciously
to me and give me the hospitality to come in there,
it's surreal.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, we ain't fly over country. My friend, we ain't
fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and
that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you
and I are friends. You're a real person with a
real story to tell, with a real audience of the
hard working men and women that just want to be
left alone by their government and they want to have
a great life for their kids and their grandkids. And
going around the media and talking directly to you and others.
(32:37):
I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations, I'm
proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope it's
a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad that
they're looking to talk to people like you in these
moments who can get it out to everybody else. I'll
say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen Grab Chad show.
It's great Chad break their show, and then he does
a morning show as well called Dear America Rica. Wherever
(33:00):
you can get your podcasts, grab it, Chad. I appreciate
you taking the time to come on here and talk
and tell people what it was really like today. We
try to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines,
but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm
so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Thank you, Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris
isn't president.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thank God aim into that. Chad Pray through my friends.
Chad Pray the show. Dear America, grab wherever you get
your podcasts.
There is a very complicated story that I'm going to
do everything I can to break it down for you,
and it is about the Jeffrey Epstein files. There was
a group of individuals that were asked to come to
the White House that received part one of the Epstein files,
and I'm going to have that guest, Chad Prather join
us in just a moment. But before we get to that,
(00:23):
I want you to understand the real part of this
story that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot
of people saying they're angry by what was released, basically
implying that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a
reason why there was nothing new there, and this is
what you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has
(00:45):
told the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York
FBI office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are
doing this against the wishes and the command of their
bosses that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the
(01:05):
President of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney
General Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Ptel to handle
the seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly
refusing to provide her with the quote full set of
documents related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That
(01:25):
is what a letter from her office revealed to the
American people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated
February the twenty seven, from Bondie to Patel was obtained
by independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests
that they actually received this letter at the White House Briefing. Now,
(01:47):
at the White House Briefing, they were given Epstein files,
Phase one briefing books on exactly the laying out of
what they do have. The big part of the meeting
which was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam
Bondi and the FBI director explained to them very clearly
that there are New York FBI officials that have gone
(02:10):
completely rogue. The ag letter says the FBI in New
York is withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the
reports of the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well.
Bondi began her letter by saying, this, before you came
into office, I requested the full and complete files related
(02:31):
to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received
approximately two hundred pages of documents, which consisted primarily of
flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts, and a list of victims'
names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was
the full set of documents responsive to my request, and
was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received
(02:55):
the full set of documents. The Attorney General continued before
we reporting that she got a tip from a source
at the FBI Field Office in New York, stating that
the bureau was withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I
learned from a source that the FBI Field Office in
New York was in possession of thousands of pages of
(03:17):
documents related to the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein,
Bondi continued in her letter to the FBI director. Despite
my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of
any of these files. Now, let's just pause for a
second and dissect what we just learned. Pam Bondi, who
(03:39):
is the Attorney journal the United States of America, who
is in charge of the FBI, has rogue deep state
officials in the FBI office in New York that deliberately
lied to her face and claimed that they had given
her all of the documents, when in fact they may
have given her less than about ten percent percent of
(04:00):
what they actually have on hand. This is the deep
state and just how corrupt our government has become now.
Bondi noted that she had already spoken to Cashptel after
receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing that the FBI
director was just as surprised as I was to learn
the new information quote unquote. She then handed Caspatel too
(04:24):
hard deadlines. These are important for you to understand. By
eight am on Friday morning, the FBI will deliver the
full and complete Epstein files to my office, including all records, documents,
audio and video recordings, and material related to Jeffrey Epstein
and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained.
(04:46):
That is deadline number one in this letter. Deadline number two,
she says, I'm also directing you to conduct an immediate
investigation to why my order to the FBI was not followed.
You will deliver to me a comprehend report of your
findings and proposed personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion,
(05:07):
Bondi added that she knows that Patel has committed to
transparency for the American people, and that is exactly what
they did together at the White House on Thursday. Now,
a Department of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the
FBI Field office in New York with held Epstein files
(05:27):
in a statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also
claimed that Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on
the same page. Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying,
quote new the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the
last forty eight hours a DJ source telling Real Clear
Politics that additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the
(05:49):
DOJ by the FBI Field Office in New York. I'm
told that the letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate,
but the speculation that the FBI Director Patel a Bondi
are at odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent
of the same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now,
of course, the media is trying to do anything they
(06:10):
can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit,
especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we
now know from the meeting at the White House with
those that were asked to come and receive Phase one
of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear
that the two people are on the same page, and
the letter that she was sending to Cashptel was really
(06:33):
a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the
job that I am instructing you to do. It was
empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many
documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the
FBI Field Office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to
the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox
(06:56):
News's Jesse Waters primetime show that are office would begin
releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she
did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the
words that she was using on TV saying that she
had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing
(07:18):
a lot of information. Pambondi going on TV allowed for
the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that is
exactly why that brave person came over and said, Hey,
you don't have all of the files that you've been
told that you have In other words, there are a
lot of people in the deep state that have been
(07:40):
lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful
people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just
point out one final thing, there are a lot in
the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers
were the ones that got this story that they went
around the mainstream media. They were spotted out the White
(08:00):
House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one.
There were people that were so angry because this was
the media getting cut out of the big story. They're
obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and
say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why
because they didn't get the binder. And the people that
(08:20):
were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives,
many of them on social media. You know some of
them as things like the libs of TikTok or d
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(08:42):
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I mentioned earlier, a dear friend of mine Chadprayther. He
is the host of the Chadpraythro Show you should download
it and also a morning show called Dear America. He
got the phone call to go to the White House
(11:37):
and to have a conversation about the Epstein files and
even get that binder that's now become famous. Chad joins
me now to talk about this. Chad, Let's start from
the very beginning. Uh, when did you get asked to
come to the White House? And did you even know
what the meeting was gonna be about or who was going.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
To be there? Hey, Ben, it's gonna talk to you man.
I did not know. In fact, we were invited for
a completely different reason. We were not invited on the
basis of knowing anything about the Epstein file. In fact,
we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D.
Vance to talk about messaging and specifically if we had
(12:16):
opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and
talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing.
And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort
of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to
deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature
(12:38):
so that the truth could get out there to people,
I mean people with an audience, people like me and
people like you. And this was a part of that.
What happened as we met with various cabinet members today,
it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it.
Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director
Cash Mattel of the FBI, and she said, you know,
(12:59):
in as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking
gun here, she said, but we do want to give
you phase one. She said. The significant thing that we
want to expose is there's a letter that reveals that
we're missing thousands of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously,
when I's dropped in your lap and then immediately get
called in the Oval Office to visit with the president.
(13:19):
You're excited. I mean, especially if there's anyone out there
like myself and many others who have done research and
trying to expose the tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors.
You're excited about that. And obviously you want to be
able to demonstrate to your audience that the administration is
(13:40):
trying to do what they said they were going to do.
Obviously wasn't taking that.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
There's a lot of turf war going on right now.
And I really want to break this down because there
were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come
in for this meeting, and all of you were told
it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously
that was to get you there to keep this quiet.
There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there
that were left out of this meeting that are now
(14:03):
angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a
big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's
nothing new in these files. That this is an embarrassment,
it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats saying this. There's
a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages to you going,
how do we screw this up so bad?
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Today?
Speaker 1 (14:20):
There's nothing in here that we didn't already know. This
is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think that's accurate.
And you just mentioned that letter, and that's something that
we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands of Epstein documents,
so yet you got confirmation that file today of what
a lot of what we'd heard about. But you mentioned
(14:40):
that letter, and so explain how important that is to
this being quote phase one.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't
phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they
wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front
of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to
forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney
General BONDI. Whether you agree with it or not, I mean,
we're all hopeful that this administration is going to do
what they say and they're going to be transparent. It's
(15:07):
not that there's nothing in that notebook, it's just not
what we want yet, And that's a big difference. We
all want more. We all demand the exposure and the truth.
We know that this is a serious subject matter. It's
a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question, there
are those who are out there who are saying, you know,
(15:29):
why weren't we invited, Well, there were literally fifteen sixteen
seats around the table. We were invited for a completely
different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben, and
I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers and
creators and hosts out there that I know, if they
had gotten the message that I got to be there,
they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said,
(15:50):
I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested
in being a part of that, because there was nothing
about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other
than we wanted to sit down and talk about message points.
We didn't ask for this folder. We didn't expect this folder.
We didn't know it.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Be clear, when you guys all got there, you just
and you and look everybody. I'm assuming it's like a
mini family reunion, as I call it. When I was
asked to go to the White House for back for
the State of the Union in twenty twenty, the last
day of the Union, Donald Trump gave before the election
back then, you walk in the room pretty much you
(16:28):
know everybody. It's a tight conservative community that we live in.
You probably knew everybody. And did you notice then that
something was different, like, okay, this seems a little different
than what we were sold.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
Well, no, no, I thought we were on track for
everything that was going to be I think that a
general BONDI was trying to do something, as I said,
in good faith. Now to that degree, what in back
to your prior question, what that notebook does prove? And
there was some information in there that I had not seen.
(17:01):
And I've done extensive research on Epstein. I know more
about Epstein than the average person knows. We've done some
very deep dives on Epstein and exposed a lot of
things that people have never thought about. There were some
things in there that I've never seen before. To me,
and to her defense, she said, it's not a smoking gun,
but it's the first step. What we want you to
see is that there's a lot of documents that have
(17:23):
been withheld by the FBI. That's the significance to this notebook.
In my opinion, yes, we want more, but what this
notebook proves is that there is more. There's a lot
more and the FBI has been withholding that. So to
post that, you know, to post a picture with the
notebook to me is to say, okay, we want to
(17:46):
show you one that the administration is trying to give
us some information. They're exposing what's being withheld. But also
this is a post that says, hey, we want to
hold you accountable to give us this information as well.
Now I can't explain while others were invited or not
invited or whatever, this was a matter that everybody was
(18:06):
called off guard. And I promise you'd been anybody that
had received that would I mean, what are we supposed
to do throw it back in the face of Attorney
General Bondie and say we don't want this notebook? No,
of course we're going to take it. So as soon
as she gave it to us, we were immediately and
you know how it is. It's President Trump called us
into the Oval office for a visit. We had to
get up and leave. We didn't know what was in
the notebook and.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Then a right, So so hold on, so let's talk
about today. You guys, am, assuming did you come in?
And I want to paint this picture because it's just
when you get to experiences that really is fun. Did
you go in through security by the EEO B and
then they walked you guys into the briefing room. Did
you come in by the White House side on the
West Wing side? And then when did and then where
(18:48):
all did you guys go, because it sounds like you
had multiple briefings like here and then oh, we're going
to go over here and then we're going to the
Oval Office.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
No, no, we didn't actually, and you're familiar with the
West Wing. We went into the West Wing entrance, and
for those of you who don't know, you immediately check
your cell phone, camera, equipment, device, whatever into a locker.
After the cocaine scandal of July back two years ago,
we all have about the lockers in the right So
there's a locker, and you don't take a phone with you.
(19:17):
So we spend hours in there without a phone, without
a camera. We're not in there looking things up on
our phone, checking out the White House WiFi. We're not
doing that. You know. It's a very secure space. So
we spent the entire time in the Roosevelt Room, which
of course is the conference room, which is one door
separated from the Oval Office. President Trump came in a
little point of trivia. Note it was kind of cool.
(19:38):
Harrison Butker, the placekicker for the Kansas City Chiefs. I
probably shouldn't out him like that, but he was there
for a visit. It's great to shake his hand. And
then the cabinet members came in and visited with us.
We did not expect every and we didn't know who
was coming. We didn't know who would be coming next.
In fact, one of our mutual friends he told me,
(20:00):
he said, I did not know this order was gonna happen. Uh.
And so as soon as I got dropped in our lamp,
we were immediately called in the Oval office. Now you
know you come out the back door. We did not know.
Here's the here's the thing.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Here, by the way, was that your first time in
the OV? Was that the for your first office?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
First time in the office?
Speaker 1 (20:18):
Can you and I? Can you and I just take
a moment and and and and explain for people I
don't care you. You have been very blessed in your
life and I have to have moments in our in
our careers where we've gotten to do some pretty cool things.
The very first time I went to the Oval office.
Chad was was with Bush uh in this second term
(20:40):
after I worked on the campaign in four and when
I walked in that Oval office, it was a pinch
you moment. I don't care how many times you've seen
it on TV. It is amazing. And I had the
opportunity to go in that over office quite a few
times in his administration, and then I got to go
in Uh in the in the in the Trump administration
(21:00):
is first term in office when he's forty five. Just
how explain that your feelings just getting to walk in
there and experience.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That, you know, it's one of those moments where obviously
the president had come into the Roosevelt Room and addressed
this for about five minutes, and then he says, I
want you to bring him into the Oval. And you
go in there, and it's surreal that if you're anything
like me, and you're you're a history buff or an
architecture buff, and you've seen this iconic room on TV
(21:32):
or movies or depicted, it's surreal you're taking it all
in from a new perspective. It's not a camera angle.
I mean, it's in three D. You're there, and so
it's a special moment and of course, the President's being
his typical, jovial, candid, comedic self. And it was a
great time. He spent you know, half an hour with us,
told us some stories. It was fantastic, and you know,
(21:55):
you go in there, and that's one of the reasons
why there's a lot of controversy right now. You know,
we tweet a lot, we post a lot on x
we share a lot on Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, truth, all
these places we're sharing. I know that people think we
just have this team of people doing it. And when
DC Draino had posted his picture with the notebook, I
(22:15):
copied his post and I put it in my notes
and I was going to edit it and then attribute
part of it back as quote, and I copy and
pasted the wrong thing and posted it to Facebook. And
so a lot of people blew up, saying you this
is this is messaging from the White House. And I'm like,
I promise you were not that sophisticated when you get
rushed out of the Oval office after me.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
By the way, not knowing and not knowing you're going
to go there. And if he did what he did
when I was there, it's like you go to the
gift shop. He loves you to come in, and he
loves you to leave with a bunch of stuff like you.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
Laugh, challenge coins and pins and hats and golf towels.
I mean, it's insane. Do you want to die at
coke and so you come out after breathing that rarefied air,
You're not really in the ultimate presence of mind. Now,
I will say this man a lot of people. You know,
I made a post on x about that, saying, listen,
my fault. I copied and pasted Draino. You know, he's
(23:09):
a friend of mine. I copied and pasted him. I
pasted the wrong thing back. I didn't do the edited version,
and so I went back and edited it on Facebook
and attributed it as a quote to him. But you know,
the internets forever and people take screenshots, and you know, like,
I have nothing to hide here. I've never received a
penny from the White House. Neither has anybody else. I mean,
coming up here, I'll just be totally transparent coming up here,
(23:30):
staying where I'm staying, you know, eating food, traveling everything.
It probably cost me about thirty five hundred to four
thousand dollars just to be here, for this two or
three day stint. And so this idea that we're like
Harry Sissen or Chris Mallory is a joke. Simply just
simply not the case. So it is.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
It is truly shocking when you see those that attack,
because you've got this incredible honor to be there and yeah,
and to see this and look, this wasn't just a
meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that
you guys talked about as well. And I want you
to understand that this was not just one thing only, No.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
And we can walk you through it. I mean, from
Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy talking
about what he plans to do with HHS, you know,
Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of
the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a
good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able
to talk about I mean, I literally all these people
(24:30):
posting on social media. I literally talked to both the
Vice President and the President about them holding not just
the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media
owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords, and
they both assured us and gave us a plan of
action whereby they're going to take care of that. So
(24:51):
all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities
were completely different. This just got dropped in our lap.
There was some great information that was shared. There was
some and if you've ever been in there this administration,
and I've been around cabinet members, I've been around the President,
I've been around you know, a lot of important people.
There was a sense of camaraderie, almost backslapping in the
(25:11):
Oval Office today as all of them were there. And
it makes me excited about not just the messaging, but
it makes me excited that I feel like this this
administration is going to do what it says. I totally
got the vibe from Pambondi and Director Patel that they
fully intend to release everything they get their hands on.
(25:32):
You know, people are so jaded and cynical at this point,
and I completely understand that nobody wants that information more
than me. And the reason is not for you know,
clicks and likes or to get a scoop on something.
We're genuinely excited about justice. There are there are women
and families out there that deserve closure. In no means
(25:55):
did we mean to post anything that was going to
bring them more harm. We fully ex infected there to
be more in that notebook, but again to look at it,
what we realized is once again the reason we're jaded
is this FBI has been lying to us.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Let's go to that headline because I think this is
a really important point. The FBI is what we've been
told with how thousands of pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents,
Pambonni says, and she's demanding that they be turned over.
This is the deep state, and this is I'm assuming
what you guys got a briefing on. I want you
to expand on this. But they'd said she's demanding that
(26:33):
they be turned over by Friday morning. I mean, this
is the attorney general. You've got Cashpttel, who was there
today and his own employees in essence, are not serving
the president. They're not serving the FBI director, they're not
serving the attorney general. They're going rogue and BONDI disclosed
this letter the FBI director Casptel, which has now been
put out there that this was a whistle blower, a
(26:55):
tipster that said that all but quote approximately two hundred
pages of documents were They're still being kept secret at
the FBI office in New York, despite her repeated request
for the full Epstein files. That is a takeaway from
y'all's meeting today.
Speaker 2 (27:09):
Anyone, anyone in our shoes, would be excited. Anyone sitting
in those seats today would be excited. They would have
responded the same way. They would have been hopeful. They
would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that,
and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today
and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said,
you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm
(27:31):
reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of
people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information,
Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some
stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking
at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also,
you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and
(27:53):
Fox News and all these others is when we went out,
obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming
in to date, the presspool was there in full force.
They were out back when we walked out. You know,
unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a
giant pile of cameras and uh reporters and they're taking
(28:13):
the pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know, it's
a it's it is in the messaging of the Trump
administration reminding the mainstream media that they're not kings and
they're not gods.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
But by the way, you better frame the picture of
you with that binder walking out. I saw it before
I even called you, and I just said I was
proud of you. Congratulations. Like I hope you frame it
and put it over the mantel, my friend. If you don't,
I'm gonna do it for you for Christmas and and
and I'm gonna charge you for it, because I'm gonna
you should do it on your own.
Speaker 2 (28:45):
There's you know, we go out there and obviously we
we all have our disdain for the mainstream media. We
all have that that feeling of ire towards them. Uh
and you know, obviously there's a little bit on the
part of some some folks to want to say, look,
we're receiving information that you're not receiving. You know what
if that, if that makes you mad, then I'm sorry,
(29:07):
I can't help you. Uh. This is a populous president.
He is a guy who is he He's not going
to play the party games. He doesn't care whose feelings
he hurts. We're all that way if you're going to
be if you're gonna put up with all the crap
we've put up with for over the last eight years,
with the persecution, the name calling, and the and the
you know, gosh, the demonetization and the deep latforming. Yeah,
(29:29):
we we don't mind a little middle finger to the
mainstream media.
Speaker 1 (29:32):
As we should well, and they don't report this news
and they lie. And so that goes back to my
my my final question for you, which is those that
are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that it was
a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new. The point
I think that I want to make sure this audience
understands is that this is the beginning of what we
(29:57):
of of this, not the end. Is is that a
fair way of putting it.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
Yeah, from the sentiment that I got from both General
Bondi and UH Secretary or sorry, Director Patel was they
literally and they were amicable with one another. I mean,
you read that note, you read that letter that Pam
Bondi wrote to Cash Pattel, and you would think, oh,
somebody's in trouble here, there's this is sort of a rebuke,
(30:22):
but it wasn't. And she wanted to make sure that
everybody knew that was clear. They are working in conjunction
with one another in this new Department of Justice to
make sure is that this information comes out. Uh. And
and I believe them. I believe them, you know, Ben,
I don't. I don't. I don't suffer fools. And man,
I can see through people. I'm pretty intuitive. But this
(30:42):
this administration what I saw today, the sense, the atmosphere,
just as I said earlier, just the backslapping camaraderie of
a team working together. Uh. To use Carolyn Levette's phrase,
this you can't keep up. It's a whirlwind. This administration
is working around the clock. I truly believe them.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Well, I think I agree. As I was sitting last
week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Cinder Cruz.
We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when
he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration
just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's
us against the world, and we are going to do
(31:25):
our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going
to work together. There is none of this. This is
my turf, and you stay off at and it sounds
like from the way that you met with so many
cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to
you as well.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a
cowboy hat and somehow got popular posting truck videos years ago.
The fact that I was sitting in the Oval office
today or sitting down with the Vice president and they're
willing to talk to me and share with me their priorities,
that should tell you I'm nobody. I was the dumbest
(31:59):
guy in the room. Tell you how to sixteen people
in that room, I was the dumbest guy in the room. Then,
I'm telling you there were some intelligent folks in there.
But the fact that they would extend an invitation graciously
to me and give me the hospitality to come in there,
it's surreal.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, we ain't fly over country. My friend, we ain't
fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and
that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you
and I are friends. You're a real person with a
real story to tell, with a real audience of the
hard working men and women that just want to be
left alone by their government and they want to have
a great life for their kids and their grandkids. And
going around the media and talking directly to you and others.
(32:37):
I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations, I'm
proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope it's
a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad that
they're looking to talk to people like you in these
moments who can get it out to everybody else. I'll
say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen Grab Chad show.
It's great Chad break their show, and then he does
a morning show as well called Dear America Rica. Wherever
(33:00):
you can get your podcasts, grab it, Chad. I appreciate
you taking the time to come on here and talk
and tell people what it was really like today. We
try to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines,
but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm
so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
Thank you, Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris
isn't president.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Thank God aim into that. Chad Pray through my friends.
Chad Pray the show. Dear America, grab wherever you get
your podcasts.
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