March 2, 2025 • 27 mins
1. Announcement of Document Release:
- Attorney General Pam Bondi announced the Department of Justice's plan to release documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. These documents include flight logs and names of individuals associated with Epstein.
- The release has been delayed to protect the identities of over 250 victims.
2. Content of the Documents:
- The documents are expected to reveal flight logs, names, and other information related to Epstein's activities.
- The files are described as containing sickening details about Epstein's actions and his network.
3. Political Pressure and Transparency:
- There has been significant pressure from lawmakers, such as Senator Marsha Blackburn and Representative Anna Paulina Luna, for increased transparency regarding Epstein's connections.
- The release aims to provide insight into Epstein's network and associations with high-profile individuals.
4. Epstein's Background:
- Jeffrey Epstein was a financier with ties to numerous high-profile individuals. He was arrested in 2019 on federal sex trafficking charges but died by suicide before his trial.
- His associate, Ghislaine Maxwell, was convicted in 2021 for her role in recruiting underage girls for Epstein and is serving a 20-year prison sentence.
5. Government and FBI Involvement:
- There are allegations of a cover-up and questions about why the government did not act sooner despite having information about Epstein's activities.
- Bondi has directed FBI Director Cash Patel to handle rogue FBI officials in New York who are allegedly withholding critical Epstein documents.
6. Whistleblower Revelations:
- A whistleblower revealed that the FBI Field Office in New York is withholding thousands of pages of documents related to Epstein.
- Bondi has set deadlines for the FBI to deliver the full set of Epstein files and to investigate why her orders were not followed.
7. Media and Public Reaction:
- Conservative journalists and influencers were given access to the first phase of the Epstein files, bypassing mainstream media.
- There is criticism from some quarters that the released information is not new, but Bondi and Patel emphasize that this is just the beginning of the document release process.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The Attorney General, Pam Bondi, has announced that the Department
of Justice plans to release documents related to Jeffrey Epstein today.
The documents are expected to include flight logs and names
of individuals associated with Jeffrey Epstein. Bondy emphasized the importance
(00:21):
of protecting the identities of more than two hundred and
fifty victims, which has contributed to the delay in releasing
the information. She described the contents of what are in
these files as something that is sickening. Take a listen
from Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Said last week that you have the Epstein files on
your desk, is when can we see them? And what's
taking so long to release them?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I do, Jesse, there are well over This will make
you sick, two hundred victims. Two hundred so we have
well over two hundred and fifty actually, so we have
to make sure that their identity is protected and their
personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know,
(01:07):
the personal information of victims. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse,
breaking news. Right now, you're going to see some Epstein
information being released by my office.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, kind are we going to see who was on
the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from
what he recorded because he had all of his homes
wired with recording devices.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot
of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a
lot of information. But it's pretty sick what that man.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Did, okay well along with his co defendant. Absolutely, and
he had help, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Did he had help? That's for sure. Now. This announcement
follows by Parson pressure from wallmakers for increased transparency regarding
Epstein's connections. Sener Marsha Blackburn, for example, Republican from Tennessee,
and Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Republican from Florida, have been
vocal in urging the release of the Epstein's clients list
(02:10):
and related records. The forecoming release aims to provide insight
into Epstein's network and associations. Now Epstein, if you remember,
he was a financier with ties to numerous high profile individuals.
He was arrested in twenty nineteen on federal sex trafficking charges,
(02:30):
but died of quote suicide before his trial. His associate,
woman by the last name Maxwell, was also convicted in
twenty twenty one for her role in recruiting underage girls
for Epstein, and she is currently serving a twenty year
prison sentence. Now, the release of these documents has anticipated
(02:51):
shed further light on the extent of Epstein's activities and associations.
What we also are expecting is there is going to
be quite a few high profile individuals from the political
world that had very close relationships with Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
to be clear, if there are Republicans on this list,
(03:12):
I want to know exactly what they were doing with
Jeffrey Epstein. If there are Democrats on this list, I
want to know exactly what they were doing with Jeffrey Epstein.
In fact, I really don't care if you're a Republican
or a Democrat. I care about transparency and the fact
that there is an Epstein's client list and yet no
(03:33):
one except for Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell have been arrested
for all of these heinous crimes, and the hundreds of
victims and underage girls they trafficked tells you just how
big this cover up actually was. I also want to
know why the government didn't act sooner. They had lots
(03:53):
of information about Jeffrey Epstein and what he was doing.
So who were they protecting in our government or who
called off the government from actually doing the job of
investigating the heinous crimes against underage girls. This should be
what we all should be wanting for transparency, and that's
(04:14):
exactly why President Donald Trump and Pam Bondy are saying
it's time for you and everyone else to see the list.
I also want to remind you that this is another
one of Donald Trump's promises. I want to go back
seven months ago when he was running for president, and
this is what the President said about the Epstein list
in an interview.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's just very strange for a lot of people that
the list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be, by
the way, So if you're able to, you'll be Yeah,
certainly take a look at it now. Kennedy's interesting because
it's so many years ago. You know, they do that
for danger too, because you know it endangers certain people,
c et cetera. So Kennedy is very different from the
(05:05):
Epstein thing. But yet I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.
I'd have no problem with them.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yet again, another promise from the President of the United
States of America that he is checking the box on.
Early on in his administration, there was a group of
individuals that were asked to come to the White House
that received part one of the Epstein files. And I'm
going to have that guest, Chad Prather join us in
just a moment. But before we get to that, I
(05:33):
want you to understand the real part of this story
that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot of
people saying they're angry by what was released, basically implying
that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a reason
why there was nothing new there, and this is what
you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has told
(05:54):
the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York FBI
office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are doing
this against the wishes and the commands of their bosses
that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the President
(06:15):
of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney General
Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Patel to handle the
seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly refusing
to provide her with the quote full set of documents
related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That is
what a letter from her office revealed to the American
(06:38):
people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated February
the twenty seven, from Bondi to Patel was obtained by
independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests that
they actually receive this letter at the White House briefing. Now,
at the White House briefing, they were given Epstein files,
(06:59):
fais briefing books on exactly the laying out of what
they do have. The big part of the meeting which
was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam Bondi
and the FBI director explained to them very clearly that
there are New York FBI officials that have gone completely rogue.
(07:21):
The ag letter says the FBI in New York is
withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the reports of
the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well. Bondi
began her letter by saying, this, before you came into office,
I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
(07:43):
In response to this request, I received approximately two hundred
pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's
list of contacts, and a list of victims' names and
phone numbers. I repeatedly question whether this was a full
set of documents response to my request, and was repeatedly
assured by the FBI that we had received the full
(08:06):
set of documents. The Attorney General continued before reporting that
she got a tip from a source at the FBI
Field Office in New York, stating that the bureau was
withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I learned from a
source that the FBI Field Office in New York was
in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to
(08:29):
the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein, Bondi continued
in her letter to the FBI director. Despite my repeated requests,
the FBI never disclosed the existence of any of these files. Now,
let's just pause for a second and dissect what we
just learned. Pam Bondi, who is the Attorney General the
(08:50):
United States of America, who is in charge of the FBI,
has rogue deep state officials in the FBI office in
New York that deliberately lied to her face and claimed
that they had given her all of the documents, when
in fact they may have given her less than about
ten percent of what they actually have on hand. This
(09:14):
is the deep state and just how corrupt our government
has become now. Bondi noted that she had already spoken
to Caspatel after receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing
that the FBI director was just as surprised as I
was to learn the new information quote unquote. She then
handed Caspatel to hard deadlines. These are important for you
(09:38):
to understand. By eight am on Friday morning, the FBI
will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office,
including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and material
related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how
such information was obtained. That is deadline number one in
(09:58):
this letter. The deadline number two, she says, I'm also
directing you to conduct an immediate investigation to why my
order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver
to me a comprehensive report of your findings and propose
personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion, Bondie added
(10:19):
that she knows that Patel has committed to transparency for
the American people, and that is exactly what they did
together at the White House on Thursday. Now, a Department
of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the FBI Field
Office in New York with held Epstein files in a
statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also claimed that
(10:42):
Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on the same page.
Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying, quote new
the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the last forty
eight hours a DOJ source telling Real Clear Politics that
additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the by the
FBI Field Office in New York. I'm told that the
(11:03):
letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate, but the speculation
that the FBI Director, Patel and ag Bondi are at
odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent of the
same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now,
of course, the media is trying to do anything they
can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit,
(11:25):
especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we
now know from the meeting at the White House with
those that were asked to come and receive Phase one
of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear
that the two people are on the same page. And
the letter that she was sending to Cashpatel was really
a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the
(11:47):
job that I am instructing you to do. It was
empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many
documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the
FBI Field office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to
the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox
News's Jesse Waters primetime show that her office would begin
(12:11):
releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she
did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the
words that she was using on TV saying that she
had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing
a lot of information. Pam Bondi going on TV allowed
(12:34):
for the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that
is exactly why that brave person came over and said, hey,
you don't have all of the files that you've been
told that you have. In other words, there are a
lot of people in the deep state that have been
lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful
(12:54):
people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just
point out one final thing. There are a lot in
the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers
were the ones that got this story that they went
around the mainstream media. They were spotted exiting the White
House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one.
(13:14):
There were people that were so angry because this was
the media getting cut out of the big story. They're
obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and
say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why
because they didn't get the binder. And the people that
were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives,
(13:35):
many of them on social media, you know, some of
them as things like the libs of TikTok or d
C Draino or oaan former host Liz Wheeler, and my
guest who is going to join me in just a second,
Chad Prayther. He hosts a show and he also hosts
Deer America. Now, why were these people picked. They were
(13:57):
picked because they were people that actually have a falling
of real Americans, Americans actually care about this country. I
love the President did this, I love that the Attorney
General did this, and I love that they stuck it
to the liberal media and the fact that they're freaking
out means we're making progress. As I mentioned earlier, a
(14:18):
dear friend of mine, Chad Prayther. He is the host
of the Chad Praythro Show. You should download it, and
also a morning show called Dear America. He got the
phone call to go to the White House and to
have a conversation about the Epstein files and even get
that binder that's now become famous. Chad joins me now
to talk about this. Chad, Let's start from the very beginning.
(14:41):
When did you get asked to come to the White House?
And did you even know what the meeting was going
to be about or who was going to be there.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Hey, Ben, it's going to talk to you man. I
did not know. In fact, we were invited for a
completely different reason. We were not invited on the basis
of knowing anything about the Epstein files. In fact, if
we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D.
Vance to talk about messaging, and specifically if we had
opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and
(15:10):
talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing.
And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort
of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to
deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature
so that the truth could get out there to people,
(15:32):
I mean people with an audience, people like me and
people like you. And this was a part of that.
What happened as we met with various cabinet members today,
it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it.
Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director
Cash Bettel with the FBI, and she said, you know,
as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking gun here,
(15:54):
she said, but we do want to give you Phase one.
She said. The significant thing that we want to expose
is there's a letter that reveals that we're missing thousands
of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously, when that's dropped
in your lap and then immediately get called in the
Oval office to visit with the President, you're excited. I mean,
especially if there's anyone out there like myself and many
(16:15):
others who have done research and trying to expose the
tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors. You're excited about that,
and obviously you want to be able to demonstrate to
your audience that the administration is trying to do what
they said they were going to do. Obviously wasn't taking there.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
There's a lot of turf war going on right now.
And I really want to break this down because there
were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come
in for this meeting, and all of you were told
it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously
that was to get you there to keep this quiet.
There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there
that were left out of this meeting that are now
(16:55):
angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a
big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's
nothing new in these files that this is. This is
an embarrassment, it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats say this.
There's a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages from you, going,
how do we screw this up so bad? Today? There's
nothing in here that we didn't already know this was
this is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think
(17:16):
that's accurate. And you just mentioned that letter, and that's
something that we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands
of Epstein documents. So yet you got confirmation that file
today of what a lot of what we've heard about.
But you mentioned that letter, and so explain how important
that is to this being quote phase one.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't
phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they
wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front
of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to
forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney
General BONDI. What do you agree with her or not?
I mean, we're all hopeful that this administration is going
to do what they say and they're going to be transparent.
(17:58):
It's not that there's nothing in that notebook. It's just
not what we want yet, and that's a big difference.
We all want more, We all demand the exposure and
the truth. We know that this is a serious subject matter,
it's a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question,
there are those who are out there who are saying,
(18:21):
you know, why weren't we invited? Well, there were literally
fifteen sixteen seats around the table. We were invited for
a completely different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben,
and I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers
and creators and hosts out there that I know, if
they had gotten the message that I got to be there,
they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said,
(18:42):
I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested
in being a part of that, because there was nothing
about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other
than we want to just sit down and talk about
message points.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It is truly shocking when you see those that attack
because you got this incredible honor to be there and yeah,
and to see this and look, this wasn't just a
meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that
you guys talked about as well. And I want you
to understand that this was not just one thing only.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, and we can walk you through it. I mean,
from Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy
talking about what he plans to do with HHS. You know,
Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of
the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a
good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able
to talk about I mean, I literally all these people
(19:36):
posting on social media. I literally talked to both the
Vice President and the President about them holding not just
the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media
owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords. And
they both assured us and gave us a plan of
action whereby they're going to take care of that. So
(19:57):
all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities
were co completely different. This just got dropped in our lap.
There was some great information that was shared, there was
some exciting things. And if you've ever been in there
this administration, and I've been around cabinet members, I've been
around the President, I've been around you know, a lot
of important people. There was a sense of camaraderie, almost
backslapping in the Oval Office today as all of them
(20:19):
were there. And it makes me excited about not just
the messaging, but it makes me excited that I feel
like this this administration is going to do what it says.
I totally got the vibe from Pambondi and director Patel
that they fully intend to release everything they get their
hands on. You know, people are so jaded and cynical
(20:39):
at this point, and I completely understand that nobody wants
that information more than me. And the reason is not
for you know, clicks and likes or to get a
scoop on something. We're genuinely excited about justice. There are
there are women and families out there that deserve closure.
(21:00):
In no means that we mean to post anything that
was going to bring them more harm. We fully expected
there to be more in that notebook, but again to
look at it, what we realized is once again the
reason we're jaded is this FBI has been lying to us.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They've kept So let's let's let's go to that headline
because I think this is a really important point. The
FBI is what we've been told with how thousands of
pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents, Pam Bonnie says, and she's
demanding that they be turned over. This is the deep state,
and this is I'm assuming what you guys got a
briefing on. I want, I want you to expand on this,
(21:37):
but they'd said she's demanding that they be turned over
by Friday morning. I mean, this is the the attorney general.
You've got Cashpttel, who was there today and his own employees,
in essence, are not serving the president. They're not serving
the FBI director. They're not serving the attorney general. They're
going rogue and BONDI disclosed this letter the FBI director Casptel,
(21:58):
which has now been put out there. But this was
a whistle blower, a tipster that said that all but
quote approximate two undred pages of documents were still being
kept secret at the FBI office in New York, despite
her repeated request for the full Epstein files. That is
a takeaway from y'all's meeting today.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, anyone, anyone in our shoes would be excited. Anyone
sitting in those seats today would be excited. They would
have responded the same way. They would have been hopeful,
They would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that,
and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today
and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said,
(22:36):
you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm
reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of
people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information,
Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some
stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking
at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also,
(22:58):
you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and
Fox News and all these others is when we went out,
obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming
in to day. The press pool was there in full force.
They were out back when we walked out. You know,
unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a
giant pile of cameras and reporters and they're taking the
(23:21):
pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know. It is
in the messaging of the Trump administration reminding the mainstream
media that they're not kings and they're not gods.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Those that are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that
it was a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new.
The point I think that I want to make sure
this audience understands is that this is the beginning of
what we of this not the end. Is that a
fair way of putting it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah. From the sentiment that I got from both General
Bondi and sorry, Director Patel was they literally and they
were amicable with one another. I mean, you read that note,
you read that letter that Pam Bondi wrote to Cash Patel,
and you would think, oh, somebody's in trouble here. There's
this is sort of a rebuke, but it wasn't. And
(24:16):
she wanted to make sure that everybody knew that that
was clear. They are working in conjunction with one another
in this new Department of Justice to make sure is
that this information comes out. Uh. And and I believe them.
I believe them. You know, Ben, I don't. I don't.
I don't suffer fools, and man, I can see through people.
I'm pretty intuitive. But this this administration, what I saw today,
(24:38):
the sense, the atmosphere, just as I said earlier, just
a backslapping camaraderie of a team working together. Uh. To
use Carolyn Levett's phrase, this you can't keep up. It's
a whirlwind. This administration is working around the clock. I
truly believe them.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, I think I agree as I was sitting last
week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Center Cruz.
We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when
he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration
just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's
us against the world, and we are going to do
(25:18):
our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going
to work together. There is none of this. This is
my turf and you stay off at and it sounds
like from the way that you met with so many
cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to
you as well.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a
cowboy hat and and somehow got popular posting truck videos
years ago. The fact that I was sitting in the
Oval office today, or or sitting down with the Vice
president and they're willing to talk to me and share
with me their priorities, that should tell you I'm nobody.
(25:51):
I was the dumbest guy in the room. I can
tell you how to sixteen people in that room, I
was the dumbest guy in the room. Then I'm telling
you there was some intelligent folks in there. But the
fact that they would extend an invitation graciously to me
and give me the hospitality to come in there, it's surreal.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, we ain't fly over country, my friend, we ain't
fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and
that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you
and I are friends. You're a real person with a
real story to tell, with a real audience of a
hard work and men and women that just want to
be left alone by their government and they want to
have a great life for their kids and their grandkids.
And going around the media and talking directly to you
(26:29):
and others. I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations,
I'm proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope
it's a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad
that they're looking to talk to people like you in
these moments who can get it out to everybody else.
I'll say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen grab Chad show.
It's great Chad break their show, and then he does
(26:50):
a morning show as well called Dear America. Wherever you
can get your podcast, grab it, Chad. I appreciate you
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tell people what it was really like today. We try
to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines,
but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm
so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris isn't president?
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I aim into that. Chad Pray through my friends, Chad
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The Attorney General, Pam Bondi, has announced that the Department
of Justice plans to release documents related to Jeffrey Epstein today.
The documents are expected to include flight logs and names
of individuals associated with Jeffrey Epstein. Bondy emphasized the importance
(00:21):
of protecting the identities of more than two hundred and
fifty victims, which has contributed to the delay in releasing
the information. She described the contents of what are in
these files as something that is sickening. Take a listen
from Fox News.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Said last week that you have the Epstein files on
your desk, is when can we see them? And what's
taking so long to release them?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I do, Jesse, there are well over This will make
you sick, two hundred victims. Two hundred so we have
well over two hundred and fifty actually, so we have
to make sure that their identity is protected and their
personal information. But other than that, I think tomorrow, you know,
(01:07):
the personal information of victims. Other than that, I think tomorrow, Jesse,
breaking news. Right now, you're going to see some Epstein
information being released by my office.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Well, kind are we going to see who was on
the flights? Are we going to see any evidence from
what he recorded because he had all of his homes
wired with recording devices.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What you're going to see, hopefully tomorrow is a lot
of flight logs, a lot of names, a lot a
lot of information. But it's pretty sick what that man.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Did, okay well along with his co defendant. Absolutely, and
he had help, that's for sure.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Did he had help? That's for sure. Now. This announcement
follows by Parson pressure from wallmakers for increased transparency regarding
Epstein's connections. Sener Marsha Blackburn, for example, Republican from Tennessee,
and Representative Anna Paulina Luna, Republican from Florida, have been
vocal in urging the release of the Epstein's clients list
(02:10):
and related records. The forecoming release aims to provide insight
into Epstein's network and associations. Now Epstein, if you remember,
he was a financier with ties to numerous high profile individuals.
He was arrested in twenty nineteen on federal sex trafficking charges,
(02:30):
but died of quote suicide before his trial. His associate,
woman by the last name Maxwell, was also convicted in
twenty twenty one for her role in recruiting underage girls
for Epstein, and she is currently serving a twenty year
prison sentence. Now, the release of these documents has anticipated
(02:51):
shed further light on the extent of Epstein's activities and associations.
What we also are expecting is there is going to
be quite a few high profile individuals from the political
world that had very close relationships with Jeffrey Epstein. Now,
to be clear, if there are Republicans on this list,
(03:12):
I want to know exactly what they were doing with
Jeffrey Epstein. If there are Democrats on this list, I
want to know exactly what they were doing with Jeffrey Epstein.
In fact, I really don't care if you're a Republican
or a Democrat. I care about transparency and the fact
that there is an Epstein's client list and yet no
(03:33):
one except for Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell have been arrested
for all of these heinous crimes, and the hundreds of
victims and underage girls they trafficked tells you just how
big this cover up actually was. I also want to
know why the government didn't act sooner. They had lots
(03:53):
of information about Jeffrey Epstein and what he was doing.
So who were they protecting in our government or who
called off the government from actually doing the job of
investigating the heinous crimes against underage girls. This should be
what we all should be wanting for transparency, and that's
(04:14):
exactly why President Donald Trump and Pam Bondy are saying
it's time for you and everyone else to see the list.
I also want to remind you that this is another
one of Donald Trump's promises. I want to go back
seven months ago when he was running for president, and
this is what the President said about the Epstein list
in an interview.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
It's just very strange for a lot of people that
the list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 5 (04:42):
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be, by
the way, So if you're able to, you'll be Yeah,
certainly take a look at it now. Kennedy's interesting because
it's so many years ago. You know, they do that
for danger too, because you know it endangers certain people,
c et cetera. So Kennedy is very different from the
(05:05):
Epstein thing. But yet I'd be inclined to do the Epstein.
I'd have no problem with them.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Yet again, another promise from the President of the United
States of America that he is checking the box on.
Early on in his administration, there was a group of
individuals that were asked to come to the White House
that received part one of the Epstein files. And I'm
going to have that guest, Chad Prather join us in
just a moment. But before we get to that, I
(05:33):
want you to understand the real part of this story
that's not being covered accurately. There are a lot of
people saying they're angry by what was released, basically implying
that there was nothing new there. Well, there's a reason
why there was nothing new there, and this is what
you need to understand. The Attorney General Pambondi has told
(05:54):
the FBI Director Cash Pattel that rogue New York FBI
office employees are withholding Epstein files and they are doing
this against the wishes and the commands of their bosses
that include Cash Hotel, the Attorney General, and the President
(06:15):
of the United States of America. Now, the Attorney General
Pambondi has directed the FBI Director Patel to handle the
seemingly rogue FBI office in New York for repeatedly refusing
to provide her with the quote full set of documents
related to the late billionaire predator Jeffrey Epstein. That is
what a letter from her office revealed to the American
(06:38):
people on Thursday. A photo of that letter, dated February
the twenty seven, from Bondi to Patel was obtained by
independent journalist Tim Poole and confirmed by my guests that
they actually receive this letter at the White House briefing. Now,
at the White House briefing, they were given Epstein files,
(06:59):
fais briefing books on exactly the laying out of what
they do have. The big part of the meeting which
was not covered accurately was the fact that Pam Bondi
and the FBI director explained to them very clearly that
there are New York FBI officials that have gone completely rogue.
(07:21):
The ag letter says the FBI in New York is
withholding the critical Epstein documents. This after the reports of
the FBI was secretly destroying FBI documents as well. Bondi
began her letter by saying, this, before you came into office,
I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein.
(07:43):
In response to this request, I received approximately two hundred
pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's
list of contacts, and a list of victims' names and
phone numbers. I repeatedly question whether this was a full
set of documents response to my request, and was repeatedly
assured by the FBI that we had received the full
(08:06):
set of documents. The Attorney General continued before reporting that
she got a tip from a source at the FBI
Field Office in New York, stating that the bureau was
withholding the complete files. Late yesterday, I learned from a
source that the FBI Field Office in New York was
in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to
(08:29):
the investigation and the indictment of Jeffrey Epstein, Bondi continued
in her letter to the FBI director. Despite my repeated requests,
the FBI never disclosed the existence of any of these files. Now,
let's just pause for a second and dissect what we
just learned. Pam Bondi, who is the Attorney General the
(08:50):
United States of America, who is in charge of the FBI,
has rogue deep state officials in the FBI office in
New York that deliberately lied to her face and claimed
that they had given her all of the documents, when
in fact they may have given her less than about
ten percent of what they actually have on hand. This
(09:14):
is the deep state and just how corrupt our government
has become now. Bondi noted that she had already spoken
to Caspatel after receiving the tip on Wednesday evening, writing
that the FBI director was just as surprised as I
was to learn the new information quote unquote. She then
handed Caspatel to hard deadlines. These are important for you
(09:38):
to understand. By eight am on Friday morning, the FBI
will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office,
including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and material
related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how
such information was obtained. That is deadline number one in
(09:58):
this letter. The deadline number two, she says, I'm also
directing you to conduct an immediate investigation to why my
order to the FBI was not followed. You will deliver
to me a comprehensive report of your findings and propose
personnel action within fourteen days. In her conclusion, Bondie added
(10:19):
that she knows that Patel has committed to transparency for
the American people, and that is exactly what they did
together at the White House on Thursday. Now, a Department
of Justice source corroborated Bonnie's claims that the FBI Field
Office in New York with held Epstein files in a
statement to Real Clear Politics. The source also claimed that
(10:42):
Bondi and Patel are one hundred percent on the same page.
Real Clear Politics wrote it this way, saying, quote new
the Attorney General Bondi recently discovered within the last forty
eight hours a DOJ source telling Real Clear Politics that
additional Epstein documents have been withheld from the by the
FBI Field Office in New York. I'm told that the
(11:03):
letter below concerning Epstein files is legitimate, but the speculation
that the FBI Director, Patel and ag Bondi are at
odds is inaccurate. They are one hundred percent of the
same page, the DOJ source tells Real Clear Politics. Now,
of course, the media is trying to do anything they
can to drive wedges between different people in Trump's orbit,
(11:25):
especially between the Attorney General the FBI director. What we
now know from the meeting at the White House with
those that were asked to come and receive Phase one
of the Epstein files. Is that it was abundantly clear
that the two people are on the same page. And
the letter that she was sending to Cashpatel was really
a letter to the FBI saying, you better do the
(11:47):
job that I am instructing you to do. It was
empowering Cashpatel. The other part about this is how many
documents may have already been destroyed. The sources inside the
FBI Field office in New York apparently alerted Bondi to
the withheld files just hours after she announced on Fox
News's Jesse Waters primetime show that her office would begin
(12:11):
releasing quote a lot of information on Thursday. When she
did that interview, apparently the whistleblower understood clearly from the
words that she was using on TV saying that she
had well over two hundred pages, that she was missing
a lot of information. Pam Bondi going on TV allowed
(12:34):
for the whistleblower to understand what was missing, and that
is exactly why that brave person came over and said, hey,
you don't have all of the files that you've been
told that you have. In other words, there are a
lot of people in the deep state that have been
lying and covering up for Jeffrey Epstein and other powerful
(12:54):
people that are on the Epstein list. Naomi also just
point out one final thing. There are a lot in
the media that are angry. The conservative journalists and influencers
were the ones that got this story that they went
around the mainstream media. They were spotted exiting the White
House with the binders labeled the Epstein Files Phase one.
(13:14):
There were people that were so angry because this was
the media getting cut out of the big story. They're
obviously going to criticize and attack this White House and
say that this binder was filled with nothing new. Why
because they didn't get the binder. And the people that
were asked to come into the White House are hardcore conservatives,
(13:35):
many of them on social media, you know, some of
them as things like the libs of TikTok or d
C Draino or oaan former host Liz Wheeler, and my
guest who is going to join me in just a second,
Chad Prayther. He hosts a show and he also hosts
Deer America. Now, why were these people picked. They were
(13:57):
picked because they were people that actually have a falling
of real Americans, Americans actually care about this country. I
love the President did this, I love that the Attorney
General did this, and I love that they stuck it
to the liberal media and the fact that they're freaking
out means we're making progress. As I mentioned earlier, a
(14:18):
dear friend of mine, Chad Prayther. He is the host
of the Chad Praythro Show. You should download it, and
also a morning show called Dear America. He got the
phone call to go to the White House and to
have a conversation about the Epstein files and even get
that binder that's now become famous. Chad joins me now
to talk about this. Chad, Let's start from the very beginning.
(14:41):
When did you get asked to come to the White House?
And did you even know what the meeting was going
to be about or who was going to be there.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Hey, Ben, it's going to talk to you man. I
did not know. In fact, we were invited for a
completely different reason. We were not invited on the basis
of knowing anything about the Epstein files. In fact, if
we were invited simply to co meet with President J. D.
Vance to talk about messaging, and specifically if we had
opportunity to visit with some of the cabinet members and
(15:10):
talk about just the things that the administration is prioritizing.
And this was part of President Trump's initiative to sort
of sidestep the mainstream and legacy media in order to
deal with podcasters and influencers and people of that nature
so that the truth could get out there to people,
(15:32):
I mean people with an audience, people like me and
people like you. And this was a part of that.
What happened as we met with various cabinet members today,
it was a great meeting. We didn't think anything of it.
Attorney General Pambondi came in. She came in with Director
Cash Bettel with the FBI, and she said, you know,
as a gesture of good faith, there's no smoking gun here,
(15:54):
she said, but we do want to give you Phase one.
She said. The significant thing that we want to expose
is there's a letter that reveals that we're missing thousands
of pages of Epstein documents. So obviously, when that's dropped
in your lap and then immediately get called in the
Oval office to visit with the President, you're excited. I mean,
especially if there's anyone out there like myself and many
(16:15):
others who have done research and trying to expose the
tragedy which is the Epstein just horrors. You're excited about that,
and obviously you want to be able to demonstrate to
your audience that the administration is trying to do what
they said they were going to do. Obviously wasn't taking there.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
There's a lot of turf war going on right now.
And I really want to break this down because there
were fifteen of you guys that were asked to come
in for this meeting, and all of you were told
it was a vice presidential meeting and messaging, and obviously
that was to get you there to keep this quiet.
There seems to be a lot of conservatives out there
that were left out of this meeting that are now
(16:55):
angry saying that you guys got nothing. It was a
big nothing burger. This is stuff we already knew. There's
nothing new in these files that this is. This is
an embarrassment, it's a joke. And these aren't Democrats say this.
There's a lot of Republicans. I'm getting text messages from you, going,
how do we screw this up so bad? Today? There's
nothing in here that we didn't already know this was
this is a joke and embarrassment, and I don't think
(17:16):
that's accurate. And you just mentioned that letter, and that's
something that we're now seeing is the FBI withheld thousands
of Epstein documents. So yet you got confirmation that file
today of what a lot of what we've heard about.
But you mentioned that letter, and so explain how important
that is to this being quote phase one.
Speaker 4 (17:37):
Well, I think that, first of all, if it wasn't
phase one, if there wasn't more to be revealed, they
wouldn't have put the phrase phase one on the front
of the notebook. That's that's something that people tend to
forget that we need to remember this. This was Attorney
General BONDI. What do you agree with her or not?
I mean, we're all hopeful that this administration is going
to do what they say and they're going to be transparent.
(17:58):
It's not that there's nothing in that notebook. It's just
not what we want yet, and that's a big difference.
We all want more, We all demand the exposure and
the truth. We know that this is a serious subject matter,
it's a tragic subject matter. So to answer your question,
there are those who are out there who are saying,
(18:21):
you know, why weren't we invited? Well, there were literally
fifteen sixteen seats around the table. We were invited for
a completely different reason. And I'll be honest with you, Ben,
and I can't stress this enough. Most of the influencers
and creators and hosts out there that I know, if
they had gotten the message that I got to be there,
they probably would have snubbed it. They probably would have said,
(18:42):
I'm not interested in going to that. I'm not interested
in being a part of that, because there was nothing
about it that was, you know, intriguing in regards other
than we want to just sit down and talk about
message points.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
It is truly shocking when you see those that attack
because you got this incredible honor to be there and yeah,
and to see this and look, this wasn't just a
meeting about the Epstein files. There was a lot that
you guys talked about as well. And I want you
to understand that this was not just one thing only.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
No, and we can walk you through it. I mean,
from Bobby Kennedy telling us his you know, Secretary Kennedy
talking about what he plans to do with HHS. You know,
Carolyn Levette talking about the priorities of the messaging of
the White House. JD. Vance coming in and spending a
good thirty minutes with us, hanging out and us able
to talk about I mean, I literally all these people
(19:36):
posting on social media. I literally talked to both the
Vice President and the President about them holding not just
the mainstream and legacy media accountable, but holding social media
owners accountable and the accountable and the Google overlords. And
they both assured us and gave us a plan of
action whereby they're going to take care of that. So
(19:57):
all these people out there complaining about it, our priorities
were co completely different. This just got dropped in our lap.
There was some great information that was shared, there was
some exciting things. And if you've ever been in there
this administration, and I've been around cabinet members, I've been
around the President, I've been around you know, a lot
of important people. There was a sense of camaraderie, almost
backslapping in the Oval Office today as all of them
(20:19):
were there. And it makes me excited about not just
the messaging, but it makes me excited that I feel
like this this administration is going to do what it says.
I totally got the vibe from Pambondi and director Patel
that they fully intend to release everything they get their
hands on. You know, people are so jaded and cynical
(20:39):
at this point, and I completely understand that nobody wants
that information more than me. And the reason is not
for you know, clicks and likes or to get a
scoop on something. We're genuinely excited about justice. There are
there are women and families out there that deserve closure.
(21:00):
In no means that we mean to post anything that
was going to bring them more harm. We fully expected
there to be more in that notebook, but again to
look at it, what we realized is once again the
reason we're jaded is this FBI has been lying to us.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
They've kept So let's let's let's go to that headline
because I think this is a really important point. The
FBI is what we've been told with how thousands of
pages of Jeffrey Epstein documents, Pam Bonnie says, and she's
demanding that they be turned over. This is the deep state,
and this is I'm assuming what you guys got a
briefing on. I want, I want you to expand on this,
(21:37):
but they'd said she's demanding that they be turned over
by Friday morning. I mean, this is the the attorney general.
You've got Cashpttel, who was there today and his own employees,
in essence, are not serving the president. They're not serving
the FBI director. They're not serving the attorney general. They're
going rogue and BONDI disclosed this letter the FBI director Casptel,
(21:58):
which has now been put out there. But this was
a whistle blower, a tipster that said that all but
quote approximate two undred pages of documents were still being
kept secret at the FBI office in New York, despite
her repeated request for the full Epstein files. That is
a takeaway from y'all's meeting today.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Yeah, anyone, anyone in our shoes would be excited. Anyone
sitting in those seats today would be excited. They would
have responded the same way. They would have been hopeful,
They would have been anticipatory. You know, you go through that,
and you and I chatted a little bit earlier today
and I expressed you before doing other media hits, I said,
(22:36):
you know, I'm trying to decipher what it is I'm
reading in here. You know, I've got a lot of
people who are apparently they said, well we've had this information,
Well not all of it, you haven't. There is some
stuff in there that is different. For instance, you're looking
at Julane Maxwell's Black Book versus Jeffrey Epstein's Black Book.
So anybody would have been excited to receive that. And also,
(22:58):
you know what you're seeing paraded across the AP and
Fox News and all these others is when we went out,
obviously the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom was coming
in to day. The press pool was there in full force.
They were out back when we walked out. You know,
unbeknownst to us, we walk out in front of a
giant pile of cameras and reporters and they're taking the
(23:21):
pictures and they're taking the snapshots. You know. It is
in the messaging of the Trump administration reminding the mainstream
media that they're not kings and they're not gods.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Those that are criticizing saying today was an embarrassment, that
it was a nothing burger, that we learned nothing new.
The point I think that I want to make sure
this audience understands is that this is the beginning of
what we of this not the end. Is that a
fair way of putting it.
Speaker 4 (23:54):
Yeah. From the sentiment that I got from both General
Bondi and sorry, Director Patel was they literally and they
were amicable with one another. I mean, you read that note,
you read that letter that Pam Bondi wrote to Cash Patel,
and you would think, oh, somebody's in trouble here. There's
this is sort of a rebuke, but it wasn't. And
(24:16):
she wanted to make sure that everybody knew that that
was clear. They are working in conjunction with one another
in this new Department of Justice to make sure is
that this information comes out. Uh. And and I believe them.
I believe them. You know, Ben, I don't. I don't.
I don't suffer fools, and man, I can see through people.
I'm pretty intuitive. But this this administration, what I saw today,
(24:38):
the sense, the atmosphere, just as I said earlier, just
a backslapping camaraderie of a team working together. Uh. To
use Carolyn Levett's phrase, this you can't keep up. It's
a whirlwind. This administration is working around the clock. I
truly believe them.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Well, I think I agree as I was sitting last
week with Pam Bondy interviewing her at Sapack with Center Cruz.
We were backstage talking and I'd talked to Cash when
he was going through his confirmation several others. This administration
just feels like it is a dynasty team and it's
us against the world, and we are going to do
(25:18):
our jobs to the best of our ability. We're going
to work together. There is none of this. This is
my turf and you stay off at and it sounds
like from the way that you met with so many
cabinet members today, that's exactly what it feels like to
you as well.
Speaker 4 (25:31):
Listen, I'm a country boy from Texas that wears a
cowboy hat and and somehow got popular posting truck videos
years ago. The fact that I was sitting in the
Oval office today, or or sitting down with the Vice
president and they're willing to talk to me and share
with me their priorities, that should tell you I'm nobody.
(25:51):
I was the dumbest guy in the room. I can
tell you how to sixteen people in that room, I
was the dumbest guy in the room. Then I'm telling
you there was some intelligent folks in there. But the
fact that they would extend an invitation graciously to me
and give me the hospitality to come in there, it's surreal.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yeah, we ain't fly over country, my friend, we ain't
fly over country. They want to talk to Americans, and
that's who you talk to. That's the reason why you
and I are friends. You're a real person with a
real story to tell, with a real audience of a
hard work and men and women that just want to
be left alone by their government and they want to
have a great life for their kids and their grandkids.
And going around the media and talking directly to you
(26:29):
and others. I'm meant it today when I text you congratulations,
I'm proud of you forgetting to be there. I hope
it's a memory you'll never ever forget. And I'm glad
that they're looking to talk to people like you in
these moments who can get it out to everybody else.
I'll say this, don't forget grab everybody. Listen grab Chad show.
It's great Chad break their show, and then he does
(26:50):
a morning show as well called Dear America. Wherever you
can get your podcast, grab it, Chad. I appreciate you
taking the time to come on here and talk and
tell people what it was really like today. We try
to pull back the curtain and not have the headlines,
but actually talk to the people making decisions. So I'm
so thankful that you took the time tonight to come on.
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Thank you brother, aren't you glad? Kamala Harris isn't president?
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I aim into that. Chad Pray through my friends, Chad
Pray the show. Dear America, Graber, wherever you get your podcasts,
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