March 3, 2025 • 29 mins
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Zelensky's Visit to the White House:
- Zelensky's meeting with Trump and Vice President was intended to discuss a peace deal.
- The meeting did not go well, with Zelensky demanding more financial aid, which Trump found disrespectful.
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Financial Aid and Accountability:
- Zelensky had already received significant financial aid ($350 billion) but admitted to not knowing where half of it went.
- Trump emphasized the need for accountability and was critical of Zelensky's approach.
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Diplomatic Conduct:
- Contrasts Zelensky's public confrontation with Trump to the diplomatic conduct expected from world leaders.
- It highlights an example of diplomacy between Trump and UK Prime Minister Starmer, where disagreements were handled privately.
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Media and Public Perception:
- Zelensky's media presence and public image were discussed, including his appearances in magazines and award shows.
- Criticizes Zelensky for leveraging his fame rather than focusing on peace.
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U.S. Stance on the War:
- Trump expressed a desire for peace and criticized the ongoing war in Ukraine.
- Mentions the U.S. administration's stance on not providing further aid without a clear move towards peace.
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International Reactions:
- Following the failed meeting, Zelensky sought support from European leaders.
- Discusses the involvement of the UK and France in working towards a ceasefire plan.
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Criticism of Zelensky and Putin:
- Critical of both Zelensky and Russian President Vladimir Putin.
- It describes Putin as a ruthless leader and emphasizes the need for a peace deal to end the suffering.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
So let's just deal with the elephant in the room
for many around the world that are now trying to
figure out what they're gonna do with a guy named Zolensky.
Zolensky came to the White House to meet with the
President of United States of America, then the Vice President,
and they were supposed to be talking about getting a
peace deal done. What did Zelenski do? He came into
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the Oval office and he tried to dictate to Donald
Trump that they need to give him more money. It
didn't go well. You've probably seen the video. If you
have not, I want to play for you the audio
just to remind many of you of how rude and
how incredibly arrogant Zolensky was to come in after already
(00:45):
receiving three hundred and fifty billion, admitting that he doesn't
know where half of it went, and clearly coming to
the White House claiming he wanted a peace deal when
he just wanted more money to continue to fight an
endless war, a war by the way, that many in
Ukraine are in fact getting rich off of the influx
(01:05):
of money coming in. Now the President has made it
clear he wants there to be a deal for peace,
to stop the senseless killing of innocent people on both sides.
The President thinks this war is a terrible war and
there aren't yes, entirely, too many people that are dying,
and there doesn't seem to be end in sight either.
(01:27):
Zelensky is loving the power and the fame coming from
this war. It has made him a household name worldwide,
and he also has become a darling of the media worldwide.
He's on the cover of Vanny Fair. He was appearing,
if you remember, in the award shows, and Hollywood was
clapping in everyone wanted to get their picture taken with him.
(01:50):
He came to d C when the Democrats were in
charge and addressed Congress and was a quote rock star.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Many believed.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, now the president says, we're not doing that anymore,
and I want you to hear. This is the two
minute version of the conversation, an incredibly important one that
very well may undo. Zolensky, take a listen.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you President,
with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president
for having to bring it into this poem Ukraine that
(02:34):
you say, what problems we have? I have been to Well,
come on, I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories,
and I know what happens is you bring people, you
bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president, are do
you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?
And do you think that it's respectful to come to
the Oval Office of the United States of America and
(02:56):
attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent
the structure of your cot.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Of a lot of questions. Let's heart from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
First of all, during the.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
War, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice
ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it
in the future.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Bless you don't know, God, bless you're not blessed. You
don't know. You don't tell us what we're gonna feel.
We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what
we're gonna feel.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm not telling you because you're in.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
No position to dictate that. Remember this, you know you're
in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We're gonna feel very.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Good, feel influenced. We're gonna feel very good and very
strong influence. You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
From the very beginning of the war.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
right now with us. You start having cards right now.
You don't playing. You're gambling with the lives of millions
of people. I think you're gambling with world War three.
You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing
is very disrespectful to the country, this country. Far more
(04:10):
than a lot of people said they should have.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Have. You said thank you once at times you went
to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October offers
some words of appreciation for the United States of America
and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
A president who is trying to save your country. Now,
what happened from that meeting.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The President of the United States of America obviously knew
the intent of Zelenski. His intent was to come in
and to attack this administration in front of the cameras
and the of office.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, to be clear, and I think this is really, really,
really really important to be clear.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
World leaders disagree with each other all the time, but
what a world leaders do that are different. Real leaders
have those disagreements not in front of the American people
or the world. They have a unified front in the
meeting where the media is there, and then they talk
about their differences quietly behind closed doors. They don't litigate
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it in the media. I'll give you an example of
this that I think is actually a really important example.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
This is a moment that took place.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Where you had the President of the United States of
America meeting and having a press conference with the UK's
Prime Minister Starmer, who came over to the US about desire.
It came about making Canada the fitty first state, with
(05:53):
Steiner saying and the media was trying to get a
riff between the UK and the press, and the media
was hoping that there would be the bait that was
taken here right and that there would somehow they could
walk out of the saying going, oh, a UK and
America on edge with one another. I want you to
listen to what real diplomacy sounds like. By the way,
(06:16):
Starmer is a guy that I don't think actually likes
Trump that much. The UK right now and what they're
doing cracking down on free speech, arresting people for things
they post online that they disagree with. When it comes
to the issue of free speech, these are two leaders
that disagree.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
On a lot of things right now.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Starmar, I'm sure would have loved to have had Joe
Biden win reelection, but he understands how important it is
for the two countries to work together and certainly publicly
listen to his words today.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
You told me that you believe that foreign countries pay tariffs,
but Americans who are concerned.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
About higher prices.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Believe, as most people do, that they're paid by consumers
and importers when they import things into this country. Can
you explain how you came to this belief that foreign
governments are paying tariffs?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And for the Prime.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Minister, did you discuss with President Trump his repeated statements
of desire to annex Canada And has the King expressed
any concern over the President's apparent desire to remove one
of his realms from his.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Control Right By the way, notice this reporter, this is
a clear.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I got you moment.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It is trying to drive a wedge between the President
of the United States of America and the Prime Minister
in Ukraine. It is obvious that this question is outloaded.
They're wanting a headline of a riff. They're wanting a disagreement.
And when you deal with real diplomacy, and you are
(08:09):
a real world leader, you learned very quickly when these
types of questions are being asked, and how to make
sure that you don't walk in and give the media
what they want. And what I would refer to is
nothing more than a booby trap, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
All it is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And not only did the President see it coming, but
you clearly had the Prime minister. He knew, like, we're
not dumb, we understand what's about to happen, we understand
where this is going.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
And we're not taking the bait. After more than a
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look at the UK Prime Minister and the UK Prime
Minister was asked a loaded question about America, mentioning candis
should become the fifty first state and try to use
that question to draw it to get the UK Prime
Minister to criticize the President. And I want you to
(10:09):
listen to how he handled, because this is what real
diplomats do, like, this is what real world leaders act
like when they're in a meeting. They don't in front
of the press.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now, they may have different disagreements behind closed doors, but
they sure as hell don't do it in the public.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So I'll go ahead the first part.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
The tariffs are necessary because we've been treated very unfairly
by many many countries, including our friends, friend Info. But
I will tell you it's going to make our country
rich and it's going to stop us from being a
laughing stock all over the world because we have been
taken advantage of like no country has ever been taken
(10:45):
an advantage of.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And look, we had a really good discussion, of productive discussion,
a good discussion as a results of which our teams
are not going to be working together on an economic deal.
Our team is going to be working together all in
security in Ukraine. You mentioned Canada. I think you're trying
to find a divide between us that doesn't exist with
the closest of nations. And we had very good discussions today,
(11:10):
but we didn't thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean, he called out the reporter. You hear what
he said there let's just rewind that. Listen to the
brilliance of what the Prime Minister said. He's like, dude,
I'm a pro. You guys are trying to make up
controversy here that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm not going to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Working together all in security in Ukraine you mentioned Canada.
I think you're trying to find a divide between us
that doesn't exist with the closest of nations, and we
had very good discussions today, but we are.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The closest of nations now.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Do I believe there was some disagreements behind the scenes, Absolutely,
I have no doubt they had some disagreements behind the scenes.
I have no doubt they disagreed on Zelensky for example,
in UK funding, I have no doubt we've seen this
from Zelensky hauling it to the UK to ten Downing
(12:13):
Street begging for money since America said like we're closed
for business right now. We're in favor of peace. Like
we are in favor of peace. We are not in
favor of anarchy. We're not in favor of chaos. We're
not in favor of what you are talking about right now,
which is just taking more money from us with zero accountability.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That is what we are not in favor of.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And that's what America said, is Zelensky like, you're not
getting another dime from us until you are moving towards peace.
We've already given you a ton, and there's no indication
that you're working or advocating or supporting the idea of
ending this war.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We want this war to end.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
By the way, we're no longer just going to rine
unlimited amount of checks for whatever the hell you need
when you can't even account for fifty percent of the money,
which is also a major problem. The American people deserve answers.
And by the way, that was part of where the
minerals deal was coming up, like with the American taxpayers
need to be paid back, and how do we do that.
(13:20):
By the way, most of Europe, they their deals are
all about getting paid back. America, we get taken advantage of,
as the President said, and we are stupid, I should say,
Biden Harris, We're stupid. And what happened with Biden Harris
the complete opposite of.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Taking care of the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We've just been giving money away left and right, over
and over, day after day, week after week, month after month.
Three hundred and fifty plus million is what we have
given to Ukraine, and countless amounts of ammunition and military
equipment that we cannot there's no accounting for it. We
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have no idea where it is, we have no idea
what's been done with it. We don't know if any
of it's been sold on the black market. There's been
accusations in the last twenty four hours of that being
a problem as well. And so what did Zelenski do
after he realized he screwed up? He went on Brett
Behar's show on Fox and tried to quasi apologize into backtrack. Okay,
(14:22):
that was something that we saw, and it was a
sad moment. It really really was, because you could see
that he realized at that point after the meeting, Okay,
maybe you did this wrong. His phone, I'm sure, blew
up from people back in Ukraine saying what the hell
are you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Staff saying what the hell are you doing.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You don't go in the White House and start dictating
the president the way you just did.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You don't have any of the cards the President put.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He's absolutely right to walk in here and start dictating
in us and demanding what you know what you're gonna
do or what we're supposed to do for you, like
we're not doing that here. Okay, that's that's a large
part of this number one. But now he's in a
situation where he's got to go around the world and
back again because America said no. And by the way,
(15:09):
the President also said, you're more than welcome to come
back to the White House, and we will. We will
bring you in when you're ready to talk about a
piece deal. That's a really important part of this conversation.
When you're ready to talk about peace, then you're that
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you have an open invitation to come back in. This
is the this is the problem when when America is
weak under the last president of the United States of America,
we got taken advantage of to the tune of three
hundred and fifty plus billion. I said billion, three hundred
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and fifty plus billion of your tax dollars going to Zelenski,
a guy that has no intent apparently on actually saving
his country from this type of anarchy. By the way,
he also suspended elections. It's an important point that should
be brought up. Now, let's talk about Russia real quick,
because I also think Russia and what is going on
(16:16):
with Russia is also very important.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Do I like Russia?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I hate him. Do I like Putin?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I hate him.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do I think that Vladimir Putin is a scumbag pos
that kills his political opponents?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do I think he's killed his own people yes? And
tortures people yes. Do I think it's barbaric and inhumane?
And I would argue war crimes that he's sending extremely
wounded soldiers back to the front lines. Yes, that's all
the more reason why I want a deal done. There
are kind and good people in Russia that are being
used as like a napkin that you just throw away
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after you wipe your face, toilet paper after you wipe
your ables. He doesn't care about his people. He doesn't
care about having them die. He doesn't care how many
of them are injured, he doesn't care how many their
lives have been ruined.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Because he's Vladimir.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Putin, He's spawn of Satan in my opinion. But Zelensky
has to understand that you need to get a deal
done for there to be peace, and the way that
he came in the White House was not about any
of that. It was give me more money, and then
that might disappear and go to other people. Give me
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more money, and I'm going to buy and do and
hook up my friends and family and colleagues with all
of this cast that's rolling in and equipment that's rolling in.
This is the reason why so many Americans are now
waking up going, hey, we're not here to fund endless wars.
And by the way, if you desperately need this money,
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then let's make a deal. Let's make a deal on
minerals and we'll expand that. And so the American people
are not paying for your.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
War that you can't afford.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
At the end of the day is the present. You
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notice that, by the way, when America stops being a sucker,
other people are more than happy to step up to
the plate, Like when we stop giving money to the
UN or to NATO or to Zelenski. There are other
nations that do one of two things. Either they drop
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out with us. They're like, well, yeah, if they're not in,
We're out, or they're like, all right, well, we got
to step up now because America's basically wasted enough of
their money and we believe in this issue more than
they do, so we'll step up. Or maybe they just think,
all right, it's our turn to step up, so we're
gonna deal with it now. I'm going to give you
an example of this. There are two different headlines right now,
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and one of them is from MPR Europe and it
says uk France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire
plan for Russia's war in Ukraine. So all of a sudden,
uk France and the Ukraine are like, all right, let's
get a deal done for a ceasefire. Because now Zelenski's like,
America is not going to just send me blank checks
(21:31):
for three hundred and fifty billion more dollars over what
they've already sent me.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So he's understanding, now the screw up.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And what did he do when America said no more,
and when the President said you're not getting another dime,
and when he realized that Congress is not going to
vote to send him a bunch of more money because
it's very unpopular with the US right now and the
American voter, especially in light of Elon Muskin, Doge and
Trump and everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So what did he do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He immediately ran to Europe. He ran to the UK,
he ran to ten Downing Street, he ran to France.
He's like, all right, guys, like, look, I may whether
he admitted he screwed up in America or not. He's like, hey,
they're not giving me any more money. You guys don't
want Russia expansion. You understand what that looks like. And
he did the fear mongering thing with them, and so
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he's like, hey, can you guys start writing me a
blank check now? And it looks like France in the
UK are totally fine with that, which, by the way,
it may be more of their interests for Zolensky to
make to stand up to Russia. They're in a different
part of the world. They have different definitions of success
and failure when it comes to this. But this other
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headline says Britain and France Ukraine agree to work on
a ceasefire plan to present to the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh so, hold on a second, you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Still admit that the United States are the biggest player here,
and what France in the UK may have actually done
is said to them, Hey, guys, we can't bankroll you
the way that America has Zolensky, So you need to
figure out a ceasefire. What we will do, because we
want you to be successful, is will help broker this
deal with Trump since you screwed it up so ly.
(23:09):
And so the Britain Prime Minister, who by the way,
is a hard core lefty all right, who is arresting
people for things they write on social media. So don't
get excited about the Prime minister starmer at all. This
guy is not pro free speech. He's not pro the
people in any capacity. So before you start praising him,
(23:30):
look at what he's actually doing in his country.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So let's throw that out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
There is an aside here just so you understand the
real landscape of the people we're dealing with. But what
the Prime minister said was is he prepared to host
a summit of European leaders discussed ending the war. The
summit has been overshadowed by the scolding. This is how
the European press put it. By US President Donald Trump
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of Zelensky at the White House on Friday after being
ungreat for US supporting Ukraine's battle against the invasion of Russia,
which he absolutely was. It was like, hey, how dare
you not give me even more money after the three
hundred fifty billion you've already given me an aid? What
are you guys doing? You need to give me more?
So what did Starmer, the UK Prime Minister do. He
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focused quote on being a bridge to restore peace talks
and he used the collapse of those talks as an
opportunity to re engage with Trump and Zelensky and the
French President Macrone rather than ramp up the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Quote We've now agreed.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one
or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan
to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss the plan
with the United States, is what Starmar told the BBC.
The Prime Minister and Macrone have both spoken to Trump
since Friday. They also confirmed in the meeting. Sunday's meeting,
they said quote is an important step. The London meeting
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was taken on greater importance in defending the war torn
ally and shoring.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Up the continent's defenses.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Sunday summit is likely to include talks on establishing a
European military force to be sent to Ukraine to under
underpin a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Starmar said it would involve a coalition of the willing.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
By the way, there's no indication in America would be
a part of that, and I don't want to send
troops to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I just want to be clear about that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Starmar said, does not trust Russian President Putin, by the way,
neither does America, but does trust Trump, saying quote, I
do believe Donald Trump when he says he wants lasting peace.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
The answer to this is yes, he said.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Today, Starmers said there are intense discussions to get a
security guarantee from the US as one of the three
components for a lasting peace if.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There is a deal.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
If there is to be a deal, the PM said,
if there is to be a stopping of the fighting,
then that agreement has to be defended because the worst
of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause
in Russia. Putin comes again. Starmar said, this has happened
in the past, and I think it is a real risk,
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and that is why we must ensure that if there's
a deal, it's a lasting deal not a temporary pause.
So to be clear, even the Prime Minister of the
Ukraine Kane understand or i should say of England understands
that you're an idiot for the way that you talk
to America in the Oval Office and the President Trump,
because you guys can't even get this deal done for
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peace without America giving you security that you need around
the peace deal. Like when you add all that up,
now you understand just how idiotic this meeting was. Now
the meeting at Lancaster House is an important one. It's
near Buckingham Palace. It's obvious that Starmar's trying to get
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this all back on the table. The summit will include
leaders from France, Germany, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Canada, Finland, Sweden,
the jez Republic in Romania, the Turkish Foreign Minister, Native
Security Secretary General and President of the European Commission, and
the European Council will also a notice America is not there.
Why is America not there? Because we don't want to
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take the lead, because taking the lead costs us even
more money. So let me give you another headline, BBC,
you can France to present Ukraine peace plan to Trump
and help financially with a deal for Ukraine. Again, France
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and England are saying they want to step up on
a security deal.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Great, Like I love that you.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Guys need to start writing checks because we've written three
hundred and fifty billion worth. In my opinion, we should
be done unless there is real peace that we can
get our hands on. Now, if we're giving money to
give them defensive weapons for peace, that's a little different.
But I still, by the way, don't think we should
pay for as taxpayers think we should do the minerals deal. Hey,
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we'll help get minerals out of your country, and that's
how we're going to pay back the American tax and
we're going to have to be a part of that process.
Like I'm sick and tired of just sending my tax
dollars all over the world when there are places that
have natural resources that we should be able to say,
you're going to pay us back this way. Another example
is this is what we've never done in the Middle East,
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and we should have done it multiple times, which is, hey,
we'll come in and help protect and defend, but we
got to get our money back, and that's going to
be through oil sales. We don't do that. Donald Trump's like,
that's stupid. The American people shouldn't be paying for all
of this, and The's exactly right in the way he's
doing it. So notice all these countries, they're all meeting,
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and to be clear, this is what I refer to
as a freak out meeting. They realize the president is
screwing around and that's why so many in America voted
for Donald Trump. So he's saying, good luck. You want peace,
call us Until then you're on your own. One eight
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So let's just deal with the elephant in the room
for many around the world that are now trying to
figure out what they're gonna do with a guy named Zolensky.
Zolensky came to the White House to meet with the
President of United States of America, then the Vice President,
and they were supposed to be talking about getting a
peace deal done. What did Zelenski do? He came into
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the Oval office and he tried to dictate to Donald
Trump that they need to give him more money. It
didn't go well. You've probably seen the video. If you
have not, I want to play for you the audio
just to remind many of you of how rude and
how incredibly arrogant Zolensky was to come in after already
(00:45):
receiving three hundred and fifty billion, admitting that he doesn't
know where half of it went, and clearly coming to
the White House claiming he wanted a peace deal when
he just wanted more money to continue to fight an
endless war, a war by the way, that many in
Ukraine are in fact getting rich off of the influx
(01:05):
of money coming in. Now the President has made it
clear he wants there to be a deal for peace,
to stop the senseless killing of innocent people on both sides.
The President thinks this war is a terrible war and
there aren't yes, entirely, too many people that are dying,
and there doesn't seem to be end in sight either.
(01:27):
Zelensky is loving the power and the fame coming from
this war. It has made him a household name worldwide,
and he also has become a darling of the media worldwide.
He's on the cover of Vanny Fair. He was appearing,
if you remember, in the award shows, and Hollywood was
clapping in everyone wanted to get their picture taken with him.
(01:50):
He came to d C when the Democrats were in
charge and addressed Congress and was a quote rock star.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Many believed.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
Well, now the president says, we're not doing that anymore,
and I want you to hear. This is the two
minute version of the conversation, an incredibly important one that
very well may undo. Zolensky, take a listen.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
I'm talking about the kind of diplomacy that's going to
end the destruction of your country. Yes, but if you President,
with respect, I think it's disrespectful for you to come
into the Oval Office to try to litigate this in
front of the American media. Right now, you guys are
going around and forcing conscripts to the front lines because
you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president
for having to bring it into this poem Ukraine that
(02:34):
you say, what problems we have? I have been to Well,
come on, I've actually I've actually watched and seen the stories,
and I know what happens is you bring people, you
bring them on a propaganda tour. Mister president, are do
you disagree that you've had problems bringing people in your military?
And do you think that it's respectful to come to
the Oval Office of the United States of America and
(02:56):
attack the administration that is trying to trying to prevent
the structure of your cot.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Of a lot of questions. Let's heart from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
First of all, during the.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
War, everybody has problems, even you. But you have nice
ocean and don't feel now, but you will feel it
in the future.
Speaker 5 (03:14):
Bless you don't know, God, bless you're not blessed. You
don't know. You don't tell us what we're gonna feel.
We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what
we're gonna feel.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
I'm not telling you because you're in.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
No position to dictate that. Remember this, you know you're
in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
We're gonna feel very.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
Good, feel influenced. We're gonna feel very good and very
strong influence. You're right now not in a very good position.
You've allowed you.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
From the very beginning of the war.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
Not in a good position. You don't have the cards
right now with us. You start having cards right now.
You don't playing. You're gambling with the lives of millions
of people. I think you're gambling with world War three.
You're gambling with World War three. And what you're doing
is very disrespectful to the country, this country. Far more
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than a lot of people said they should have.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
Have. You said thank you once at times you went
to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October offers
some words of appreciation for the United States of America
and the president who's trying to save your country.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
A president who is trying to save your country. Now,
what happened from that meeting.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
The President of the United States of America obviously knew
the intent of Zelenski. His intent was to come in
and to attack this administration in front of the cameras
and the of office.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Now, to be clear, and I think this is really, really,
really really important to be clear.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
World leaders disagree with each other all the time, but
what a world leaders do that are different. Real leaders
have those disagreements not in front of the American people
or the world. They have a unified front in the
meeting where the media is there, and then they talk
about their differences quietly behind closed doors. They don't litigate
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it in the media. I'll give you an example of
this that I think is actually a really important example.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
This is a moment that took place.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Where you had the President of the United States of
America meeting and having a press conference with the UK's
Prime Minister Starmer, who came over to the US about desire.
It came about making Canada the fitty first state, with
(05:53):
Steiner saying and the media was trying to get a
riff between the UK and the press, and the media
was hoping that there would be the bait that was
taken here right and that there would somehow they could
walk out of the saying going, oh, a UK and
America on edge with one another. I want you to
listen to what real diplomacy sounds like. By the way,
(06:16):
Starmer is a guy that I don't think actually likes
Trump that much. The UK right now and what they're
doing cracking down on free speech, arresting people for things
they post online that they disagree with. When it comes
to the issue of free speech, these are two leaders
that disagree.
Speaker 2 (06:35):
On a lot of things right now.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Starmar, I'm sure would have loved to have had Joe
Biden win reelection, but he understands how important it is
for the two countries to work together and certainly publicly
listen to his words today.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
You told me that you believe that foreign countries pay tariffs,
but Americans who are concerned.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
About higher prices.
Speaker 6 (07:00):
Believe, as most people do, that they're paid by consumers
and importers when they import things into this country. Can
you explain how you came to this belief that foreign
governments are paying tariffs?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
And for the Prime.
Speaker 6 (07:16):
Minister, did you discuss with President Trump his repeated statements
of desire to annex Canada And has the King expressed
any concern over the President's apparent desire to remove one
of his realms from his.
Speaker 1 (07:36):
Control Right By the way, notice this reporter, this is
a clear.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
I got you moment.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
It is trying to drive a wedge between the President
of the United States of America and the Prime Minister
in Ukraine. It is obvious that this question is outloaded.
They're wanting a headline of a riff. They're wanting a disagreement.
And when you deal with real diplomacy, and you are
(08:09):
a real world leader, you learned very quickly when these
types of questions are being asked, and how to make
sure that you don't walk in and give the media
what they want. And what I would refer to is
nothing more than a booby trap, that's.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
All it is.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And not only did the President see it coming, but
you clearly had the Prime minister. He knew, like, we're
not dumb, we understand what's about to happen, we understand
where this is going.
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look at the UK Prime Minister and the UK Prime
Minister was asked a loaded question about America, mentioning candis
should become the fifty first state and try to use
that question to draw it to get the UK Prime
Minister to criticize the President. And I want you to
(10:09):
listen to how he handled, because this is what real
diplomats do, like, this is what real world leaders act
like when they're in a meeting. They don't in front
of the press.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Now, they may have different disagreements behind closed doors, but
they sure as hell don't do it in the public.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
So I'll go ahead the first part.
Speaker 7 (10:25):
The tariffs are necessary because we've been treated very unfairly
by many many countries, including our friends, friend Info. But
I will tell you it's going to make our country
rich and it's going to stop us from being a
laughing stock all over the world because we have been
taken advantage of like no country has ever been taken
(10:45):
an advantage of.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
And look, we had a really good discussion, of productive discussion,
a good discussion as a results of which our teams
are not going to be working together on an economic deal.
Our team is going to be working together all in
security in Ukraine. You mentioned Canada. I think you're trying
to find a divide between us that doesn't exist with
the closest of nations. And we had very good discussions today,
(11:10):
but we didn't thank you.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I mean, he called out the reporter. You hear what
he said there let's just rewind that. Listen to the
brilliance of what the Prime Minister said. He's like, dude,
I'm a pro. You guys are trying to make up
controversy here that doesn't exist.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I'm not going to be a part of it.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
Working together all in security in Ukraine you mentioned Canada.
I think you're trying to find a divide between us
that doesn't exist with the closest of nations, and we
had very good discussions today, but we are.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
The closest of nations now.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Do I believe there was some disagreements behind the scenes, Absolutely,
I have no doubt they had some disagreements behind the scenes.
I have no doubt they disagreed on Zelensky for example,
in UK funding, I have no doubt we've seen this
from Zelensky hauling it to the UK to ten Downing
(12:13):
Street begging for money since America said like we're closed
for business right now. We're in favor of peace. Like
we are in favor of peace. We are not in
favor of anarchy. We're not in favor of chaos. We're
not in favor of what you are talking about right now,
which is just taking more money from us with zero accountability.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
That is what we are not in favor of.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
And that's what America said, is Zelensky like, you're not
getting another dime from us until you are moving towards peace.
We've already given you a ton, and there's no indication
that you're working or advocating or supporting the idea of
ending this war.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
We want this war to end.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
By the way, we're no longer just going to rine
unlimited amount of checks for whatever the hell you need
when you can't even account for fifty percent of the money,
which is also a major problem. The American people deserve answers.
And by the way, that was part of where the
minerals deal was coming up, like with the American taxpayers
need to be paid back, and how do we do that.
(13:20):
By the way, most of Europe, they their deals are
all about getting paid back. America, we get taken advantage of,
as the President said, and we are stupid, I should say,
Biden Harris, We're stupid. And what happened with Biden Harris
the complete opposite of.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Taking care of the taxpayers.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
We've just been giving money away left and right, over
and over, day after day, week after week, month after month.
Three hundred and fifty plus million is what we have
given to Ukraine, and countless amounts of ammunition and military
equipment that we cannot there's no accounting for it. We
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have no idea where it is, we have no idea
what's been done with it. We don't know if any
of it's been sold on the black market. There's been
accusations in the last twenty four hours of that being
a problem as well. And so what did Zelenski do
after he realized he screwed up? He went on Brett
Behar's show on Fox and tried to quasi apologize into backtrack. Okay,
(14:22):
that was something that we saw, and it was a
sad moment. It really really was, because you could see
that he realized at that point after the meeting, Okay,
maybe you did this wrong. His phone, I'm sure, blew
up from people back in Ukraine saying what the hell
are you doing?
Speaker 2 (14:41):
Staff saying what the hell are you doing.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
You don't go in the White House and start dictating
the president the way you just did.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
You don't have any of the cards the President put.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
He's absolutely right to walk in here and start dictating
in us and demanding what you know what you're gonna
do or what we're supposed to do for you, like
we're not doing that here. Okay, that's that's a large
part of this number one. But now he's in a
situation where he's got to go around the world and
back again because America said no. And by the way,
(15:09):
the President also said, you're more than welcome to come
back to the White House, and we will. We will
bring you in when you're ready to talk about a
piece deal. That's a really important part of this conversation.
When you're ready to talk about peace, then you're that
(15:31):
you have an open invitation to come back in. This
is the this is the problem when when America is
weak under the last president of the United States of America,
we got taken advantage of to the tune of three
hundred and fifty plus billion. I said billion, three hundred
(15:53):
and fifty plus billion of your tax dollars going to Zelenski,
a guy that has no intent apparently on actually saving
his country from this type of anarchy. By the way,
he also suspended elections. It's an important point that should
be brought up. Now, let's talk about Russia real quick,
because I also think Russia and what is going on
(16:16):
with Russia is also very important.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Do I like Russia?
Speaker 3 (16:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:20):
I hate him. Do I like Putin?
Speaker 5 (16:22):
No?
Speaker 2 (16:23):
I hate him.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Do I think that Vladimir Putin is a scumbag pos
that kills his political opponents?
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
Do I think he's killed his own people yes? And
tortures people yes. Do I think it's barbaric and inhumane?
And I would argue war crimes that he's sending extremely
wounded soldiers back to the front lines. Yes, that's all
the more reason why I want a deal done. There
are kind and good people in Russia that are being
used as like a napkin that you just throw away
(16:50):
after you wipe your face, toilet paper after you wipe
your ables. He doesn't care about his people. He doesn't
care about having them die. He doesn't care how many
of them are injured, he doesn't care how many their
lives have been ruined.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
Because he's Vladimir.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
Putin, He's spawn of Satan in my opinion. But Zelensky
has to understand that you need to get a deal
done for there to be peace, and the way that
he came in the White House was not about any
of that. It was give me more money, and then
that might disappear and go to other people. Give me
(17:24):
more money, and I'm going to buy and do and
hook up my friends and family and colleagues with all
of this cast that's rolling in and equipment that's rolling in.
This is the reason why so many Americans are now
waking up going, hey, we're not here to fund endless wars.
And by the way, if you desperately need this money,
(17:46):
then let's make a deal. Let's make a deal on
minerals and we'll expand that. And so the American people
are not paying for your.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
War that you can't afford.
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At the end of the day is the present. You
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UN or to NATO or to Zelenski. There are other
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out with us. They're like, well, yeah, if they're not in,
We're out, or they're like, all right, well, we got
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their money and we believe in this issue more than
they do, so we'll step up. Or maybe they just think,
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and one of them is from MPR Europe and it
says uk France and Ukraine agree to work on ceasefire
plan for Russia's war in Ukraine. So all of a sudden,
uk France and the Ukraine are like, all right, let's
get a deal done for a ceasefire. Because now Zelenski's like,
America is not going to just send me blank checks
(21:31):
for three hundred and fifty billion more dollars over what
they've already sent me.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
So he's understanding, now the screw up.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And what did he do when America said no more,
and when the President said you're not getting another dime,
and when he realized that Congress is not going to
vote to send him a bunch of more money because
it's very unpopular with the US right now and the
American voter, especially in light of Elon Muskin, Doge and
Trump and everything else.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
So what did he do?
Speaker 1 (21:57):
He immediately ran to Europe. He ran to the UK,
he ran to ten Downing Street, he ran to France.
He's like, all right, guys, like, look, I may whether
he admitted he screwed up in America or not. He's like, hey,
they're not giving me any more money. You guys don't
want Russia expansion. You understand what that looks like. And
he did the fear mongering thing with them, and so
(22:18):
he's like, hey, can you guys start writing me a
blank check now? And it looks like France in the
UK are totally fine with that, which, by the way,
it may be more of their interests for Zolensky to
make to stand up to Russia. They're in a different
part of the world. They have different definitions of success
and failure when it comes to this. But this other
(22:40):
headline says Britain and France Ukraine agree to work on
a ceasefire plan to present to the United States.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Oh so, hold on a second, you.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
Still admit that the United States are the biggest player here,
and what France in the UK may have actually done
is said to them, Hey, guys, we can't bankroll you
the way that America has Zolensky, So you need to
figure out a ceasefire. What we will do, because we
want you to be successful, is will help broker this
deal with Trump since you screwed it up so ly.
(23:09):
And so the Britain Prime Minister, who by the way,
is a hard core lefty all right, who is arresting
people for things they write on social media. So don't
get excited about the Prime minister starmer at all. This
guy is not pro free speech. He's not pro the
people in any capacity. So before you start praising him,
(23:30):
look at what he's actually doing in his country.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
So let's throw that out.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
There is an aside here just so you understand the
real landscape of the people we're dealing with. But what
the Prime minister said was is he prepared to host
a summit of European leaders discussed ending the war. The
summit has been overshadowed by the scolding. This is how
the European press put it. By US President Donald Trump
(23:54):
of Zelensky at the White House on Friday after being
ungreat for US supporting Ukraine's battle against the invasion of Russia,
which he absolutely was. It was like, hey, how dare
you not give me even more money after the three
hundred fifty billion you've already given me an aid? What
are you guys doing? You need to give me more?
So what did Starmer, the UK Prime Minister do. He
(24:16):
focused quote on being a bridge to restore peace talks
and he used the collapse of those talks as an
opportunity to re engage with Trump and Zelensky and the
French President Macrone rather than ramp up the rhetoric.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
Quote We've now agreed.
Speaker 1 (24:32):
That the United Kingdom, along with France and possibly one
or two others, will work with Ukraine on a plan
to stop the fighting, and then we'll discuss the plan
with the United States, is what Starmar told the BBC.
The Prime Minister and Macrone have both spoken to Trump
since Friday. They also confirmed in the meeting. Sunday's meeting,
they said quote is an important step. The London meeting
(24:52):
was taken on greater importance in defending the war torn
ally and shoring.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Up the continent's defenses.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Sunday summit is likely to include talks on establishing a
European military force to be sent to Ukraine to under
underpin a ceasefire.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
Starmar said it would involve a coalition of the willing.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
By the way, there's no indication in America would be
a part of that, and I don't want to send
troops to Ukraine.
Speaker 2 (25:16):
I just want to be clear about that.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
Starmar said, does not trust Russian President Putin, by the way,
neither does America, but does trust Trump, saying quote, I
do believe Donald Trump when he says he wants lasting peace.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
The answer to this is yes, he said.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Today, Starmers said there are intense discussions to get a
security guarantee from the US as one of the three
components for a lasting peace if.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
There is a deal.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
If there is to be a deal, the PM said,
if there is to be a stopping of the fighting,
then that agreement has to be defended because the worst
of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause
in Russia. Putin comes again. Starmar said, this has happened
in the past, and I think it is a real risk,
(26:00):
and that is why we must ensure that if there's
a deal, it's a lasting deal not a temporary pause.
So to be clear, even the Prime Minister of the
Ukraine Kane understand or i should say of England understands
that you're an idiot for the way that you talk
to America in the Oval Office and the President Trump,
because you guys can't even get this deal done for
(26:22):
peace without America giving you security that you need around
the peace deal. Like when you add all that up,
now you understand just how idiotic this meeting was. Now
the meeting at Lancaster House is an important one. It's
near Buckingham Palace. It's obvious that Starmar's trying to get
(26:42):
this all back on the table. The summit will include
leaders from France, Germany, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Spain, Canada, Finland, Sweden,
the jez Republic in Romania, the Turkish Foreign Minister, Native
Security Secretary General and President of the European Commission, and
the European Council will also a notice America is not there.
Why is America not there? Because we don't want to
(27:05):
take the lead, because taking the lead costs us even
more money. So let me give you another headline, BBC,
you can France to present Ukraine peace plan to Trump
and help financially with a deal for Ukraine. Again, France
(27:27):
and England are saying they want to step up on
a security deal.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Great, Like I love that you.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Guys need to start writing checks because we've written three
hundred and fifty billion worth. In my opinion, we should
be done unless there is real peace that we can
get our hands on. Now, if we're giving money to
give them defensive weapons for peace, that's a little different.
But I still, by the way, don't think we should
pay for as taxpayers think we should do the minerals deal. Hey,
(27:56):
we'll help get minerals out of your country, and that's
how we're going to pay back the American tax and
we're going to have to be a part of that process.
Like I'm sick and tired of just sending my tax
dollars all over the world when there are places that
have natural resources that we should be able to say,
you're going to pay us back this way. Another example
is this is what we've never done in the Middle East,
(28:16):
and we should have done it multiple times, which is, hey,
we'll come in and help protect and defend, but we
got to get our money back, and that's going to
be through oil sales. We don't do that. Donald Trump's like,
that's stupid. The American people shouldn't be paying for all
of this, and The's exactly right in the way he's
doing it. So notice all these countries, they're all meeting,
(28:37):
and to be clear, this is what I refer to
as a freak out meeting. They realize the president is
screwing around and that's why so many in America voted
for Donald Trump. So he's saying, good luck. You want peace,
call us Until then you're on your own. One eight
hundred four seven four nine seven three two. One eight
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hundred 're seven four nine to seven, three to two.
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get your thoughts, your reactions, and see what you think
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Speaker 1 (29:14):
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